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Bombastic StarLeague 4SWISS GROUPBombastic StarLeague 4/Swiss tournament<- Detailed explanation Round 1: 17.03.2018 18:00 CET @EU #op BSL Round 2: 24.03.2018 18:00 CET Round 3: 31.03.2018 18:00 CET Round 4: 07.04.2018 18:00 CET Round 5: 14.04.2018 18:00 CET Round 6: 21.04.2018 18:00 CET Round 7: 28.04.2018 18:00 CET Stream: https://www.twitch.tv/zzzeroplMaps:SparkleCircuit BreakerBlue Storm Tau CrossLonginusJadeBan system. Player higher ranking in BSL ladder starts to ban. Loser of the match can choose from all maps left. ==Round 3==Best of three ! Chobo Tour matches: https://challonge.com/irqc3cew <- MATCHES FOR cHoBo LEAGUE. I'll Try to Cast cHoBo League most interesting matches too ! At later stage I'll make additional day for cHoBo league. BSL4 prizepool: 1000 $ SIMPLE RULES:1. I understand that sometimes you can not be there on final date. In that circumstances contact me on discord and we will figure something out. If I'll allow you to play your match earlier you can not stream your match, you can not upload replay anywhere, and you can not show by your behavior what was the score. 2. I would apreciate If you would not stream your matches from ProLeague - with higher audience on main channel we might find some sponsor for Broodwar in the FuturE. 3. Please be good manner, it should be fun. 4. Everyone should contact with eachother on discord ! 5. ZZZero is always right. Do you like it ? https://discord.gg/X7S87gR <- MAIN DISCORD CHANNEL https://twitter.com/ZZZeroPL https://www.facebook.com/BombasticStarLeaguee:mail: dideko.o@gmail.com Graphics: Foxhan Liquidpedia updates: Hatchet5
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oh plz no sparkle,atleast go with the other ''normal'' map Transistor
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Avi-Love/Carebear, non and XzOz fighting! :-D
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"BSL4 prizepool: 1000 $" Pretty sick ! Good job ZZZero !
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first round banning is done until 1 map is left?
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until 3 maps are left i assume. Fuck yeah this is great
also aegyo is living in Canada aka cute[pain]
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United States9649 Posts
JAEYUN AND TY2 OUR USA HEROS! GOGOGOGOGOGO! FIGHTING!
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The banning process in the previous BSL tours was that you ban until 1 map is left and then the loser can choose from the complete map pool (no double maps).
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Is there a possibility to play eriler?
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I have never heard of the chilean player cruzago before. A new protoss talent? I wish him luck.
This is such a great tournament!
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eOn - this map will make this tour more interesting !
Bakuryu, yes - baning map until 1 map, then lose can choose from all maps remaining.
Mazur Simple Rules: nr 1.
" SIMPLE RULES: 1. I understand that sometimes you can not be there on final date. In that circumstances contact me on discord and we will figure something out. If I'll allow you to play your match earlier you can not stream your match, you can not upload replay anywhere, and you can not show by your behavior what was the score. "
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Russian Federation249 Posts
So will Round 3 be on StarCraft's birthday? Will there be any special show? ;-)
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I thought Goody was protoss?
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Russian Federation249 Posts
You're right, I fixed that. Thanks.
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So anyone can just pick sparkle even if I vetod it the first time....a map ive literally never played lol. Much as I love this league I dont think this is a good decision
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That's why BSL4 has a decent prizepool, you have to practice special map for good results
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a map that is from what i hear, wildly imbalanced. Would be nice to have a DL link to whatever version of it we are supposed to play at least
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Norway28256 Posts
should practice some sparkle then, still have a week. And you are protoss main, if it's imbalanced it is in your favor. I'm a huge fan of including it - games there are super interesting. ASL today had 5 games, two really cool ones on sparkle and 3 total garbage ones on other maps.
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who is playing under the nick Beast? I would like to play him before Sat. Beast could you msg me @tl net or discord ?
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beast is Beast[NaS] ill let him know
And in regards to sparkle, even if its imbalanced in favor of protoss, id rather win with skill than abusing a shitty map. Im pretty sure the reason the other ASL games sucked is because pros are devoting 90% of their practice time to only sparkle since it requires a totally new meta..something id rather not have happen in BSL.
But, if sparkle is to be played, please add the download link in the OP at least
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On March 12 2018 01:32 Dewaltoss wrote:That's why BSL4 has a decent prizepool, you have to practice special map for good results are you the mind behind this sparkle in the map pool ? afterall blue storm is also your idea..
i defended BSl no matter what but sparkle is terrible news for most of the players,plz consider transistor instead.
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Ban system is
player1: ban player2: ban player1: pick first map player2: pick second map if need play the map left
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player1:ban player2:ban player1:ban player2:ban
play the map left and losser pick
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From what I know its the 2nd option so: player1:ban player2:ban player1:ban player2:ban
play the map left and losser pick (from the whole map pool)
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Someone knows BSL-Santi ????? :/
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On March 12 2018 06:35 FyRe_DragOn wrote: beast is Beast[NaS] ill let him know
And in regards to sparkle, even if its imbalanced in favor of protoss, id rather win with skill than abusing a shitty map. Im pretty sure the reason the other ASL games sucked is because pros are devoting 90% of their practice time to only sparkle since it requires a totally new meta..something id rather not have happen in BSL.
But, if sparkle is to be played, please add the download link in the OP at least
Thank you!
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i changed my mind about transistor,map is even worse zvp than sparkle..
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I would like to preplay my match vs Casper, please contact me through TL or discord. I can play Tuesday/Wednesday/Friday between 19:00 CET and 24:00 CET or on sunday at any time.
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You just had to add sparkle...I would be more ok with bloodbath
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cRuZaGo and Tech HWAITING!
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is this bw or sc remastered
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Russian Federation249 Posts
Since this tournament has ladder stage, it had to be played on Remastered.
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On March 12 2018 06:35 FyRe_DragOn wrote: beast is Beast[NaS] ill let him know
And in regards to sparkle, even if its imbalanced in favor of protoss, id rather win with skill than abusing a shitty map. Im pretty sure the reason the other ASL games sucked is because pros are devoting 90% of their practice time to only sparkle since it requires a totally new meta..something id rather not have happen in BSL.
But, if sparkle is to be played, please add the download link in the OP at least
Hi Dragon, Were you able to reach to Beast?
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yes but i dont know if hes done anything about it
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i would like to bring up the issue that is Daylight Saving Times. north america already changed into their daylight savings. CET will change on 25th march. my guess is the times will be like this:
Round 1: 17.03.2018 18:00 CET Round 2: 24.03.2018 18:00 CET
Round 3: 31.03.2018 18:00 CEST Round 4: 07.04.2018 18:00 CEST Round 5: 14.04.2018 18:00 CEST Round 6: 21.04.2018 18:00 CEST Round 7: 28.04.2018 18:00 CEST
1st round is starting in 8 hours 51 minutes from this post.
unless zzzero decides something else
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Croatia9360 Posts
This is shaping up to be one awesome league. Awesome job ZZZero!
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Sorry I woke up too late even though I set an alarm. Quantel takes w.o. I will be there next week
edit: started with a 0-1 disadvantage nm, ggs
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Bombastic StarLeague 4/Swiss tournament
BSL ProLeague Round 1 Results, and Round 2 Pairs. [Thanks to mr Hatchet5]
RULES: If you want to play your match earlier you can not stream your match, you can not upload replay anywhere, and you can not show by your behavior what was the score. SEND ME SCORES ON DISCORD.
WE HAVE SOME FREE SPOTS IN CHOBO LEAGUE -> PLEASE CONTACT ME IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO REPLACE SOMEONE.
After work today, I'll try to make some news about it. Is there anyone who would like to help with chobo league ? Let me know what you would like to do.
https://discord.gg/X7S87gR <- Main communication channel. !
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if i play my games saturday 21:00 can i stream my games ?
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Oh yea, about streaming - if you play your games on saturday there is no problem for me with that I meant to not stream during week - if you are playing games earlier - to not show the score.
https://challonge.com/irqc3cew <- THIS ARE THE SCORES FROM CHOBO LEAGUE.
If you are here, let me know if you want to play ! WE ARE REPLACING INACTIVES.
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1. Ok, we need to clear this chobo league out, becouse there was to many v/o games. Lets try to get 64 people. If there will be more - BSL ladder decides. All CHOBO LEACHUE PLAYERS SHOULD JOIN: https://challonge.com/tournaments/signup/DD0cjFD4Cr 2. All people who had diffrent nickname in BSL- ladder than real nickname - contact me 3. GIVE THIS MESSAGE TO YOUR FRIENDS !
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Eonzerg vs Koget and TerrOr vs Dewalt sound awesome. Can't wait to see those games
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what channel chobo league? is there any prize at chobo league? :D
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Really cool to have 3 norwegians in this! Go Kare, Eriador and Whistler!
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Russian Federation249 Posts
Channel for both leagues in game is OP BSL Discord https://discord.gg/vh8CrTp
Prize for ChoboLeague is 20% of the prize pool and is $200 at the moment
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please remove sparkle from the map pool and add a map that is actually balanced
or at the very least change the ban system to an actual veto where loser cant just pick the 1st map I ban
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Sparkle isnt unbalanced, check ASL stats...
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On March 25 2018 05:30 ppp87 wrote: Sparkle isnt unbalanced, check ASL stats...
because having one game from each matchup is a reliable sample size lol. Even if you did rely on that sample size, you would have to conclude that it IS imbalanced, each matchup has a 100% win or loss rate with only 1 game played...
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I put more trust on ASL mapmakers than FyRe_DragOn from teamliquid's forum.
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yeah youre right, theres never been an imbalanced map played in ASL before LOL. Anyway just fix the VETO system and it will be fine. People who want to play on sparkle can do so if its mutual
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This is how happy we are while casting BSL !
Dragon, you are right with banning system.
I changed it in a bit. == ROUND 3 ==
ANY PREDICTIONS ?
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I strongly disagree with changing the banning system and/or banning sparkle. Adapting to a new/unique map is a very important skillset in brood war, and one that has been missing from the foreign scene for a very long time. ASL players are forced to play both sparkle and transistor, with no vetos, no dodging and little to no complaining. Listening to one person because he's salty he lost on a map he never practiced on (that's on him, not anyone else) is very counterproductive. Also, the map really isn't that imbalanced, most top players have a larger than 50% win rate in all matchups, meaning any imbalance can be overcome by player skill.
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you killed me with that supply joke lol.
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about the ban system i will prefer to just change sparkle for transistor mb,fresh map.
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Norway28256 Posts
I'm 100% with avi-love. It's not even about sparkle in general (although I love the map), just that I think 'is able to play well on many different types of maps' should be a valued skill-set. Being able to completely veto either one or two (depending on rank) out of a 6 map pool detracts from that.
I also think sparkle has been incredibly refreshing.
As far as balance is concerned, the fact is out of the map pool (sparkle cb blue storm longi tau jade) there are strong imbalances present for most of those matchups. Looking at starlogg % by race for players at 2100+ or 2400+ (proleague cutoff being between those two), zerg is totally fucked on longinus, p is totally fucked pvz tau, (and jade), t struggles tvp jade. But it's always possible to get a balanced map in round 1, and then you both get one pick after..
Basically my point is I really like the system how it is now and I don't understand the need for change.
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Honestly i think ban system overall is not good trend. Korean style map order is alot better in my opinion. I prefer practice few interesting tactics on interesting maps more then just mass gaming FS/CB over and over again. I don't think it's a good time for change anything for this stage of the tournament, but for playoff maybe? It will be more interesting to have 4 different maps over 6 maps (few of them you will never play anyway, but maybe you want to use some special tactic on Tau Cross, but your opponent will ban it, so all your effort for map preparetion will gone)
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Anyway it's more interesting for me to be with korean pro-players on the same wave. Copy their playstyle on new maps (or maybe even bring something new if you talanted enough!). I feel like dinosaur when i have to play Tau or Longinus tbh :D. This maps is more inbalanced then Sparkle or Transistor for me.
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Norway28256 Posts
On March 26 2018 00:48 Dewaltoss wrote: Honestly i think ban system overall is not good trend. Korean style map order is alot better in my opinion. I prefer practice few interesting tactics on interesting maps more then just mass gaming FS/CB over and over again. I don't think it's a good time for change anything for this stage of the tournament, but for playoff maybe? It will be more interesting to have 4 different maps over 6 maps (few of them you will never play anyway, but maybe you want to use some special tactic on Tau Cross, but your opponent will ban it, so all your effort for map preparetion will gone)
I really agree with this too. With the veto system for first two weeks though, you would always get to play your special strategy (unless you win 2-0), but now you might practice one build on one map and then have that map be banned on the day of the tournament, which is really unfortunate.
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Are we doing some event for sc20 ? like u know racewars!
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I undestand your objections guys, most of them are on point and actually after getting so many comments and PM s I dont know which way of choosing maps I should choose. Please undestand me that I also would like to test some systems, and in February with BSL I was changing map every week, also now I would like to have some flexibility to make changes.
Now I know that I should make changes like this during thing phases of the Tour. And now we are in the point when everybody hates me for that choice :D
Soon I'll publish one official way of banning map for group stages and bracket.
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no worries ZZZero, we still <3 u! its impossible to please evryone.
how would those racewars look like eon?
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proly 4 players x race like the koreans do
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Russian Federation249 Posts
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Really impressed by avi atm. Great player. Even better lover.
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TLADT24917 Posts
Fantastic game all around. Sparkle tvz should be fun to see! :D
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Can u imagine it's Round 4 already ?
From now on we will have even more excitement, because next week we will meet two players who will advance to Group Stage:
Match for advance: 1. eOnzErG 0:0 Dewalt 2. LancerX 0:0 Avi-Love
https://www.strawpoll.me/15408182
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Russian Federation249 Posts
Poll: eOnzErG vs DewaltDewalt (17) 57% eOnzErG (13) 43% 30 total votes Your vote: eOnzErG vs Dewalt (Vote): eOnzErG (Vote): Dewalt
Poll: LancerX vs Avi-LoveLancerX (13) 52% Avi-Love (12) 48% 25 total votes Your vote: LancerX vs Avi-Love (Vote): LancerX (Vote): Avi-Love
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Looking forward to watching the stream!
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United Kingdom12010 Posts
If you're not watching already, tune in! A cool TvP between Wolfix and CruZaGo at the minute!
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Ikirouta: Hello am 48 year man from somalia. Sorry for my bed england. I selled my wife for internet connection for watch "Eonzerg vs Dewalt" I would like to see this match, pls no copy pasterino my story
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Gecko, your graphics skills are amazing ! :D
We have two players who advance to Round of 16 - Group Stage: 1. Dewalt with 8:0 score 2. Avi-Love with 8:2 score
ReplayPack from Round 3 & Round 4: https://ufile.io/xhuhm
Video from yesterdays stream : https://www.twitch.tv/videos/247691286
Any feedback boys ?
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more democracy in the strawpolls maybe?
€sorry. i'm gecko, just used the wrong acc.
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Haha Gecko, I think there was democracy in the voting :D North Korean One ^_^
Guys, me old now, I finished 27 and I'm officiall SC:BW Grandpa
Round 5:
At Saturday we will invite 4 more players who will advance to the group stage, winners of matches:
1. Cryoc vs truTacz 0:0 2. LancerX vs Ty2 0:0 3. Dandy vs eOnZerg 0:0 4. cRuZaGo vs Kare 0:0
VOTE HERE:
+ Show Spoiler +Poll: Who will win ?Trutacz (19) 76% Cryoc (6) 24% 25 total votes Your vote: Who will win ? (Vote): Cryoc (Vote): Trutacz
Poll: Who will win ?Ty2 (15) 63% LancerX (9) 38% 24 total votes Your vote: Who will win ? (Vote): LancerX (Vote): Ty2
Poll: Who will win ?eOnzErg (14) 56% Dandy (11) 44% 25 total votes Your vote: Who will win ? (Vote): Dandy (Vote): eOnzErg
Poll: Who will win ?Kare (14) 64% cRuZaGo (8) 36% 22 total votes Your vote: Who will win ? (Vote): cRuZaGo (Vote): Kare
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Knowing that BSL is on today brings a smile to my face. God knows i need it.
Thank you all!
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Gonna get a snack before the BSL
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Loving the Zzzero/Eonzerg casting!
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Any prediction boys and grills?
We start on saturday 18:00 CET!
Poll:
Matches for advance: + Show Spoiler +Poll: Who will win ?Non (13) 72% Wolfix (5) 28% 18 total votes Your vote: Who will win ? (Vote): Non (Vote): Wolfix
Poll: Who will win ?Koget (14) 74% Jaeyun (5) 26% 19 total votes Your vote: Who will win ? (Vote): Koget (Vote): Jaeyun
Poll: Who will win ?Naugrim (17) 89% Cruzago (2) 11% 19 total votes Your vote: Who will win ? (Vote): Cruzago (Vote): Naugrim
Poll: Who will win ?Trutacz (13) 65% Ultra (7) 35% 20 total votes Your vote: Who will win ? (Vote): Trutacz (Vote): Ultra
Poll: Who will win ?Dandy (13) 72% Ty2 (5) 28% 18 total votes Your vote: Who will win ? (Vote): Ty2 (Vote): Dandy
Matches for survival: + Show Spoiler +Poll: Who will win ?Yeti (8) 67% Quantel (4) 33% 12 total votes Your vote: Who will win ? (Vote): Quantel (Vote): Yeti
Poll: Who will win ?Whistler (7) 50% Babo (7) 50% 14 total votes Your vote: Who will win ? (Vote): Whistler (Vote): Babo
Poll: Who will win ?Dragon (13) 76% Aegyo (4) 24% 17 total votes Your vote: Who will win ? (Vote): Aegyo (Vote): Dragon
Poll: Who will win ?Terror (12) 92% Casper (1) 8% 13 total votes Your vote: Who will win ? (Vote): Casper (Vote): Terror
Poll: Who will win ?g0rynich (13) 87% Tech (2) 13% 15 total votes Your vote: Who will win ? (Vote): g0rynich (Vote): Tech
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I`d like to inform my future opponents that until further notice, I won`t be able particiapte, so they should take the walkover. - non
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non
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Russian Federation249 Posts
Well thanks for not disappearing without a word. I really appreciate it.
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Too bad man ;/
I'm not proud to go to the next round with wo
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Hello!
Welcome to BSL Chobo - Open Casters.
Rules: Every week will be streamed by other streamer. We will try to make it EVERY THURSDAY 19:00 CEST.
Round 1: Will be casted by:
Vincent https://www.twitch.tv/vincent4tv
You know him from streaming BWCL, being able to whistle eye of the tiger and SC:BW tatoo on the chest.!
Date: Thursday 19:00 CEST Stream https://www.twitch.tv/vincent4tv <------------------------
Round 1 BSL-Chobo Round 1 games: Battousai 0:0 Hirmu Cadenzie 0:0 Jojo Dentrag 0:0 Gambito Favorit 0:0 Ikirouta Gypsy 0:0 Faust Seriosity 0:0 Redeyes Verde 0:0 Darkmatter Vingzil 0:0 KuH White 0:0 Tempest
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We start today 18.00 CEST with Round7 of PRO-League. !
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On April 28 2018 17:32 ZZZero.O wrote: We start today 18.00 CEST with Round7 of PRO-League. ! ❤️
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Round 2 of CCHOBO-League will be casted by:
You know him from streaming BSL 2 games !
Date: Thursday 19:00 CEST 03.05.2018 Stream https://www.twitch.tv/l_master <------------------------
Round 2 BSL-Chobo available games: Battousai 0:0 Basil Cadenzie 0:0 CancerX hirmu0:0 Ikirouta Gypsy 0:0 Seriosity Vingzil0:0 Fishei oya0:0 KuH White 0:0 Qikz jOjO 0:0 Tempest
On Saturday/Sunday Karolina will draw PRO-League groups - I think we will be ready to put all the things together on that time.
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On May 03 2018 18:06 ZZZero.O wrote:Round 2 of CCHOBO-League will be casted by: You know him from streaming BSL 2 games ! Date: Thursday 19:00 CEST 03.05.2018 Streamhttps://www.twitch.tv/l_master <------------------------
Round 2 BSL-Chobo available games: Battousai 0:0 Basil Cadenzie 0:0 CancerX hirmu0:0 Ikirouta Gypsy 0:0 Seriosity Vingzil0:0 Fishei oya0:0 KuH White 0:0 Qikz jOjO 0:0 Tempest
On Saturday/Sunday Karolina will draw PRO-League groups - I think we will be ready to put all the things together on that time.
Great job ZZZero, look forward for all the games!
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