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United States7488 Posts
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Bisu > UpMagic Iris < HwaSIn NaDa > Jaedong Rock < sAviOr
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Bisu > UpMagiC Iris > Hwasin NaDa < Jaedong Rock < sAviOr
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Bisu, Iris, NaDa and Godzerg crush. And Rock make fire.
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How exactly do I watch this in Daum Player? It gives me an error message when I click any OSL buttons? Is that because it hasn't started yet?
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United States7488 Posts
On October 26 2007 18:01 Presony-Boy wrote: NaDa > Jaedong
Are you insane?!? No way is that going to happen!
My predictions by the way:
Bisu > UpMagic UpMagic is a little unorthodox in his TvP, but I still think Bisu's skill level surpasses just about anyone at the moment.
Iris > Hwasin I'll just say that Iris is TvT. Until he shows some sign of weakness I give him the edge against any other terran... and Hwasin didn't even beat Light. Additionally Iris is hungry he keeps getting closer and closer to winning the league and this season might just be the season he goes all the way.
Nada < Jaedong As much as Iris is TvT, Jaedong is ZvT. He looks unstoppable in this match-up recently and I have no reason to believe that a currently less than stellar Nada will be able to put the blemish in his win streak.
Rock < Savior Savior's been handling every protoss who isn't known as Bisu. That trend should continue tonight, especially since Rock's play has not been so inspiring to begin with.
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Yeah, could anyone give me tips on how to watch? I'm pretty new at this, sorry for the dumb question.
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United States7488 Posts
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Already read that thread. Must be outdated because my player doesn't have a list of buttons on the left panel.
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United States7488 Posts
Make sure that you have the most recent version, you might have to update.
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I have the most recent version, I downloaded it like 2 hours ago. I see a list of buttons, but not that particular button in the guide to click. There is no "game" button. I've fooled around on the program and I've found a few Starleague banners, and when I click on one, a dialog box pops up with an error, and that's it.
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Valhalla18444 Posts
On October 26 2007 18:23 traced wrote: what time is this?
theres a calendar at the top right of the site
under that it says 'upcoming events' and lists the time in korean standard time
if you dont feel like converting, click the upcoming event link, and a 'time left' thing shows you how long until the event is on
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OK, turns out I was right and the error was just because it hadn't started yet.
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I hope Upmagic will take it.
I like both players, but I just like Up's plays more.
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Is there a way to reduce the quality of daumplayer? Lol that commercials play so much smoother than the show itself.
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how do i change the quality of the DAUM stream? it buffers way to much atm..
help plz!
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no there's no way to reduce quality. just look for a lower quality stream. they used to have a ton during daum OSL, but i don't blame them (they don't sponsor this one)
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u gotta skate8152 Posts
On October 26 2007 18:29 .dragoon wrote: I hope Upmagic will take it.
I like both players, but I just like Up's plays more.
Same!
Come on Bisu, please lose, just this game. :p
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Live reports are appriciated because DAUM doesn't work for me @ work.
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Yes.. low quality stream and because of that it works ;D
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My Daum player won't update. It tries but then get's an error, and I believe it won't let me tune in unless I'm updated. (I can't read Korean, but I'm quite certain that's what it was saying.)
Any alternative streams would be appreciated. (Sc2.org doesn't seem to be up?)
Edit: N/m! I found the YaoYuan link. :D
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Shit no daum stream is full -_- Only way up will beat bisu is if he does some sort of all in scv marine rush. Jaedong > nada not gonna explain Hwasin>iris iris is known for his tvt but hwasin is looking great dont know can go either way heart says hwasin brain says iris go for heart cause i dont liquibet Savior >>> rock ^^
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On October 26 2007 18:32 G.s)NarutO wrote: Live reports are appriciated because DAUM doesn't work for me @ work.
Same here. Reports are very welcome for today's awesome games.
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does anyone know how i can watch this by stream on yaoyuan or anything?
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BTW I JUST GOT MY DRIVERS LICENCE TODAY BUAH ;D!!
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I'll report if no one else wants to
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China3334 Posts
i thought bisu would be better with a shorter haircut. it turned out I'm wrong =[
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On October 26 2007 18:37 THE_LAST_ENEMY wrote: does anyone know how i can watch this by stream on yaoyuan or anything?
YaoYuan: U have to use Internet Explorer or Firefox + IE Tab choose OGN channel
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On October 26 2007 18:38 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:I'll report if no one else wants to
oh got, you are just the real deal, i love you °° your reports are like watching it.
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Okkkk here we go people. Bisu is at 12, Upmagic at 9.
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LOL Upmagic does a 2rax proxy, while bisu does a 1gate proxy.
Bisu gets scouted, and upsends some scvs to destroy the gate and it works.
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lol bisu what are u doing ??!!
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Netherlands19120 Posts
Game started,
Bisu 12 <Katrina> Up 9
Up Proxy rax in the centre, Bisu starts a pylon + gate right at Ups ramp!
(ok this is going to be a lag game)
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I did exactly what yubee did in the shots but there is a small box that pops out in korean and nothing loads
the box is like some sort of error
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can someone give me the tvants link please? icant get the stream to work
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Bisu sending out an early probe. 99% likely he'll proxy gate as he is actually sending out 2 early probes. He, of course quickly scouts the terran and pylons RIGHT NEXT to the terrans base. On the high ground with the main. OH Terran is Proxy Raxing after his depot close to bisus base! Another scv scout sees the gate being warped in. Upmagic pulls 4 scvs and attacks the gate. 1 scv chasing the scouting probe. Bisu cancels the gate just before it warps in. Upmagic making a second rax!
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ahahahahahah omg this game is awesome
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Bisu scouts extremely early and pylons outside Up's base
Up predictably proxies rax in center, spots Bisu's proxy gate while sending 2nd scv
Up pulls SCVs and kills gateway
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Netherlands19120 Posts
4 SCVs dealing with the Gateway and it get's cancelled right before it finishes, 2nd rax for UP in the centre.
Bisu warping in a Gateway in his main as the first rines are out for Up but not attacking yet.
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Bisu will know what is up as soon as he sees there is no cc at the rear expo. Hes rebuilt his gate in his main. OH maybe he doesnt know!. He starts a nexus! Bisu could be in trouble here. Deep trouble.
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Bisu takes way too much risk.
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Awesome probe micro vs marines/scv wow
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Forge going down by a bunker is already started and 3 marines are there!! PROBEESSSS!!! 110 probes pulled and they barely kill all the marines with the help of a zealot before they can get in the completely bunker! Amazing by Bisu! 3 rines still pressuring against 2 zealots. Ok Bisu safe. The bunker is down and a cannon is up.
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Netherlands19120 Posts
1 gate Expo Nex for bisu!
Gate JUST finishes as some scvs and marines head for Bisu! Attempt at bunker for Up ane he finishes his bunker but Bisu 's first zeal JUST POPS OUT TO KILL THE LAST RINE and prevent one from getting in.
More rines comming though! Bisu took some probe dmg but his first cannon finishes now.
His exp will be safe but about 10 rines comming.
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holy fucking shit, zealot pops JUST in time to kill the 1 marine rushing for the bunker...wow...
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Netherlands19120 Posts
Gas / Core + expo for Bisu, Up's beyond dead with a just started expo and no gas yet T_T.
Floated raxes back + bunker at ramp for Up.
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I cant believe Bisu managed to keep all of ups rines out of the bunk. CC down for up. Both of the proxy rax are floating back towards up base and Up walls his front with 3 supply depots lol. Oh no, it was only to keep bisus scouting probe out. Bisu tried to pylon hop the wall btw, but it failed Upmagic bunkers on the high ground right above the ramp near his main.
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Up attacks with marines, repelled by probes + zealot
Up tries to bunker, but stopped. Bisu finishes cannon
Up retreats rest of rines and floats rax back to base while expanding
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FUCK I WANT TO WATCH IT! keep the info coming guys thanks <3
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On October 26 2007 18:43 THE_LAST_ENEMY wrote:can someone give me the tvants link please? icant get the stream to work
http://www.yaoyuan.com/live o_O
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I was like WTF BISU why are you nexusing. Surely you must know he has proxied rax. He suprised me for sure
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Netherlands19120 Posts
Engi bay for Up and his natural expo just finishes. Bisu adding some gates along with templar archives.
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Upmagic going 2 exps m&m with ebay upgrades already started
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lol upmagic GOING 4 RAX !!!!
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2 bunks on the high ground with rines in deny bisus early harass attept with goon. Dt tech is down for Bisu but Upmagic has a turret and an acad already. Upmagic is starting a 3rd rax. A 4th! This heavy commitment to mnm could prove to be fatal vs bisus 2 gases and fast tech tech.
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Netherlands19120 Posts
4 barracks for up vs Templar tech, should be epic fail -.-
Bisu taking top left expo as the first DTs are out and roaming.
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Bisu is completely unaware of secret terran expo.
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2 dts out for bisu heading for the T choke. It looks solid though as the turret is partially walled in. Dts comming! Good building placement. They turn around and dont even try to do anything.
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Up bunkers up and is up to 4 rax
Bisu techs dt's but Up has turret way before, Bisu finally takes nat
Up moves out with m&m
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This is certainly an exciting game right from the start.
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upmagic now going out with about 2 controls of marine and 1 of medics, bisu adding cannons to his entrance and harrasing with dts
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m&m are repeatedly stalled by dt's
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upmagic doesn't hve enough scans to go on with his push
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Upmagic unloads his bunkers and move out with 2 scanners and around 24 mnm. A DT lives through TWO SCANS! Thats trouble for upmagic. Scans are valueable. He finally gets the dt with a third scan but another 2 dts chasing the mnm group. 5 marines die as well as a medic. Up seems to be struggling. He kills a dt with one scan though and starts a turret near bisus base a little out of the way. He lures a DT there, but Bisu is skilled and notices. He saves the DT.
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up researched armour +1 for his marines so they don't die to one hit from DT's
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Bisu with 1zeal, 1goon, 3dt
Up with 3 groups of m&m and +1 armor
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Bisu has made 4 cannons at his choke. He has robo/obs and a robotics support bay done! Perhaps he will use speed shuttle temp drops ?
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upmaginc ferrying units to bisu's expo, seems to take the lead in the fight
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That was a pretty fun game.
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huge hit on bisu's econ now
the games are bo3 right?
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Mnm Drop at the rear P nat!!! 2 goons but they must run. A goon is brought down! ANd a Dt. Another dropship full of mnm on its way! Bisu losing some probes but reaver comes and clears the threat with the help of goons. Intense. Another mnm drop at the P main this time! THey get some more drones before a might scarab blows up 3 marines and the rest run. The shuttle is in red life.
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Up drops m&m at back nat of Bisu and Bisu fends it off with reavers after losing some probes
Up drops again at the main and nets a few probe kills
Up transitioning to metal
Bisu has lone probe count
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Up magic took back the game with those drops. It could go either way now.
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bisu eventually manages to clear the invaders, but another drop to bisu main kills some other probes,upmagic has 3 commands and switches to mass factories now
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Up expands again, and Bisu attacks with goons + 2 reavers, which die miserably
Bisu GGs
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Some mines and well placed turret/tanks take down a Bisu Goon/shuttle with 2 reaver army! Bisu commited all the way on that attack and it got crushed. Bisu simply GGS. Upmagic bows to the crowd.
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bisu desperatly tries to break upmagic 3rd expansion but fails and ggs
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GG
Bisu got raped after failed cheese.
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greate...0/1 already.....bisu
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Netherlands19120 Posts
Bisu trying to distract bunkerfire with a zeal to get the DTs past but the block is waterproof and no fatty toss getting through.
Up moving out with a bunch of MnM but gets owned by the "1 hit from dt on marine kill and running off and making him waste scan while I got enough DTs to waste".
Bisu loses 2 DTs but his 3rd DT is now killing off quite some rines before UP has scan again.
Reinforcements comming for Up as he finishes some random turrets along the way.
Factories going up along with a starport with addon and a armory.
Shuttle out for Bisu along with reaver tech, templar tech and the top left 11 expo. 4 cannons vs rine med out as well.
Marine medic drop at top left expo which epicly fails due to the presence of a DT but then reinforcements arrive and return to do some damage!
First reaver out for Bisu saves the day but he took some probe and unit dmg there.
Another drop to his main is taking out quite another amount of probes.
Vults tanks out for Up and random mines causing some damage on DTs and Goons.
Up taking the centre nat between Bisu and his main and Bisu goes allin but sees his stuff melt before tank fire.
CRAZY GAME wtf happened there :S Bisu was so far ahead.
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upmagic win gg good game
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Taiche
France1963 Posts
Bah
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Bisu GGs. Upmagic not being a pushover for Bisu.
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That's HOW you DO IT!!
Yea!
The counter puncher knocks out xtreme.
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Those Mnm drops by up were so smart. After both players failed cheese Bisu was actually significantly ahead.
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u gotta skate8152 Posts
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Bisu isnt nal ra, he fails @ cheez :D
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heh.. upmagic with the pwnage
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Upmagic was in advantage since the beginning, bisu's gate was discovered and coun't hurt, and he was forced to use probes repeatedly and make cannons not to get killed by upmagic marines, upmagic thus had a big economic advantage which he used to expand way sooner than bisu and mass m&ms the drops then slowed down bisu even more.
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Netherlands19120 Posts
I just noticed today's OSL has games from every MU except PvP and ZvZ and between great players as well, awsome treat for the end of the week to start the weekend ;o.
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On October 26 2007 18:53 Fishball wrote: huge hit on bisu's econ now
the games are bo3 right? still group stages
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On October 26 2007 18:57 UbRi wrote: Upmagic was in advantage since the beginning, bisu's gate was discovered and coun't hurt, and he was forced to use probes repeatedly and make cannons not to get killed by upmagic marines, upmagic thus had a big economic advantage which he used to expand way sooner than bisu and mass m&ms the drops then slowed down bisu even more. Incorrect. Bisu actually placed his Nexus before Up placed his CC I believe. Bisus failed cheese hardly cost him. He made one pylon and then a gateway. The gateway forced Up to pull 4 scvs and was then canceled. So Bisu basically came out even there.
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On October 26 2007 19:00 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:Show nested quote +On October 26 2007 18:57 UbRi wrote: Upmagic was in advantage since the beginning, bisu's gate was discovered and coun't hurt, and he was forced to use probes repeatedly and make cannons not to get killed by upmagic marines, upmagic thus had a big economic advantage which he used to expand way sooner than bisu and mass m&ms the drops then slowed down bisu even more. Incorrect. Bisu actually placed his Nexus before Up placed his CC I believe. Bisus failed cheese hardly cost him. He made one pylon and then a gateway. The gateway forced Up to pull 4 scvs and was then canceled. So Bisu basically came out even there. he cancelled his nexus and went dts and that put him way behind
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When was Bisu ahead?
Protoss was forced to cancel nexus, and UpMagic had expo way longer than Bisu. DT`s kept Bisu in the game so long. + Bisu was also very low on probes.
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Bisu started sooner, but canceled it @ one point, and then made again already way behind Up's expo
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Netherlands19120 Posts
On October 26 2007 18:57 UbRi wrote: Upmagic was in advantage since the beginning, bisu's gate was discovered and coun't hurt, and he was forced to use probes repeatedly and make cannons not to get killed by upmagic marines, upmagic thus had a big economic advantage which he used to expand way sooner than bisu and mass m&ms the drops then slowed down bisu even more.
Bisu exped earlier then Up, about a full min ahead and he had his gas up way way way ahead.
I was expecting something better then one control group of high tech units instead of going the macro game.
Going the harass strat when he was ahead in tech and initial gas harvesting, and not in the least behind in minerals was just a mistake imho. He should just have went Obs Goon and take another few expos while adding speed zeal.
That in any case after the failed DT attempt instead of adding reavers.
Nice action packed game with a twist though, great watch.
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Yep looking at the replay now. Bisu's nexus was down right after his gate. WAYYYY BEFORE Upmagics CC was placed
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On October 26 2007 19:01 yubee wrote:Show nested quote +On October 26 2007 19:00 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:On October 26 2007 18:57 UbRi wrote: Upmagic was in advantage since the beginning, bisu's gate was discovered and coun't hurt, and he was forced to use probes repeatedly and make cannons not to get killed by upmagic marines, upmagic thus had a big economic advantage which he used to expand way sooner than bisu and mass m&ms the drops then slowed down bisu even more. Incorrect. Bisu actually placed his Nexus before Up placed his CC I believe. Bisus failed cheese hardly cost him. He made one pylon and then a gateway. The gateway forced Up to pull 4 scvs and was then canceled. So Bisu basically came out even there. he cancelled his nexus and went dts and that put him way behind He still had his expo remade long before up had his cc down. Bisu also did not lose that many probes to initial 2 proxy rax rush. The drops however took out a large number of probes. Sorta forced Bisu all in.
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Umm.. Almost hesitant to say this.. but..
Gogo Hwasin!<3
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Netherlands19120 Posts
Ah I missed that he cancelled it for Forge + probes, that's where it went wrong then. That along with the probe deaths makes up for good to horrific damage to his economy and is where the game turned with the two drops on main and expo finishing the job on his eco.
I was already confused when I went "bisu taking 11 expo", cause I was like Huh isnt that supposed to be his natural which he took like 3 min ago?
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yeah bisu was warping a nexus before he knew that upmagic was cheesing but he was forced to cancel it to make cannons so... he didn't actualy expand sooner than upmagic...
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This game didnt mean that much to Bisu, almost could say even better to lose and let GGplay to not have chance to advance. Though he puts him at risk of elimination if GGplay loses last match (3-way-tie). So win-win(lose) situation.
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he cancelled because he took probes off and didnt have enough minerals to make cannon+zeals.. upmagic got the far better of that opening, bisu was hugely behind the minute marines got to his main.
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Netherlands19120 Posts
Wow crowd going wild for Hwasin, and myself going wild for todays boothgirls ROAR!
(Btw that first zeal to assasinate that rine 0.1 sec before it went into the bunker was crazy btw lol)
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Hwasin making a sophisticated emo entrance.
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On October 26 2007 19:04 Valid_DS wrote: This game didnt mean that much to Bisu, almost could say even better to lose and let GGplay to not have chance to advance. Though he puts him at risk of elimination if GGplay loses last match (3-way-tie). So win-win(lose) situation.
hahahaha k mate :D
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I think that he lost about 3-4 probes, and couldn't mine for like 1 minutes with all the others, this isn't no damage for early eco, I think that Upmagic was already in advantage at that point, and I'm not sure that the 2nd nexus was warped before upmagic CC,
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I bet they\'re whispering eachother right now ^_~
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Hm, I would have thought Bisu might expect Upmagic to try something and play safer. Ah well.
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On October 26 2007 19:03 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:Show nested quote +On October 26 2007 19:01 yubee wrote:On October 26 2007 19:00 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:On October 26 2007 18:57 UbRi wrote: Upmagic was in advantage since the beginning, bisu's gate was discovered and coun't hurt, and he was forced to use probes repeatedly and make cannons not to get killed by upmagic marines, upmagic thus had a big economic advantage which he used to expand way sooner than bisu and mass m&ms the drops then slowed down bisu even more. Incorrect. Bisu actually placed his Nexus before Up placed his CC I believe. Bisus failed cheese hardly cost him. He made one pylon and then a gateway. The gateway forced Up to pull 4 scvs and was then canceled. So Bisu basically came out even there. he cancelled his nexus and went dts and that put him way behind He still had his expo remade long before up had his cc down.
No way =o
Bisu had his first expo down yes, but he cancelled it in anticipation of the marine rush. He needed to or he would have been crushed. Then his expo was definitely MILES behind Up's as he teched all the way to DT's before finally putting his nexus down...Up put his CC down immediately after the failed cheese (which Bisu should have done as well), and walled with 3 supply depots so Bisu couldn't tell what he was teching to, making Bisu play safer.
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the 2nd nexus was done long after upmagic's cc was finished and he was mining.
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I dont think hwasin will win now. Iris's tvt record is something like 23-8 wtf!!!o_o
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Catyoul
France2377 Posts
Blue Storm Iris @ 7 Hwasin @ 2
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greate colors...tvt with green and light green...jesus
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hwasin is teal and starts at 2 while iris is green and starts at 7
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iris is beating hwasin by 6:0
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Catyoul
France2377 Posts
Both supply first in their mains
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On October 26 2007 19:05 phreekill wrote: Hwasin making a sophisticated emo entrance. What do you mean? I didn't see it
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Catyoul
France2377 Posts
First fac started for both and first marine/barracks moving out
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Catyoul
France2377 Posts
Both exp after first marine
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Catyoul
France2377 Posts
Both addon + start a second fac
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Ok this time I'm taking a shot for every scv killed...ok no.
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ggogoggo livereport Ubri! Lucky man has free time :-)
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Catyoul
France2377 Posts
Iris gets 3 vults in Hwasin's main. Hwasin's vults were a bit far. Iris gets a couple scvs i think.
Both are going 4-5 facs vults
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Catyoul
France2377 Posts
Hwasin attacks Iris at the ramp above the nat
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i hate this only vulture shit T_T
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Catyoul
France2377 Posts
That was many vultures, Iris pulls a couple scvs to help and defends.
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Catyoul
France2377 Posts
Hwasin has a 2nd addon and 3 tanks now
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Catyoul
France2377 Posts
Iris sneaking vults through the right again. At the same time Hwasin sieges outside Iris' nat and forces a CC lift. Hwasin defends with a couple tanks and vults at home
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Catyoul
France2377 Posts
Iris tries to kill the tanks with vults/mines. I think Hwasin targeted the first wave of mines and killed them successfully ! Iris eventually gets the tank. Hwasin expoes at 5. Iris had an expo at 9 for some time it seems (probably the lifted CC)
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Catyoul
France2377 Posts
Incoming attack from Hwasin !
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Catyoul
France2377 Posts
Hwasin sieges the high ground near Iris 9 expo
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Catyoul
France2377 Posts
Typical TvT mess ensues. After the dust settles Hwasin still has 3 tanks sieged and Iris too, Iris is forced to lift.
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hwasin is raping him badly...
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Catyoul
France2377 Posts
3 starports building for Hwasin
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Catyoul
France2377 Posts
A vulture raid from Iris is intercepted at the top of the map
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Catyoul
France2377 Posts
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Netherlands19120 Posts
Same shit different game, first one to build a tank or gol wins.
This was beyond anticlimatic.
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gg,....great 0/2 just my day ^^
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I bet not many people predicted both Hwasin and Upmagic as winners.
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Netherlands19120 Posts
The second Iris lifted his CC he lost it.
Add tanks earlier next time. I thought people would friggin learn by now t_t. It's like watching a trainwreck in slowmotion the last few TvTs I've watched except OOVs mass BC clash.
And that great Mind vs Hwasin on persona or Hwasin vs Shine? Can't remember but that was a great game as well.
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On October 26 2007 19:28 Nyovne wrote: The second Iris lifted his CC he lost it.
Add tanks earlier next time. I thought people would friggin learn by now t_t. It's like watching a trainwreck in slowmotion the last few TvTs I've watched except OOVs mass BC clash.
And that great Mind vs Hwasin on persona or Hwasin vs Shine? Can't remember but that was a great game as well.
i think u mean light vs hwasin
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i think in the group B we will see a tie breaker
july will lost to hwasin so he is going to be 0-3
hwasin will win against july going to be 2-1
iris will win against light so he is going to be 2-1
light will lost agianst iris so its going to be 2-1
TIE BREAKER IRIS, HWASIN, LIGHT
edit : 1/2
edit2 : upmagic will advance for sure he is currently 2-0
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I hope not...that just means more TvT's
edit: 0/2 sigh
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Well, two easy wins left.
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Ack. On top of Bisu now having to beat Shudder to guarantee a trip out of his group (and GGplay beating Upmagic), Iris's TvT flops the one time I wanted to see it work.
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On October 26 2007 19:33 .dragoon wrote: Well, two easy wins left.
from my point of view...this was a day where i thought i would get 4/4 easy...i mean, come on...bisu loses, than WTF iris loses a TvT in his current shape?? and now jaedong and saviour...but i'm sure that both will lose...it's just not my day!
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Well if it makes you feel better he should be able to beat shudder easily
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GO JAEDONG FOR 14-0 IN ZvT
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This is the one time I wouldn't mind if Jaedong lost.
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u gotta skate8152 Posts
On October 26 2007 19:37 trollbone wrote: GO JAEDONG FOR 14-0 IN ZvT
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GGplay is already out, bisu vs shudder will decide who advances with Upmagic
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i wanna see this next game so bad! hope nada brings his A game (or at least his B game).
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Nada vs zerg 70% Jaedong vs terran 81% :O
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Sooo pumped for this game. Even with a slumping nada you can't ask for a better match up.
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There are few things in StarCraft that I enjoy more than watching Jaedong ZvT.
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go joaedoooooooooon i forget still too soon games not finished T_T
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Netherlands19120 Posts
I love these map statistics and schematics before they start
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On October 26 2007 19:44 Nyovne wrote:I love these map statistics and schematics before they start
jep, me too
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Catyoul
France2377 Posts
Nada @ 8 (gaema gowon) Jaedong @ 5 (RoV)
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Should I report or doesn't matter?
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Netherlands19120 Posts
Nada(T) vs n.Die_Jaedong(Z) @ Monghwan2 (Fantasy II)
Nada 9, Jaedong 4.5
9 lord for Jaedong, normal 8/9 sup then rax for Nada.
12 hatch @ nat for Jaedong.
1 rax gas for Nada.
Drone scout on its way.
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Netherlands19120 Posts
Drone scout gets it right on the first go.
1 SCV on gas for Nada as he builds a factory which gets scouted by Jaedongs drone.
First rines out for Nada as jaedong adds a 3rd hatch at his nat and gas in his main.
Starport for Nada started.
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Hong Kong20321 Posts
FUCK 0/2 so far -__- wtf
GO JAEDONG AND SAVIOR NEXT 2 GAMES!! :D:D
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Man this game is intense.
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damn nada is just not his old self =/
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wow jaedong has way too many useless lings right now
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THIS GAMES FUCKING INTENSE
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Catyoul
France2377 Posts
So, Nada sneaked 2 vults and harassed for a while. Now a wraith has come and is harassing. Jaedong has nothing against the wraith. He tries to attack Nada's ramp but he has a lot of marines
Hydras out for Jaedong, drop incoming from Nada
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wow dropship...i take that back
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Catyoul
France2377 Posts
Nada moves out at the same time he drops. Jaedong had lings hidden at Nada's min only and runs in to wreak havoc !
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MAN after that i feel bad for nada :-/
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where did all his scv's go???
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Catyoul
France2377 Posts
The first drop of Nada got destroyed. He drops again and is destroying the main now, but he has no SCVS left at home !
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Ya poor nada. Jaedong's got him.
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Netherlands19120 Posts
Vult out for Nada and on its way to Jaedong, Starport finishes, no scvs on gas for nada, 2 lings running around for Jaedong and 2 vults for Nada.
Nada trying to get behind jaedongs mineral line but a drone tries to block but nada gets through with 1 of his two vults and makes it all the way into Jaedongs main for a few dronekills before being dealt with by lings.
First wraith for nada arrives at Jaedong and proceeds to kill some overlords!
A pile of speed lings headings towards Nadas ramp and gets brutally repelled by rines on the high ground.
Addon for Nada on the starport as Hydralistden finishes for Jaedong.
Wraith getting some drone kills as Nadas dropship finishes, loads with MnM and heads to Jaedongs Main......
Seems to be getting there undetected!
First hydra out, no spire but prolly lurker tech comming up as jaedong has a Lair for a while now.
Drop gets detected but no units near to deal with it!
Nada got his rines off his ramp and lings got into his main and are killing his barracks from a hidden position that got behind his rines at ramp.
Nada is currently out of units and out of scvs with more speed lings comming in towards his ramp!
Critical mistake to move down his ramp!
Nada lifting his building and just 3 scvs left!
Jaedongs speedlings arrive JUST BEFORE nada's medic gets out and to heal the firebat on the ramp and looks like nada moving down his ramp for NO REASON AT ALL BECAUSE HE HAD THE GAME WON is now costing him the game.
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very nicely rescued from jaedong...nada types out shortly
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Catyoul
France2377 Posts
Nada is now left with just his dropsip to cry now. Attack of the flying buildings
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wow this is how to lose a won game
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nada you stupid fucker! jaedong had 1 way out, and you didnt deny it!
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Nada had great BO. Now he is going to lose
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Hong Kong20321 Posts
On October 26 2007 19:55 UbRi wrote: wow this is how to lose a won game
yeah sounds like it to me wtf ;\ o well i voted jaedong >_<
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great save and counter by jaedong....wohoo...my first point today..and now gogo saviour
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Netherlands19120 Posts
Ok that is the most retarded move I've seen in ages. Way to go Nada to throw a 100% won game, fucking gratz lol.
What an epic noob mistake.
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Catyoul
France2377 Posts
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Well played by Jaedong, if only Nada left two firebats and a medic on the ramp, he would have had that game.
If I'm not mistaken Nada is out and Stork/Jaedong qualify.
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0/3 as well wonder how many are 0/3
bleh -_-
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lol nada's face is like "wtf did I do?"
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Netherlands19120 Posts
On October 26 2007 19:56 b(O.o)p wrote: great save and counter by jaedong....wohoo...my first point today..and now gogo saviour
Jaedong didnt win the game, Nada lost it.
And I mean he THREW it away harder then a monkey would fling poop if he could get his hands on it.
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oh shit, if nada had won i would be rank1 liquibet
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Nada 0-X out of OSL. The epic slump continues.
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Tits < Cave
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0/3 people how can u vote Nada =/ He isn't winning anything against Jaedong...
God that look on his face is heartbreaking
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I know how nada feels. I lost so much games because of backstabs.
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Netherlands19120 Posts
2nd trainwreck in slowmotion for the day.
Disappointing .
Savior better make his game worth while.
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2/3. Only Bisu let me down.
The games tonight have been awesome, though. Hopefully Rock puts up something of a fight against Savior.
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1/3
TY Terran killed ... Jeadong
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ahhaha what happend with Nada scvs ? He lost them to lings or what ? ahahhahaah gj Jaedong! ;0
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On October 26 2007 19:58 Ilikestarcraft wrote: I know how nada feels. I lost so much games because of backstabs.
me too
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Jaedong is now 14:0 vs T.
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Netherlands19120 Posts
On October 26 2007 19:58 Ilikestarcraft wrote: I know how nada feels. I lost so much games because of backstabs.
Theres two ramps to a natural and you *know* the man has a least 24 speed lings and they aren't in his main defending against the drop.
Maybe, just *maybe*, they are in a flanking position on the two seperate highground ramps.
And leaving your ramp / choke, unguarded with bats / medics is just unheard of in tvz. I won't even start on how it's willingly throwing a won game in that situation while you KNOW he's got a fuckload of speed lings.
It's just mind boggling how Nada threw this one.
I was rooting for Jaedong don't get me wrong but this game should have been Nada's if he hadn't lost it in an epic failure sorta way.
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On October 26 2007 20:00 puLs.ReADy wrote: ahhaha what happend with Nada scvs ? He lost them to lings or what ? ahahhahaah gj Jaedong! ;0
I thought the same thing. scvs just vanished.. Nada had a good start that game, he really blew that one.
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Netherlands19120 Posts
On October 26 2007 20:03 red.venom wrote:Show nested quote +On October 26 2007 20:00 puLs.ReADy wrote: ahhaha what happend with Nada scvs ? He lost them to lings or what ? ahahhahaah gj Jaedong! ;0 I thought the same thing. scvs just vanished.. Nada had a good start that game, he really blew that one.
Lost to lings while he cancelled the rines in his rax to build firebats to try and deal with the lings I guess.
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The more I think about it the more I dont really know what Nada was trying to do with that force of marines that moved out, that was really retarded. Any old school lotem player would know to just sit on the ramp and then you go out once you get your vessel to end the game. D: anyway
now we got the game of the night.. ;d go ma jae yoon~
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Netherlands19120 Posts
[13:07] <intrigue_> wow savior looks so pimp [13:07] <intrigue_> wow [13:07] <intrigue_> wow [13:07] <intrigue_> wow [13:07] <intrigue_> wow [13:07] <intrigue_> wow [13:07] <intrigue_> wow [13:07] <intrigue_> wow
^
The man is right y0.
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Savior 9-1 vP
yeah, that's right
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LOL I FORGOT THAT IS ON PERSONA LOL MAP
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Only matchup I've seen on this map is TvT. It should be interesting to have a zerg game there.
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On October 26 2007 20:02 Nyovne wrote:Show nested quote +On October 26 2007 19:58 Ilikestarcraft wrote: I know how nada feels. I lost so much games because of backstabs. Theres two ramps to a natural and you *know* the man has a least 24 speed lings and they aren't in his main defending against the drop. Maybe, just *maybe*, they are in a flanking position on the two seperate highground ramps. And leaving your ramp / choke, unguarded with bats / medics is just unheard of in tvz. I won't even start on how it's willingly throwing a won game in that situation while you KNOW he's got a fuckload of speed lings. It's just mind boggling how Nada threw this one. I was rooting for Jaedong don't get me wrong but this game should have been Nada's if he hadn't lost it in an epic failure sorta way.
My thoughts exactly. Wtf man, and leaving his base wasn't needed he was way ahead anyway. Not champion material.
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Game started Savior @ 12 Rock @ 3 Persona Ever
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Netherlands19120 Posts
Game starts, Nexus warped at 2 o clock, hatch at 12 ish.
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Looks like Savior is going 9 pool 9 gas
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Meanwhile Rock goes early forge, cannons already warping in.
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Netherlands19120 Posts
Pylon at choke between main and nat for Rock and probe seems to scout correctly straight away.
9 or 12 pool for savior to prevent pylon gayness in his choke, adds gas as well.
Forge gate for Rock.
Savior mining gas as his pool finishes.
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Savior starts up his lair tech as Rock gets his cyber core up.
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Netherlands19120 Posts
Drone and probe doing the dance at saviors nat as lings hatch and try to get the probe.
Probe tries to delay saviors exp at nat but fails as lings block it.
Savior stopped mining gas and has speed in a few moments.
Rock 1 cannon 1 zeal at his choke as he adds gas in his main.
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Rock's stargate finishes, and it looks like he's sending his 4 zealots up to Savior's base, or at least wants savior to think he is, yup hes moving back with the zealots. Corsair harass started, Savior has a hydra on defense.
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is SC2.org stream working? It doesnt advances from "Preparing channel" here
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Catyoul
France2377 Posts
Savior 3 hatch hydras with lair Rock has his stargate now and is moving to Savior with 4 zealots
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Catyoul
France2377 Posts
Nevermind he stayed home with his zealots
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Zealot speed finished, Rock's zealots run alongside Savior's zerglings towards Savior's nat.
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Rock engages with ~9 zealots, hits the sunken line as well as something like 20 lings, and is pushed back.
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Lol and now his zealots are sorta chilling in the swarm as the sunken tongue hits harmlessly.
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Netherlands19120 Posts
2nd hatch in main for savior for a total of 3 hatches.
Rocks probe still in Saviors main and lings chasing it.
Cybercore finishes for Rock as Savior starts his lair.
Rock sends a new scouting probe as soon as his last one dies and as it gets spotted he sends his first 3 zeals after it.
Stargate for rock and hydra den for savior.
Savior recalling his lord from Rocks main.
(scouting probe got dealt with in the meanwhile)
Rock sending 4 zeals over to saviors expo, savior adding a sunken at his nat as he presumably is researching lord speed and building hydras.
First corsair is out as is the first hydra.
Corsair ALMOST kills the recalled lord from Rocks main but sees it cant win before the hydra kills it.
Rock adding gates for a total of 4 and a citadel of adun in his main.
Savior makes some speed lings get themselves at home in rocks still vacant natural.
Corsairs cruising around as rock continues to add zeals and has speed for them in the making.
Rock Moving out with 10ish zealots as speed kicks in for a timing attack.
Savior sees it and recalls his zerglings.
They engage at Saviors Natural!
*Stream dies*
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Lurkers come out, finish off the rest of Rock's zealots as they try to get a few drone kills but fail.
And my stream has died :-/
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looks like savior defended well!
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my stream started getting really laggy and than just died t.t
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Stream finally up again, Savior is winnar!
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Netherlands19120 Posts
Stream still dead, just saw a glimps of lurkers and lings cleaning up zealots zzz.
Wtf is this gay shit =[.
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3/4 for tonight, not bad
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eh: [ gay that stream died. i guess savior won it though? (Cuz that was the worst ive seen a P do with that opening in forever)
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Netherlands19120 Posts
ok this is how it went for me,
Rock goes in with all his speed zeals
*stream dies*
1 min later I get 2 frames in which lurkers clean up
*stream dies*
1 min later rock GG's
*and stream dies again*
Epic.
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daum stream works but see its already over t.t Savior won what happened?
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On October 26 2007 20:25 red.venom wrote: eh: [ gay that stream died. i guess savior won it though? (Cuz that was the worst ive seen a P do with that opening in forever)
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ok...so at least...jaedong and saviour won for me...2/4....
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On October 26 2007 20:26 Ilikestarcraft wrote: daum stream works but see its already over t.t Savior won what happened?
Judging by the course of events.. Anything Savior did would win the game. He had ovie speed, could have lurker dropped maybe.. he had that spire coming.. couple mutas to rocks base to end it. Just mass lurk/ling running to rocks base perhaps. eh
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On October 26 2007 20:27 b(O.o)p wrote: ok...so at least...jaedong and saviour won for me...2/4....
its savior ;P
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Some klutz tripped over a cord...
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Nyovne = 000.Zulu on GosuGamers?
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I'll have to watch the vod but I assume the natural continuation is that Savior stops the crappy 3 gate zeal attack and then counters with ling/lurk ftw.
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Nope, I´m just copy paste...
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Yep since I´m a real noob @ sc:bw I normaly keep my mouth shut and just watch/read...
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Netherlands19120 Posts
On October 26 2007 20:29 edzwoo wrote: Nyovne = 000.Zulu on GosuGamers? Nope, never been to GG.net and I avoid it like the plague.
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Netherlands19120 Posts
On October 26 2007 20:31 000.Zulu wrote: Nope, I´m just copy paste... Ah that sorts it I guess -.- ~~
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Melbourne5338 Posts
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Hong Kong20321 Posts
wow nice gruop thingy haven't seen it before haha good job xD
gogosavior :D
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Bisu against Shudder for a place out of there. Hm.
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Ohh man savior has this osl.
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I'm so watching Bisu vs Shudder.
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On October 26 2007 21:49 Sadness wrote: Bisu, plz rape Shudder I want Bisu in the OSL to make it more epic Go Bisu
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Bisu versus Savior showdowns in both leagues would be brilliant, but Bisu actually needs to make it out of the groups first. Either way, Bisu hasn't won a game on Blue Storm in PvT iirc (Outmacroed by Hwasin and that proxy attempt versus Oov). Hopefully he'll stop Proxying, guard for a cheese strat and play straight up in two weeks, because bar Bisu's two losses Protoss has had a fairly good time on this map.
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I predict, if Jaedong beats Stork, he has a good chance of winning the entire OSL.
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Ugh, Iris was supposed to beat Hwasin so he could get his karma out of the way and I could root for him next season without feeling a bit guilty.
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Damnit ... Nada's report read like the old iloveoov's reports ... IN OPPOSITE LAND. "Nada winning. Nada got this. Nada is pwning him. Nada gg's"
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yakii
Korea (South)1448 Posts
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thx a lot yakii!
whats the point of splitting the vods?
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so...who faces who after the group stage?
UpMagic vs who etc.
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There's still two more weeks of Ro16 you know. Group stages aren't exactly over...
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United States7488 Posts
On October 27 2007 02:24 Aepplet wrote: so...who faces who after the group stage?
UpMagic vs who etc.
If they use the same bracket pairing as last season (which I think they would) the Ro8 looks like this:
Match A: A1 v C2
Match B: C1 v D2
Match C: B1 v A2
Match D: D1 v B2
UpMagic looks like he will finish as A1 regardless, so he will play the loser of next week's game between Jaedong and Stork.
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upmagic vs. bisu was awesome. go upmagic!
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On October 27 2007 02:55 semioldguy wrote:Show nested quote +On October 27 2007 02:24 Aepplet wrote: so...who faces who after the group stage?
UpMagic vs who etc. If they use the same bracket pairing as last season (which I think they would) the Ro8 looks like this: Match A: A1 v C2 Match B: C1 v D2 Match C: B1 v A2 Match D: D1 v B2 UpMagic looks like he will finish as A1 regardless, so he will play the loser of next week's game between Jaedong and Stork.
thanks a lot =)
i'll speculate a bit on the outcome.
UpMagic [vs] Jaedong has secured #1 [vs] i think his ZvP is weaker than Stork's PvZ, therefore #2 Stork [vs] Frozean see above [vs] sorry Rock, you won't make it T_T Hwasin [vs] Bisu wins tie-break [vs] beats shudder for the 2nd spot Savior [vs] Iris he'll beat flash [vs] will take #2 in tie-break
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United States7488 Posts
On October 27 2007 03:53 Aepplet wrote: i'll speculate a bit on the outcome.
UpMagic [vs] Jaedong has secured #1 [vs] i think his ZvP is weaker than Stork's PvZ, therefore #2 Stork [vs] Frozean see above [vs] sorry Rock, you won't make it T_T Hwasin [vs] Bisu wins tie-break [vs] beats shudder for the 2nd spot Savior [vs] Iris he'll beat flash [vs] will take #2 in tie-break
That'd be pretty nuts. Iris-Savior re-rematch and Bisu-Hwasin (re-)re-rematch. Then potentially Bisu-Savior or Savior-Hwasin and even Iris-Bisu or Iris-Hwasin would be super exciting.
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That Nada game is just sad. Nice timing, nice micro, he seemed to have it all figured out, then he simply lost his mind.
It reminded me of Boxer shinwa :|
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I was hoping, but I didn't really predict UpMagiC winning vs Bisu. I wonder what Bisu thought, proxying like that. It was a bit unlucky because he didn't predict UpMagiC sending a second scout out (for proxy rax)... But he could have really tried to play it safe. I doubt UpMagiC's rush would have succeeded vs a normal build from Bisu. And UpMagiC is a lot better early game TvP than in lategame, so I wonder why Bisu wanted to end it so fast.
And yes, Bisu was kinda behind from the beginning, NOT that much from the start though. The thing that really changed the game into UpMagiC's favor though, was that Bisu couldn't get his scout through so he could see the early CC. Because of that, he probably didn't want to risk Nexusing so quickly which really put him behind. From that moment, UpMagiC just used his advantage to the fullest with those well performed m&m-drops. Interesting game though. I'm so happy UpMagiC advanced to the OSL!
The other games weren't that good. Nada vs Jaedong almost broke my heart when Nada lost that way and looked close to tears.
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Valhalla18444 Posts
i knew i'd regret choosing iris over hwasin hahah
bisu vs upmagic sounds like it was fun
edit: hahahahah i went 2/4 and my rank didn't change
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nice magic gogo hwasin almost nada maestro
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Sometimes..
Even Legends make mistakes..
NaDa fighting...
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On October 27 2007 01:53 Jim wrote: thx a lot yakii!
whats the point of splitting the vods? space limit for uploads
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shudder shudder shudder shudder
:D
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Melbourne5338 Posts
Outcomes
Group A Upmagic v GGPlay: ->Either: -----> Bisu: ----------> Upmagic = A1, Bisu = A2 -----> Shudder: ----------> Upmagic = A1, Shudder = A2
Group B July v Hwasin: -> July: -----> Iris: ----------> Iris = B1, Light = B2 -----> Light: ----------> Light = B1, 3-Way Tie (July, Hwasin, Iris) for B2 -> Hwasin: -----> Iris: ----------> 3-Way Tie (Hwasin, Iris, Light) for B1,B2 -----> Light: ----------> Light = B1, Hwasin B2
Group C Jaedong v Stork: -> Jaedong: -----> Either: ----------> Jaedong = C1, Stork = C2 -> Stork: -----> Either: ----------> Stork = C1, Jaedong = C2
Group D Flash v Savior: -> Savior: -----> Frozean: ----------> Savior = D1, Frozen = D2 -----> Rock: ----------> Savior = D1, 3-Way Tie (Frozean, Rock, Flash) for D2 -> Flash: -----> Frozean: ----------> 3-Way Tie (Savior, Flash, Frozean) for D1, D2 -----> Rock: ----------> Flash = D1, Savior = D2
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nada's reaction made me remember that video that someone posted a while back that was just a compilation of sad faces and reactions after loosing games. I cant find it with search.
Can anyone help me find that? (didnt want to start a whole thread just to ask)
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Melbourne5338 Posts
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While I too was rooting for poor ol' Nada, this is just what I wanted to see from Jaedong. ZvT has been too easy for him, and I can't really be convinced of his ZvT dominance until he's able to either steal games or pull off amazing game breaking moves in tight situations. He was never put in those situations so we were never able to see what he's made of, but me managed to steal one here.
Let's see how many close-calls he can survive. He's sure to encounter a few of them this OSL
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Melbourne5338 Posts
It's actually possible for Jaedong to win OSL with only ZvT... *prays*
ie. Jaedong < Stork Jaedong > Upmagic Jaedong > Frozean/Flash Jaedong > Hwasin/Light/Shudder
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Man, Jaedong is going to have to hope he loses to Stork, in order to avoid Bisu.
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Melbourne5338 Posts
Bisu is on the other side of the bracket even if he loses. (If the bracket is the same as last OSL)
(A1 C2) v (D2 C1)
(D1 B2) v (A2 B1)
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