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+ Show Spoiler +Stork[gm] < Bisu by.hero < Leta BeSt[HyO] < Hwasin Luxury < Jaedong
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
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holy shit stork vs bisu starting soon just after samsung vs skt.
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Russian Federation376 Posts
Plexa thanks, but, is there low-quality stream with less bitrate?
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VLC link not working i believe... mind vs bisu atm from a different game
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Spenguin
Australia3316 Posts
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Yea, right now it's showing the Wildcard matches but in about 10 minutes it should change.
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for some reason I cant make this stream working with VLC, but GOM is not letting me down
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OP by a jaedong hater, OMG!
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it says stork vs bisu up next on bottom
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starting in 8 minutes or so according to ogn!
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daum has a link unlike MSL so everyone shouldn't be so worried.
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
oh sick! theyre showing OSL on Daum!!
NOW IF ONLY MSL WERE THE SAME GRRR
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On February 04 2009 18:21 hk2717 wrote: OP by a jaedong hater, OMG!
am i supposed to like him because everyone else does?
how does my dislike for a player have to do with my ability to create a topic?
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
ya who gives a shit hk2717? I hate Jaedong with a burning passion, as well as the rest of the Lecaf Oz roster
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will there be any stream for tomorrow's MSL matches? i really want to see Flash vs firebathero
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Song Byung Goo Hwaiting!
This format of basically one game per week is so conducive to Stork's heavy preparation style. He better make it out.
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Try to NOT get an argument going here, kind of ruined yesterdays WL thread for me. =(
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hmm... it always freezes after about 5 seconds in VLC, anyone know why?
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On February 04 2009 18:24 rushz0rz wrote:am i supposed to like him because everyone else does? how does my dislike for a player have to do with my ability to create a topic?
because of the aura!
never mind. I am just kidding.
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Spenguin
Australia3316 Posts
Hmm anyone else having problems loading it up with VLC? getting to 1 second then freezing.
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On February 04 2009 18:28 Spenguin wrote: Hmm anyone else having problems loading it up with VLC? getting to 1 second then freezing. same to me, but works ok with WMP
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Links not working... stop and go T_T
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On February 04 2009 18:28 Spenguin wrote: Hmm anyone else having problems loading it up with VLC? getting to 1 second then freezing. same to me, try GOM
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Is it on Daum Sports Direct?
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I had the same pausing problem, so I stopped stream and restarted. Worked fine for me.
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
anyone struggling with daum sports just refresh x1000 times and it'll EVENTUALLY work
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On February 04 2009 18:29 Elsi wrote: Is it on Daum Sports Direct?
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On February 04 2009 18:29 CoL_DarkstaR wrote: Links not working... stop and go T_T
for Daum Sports, I think it will start when the actual event starts, in about a minute. Also, go to properties and c/p the link there, or open it up, c/p and paste into IE.
As for VLC, it's just luck, whether or not it freezes or just doesn't work.
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this is gonna be a epic group
Leta + Jaedong to move on
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And we are off~
GO BISU REVENGE FOR WL GOGOGO
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United States17042 Posts
oh, it's back to 18:30, and the calendar was wrong again? >.> hmm
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On February 04 2009 18:27 baubo wrote: Song Byung Goo Hwaiting!
This format of basically one game per week is so conducive to Stork's heavy preparation style. He better make it out. second that
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
we're only playing one game from each group tonight Pr0sPeCt
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On February 04 2009 18:29 johanes wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2009 18:28 Spenguin wrote: Hmm anyone else having problems loading it up with VLC? getting to 1 second then freezing. same to me, but works ok with WMP
THX. put into WMP and now it works a lot better, it's buffering every now and again, but thats better than a goddamn slideshow.
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doesnt seem to work with VLC, winamp and windows media player for me
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United States17042 Posts
oh i <3 daum sports. I'm so glad that the osl does this. now if only the stupid msl learned >.>
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On February 04 2009 18:32 Jiiks wrote: yaoyuan 800k lag free ^^
goddamn you!
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Whee, I got a good Daum Sports link working in only 3 refreshes.
If there were starcraft gods I'd pray for it to stay that way ^^
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Russian Federation376 Posts
On February 04 2009 18:33 -slo.m1ke- wrote: lq stream pls thx
i second it
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On February 04 2009 18:34 bitchaRd[raGe] wrote:i second it 3rd
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If my stream is working then I will live report for the amazing Bisu[Shield] game!
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On February 04 2009 18:35 Yaqoob wrote: If my stream is working then I will live report for the amazing Bisu[Shield] game! Please do
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I know Daum streams at around 400-500k, I don't know anything that goes lower than that.
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Thanks for the strem did not work on VLC thou but worked with windows media
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United States17042 Posts
On February 04 2009 18:35 Yaqoob wrote: If my stream is working then I will live report for the amazing Bisu[Shield] game!
Same here xD I love it when they manage to cast it on daum sports. Although i've tried about 10 x for the daum sports, so my hope isn't as high -_-;;
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As much as I am a Bisu fan, for some reason I'm rooting for Stork tonight. His game vs. ForGG was amazing.
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United States17042 Posts
So we have 4 different games tonight? There is no continuity with this format -_-;;
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Stork looking very serious to give some to bisu.
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I manage to get a good stream with good sounds but the problem is, the screen is always black for me. O.o Am I missing something? Problem with plug-in?
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YES!!!! FOUND A GOOD PLAYLIST ON DAUM SPORTS.
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United States10774 Posts
Tassadar vs Zeratul hahaha
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On February 04 2009 18:39 OneOther wrote: Tassadar vs Zeratul hahaha sup OneOther
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God damn you know your a broodwar junkie when your a fan of every single player in the osl lol.
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United States17042 Posts
On February 04 2009 18:39 rushz0rz wrote: YES!!!! FOUND A GOOD PLAYLIST ON DAUM SPORTS.
arn't they all the same, and as you refresh the number just randomly changes?
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On February 04 2009 18:39 OneOther wrote: Tassadar vs Zeratul hahaha
Lol so true. They're good friends but now they meet in battle!
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Man, I'm about to save that intro. Its so ridiculous :O
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United States17042 Posts
On February 04 2009 18:40 AttackZerg wrote: God damn you know your a broodwar junkie when your a fan of every single player in the osl lol.
or when it's 1:41 am, and this is the second stream that you've seen tonight?
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United States10774 Posts
On February 04 2009 18:40 disciple wrote:sup OneOther why hello there disciple
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That intro was pretty awesome compared to some of the other intros lately.
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On February 04 2009 18:41 OneOther wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2009 18:40 disciple wrote:On February 04 2009 18:39 OneOther wrote: Tassadar vs Zeratul hahaha sup OneOther why hello there disciple GL to your guy
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On February 04 2009 18:41 GHOSTCLAW wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2009 18:40 AttackZerg wrote: God damn you know your a broodwar junkie when your a fan of every single player in the osl lol. or when it's 1:41 am, and this is the second stream that you've seen tonight? or when its 4:41, its the second stream uve watched, and uve gota get up in like 2 hours for ur morning class lol
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Stork warps in at 11 Bisu warps in at 7
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United States17042 Posts
alright, here we go, with stork at 11 bisu at 7.
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come on storky!
shame u don't use ur ID like Bisu does!
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On February 04 2009 18:41 GHOSTCLAW wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2009 18:40 AttackZerg wrote: God damn you know your a broodwar junkie when your a fan of every single player in the osl lol. or when it's 1:41 am, and this is the second stream that you've seen tonight? Or its 3:43 am... and you have the easiest job in the world and get payed to do homework and watch starcraft every night....
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LOL AT SIGN hahaha that is funny
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Both have cybernetics core up with 1 gate
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i hope on long games.. first time that i get a full stream =D
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Did they type in 1a2a3a4a etc. at the pregame screen? Koreans have a nice sense of humor ^^
Bisu at 7, Stork at 11.
Identical builds so far, 1 gate tech.
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United States17042 Posts
On February 04 2009 18:44 Bosu wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2009 18:41 GHOSTCLAW wrote:On February 04 2009 18:40 AttackZerg wrote: God damn you know your a broodwar junkie when your a fan of every single player in the osl lol. or when it's 1:41 am, and this is the second stream that you've seen tonight? Or its 3:43 am... and you have the easiest job in the world and get payed to do homework and watch starcraft every night....
if i got paid to do homework and watch sc, my life would be really good.
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There is way more cheering for Bisu[Shield] but I am kinda worried because + Show Spoiler +Bisu lost to jangbi about 2-3 hours ago in Winners League but I believe in the strength of Bisu.
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Stork builds another gateway at his natural and hides it Bisu builds another gateway
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United States17042 Posts
identical builds, although stork has a proxy gate at his nat behind his mineral patches. Sick sick placement.
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Stork gets a scouting prove in and see's 2 gateways with range upgrading.
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guys i just tuned in, who is who?
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United States17042 Posts
bisu dosen't scout stork's build, so dosen't know that they're practically the same. Stork got his second gate before range, bisu got range before second gate.
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On February 04 2009 18:46 Raithed wrote: guys i just tuned in, who is who?
stork at 11 bius at 7
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Bisu gets Robotics while Stork pumps goons
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On February 04 2009 18:46 Raithed wrote: guys i just tuned in, who is who? Stork is green @ 10 and Bisu is orange @ 6
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United States17042 Posts
robo started for bisu, bisu's trying to apply pressure, but they ahve the same goon numbers.
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On February 04 2009 18:45 GHOSTCLAW wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2009 18:44 Bosu wrote:On February 04 2009 18:41 GHOSTCLAW wrote:On February 04 2009 18:40 AttackZerg wrote: God damn you know your a broodwar junkie when your a fan of every single player in the osl lol. or when it's 1:41 am, and this is the second stream that you've seen tonight? Or its 3:43 am... and you have the easiest job in the world and get payed to do homework and watch starcraft every night.... if i got paid to watch sc, my life would be really good.
Fixed
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Sick goon dancing by Stork. He snipes Bisu's zealot and keeps all his units.
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On February 04 2009 18:47 CoL_DarkstaR wrote: colors please!
Stork is Green Bisu is Orange
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United States17042 Posts
identical, mirrored builds so far, all the way into robo. Both are retreating, guarding at nat, and waiting for their first reaver. Bisu just got robotics support, and much faster than stork, so i'm guessing that bisu skipped shuttle and went straight to reaver to help defend
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Stork with about 6 goons and 1 zeal and Bisu with 6 goons. Bisu is getting a support bay and keeping his goons in his choke between his main and his natural. Stork looks liek he is trying to apply pressure and is keeping his goons in the middle of the map.
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I don't see the point in Stork's second gateway placement.
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Bisu with a nice semi circle in his main. It does look like Stork has more goons. Stork with a support bay also and has his units set up in a spread out arc in the middle of the map. Bisu with a shuttle and reaver and he is moving out.
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United States10774 Posts
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Bisu assuming a defensive position, both players getting reaver tech. Bisu's shuttle moving out before Stork's. Bisu dropping reaver, fails to kill probes.Stork brings reaver with him, Bisu retreats his back OMG SO SICK MICRO BISU WINS BARELY AFTER PULLING MANY MANY PROBES
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Big battle at Bisu's natural Armies are decimated
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United States17042 Posts
stork sets up a wide arc next to the backdoor entrance. bisu tries to harass stork's main, but stork knows that means that he has his reaver, and bisu dosen't
wow nice micro on both sides, althoug bisu was forced to pull probes, and he lost a ton of probes
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On February 04 2009 18:50 OneOther wrote: YES STORK !!!! IDD
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Bisu, please don't let me down.
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BISU GETTING REVENGE FOR HIS PROBE LOSSES, SNIPES STORK'S REAVER! Bisu looks down in econ though
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United States17042 Posts
bisu's really far behind, as he dosen't have anywhere near as many probes as stork does. bisu knows this, and tries to harass stork's main, he probably manages to nail 5 probes. stork loses his reaver in a harass attempt however (and shuttle) and he only gets 2 probes. Bisu has worse econ, but stork is down on reaver count
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Bisu's scarabs working this time.
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United States17042 Posts
Bisu trying to pressure stork, both have about equal goon reaver numbers, but bisu has a shuttle, and stork dosen't.
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stork with the stork face despite being ahead
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On February 04 2009 18:50 Xstatic wrote: Bisu assuming a defensive position, both players getting reaver tech. Bisu's shuttle moving out before Stork's. Bisu dropping reaver, fails to kill probes.Stork brings reaver with him, Bisu retreats his back OMG SO SICK MICRO BISU WINS BARELY AFTER PULLING MANY MANY PROBES
Are you kiding BIsu lost tons of probes !!
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wow nice allurement by Bisu so the reaver can get in and pick off some probes.
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United States17042 Posts
oh man, this is redic. bisu tries to harass again with 2 reavers, and he gets 4 probes. STork is in trouble, as if he keeps running his probes away he's not going to be able to have the income to keep his macro advantage. bisu knows that without a shuttle, stork can't really defend in 2 places at once.
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Bisu harassing with 2 reavers and kills some probes in Storks main but a couple of scarbs decided to bug out on him
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NUUUUU MY STREAM FROZE AHH FUCK
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United States17042 Posts
stork now has a shuttle and 2 reavers, they have the same count. bisu's going to go try to puressure stork with goons and reavers. Neither has expanded yet. this game is still really really close.
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bisu expo'ing he's got 3 reavers.
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BISU'S BACK SNIPING EPIC PROBES WITH 2 REAVERS! Damn sick micro. Stork doesn't have a shuttle, so his reavers are sitting there. Stork still looks ahead, but Bisu has more goons. Bisu backs off and decides to expand.
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Now i can't tell who is ahead ...
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On February 04 2009 18:54 raga4ka wrote: Now i can't tell who is ahead ...
i'd say Bisu, but not by much.
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United States17042 Posts
bisu decides that he has enough defense to expand, with 3 reavers and a shuttle. every second that stork waits now puts him further and further behind. Stork needs to scout this expansion, but i'm not sure that he's going to get a chance to.
man that's a lot of people watching these games.
stork still hasn't starting his own expansion yet, and he just scouted bisu's starting his own expansion. STork has nowhere newar enough units to pressure, but it looks like he's going to try anyway.
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stork going for the temples!!! bisu doesn't see it!
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On February 04 2009 18:54 rushz0rz wrote:i'd say Bisu, but not by much.
it all depends on this battle right here, because stork dosen't have an expo.
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Stork decides to not expo and instead push for a tempo break with scarabs. TEMPLES ARE DOWN! STORK MOVING IN!
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United States17042 Posts
stork trying to shoot down the backdoor temple with reavers, he needs this attack to work becuase he dosen't have an expansion otherwise. bisu spots it with his obs, and he should be able to use his reinforcement s to defend.
here we go, right here is where stork either wins or loses. it's goingt o come down to micro, and stork loses one reaver. things don't look good for stork.
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hahahah that was amusing.
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United States10774 Posts
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stork still has 2 reavers, bisu only has 1, but stork has his shuttle, and that's what's toingg o make the difference
no shuttle, and now stork has no units left- 0 reavers for both, and stork has been behind an expo with no econ advantage. the next round bisu is so far ahead he's going to be unstoppable
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BISU WINS THE BATTLE! So sexy! Stork takes his nat and Bisu's now up, having had his nat for a while now.
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BIsu-Stork always epic :/
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Bisu's ahead =[
he's got the expo up n running!
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China3334 Posts
DAMN I'M BREATHLESS
Game between two my favorite players!
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United States17042 Posts
bisu's got this the next time he attacks- bisu has 3 reavers to defend, stork has a slightly higher goon count. Stork's going to need to get his next expo up faster than bisu (like 2 min faster) to be able to gain an advantage that lets him win, but he's going to need to survive that long.
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United States17042 Posts
bisu's macro advantage is starting to show already, and he's moving in to pressure stork. stork snipes the shuttle, and is trying to snipe the reavers, can stork hold? it's goingt o be close, and it really depends on if his next round of goons can come out fast enough
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freakin SICK GAME.....wow...
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hahaha the slow reaver micro is hilarious. these 2 are fuckin' awesome.
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lol @ bisu reavers moving slowly! SICK BISU
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United States10774 Posts
stork blew his advantage when he went in again after killing a lot of probes. lost his shuttle/reaver for 3 probes. damnit why did you have to be so greedy
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stork is forced to pull probes, but at least he sniped the reavers in doing so. stork is now behind, and just losing more probes that he can't really afford to lose
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haha....stork's expression. Reminds me of when Bisu picked Zerg(Yarnc) for their group.
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On February 04 2009 18:59 OneOther wrote: stork blew his advantage when he went in again after killing a lot of probes. lost his shuttle/reaver for 3 probes. damnit why did you have to be so greedy
did he get speedshuttles the whole game? they loowed like slowshuttles
gg, and bisu wins
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BISU MOVING IN, WINS THE BATTLE, PUSHING INTO THE NAT! Stork pulling probes to desperately defend, but units are streaming in for both players - Stork GGs! Damnnnnn how did Bisu hold that temple break attack off ... and still come out ahead? PvP at its finest!
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On February 04 2009 19:00 GHOSTCLAW wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2009 18:59 OneOther wrote: stork blew his advantage when he went in again after killing a lot of probes. lost his shuttle/reaver for 3 probes. damnit why did you have to be so greedy did he get speedshuttles the whole game? they loowed like slowshuttles gg, and bisu wins both of them had slow shuttles
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Uh oh Stork now Yellow and July for you next .Shouldn't have picked BIsu
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On February 04 2009 18:59 OneOther wrote: stork blew his advantage when he went in again after killing a lot of probes. lost his shuttle/reaver for 3 probes. damnit why did you have to be so greedy Tell me about it, thats exactly how I felt after game 3 in the previous OSL
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On February 04 2009 18:59 OneOther wrote: stork blew his advantage when he went in again after killing a lot of probes. lost his shuttle/reaver for 3 probes. damnit why did you have to be so greedy
Very true, he only killed 3 probes!
Should of stayed back and kept his reaver/shuttle!
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WOOHOO
Stork and Jangbi u suck!!
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United States17042 Posts
On February 04 2009 19:00 OneOther wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2009 19:00 GHOSTCLAW wrote:On February 04 2009 18:59 OneOther wrote: stork blew his advantage when he went in again after killing a lot of probes. lost his shuttle/reaver for 3 probes. damnit why did you have to be so greedy did he get speedshuttles the whole game? they loowed like slowshuttles gg, and bisu wins both of them had slow shuttles
What on earth was stork doing trying to get himself an econ lead with slowshuttles against goons -_-;; yep, threw away his advantage, and then it didn't help that he decided to expand really late compared to bisu.
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The game was so exciting.
I love how when S class protoss play huge battles often end with 1 unit left.
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That was an EPIC PvP! I was on the edge of my seat the whole match.
Cant wait to see JD win his match now
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what's the situation now? bisu leads 1:0 or what ?
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Russian Federation376 Posts
Did Stork cry or just very sad? I guess i saw the tears.
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Son of a bitch ... stream was so crap for me and it was perfectly fine for WL, guess its cus a ton of people were watching ...
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United States17042 Posts
On February 04 2009 19:02 vector wrote: what's the situation now? bisu leads 1:0 or what ?
I believe so, and everyone plays again later
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On February 04 2009 19:01 Highways wrote: WOOHOO
Stork and Jangbi u suck!! huh?
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GG nice try by Stork in that back temple break . But its not very wise to attack back there because Bisu re-inforced easly with his faster nexus and gates right in his base ...
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On February 04 2009 19:01 Elsi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2009 18:59 OneOther wrote: stork blew his advantage when he went in again after killing a lot of probes. lost his shuttle/reaver for 3 probes. damnit why did you have to be so greedy Very true, he only killed 3 probes! Should of stayed back and kept his reaver/shuttle! yep. bring everything back and expand asaply, while defending against reaver harass. would have been easy game.
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Bisu is gunna 3-0 his group with ease.
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On February 04 2009 19:02 GHOSTCLAW wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2009 19:02 vector wrote: what's the situation now? bisu leads 1:0 or what ? I believe so, and everyone plays again later
on friday the 6th after looking at the calendar >.>
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Was that a commercial for a show about them dressing up for osl group selection? Because if it is I want to tune in.
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Is it just 1 game elimination in this round? if so damn =/
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On February 04 2009 19:02 vector wrote: what's the situation now? bisu leads 1:0 or what ?
it's a groupstage with 4 players, all of them play 3 times
so far it's
Bisu 1-0 July 0-0 Yarnc 0-0 Stork 0-1
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Someone needs to make a gif of Stork's headshake... hahaha.
Great play by Bisu, but man was that close... thought it was over for sure when his reavers were way out of position and he didn't even get any probes for it. Really fortunate he caught the temple antics and got his troops in position above the ramp. Just glad reaver scarabs didn't cost him 2 games today. :>
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On February 04 2009 19:01 Elsi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2009 18:59 OneOther wrote: stork blew his advantage when he went in again after killing a lot of probes. lost his shuttle/reaver for 3 probes. damnit why did you have to be so greedy Very true, he only killed 3 probes! Should of stayed back and kept his reaver/shuttle!
this reaver suicide of his won him many games (*koughh, Best*), and even against Bisu it worked for instance on Neo Requiem (though Stork lost later), in fact this is the first time i see this move so ineffective
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Yeah, that game was pretty awesome from the scarabs trying to find their targets, and like the two big battles that ended up with like 2 goons and a reaver for each side, especially at the end there with just reavers running around without shuttles.
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On February 04 2009 19:03 Lukeeze[zR] wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2009 19:02 vector wrote: what's the situation now? bisu leads 1:0 or what ? it's a groupstage with 4 players, all of them play 3 times so far it's Bisu 1-0 July 0-0 Yarnc 0-0 Stork 0-1
thanks
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On February 04 2009 19:02 lb wrote:huh?
I believe he's refering to the fact that stork and jangbi are on the same team, and they seem to lose to bisu a fair bit. However, bisu does lose to them as well, and the gomtv finals are much more important than this.
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Leta, Hwasin, and Luxury will win and I will be 4-0 in Liquibet tonight, THATS RIGHT Jaedong and Flash are going to lose ...
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On February 04 2009 19:03 Geo.Rion wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2009 19:01 Elsi wrote:On February 04 2009 18:59 OneOther wrote: stork blew his advantage when he went in again after killing a lot of probes. lost his shuttle/reaver for 3 probes. damnit why did you have to be so greedy Very true, he only killed 3 probes! Should of stayed back and kept his reaver/shuttle! this reaver suicide of his won him many games (*koughh, Best*), and even against Bisu it worked for instance on Neo Requiem (though Stork lost later), in fact this is the first time i see this move so ineffective those situations were completely different. Stork did a build where it's _okay_ to lose your shuttle/reaver as long as you kill a lot of probes. this is getting a huge advantage by killing your opponent's probes and throwing it away suiciding your reaver/shuttle lol. expo would have sealed the game ughhhh.
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On February 04 2009 19:03 Lukeeze[zR] wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2009 19:02 vector wrote: what's the situation now? bisu leads 1:0 or what ? it's a groupstage with 4 players, all of them play 3 times so far it's Bisu 1-0 July 0-0 Yarnc 0-0 Stork 0-1
so as far as i understand bisu and stork play only one game vs each other at this stage? lame :< anyway, thx for info
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Stork is too overaggressive in pvp unlike jangbi. He won many and lost many games due to this though.
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Yesss Bisu!
Redemption for that crappy proleague game today.
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No you give that poster too much credit hes just a khan toss hater/ bisu fan, theres no logic in his post really considering jangbi slowly undressed and molested bisu 2 hrs earlier. But I guess bisu gets revenge on stork, albeit a much closer game.
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On February 04 2009 19:04 reaver_drop wrote: Leta, Hwasin, and Luxury will win and I will be 4-0 in Liquibet tonight, THATS RIGHT Jaedong and Flash are going to lose ... Flash isnt playing today...
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the extra 150 apm matters ...
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Stork's initial attack was so effective, especially when Bisu's reaver was on the other side of the map. Suiciding his reavers wasn't too good - why didn't he do the same harass style Bisu did, firing scarabs from the higher ground? Too greedy
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So close yet so far... Now Stork has an uphill battle with 2 zergs coming up. Damn, he started that game so well too.
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Bisu with a cool 402 APM. Scary.
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wow so Stork's units were actually attackiing pylon in the back. -_-
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United States10774 Posts
I think Stork and Bisu are 8-8 in official games now, haha. Pretty amazing.
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On February 04 2009 19:06 disciple wrote: the extra 150 apm matters ...
Not really, Stork has the best sair/reaver control, better than Bisu, I can say, despite having the lower apm, hell Flash's apm is around the same range despite the legends of him having 400. What mattered was stork's decision making not an exta 50 apm.
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two players are advancing from group right ?
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bisu's AI pylon won the game...
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Lol I still don't get the rationale behind the proxy gate. Must've cost Stork some APM to pump units out of there.
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stream showing a slide show
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must give credit to bisu though, he harassed stork's mineral line pretty well, killed soo mnay workers without losing his reavers or shuttle!
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first game went smoothly on yauyong now, i dont have a working stream, VLC freezes every sec
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On February 04 2009 19:08 Xstatic wrote: Lol I still don't get the rationale behind the proxy gate. Must've cost Stork some APM to pump units out of there.
IMO, more of an early deception tactic
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Leta looks poised to take this easily. By.Hero will pay for taking Bisu out a few weeks back!
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On February 04 2009 19:06 o3.power91 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2009 19:04 reaver_drop wrote: Leta, Hwasin, and Luxury will win and I will be 4-0 in Liquibet tonight, THATS RIGHT Jaedong and Flash are going to lose ... Flash isnt playing today... I mean BeSt is going to lose, oops, no idea where Flash came from.
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On February 04 2009 19:08 Xstatic wrote: Lol I still don't get the rationale behind the proxy gate. Must've cost Stork some APM to pump units out of there.
made bisu wonder what was going on, and probably forced bisu to play safer. Both players are basically at the top of their game, so every little bit counts.
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On February 04 2009 19:08 Xstatic wrote: Lol I still don't get the rationale behind the proxy gate. Must've cost Stork some APM to pump units out of there.
they hotkeys their gates...........
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Tears of the moon is exactly the type of map that I can see leta excelling on.
From my take on the map 2 rax -> Fe could be very strong. Hopefully he is too smart to mech on this map imo its just garbage for it.
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Hero is going to get slaughtered now, seriously wtf is this guy doing in the OSL.
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On February 04 2009 19:08 Lukeeze[zR] wrote: 8-7 for the bird
if you add ISE its 9-9 :O
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On February 04 2009 19:08 Xstatic wrote: Lol I still don't get the rationale behind the proxy gate. Must've cost Stork some APM to pump units out of there. To trick Bisu into thinking he went 1 gate, making Bisu do the same and then overwhelming him with more units?
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As long as Leta is not still in a state of trauma about getting 2009'ed he should win quite easily.
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Any of you people with problems running the VLC stream using a wireless connection? I know that I can only stream starcraft when I am connected directly to my router with a cat5. If I am not it will be a slideshow or only work for a second. GOM works fine on wireless though.
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On February 04 2009 19:12 lb wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2009 19:08 Xstatic wrote: Lol I still don't get the rationale behind the proxy gate. Must've cost Stork some APM to pump units out of there. To trick Bisu into thinking he went 1 gate, making Bisu do the same and then overwhelming him with more units?
didn't end up overwhelming, it was super super close. stork did give himself an advantage though. and then lost it when he threw away his shuttle+reaver
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On February 04 2009 19:11 Itachii wrote: Hero is going to get slaughtered now, seriously wtf is this guy doing in the OSL.
Well, he beat Bisu in RO32 that's what he's doing in the OSL
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Leaving the pylon and gateway there could've had Bisu thinking anything from proxy templar to robo, assuming it wasn't scouted.
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On February 04 2009 19:08 Elsi wrote: stream showing a slide show
T_T
must give credit to bisu though, he harassed stork's mineral line pretty well, killed soo mnay workers without losing his reavers or shuttle!
I have 128k dsl connection in california .... and I just load up daum sports, and hit f5 every time that it doesn't start buffering in chunks of 15-20% like 15-28-39-66-79 ... ect. It normally takes 2 or 3 tries to get a perfect stream.
I hope this helps!
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On February 04 2009 19:12 GHOSTCLAW wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2009 19:12 lb wrote:On February 04 2009 19:08 Xstatic wrote: Lol I still don't get the rationale behind the proxy gate. Must've cost Stork some APM to pump units out of there. To trick Bisu into thinking he went 1 gate, making Bisu do the same and then overwhelming him with more units? didn't end up overwhelming, it was super super close. stork did give himself an advantage though. and then lost it when he threw away his shuttle+reaver
He didn't gain any advantage from it, really. Bisu saw his goon count, pulled back immediately. Stork got a few shots off a bit further down the road, but then Bisu got even more shots back a bit later, so it was effectively no advantage.
I don't really get why Bisu's shuttle was so far out of position... he got his robo up first (and seems to have sacrificed a few probes/goons for it), but surely he should have realized he wasn't that far ahead? I guess he though Stork was going to play defensive or something.
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On February 04 2009 19:11 fearus wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2009 19:08 Xstatic wrote: Lol I still don't get the rationale behind the proxy gate. Must've cost Stork some APM to pump units out of there. they hotkeys their gates...........
Mm I see. Deception and it doesn't cost Stork much ... lol Bisu knows Stork too well, the game still turned into a symmetrical battle of mirror buids and it all came down to micro and unit positioning, and expansion/temple break choices. Definitely one of the best PvP battles I've seen.
Why is By.Hero wearing a T-shirt? Leta looks like a killing machine in comparison.
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alright leta, here we go!
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by.hero spawns at 9 (purple) Leta lands at 6 (red)
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On February 04 2009 19:16 zer0das wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2009 19:12 GHOSTCLAW wrote:On February 04 2009 19:12 lb wrote:On February 04 2009 19:08 Xstatic wrote: Lol I still don't get the rationale behind the proxy gate. Must've cost Stork some APM to pump units out of there. To trick Bisu into thinking he went 1 gate, making Bisu do the same and then overwhelming him with more units? didn't end up overwhelming, it was super super close. stork did give himself an advantage though. and then lost it when he threw away his shuttle+reaver He didn't gain any advantage from it, really. Bisu saw his goon count, pulled back immediately. Stork got a few shots off a bit further down the road, but then Bisu got even more shots back a bit later, so it was effectively no advantage. I don't really get why Bisu's shuttle was so far out of position... he got his robo up first (and seems to have sacrificed a few probes/goons for it), but surely he should have realized he wasn't that far ahead? I guess he though Stork was going to play defensive or something.
bisu was harassing stork's probes, and forced stork to pull his probes away for 1 reaver shot, and then bisu was forced to run back home with his shuttle+reaver to defend. It came in on the backside, out of position
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alright, by.hero on the left, leta on the bottom
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looks like by.hero is going to scout in the correct direction the first time, and leta is going standard so far, with supply into rax, with no rax+gas.
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haha by.hero tricked no 12 hatch and leta didn't scouta base :D
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wow, leta only scouted the nat, and didn't see the nat hat, because by.hero went with a 9 pool. I wonder what leta was planning on doing with that.
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Leta doing some sort of variation of Sparks Terran?
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i sense an upset incoming.
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9 pool into 2 hatch lair tech, looks like Leta's going mnm in response. Leta doesn't get his scout into By.Hero's base.
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fast fast lair for by.hero, i'm going to go ahead and guess that he's going to try 2 hat muta, or possibly 2 hat lurker. Acad is already going up though, so maybe leta is going to try something like rax acad rax? >.>
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On February 04 2009 19:17 GHOSTCLAW wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2009 19:16 zer0das wrote:On February 04 2009 19:12 GHOSTCLAW wrote:On February 04 2009 19:12 lb wrote:On February 04 2009 19:08 Xstatic wrote: Lol I still don't get the rationale behind the proxy gate. Must've cost Stork some APM to pump units out of there. To trick Bisu into thinking he went 1 gate, making Bisu do the same and then overwhelming him with more units? didn't end up overwhelming, it was super super close. stork did give himself an advantage though. and then lost it when he threw away his shuttle+reaver He didn't gain any advantage from it, really. Bisu saw his goon count, pulled back immediately. Stork got a few shots off a bit further down the road, but then Bisu got even more shots back a bit later, so it was effectively no advantage. I don't really get why Bisu's shuttle was so far out of position... he got his robo up first (and seems to have sacrificed a few probes/goons for it), but surely he should have realized he wasn't that far ahead? I guess he though Stork was going to play defensive or something. bisu was harassing stork's probes, and forced stork to pull his probes away for 1 reaver shot, and then bisu was forced to run back home with his shuttle+reaver to defend. It came in on the backside, out of position
Yeah, obviously. The point is his build was basically a mirror of Stork's with a slightly faster robo, so why risk it? He had an easier drops due to spawns, but still...
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oh nm, factory. early tank push.
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first medic is already out for leta, and he puts down his first fact. if leta has too low of mnm numbers, the 2 hat muta is going to punish him. however, he already has his comsat up, and he's putting down his second rax.
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haven't seen this kind of playstyle in awhile, from both players. it's so low-econ. I love low-econ.
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1 base tech build? i have no idea what leta is trying to do, as he's putting down a starport as well. This is basically the classic fantasy build, including the vult drop if he tries it, except he dosen't have any vultures. Ebay is out, turrets are up, muta are morphing, and i getss leta is going 1 base with 2 rax into science vessels. Interesting...
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Mutas out for By.Hero, Leta starting his Science Facility. A few turrets around the terran perimeter, not much. Mutas come in and snipe a few SCVs, not much damage done.
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lol wow. 1 base right up to sci vessel. this is gonna be a fun game.
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range upgrade is finished for marines, as is stim from the super early acad, so by.hero is going to need to be careful to make sure that he dosen't lose any to the upgraded marines. first science vessel is going to be out in another half minute or so, so by.her's window is getting smaller.
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by.hero has an evo chamber, hydra den, and a third hat, and leta's having really really good mnm control. is leta even human, because I don't see mistakes. apparently mistakes are something that other people make >.>
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Lol i played 9 pool 2 hatch muta vs 2 raxx tank vessel yesterday. Let's see if by.hero can do better than me :-)
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Leta's getting punished pretty badly for his fast tech, losing turrets and rines. Lurker tech coming from By.Hero. SV out for Leta, moving out but Hero has lurkers. Lol Leta scouting for hidden expos, finds none.
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Leta can't afford to lose marines !
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by.hero is down to two muta, and he's got 4 lurkers now, and he's trying to morph more. Leta starts building a cc on the high ground to float to his nat.
by.her is going to try to run through the backdoor to get to let's nat and counter, but it's going to leave by.hero shorthanded at the front of his base.
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3 rax before expand for leta, first tank is out. by.hero has a ton of units, I think he has 4 hat and 2 base right now? not really sure though.
by.hero tries to get a flank in, but it's not good enough, as the middle of this map is too open for by.her's taste. neither player has a distinct advantage
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all those lurkers are hurt from running alongside the irradiated one.
go leta !!!
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leta has his expo up, by.hero needs to get his third gas quickly so that he can progress on his tech. dropship out for leta, and it's scouted by an ovie and a group of lings.
wow, let's dropships don't get hit, the first time, it takes about 4 scourge to take down the dropship.
by.hero tries to use a lurker to harass the nat, although ididn't see if it got any kills or not .
by.hero trying to push letas nat, but his lurkers are in a bad position, and don't get as many kilss as they should
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Epic vessel cloud coming from Leta, but that's too many lurkers ... Hero has the advantage here. HUGE FIGHT goes on, mutas get shredded, Leta loses rines. Dropship in Hero's main, gets cleaned up by lings + scourge.
Hero finally getting a third, his huge army gets irradiated but massacres quite a few rines. Massive lings out for Hero.
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Wow at that irradiated lurker helping take out some marines while unburrowed!
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by.hero has about 3 lurks and a ton of lings left, but i don't know if it's going to be enough to kill the nat. he keeps pushing leta back, and even though leta's got 3 rax (and is tossing up a fourth) his marine count is still slightly low (about 2 control groups of marines?) he's also got 3 science vessels)
finally, the tv shows by.hero expanding to the 1 nat or main, which should allow himt o get his third gas. Hive tech is morphing, but i think it's going to be too late for by.hero, even if leta dosen't scout it
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This is a beautiful z vs. bio. Both these players better advance from this group.
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SICK REFINERY SNIPE BY HERO! Loses a grand total of 1 ling!
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On February 04 2009 19:33 Xstatic wrote: SICK REFINERY SNIPE BY HERO! Loses a grand total of 1 ling!
lol??
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hive tech is finished, defiler mound needs to be started, but it's like by.hero left the drone there and forgot about it. leta just scouted the third from the fpvod, and it looks like he sent a dropship out to go try and drop either the main or the expansion (expansion seems more likely, as it's moving up the right edge of the map)
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alright, drop finishes, by.hero is left to react with a control of lings, but he loses like 5 drones in the process. a really good trade for leta to be able to make.
defiler mound is now out, i hope to heck it's researching consume, and it appears that right now by.hero is going to live until he makes it to hive tech.
his third might go down though, as leta's pushing it with a control of mnm. by.hero pushes the nat with a bunch of lurkers, but i don't know what he's planning on accomplishing. dark swarm goes up over the lurkers, but he's not going to be able to mail all of the tanks and such that's underneath the swarm
3 dswarms over leta's nat, and now by.hero has no units to be able to deal with it. how sad.
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Leta showing some really nice harass here, in the purest sense of the word: sniping a few drones and pushing Hero's army back.
HERO MOVING INTO LETA'S NAT, TAKES OUT A TON OF UNITS WITH SWARM, LETA HOLDS IT OFF AND HARASSES HERO'S THIRD! LETA SURVIVES AND MOVES OUT WITH HIS ARMY TO ATTACK HERO!
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That 2 o'clock expansion would be dead be now if he hadn't somehow pulled his marines back : /
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i wanna see some mass firebats to counter attack these swarms!
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3 drones die randomly in the middle of the map. This has turned into a slightly more standard game after a really super low ecn beginning.
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hero really hates that refinery
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On February 04 2009 19:36 rushz0rz wrote: i wanna see some mass firebats to counter attack these swarms!
I don't think he has enough gas to, his refinery keeps dying becuase by.hero keeps being able to take i tout
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hahahah random tank dies by leta's nat to 2 lings.
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alright, and leta is pushing the third again that by.hero has, but leta finally takes out the third that by.hero had.
leta has enough fbat and mnm to take out any unsupported lurker/ling force, and by.hero now really needs to find a way to get a third gas.
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On February 04 2009 19:33 rushz0rz wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2009 19:33 Xstatic wrote: SICK REFINERY SNIPE BY HERO! Loses a grand total of 1 ling! lol??
I think it was just 1 ling. Speedlings moved in and took down the refinery and then ran off. Pretty useful, cuts into Leta's gas eco and prevents too big of a vessel cloud.
Leta finally takes down Hero's third and expands. This is looking bad for Hero.
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Dude this game is sick. Can't believe Leta is turning it around
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lol, it looks like by.hero has about 12 supply worth of drones just sitting where his expansion used to be. also, leta has his own expansion up at about 4ish, and i don't think that by.hero has scouted it yet.
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Wow...the commentators sure love Leta. It's okay cuz i love him too. (no gay)
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I think that leta's got this, as now by.hero is 1basing, and leta is 2 basing. leta's going to push the backdoor with about 2 control of mnmnf, and easily crushes by.hero's only mining base.
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hero gg's!
oh my god that game was intense
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Wow Leta's Science facility is red health, 40 health left. Might lose if he's not careful, but he's using the eraser and laying a pounding on Hero's nat - GG! Sick comeback from Leta!!
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Hm i gotta say by.hero put up a really good fight, I expected him to get slaughtered:>
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On February 04 2009 19:40 Mista wrote: leta just way too good
so true. GG
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I liked By.Hero's play there. Pretty sick imo. That map looks hard as FUCK standard TvZ though!!!! No wonder everyone goes Mech
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Hero had that game, when he pushed leta back to his nat and had zerglings running in he shoulda pushed woulda GGed
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that was really nice play by by.hero, especially with the agressive muta, and then the lurker followup. I think that by.hero lost his advantage when he pushed badly into leta's nat, and lost a ton of his lurkers. He also let by.hero's science vessel count get fairly high, but given how leta's been playng, i'm not sure what by.hero could have done about that. Is that nevergg taking photos of leta?
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how on earth did leta win that game on basically 1 gas all game insane
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even thou leta won, by hero showed that he is pretty awesome
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Those 2 rushing lanes sure make it hard to defend
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Leta is my favorite Terran to watch TvZ, between his 2 port wraith build and very solid bio. I hope by.hero still makes it through fantasy and Tester!
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On February 04 2009 19:40 disciple wrote: this hero guy is actually good
just...not good enough to beat leta -_-;;
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woot 2/2 LB
up next Beauty and The BeSt
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Close game and good one. Found it strange that he dident went for mech but im glad he dident.
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Nice game, so happy I decided to watch these games!
Btw, were hero's lings crack upgraded? They looked kind of slow to be honest. =/
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also WHY didn't hero take the 3rd that is close to him? he had leta defending for sooo long why not expand?
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Finally a top zerg lose on this map. Although i think S class zergs won't. This map must be jaedong's paradise.
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Leta had hero soundly beat when they showed the upgrades >.<
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On February 04 2009 19:45 Baddieko wrote: Finally a top zerg lose on this map. Although i think S class zergs won't. This map must be jaedong's paradise. LOL WUT?
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On February 04 2009 19:42 o3.power91 wrote: woot 2/2 LB
up next Beauty and The BeSt
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0/2
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What the heck was that some kind of Batoo Sudoku I didn't understand a thing of?!
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I am still trying to calm myself down from watching that game. For most of that game everything could have swung completely towards one player at any given moment. So intense... glad Leta came out with the win
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Those advertisements sure are the pinnacle of nerdiness
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On February 04 2009 19:47 3nickma wrote: What the heck was that some kind of Batoo Sudoku I didn't understand a thing of?! Batoo is an online Go thing iirc.
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What would I give for these .rep files from these games ...
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On February 04 2009 19:49 Xstatic wrote: What would I give for these .rep files from these games ...
U need substantial korean won to bribe them.
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On February 04 2009 19:49 Crunchums wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2009 19:47 3nickma wrote: What the heck was that some kind of Batoo Sudoku I didn't understand a thing of?! Batoo is an online Go thing iirc.
yep yep. That's what the commericals were for anyway. I think that they were showing some sort of go tutorial or something.
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On February 04 2009 19:50 Baddieko wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2009 19:49 Xstatic wrote: What would I give for these .rep files from these games ... U need substantial korean won to bribe them.
or just have friends in really really high places. I'm guessing that if you don't live in korea, then you would need to be really really good at sc to make those friends xD
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BeSt better win this after your crappy performance in PL by losing to great.
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On February 04 2009 19:52 GHOSTCLAW wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2009 19:50 Baddieko wrote:On February 04 2009 19:49 Xstatic wrote: What would I give for these .rep files from these games ... U need substantial korean won to bribe them. or just have friends in really really high places. I'm guessing that if you don't live in korea, then you would need to be really really good at sc to make those friends xD
haha. Even the fellow progamers and the players in the rep dont get the .rep. Kespa don't allow to release it
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I think short of being a member of kespa , commentator or batoo shareholder there is 0% chance of getting reps.
t.t
I hope when broodwar dies, they release the thousands of replays to the public. He would be amazing.
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On February 04 2009 19:51 GHOSTCLAW wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2009 19:49 Crunchums wrote:On February 04 2009 19:47 3nickma wrote: What the heck was that some kind of Batoo Sudoku I didn't understand a thing of?! Batoo is an online Go thing iirc. yep yep. That's what the commericals were for anyway. I think that they were showing some sort of go tutorial or something.
Okay thanks you two. Got all confused when they showed some StarCraft with it too? Too weird for me it seems so I'll just stick to Chess instead
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On February 04 2009 19:54 3nickma wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2009 19:51 GHOSTCLAW wrote:On February 04 2009 19:49 Crunchums wrote:On February 04 2009 19:47 3nickma wrote: What the heck was that some kind of Batoo Sudoku I didn't understand a thing of?! Batoo is an online Go thing iirc. yep yep. That's what the commericals were for anyway. I think that they were showing some sort of go tutorial or something. Okay thanks you two. Got all confused when they showed some StarCraft with it too? Too weird for me it seems so I'll just stick to Chess instead
It's actually a really really cool game. It's one of the oldest games still around, and the same game has never been played twice (or so they say). It's really deep, and being good at it is really really hard. The skill curve is huge -_-;;
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this is kinda late but i was rewatching the leta vs savior pl match cuz i didnt know savior was the only zerg win against leta until the commentator said it. thats awesome =D but i did want by.hero but leta is fine. leta is still pretty beast =x
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On February 04 2009 19:56 GHOSTCLAW wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2009 19:54 3nickma wrote:On February 04 2009 19:51 GHOSTCLAW wrote:On February 04 2009 19:49 Crunchums wrote:On February 04 2009 19:47 3nickma wrote: What the heck was that some kind of Batoo Sudoku I didn't understand a thing of?! Batoo is an online Go thing iirc. yep yep. That's what the commericals were for anyway. I think that they were showing some sort of go tutorial or something. Okay thanks you two. Got all confused when they showed some StarCraft with it too? Too weird for me it seems so I'll just stick to Chess instead It's actually a really really cool game. It's one of the oldest games still around, and the same game has never been played twice (or so they say). It's really deep, and being good at it is really really hard. The skill curve is huge -_-;; And there is no computer program, which is better then best humans, unlike chess
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and gdamn the osl girls are freaking busted this time. like damn ;d
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On February 04 2009 19:58 johanes wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2009 19:56 GHOSTCLAW wrote:On February 04 2009 19:54 3nickma wrote:On February 04 2009 19:51 GHOSTCLAW wrote:On February 04 2009 19:49 Crunchums wrote:On February 04 2009 19:47 3nickma wrote: What the heck was that some kind of Batoo Sudoku I didn't understand a thing of?! Batoo is an online Go thing iirc. yep yep. That's what the commericals were for anyway. I think that they were showing some sort of go tutorial or something. Okay thanks you two. Got all confused when they showed some StarCraft with it too? Too weird for me it seems so I'll just stick to Chess instead It's actually a really really cool game. It's one of the oldest games still around, and the same game has never been played twice (or so they say). It's really deep, and being good at it is really really hard. The skill curve is huge -_-;; And there is no computer program, which is better then best humans, unlike chess
ehh computers are getting to the point where they can. I read a news piece about how they're getting close, but they haven't been able to consistantly.
the link to the news story about the human losing:
http://www.usgo.org/index.php?#_id=4602
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alright, and here we go again, with best in purple at the top left, and the other guy in green at the bottom right xD
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On February 04 2009 19:54 3nickma wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2009 19:51 GHOSTCLAW wrote:On February 04 2009 19:49 Crunchums wrote:On February 04 2009 19:47 3nickma wrote: What the heck was that some kind of Batoo Sudoku I didn't understand a thing of?! Batoo is an online Go thing iirc. yep yep. That's what the commericals were for anyway. I think that they were showing some sort of go tutorial or something. Okay thanks you two. Got all confused when they showed some StarCraft with it too? Too weird for me it seems so I'll just stick to Chess instead
I'd say Chess is definitely more entertaining for modern times. Go is 100% strategy. The most strategic game played, and quite boring unless you have ridiculous patience.
Edit: Anyway, Go Hwasin.I root for him because it seems he always get picked on by Bisu. And he has to face Jaedong/FBH/Flash tomorrow. So hopefully he does well in the OSL.
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On February 04 2009 19:59 NahLGaE wrote: and gdamn the osl girls are freaking busted this time. like damn ;d
they will soon upgrade to racing girl quality
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On February 04 2009 19:59 NahLGaE wrote: and gdamn the osl girls are freaking busted this time. like damn ;d
lol qft. It almost looks like they're plastic.
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wow, and best 13 nex if i can count correctly, while hwasin chooses to get a really really fast cc (is that a 14 cc from hwasin? >.>
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This is gonna be awesome. 13nex vs 14cc
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yes, it is. both of them go identical macro builds, with 13 nex and 13 cc. >.>
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I have never seen this. 12 nex vs 13 cc.
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On February 04 2009 20:03 GHOSTCLAW wrote: wow, and best 13 nex if i can count correctly, while hwasin chooses to get a really really fast cc (is that a 14 cc from hwasin? >.>
yeah, 14 cc
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and best gets a manner pylon in, trapping two scv's. cool. after a 14 cc though, so it shouldn't matter that much. best cancels it as well.
standard openers after that, with 2 gate goon from best, and something that's going to end up looking kind of like an fd from hwasin.
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quite a risky build from hwashin, considering that it would've been auto-loss if best had done anything other than 13 nexus. but hwashin called him on it.
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2 gate goon with goon range, second gas goes up for best, and a robo as well.
second fact being added for hwasin, and he finally stops producing marines after getting 5. he probably needs those to fend off the first 4 ranged goons though, so that's a pretty good call.
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On February 04 2009 20:05 NeVeR wrote: quite a risky build from hwashin, considering that it would've been auto-loss if best had done anything other than 13 nexus. but hwashin called him on it.
Hwasin knows Best is not the best on controlling small army.
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BeSt going for 2 base arbiter play, standard for him
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HAHA 2 base arbs! Best's favorite move!
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WOW. Best? Fast Arbitors? Who would have thought... he does this like every game PvT lol. Why even hide it?
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wtf ive never seen this strat from a protoss before.
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On February 04 2009 20:05 NeVeR wrote: quite a risky build from hwashin, considering that it would've been auto-loss if best had done anything other than 13 nexus. but hwashin called him on it.
hwasin might have just decided that letting best macro away with a 13 nex was too great of a risk anyway, so he might as well 13 cc and hope that he could get away with it.
Although you're right, best really should have gone like 2 gate goon and owned him. There must be something about this map that makes this really viable >.>
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I think BeSt is gonna lose...
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calculated risk from hwasin..
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2 base arbs from best, as as been pointed out. 4 fact, 2 with shop for hwasin, and comsats are already up. 4 tanks for hwasin, as well as a gol, so he's ready for harass. best looks like he wants to get his backdoor third, but he picked up a probe that aready had a mineral. oops.
4 fact push to defeat a fast third or to try to defeat 2 base arb/carrier. interesting. xellos used to do this if i remember correctly
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hwasin cant lose any tanks!
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Hwasin has to move,cmon.......
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hahahahah and then he proceeds to lose them all.
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Really nice timing by Hwasin with the push.
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hwasin sieges way too late, but best was careless and lost all of his goons. Best is going to fight with zeals only, and try to get all of the vults.
arb is out, but it's not going to be able to do enough, becuase hwasin already got his comsat. things look bad for best, as his nex is already getting hammered.
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Hwasin with super strong timing attack :O
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haha eat that best... how i hate skt tosses 8[
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hwasin lost all of his tanks, but it looks like it's not going to matter. best just lost his nat nex, and from there that's pretty much game. best can't really do anything to make himself come back.
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i dunno what BeSt was thinking by taking SUCH a late third.
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Xellos' 4-fact timing push, what a time to see it again.
Only, it should be Xellos in the OSL, damnit.
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go hwasin, its a lb i am willing to loose.!
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wow BeSt you're losing it
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Damm and i wanted to vote for Hwasin in this one, but after all voice of Aiur convinced me :/
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BeSt gonna go for a desperate recall. This is pretty much Hwasin's game.
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my current guess is that hwasin scouted the fast third at the back of best's base, and there's two responses that T uses for that- one is to do some sort of timing push that is able to hit while protoss is weak (like a 4 fact 2 base fast push) and the other one is dropships. I guess hwasin liked the former and not the latter, and it seems to be working for him.
mines are planted outside of best's gates, best is going to try to recall looks like in hwasin's base.
i this is going to need to do basically game ending damage if this is going to do enough, but it dosen't look like it, as hwasin started to pull his units back a long time ago.
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Haha all the zealots got stuck at the mine, dmging them all. GG from BeSt, Great game from hwasin.
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2 games lost today for BeSt.
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On February 04 2009 20:14 dragoonkf wrote: Haha all the zealots got stuck at the mine, dmging them all. GG from BeSt, Great game from hwasin.
indicates how bad the second half of the game went for best. Not so good.
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It was about time Hwasin got a proper TvP win.Good job
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What the hell best? why do u suck now? take some anti suck pills and STOP SUCKING
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Great, now Hwasin decides to win when I don't pick him:-(
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pimp mine and vult ^^
really sexy
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Hwasin hit the timing window given to him by Best's arbiter rush perfectly.
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lolz going better LB... 0/3, i just hope at least luxury goes and win :D
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It's nice to see someone punishing Best for this gay fast arbiter. Best needs to stop being so predictable.
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Hwain's like... Best you picked me for my sorry TvP right? and your powerful PvT right? yeh.... dis wssup...TRY AGAIN.
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That game was hilarious. Best takes out all of Hwasin's tanks, manages to somehow lose all his goons anyways, then gets caught with slow zealots against masses of vultures, then bleeds a slow painful death. Can't say I'm surprised.
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yay... now only Jaedong needs to win and i'm 4/4 :p
But sad for by.hero :/, close shit.
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COME ON LUXURY!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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This next game should be good. and hopefully kind of short. not too short, but kind of short. It's time for bed xD Thankfully we didn't have any tvt's in this set
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Jaedong better get his rape-game on.
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damn yy is so behind lol >>
stupid best =(
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after seeing Jaedong's absolute rape in last nights 2 ZvZ's, I have little faith in Luxury's victory.
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did best actually take his third before hwasin pushed? it seemed like he took it once he realized he was going to lose his natural. what's interesting is that i don't think that timing would have worked for hwasin if the game opened up standardly, i.e. one gate nexus vs 1 fact command; but it seems like the 14 cc vs 13 nexus opening made it work.
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yeah now i hope jaedong wins and i'm 3/4.. stupid BeSt lost
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Best 3-7 in his last 10 matches. You can do fucking better than this!
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JIN YOUNG SOO FIGHTING OMG
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as commentators said, it was really stupid for best to just try to reduce tanks with goons on that push when he was building lots. if he was building more goons at the time it would be a good move and make sense but when lots are coming he shouldve freaking waited --a
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On February 04 2009 20:20 NeVeR wrote: did best actually take his third before hwasin pushed? it seemed like he took it once he realized he was going to lose his natural. what's interesting is that i don't think that timing would have worked for hwasin if the game opened up standardly, i.e. one gate nexus vs 1 fact command; but it seems like the 14 cc vs 13 nexus opening made it work. his scv completely scouted best's nex into 2gate range goon. i'm sure if he had seen something else he wouldn't have gone for that specific timing push.
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even though this will be a quick game, Best ZvZ'r vs the 2nd Best ZvZr
shits going to be intense (although jaedong will probably win..)
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and i think best was going to take his 3rd but because of the timing push he had to keep all his gates running rather than stockpiling 400 or else he would have gotten ran over even sooner.
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Nice all on the right side of the OP won there games and Jaedong is placed on the right side too so go go JD!
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On February 04 2009 20:23 LosingID8 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2009 20:20 NeVeR wrote: did best actually take his third before hwasin pushed? it seemed like he took it once he realized he was going to lose his natural. what's interesting is that i don't think that timing would have worked for hwasin if the game opened up standardly, i.e. one gate nexus vs 1 fact command; but it seems like the 14 cc vs 13 nexus opening made it work. his scv completely scouted best's nex into 2gate range goon. i'm sure if he had seen something else he wouldn't have gone for that specific timing push.
obviously he knew best was 13 nexus. he even predicted it by going 14 cc. i'm talking about when best took the island in his main.
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Are these new jackets for Lecaf now that they changed their name??? if so,pretty cool
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On February 04 2009 20:23 NahLGaE wrote: as commentators said, it was really stupid for best to just try to reduce tanks with goons on that push when he was building lots. if he was building more goons at the time it would be a good move and make sense but when lots are coming he shouldve freaking waited --a
yeah, he could've just waited for the zealots and made an attempt to break the push then. very stupid mistake by BeSt.
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and nice sig @ losingid but its its not happening. young soo is done!!! he's a has been!!! besides that last match he's been pretty terrible =P the force of bonjwas = savior in 2009 XD
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On February 04 2009 20:23 NahLGaE wrote: as commentators said, it was really stupid for best to just try to reduce tanks with goons on that push when he was building lots. if he was building more goons at the time it would be a good move and make sense but when lots are coming he shouldve freaking waited --a
It seemed that late tank seige was a good move by Hwasin, and yeah why he had decided to train zealots before the battle and then tried to kill tanks during the battle leaving enough number of vuls plus reinforced ones to rape his next wave of Z
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What a freak stats both has las 10vz 90% v 80%.
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hmm is that a mala beads bracelet for JD? pretty cool
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I like the old lecaf jackets better. ;(
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On February 04 2009 20:26 rushz0rz wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2009 20:23 NahLGaE wrote: as commentators said, it was really stupid for best to just try to reduce tanks with goons on that push when he was building lots. if he was building more goons at the time it would be a good move and make sense but when lots are coming he shouldve freaking waited --a yeah, he could've just waited for the zealots and made an attempt to break the push then. very stupid mistake by BeSt.
it almost feels like he just got impatient, and then figured that his goon count would be high enough to 1a over whatever hwasin could throw at him.
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alright, here we go with jd,and lux xD
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On February 04 2009 20:26 NahLGaE wrote: and nice sig @ losingid but its its not happening. young soo is done!!! he's a has been!!! besides that last match he's been pretty terrible =P the force of bonjwas = savior in 2009 XD haha yeah i've had this sig for the past couple weeks now. but i wouldn't say that he's a "has been"? wtf lol. he raped his Ro36 group with really really strong play.
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On February 04 2009 20:28 benjammin wrote: hmm is that a mala beads bracelet for JD? pretty cool yes he is Buddhist
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god what a badass fucking intro jesus christ
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The intro never gets old.
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lux in red, jd in white, jd at bottom, lux at top
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you guys like the intro? I think intro for both MSL and OSL this season is terrible >.>
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Just a random question, is 4-pool feasible in ZvZ at all on 2 player maps? I've never seen anything faster than 9 pool-speed in ZvZ. Just wondering.
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On February 04 2009 20:29 MrHoon wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2009 20:28 benjammin wrote: hmm is that a mala beads bracelet for JD? pretty cool yes he is Buddhist
cool, i was given some when i was doing some traveling, but they are from bodhi seed i think and no offense to any buddhists or anything but they REEK, i have to leave them in a bag inside a drawer so they don't stink up the place
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9 pool for lux into extractor, 12 pool and extractor for jd.
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On February 04 2009 20:32 baubo wrote: Just a random question, is 4-pool feasible in ZvZ at all on 2 player maps? I've never seen anything faster than 9 pool-speed in ZvZ. Just wondering.
super cheesy, but yes, it's feasible. no one really does it though.
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On February 04 2009 20:29 LosingID8 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2009 20:26 NahLGaE wrote: and nice sig @ losingid but its its not happening. young soo is done!!! he's a has been!!! besides that last match he's been pretty terrible =P the force of bonjwas = savior in 2009 XD haha yeah i've had this sig for the past couple weeks now. but i wouldn't say that he's a "has been"? wtf lol. he raped his Ro36 group with really really strong play.
lol yeah 'has been' is kind of an exaggeration =P but he has been slumping pretty badly lately. i used to be a fan of his but eh. i hope he gets out of his slump with this i guess
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2nd hatch for JD, lair for Lux
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hat at nat after 12 pool, 4 lings for jd are going to come just about on time to be able to block the ramp. perfect timing, and he dosen't even lose a ling
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That Drone-block by JD is just SICK
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On February 04 2009 20:30 MrHoon wrote: you guys like the intro? I think intro for both MSL and OSL this season is terrible >.>
yeah pretty bad i'd have to agree. msl is better than osl this season imo which is rare. but osl got better since the teaser ro36 at least =\
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spire is already down for lux, jd is forced to fight at his own ramp with bad position, and gets eaten by slightly smaller ling numbers. JD hasn't gotten his second gas yet, he's been spnding his larve on lings to make sure that he can keep his second hat.
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On February 04 2009 20:29 MrHoon wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2009 20:28 benjammin wrote: hmm is that a mala beads bracelet for JD? pretty cool yes he is Buddhist
doesn't flash have them too
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spire finishes for jd, lux gets 1 drone, and jd just started his muta when lux hatches his.
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On February 04 2009 20:35 GTR-2-Go wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2009 20:29 MrHoon wrote:On February 04 2009 20:28 benjammin wrote: hmm is that a mala beads bracelet for JD? pretty cool yes he is Buddhist doesn't flash have them too
YellOw wears them and he's Christian.
Asian thing I guess.
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Looks like JD is getting raped
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lux sneaks in two more lings, forces jd to stack his drones yet again. jd's got a ton of scourge, but he dosen't really have enough muta. 1 drone down, 2 drones down for jdand now jd has no muta to fight off lux's muta. this is gonna be tough.
lux has the good micro necessary to keep most of his muta alive vs ling scourge, and jd runs in trying desperatly to get the necessary drone kills to pull the game even
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scourge fight until the end,yeeah...
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3 drones for lux, 6 drones for jd, but lux still has more muta i think if he didn't lose them. this is a close game, but I think that jd's pulling ahead.
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Jaedong with a big lead !! Damn intense game.
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hahaha this is almost parallel to JD vs. ZerO last night.
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On February 04 2009 20:37 Scorch wrote:Looks like JD is getting raped
What :O ?
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both of them have scourge just hovering over eachother's larvae, killing whatever comes out of them. JD is just producing lings and scourge, becuase they know the sourge ae good enough
lux gg's
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hahah,JD delivers once again. gg!
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how the hell does he do it?
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gg
somehow comes back from that
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On February 04 2009 20:39 dragoonkf wrote:What :O ?
well it was true before jd ran in and managed to pic off just enough drones so that lux had fewer than jd.
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Jaedong has epic defense and gets away with fewer units and more drones.
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all the players on the right won !
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Huh? What kind of advantage did Jaedong have? He had only a couple of drones himself and no air force to speak of. I'm confused.
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4/4 tahnks for all the livereports
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Jaedongs ZvZ is the definition of awesome... I cannot believe how he just outplayed lux.
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JD is such a beast. You think he has a slight chance of losing, and then BAM. He has more drones, lings, scourge, and Muta.
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Well that 2nd hathery cost him the game
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GG
are there any more matches after lux vs jaedong? i''m just back from work though..
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Jaedong is sooo good. =) 3/4 LB ;O
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On February 04 2009 20:40 rushz0rz wrote: all the players on the right won ! wow thats right haha
so weird
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0/4 and i thought that few of my picks were safe but seems like not :D
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On February 04 2009 20:40 Scorch wrote: Huh? What kind of advantage did Jaedong have? He had only a couple of drones himself and no air force to speak of. I'm confused. he had more drones after picking some of Lux's with lings, and 2 hatch/gas
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On February 04 2009 20:40 raiame wrote: Jaedong has epic defense and gets away with fewer units and more drones.
12 pool tends to allow you to do that, and then he also managed to keep his extra hat after the 12 pool. lux's first muta didn't do enough damange to get the win, and it left jd able to come in and catch up in tech and use his econ/larvae advantage.
jd is a zvz master
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On February 04 2009 20:41 Too_MuchZerg wrote: 0/4 and i thought that few of my picks were safe but seems like not :D Someone's not in shape!
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good games, especially the first one
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On February 04 2009 20:40 Scorch wrote: Huh? What kind of advantage did Jaedong have? He had only a couple of drones himself and no air force to speak of. I'm confused.
He had his nat, meaning he had 2 hatches. His comeback was due to the fact that he could pump scourges and drones.
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On February 04 2009 20:40 kaleidoscope wrote: GG
are there any more matches after lux vs jaedong? i''m just back from work though..
This was the last one.
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On February 04 2009 20:32 GHOSTCLAW wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2009 20:32 baubo wrote: Just a random question, is 4-pool feasible in ZvZ at all on 2 player maps? I've never seen anything faster than 9 pool-speed in ZvZ. Just wondering. super cheesy, but yes, it's feasible. no one really does it though.
I see. This came across my mind when they were displaying their ZvZ records, and thought that perhaps lesser players really should just cheese... and then realized that no one actually does it.
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On February 04 2009 20:41 MrHoon wrote:wow thats right haha so weird
the real question is if the person who wrote the op got 0/4 or 4/4 on liquibet xD
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On February 04 2009 20:41 MrHoon wrote:wow thats right haha so weird Leta was on the left
Edit: oh i thought you were talking about the booths XD 3/4 on the right side won
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wow that was unexpectedly a great zvz. lux really couldve won it with a bit more concentration picking off scourges with muta but jd kept the pressure on well and kept his eco adv. really gg
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On February 04 2009 20:42 Malinor wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2009 20:40 kaleidoscope wrote: GG
are there any more matches after lux vs jaedong? i''m just back from work though.. This was the last one.
aww.. okay, i only see the last part when Lux said GG..
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I thought Jaedong was going to die to the flock of muta Luxury had but his scourge took care of them. 1 more win to 80%?
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Lux had such bad muta micro in that games -_-. He had it with like 4-5 mutas hovering over JD's drone line and let them all get hit by scourge. I know it's hard to micro them away from scourge but damn, you're a progamer! Show some better micro there
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On February 04 2009 20:41 MrHoon wrote:wow thats right haha so weird I see what you did thar
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On February 04 2009 20:41 Too_MuchZerg wrote: 0/4 and i thought that few of my picks were safe but seems like not :D
Jaedong's nearly 80% vs Z and you decide to pick his opponent?
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4/4 good work JD and hwasin
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Stork shouldn't have picked Bisu..now he has an uphill task against Yellow and July ._.
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OT: damm i can't wait for SKT vs Samsung games to be up, and i dont wanna spoil them for myself by watching from wfbrood. Someone help pls?<3
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On February 04 2009 20:42 baubo wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2009 20:32 GHOSTCLAW wrote:On February 04 2009 20:32 baubo wrote: Just a random question, is 4-pool feasible in ZvZ at all on 2 player maps? I've never seen anything faster than 9 pool-speed in ZvZ. Just wondering. super cheesy, but yes, it's feasible. no one really does it though. I see. This came across my mind when they were displaying their ZvZ records, and thought that perhaps lesser players really should just cheese... and then realized that no one actually does it.
I mean, the real problem is that you have 6 lings vs at that point probably 9 drones. the drones have 40 hp each, and your zerglings only have 25. the damage per second of the zergling is double, but the drones can cheat and stack. as you can probably figure out, it's just tough for only 6 lings to do enough damage to be able to kill off the other player.
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3/4 only Hwasin was an upset, imo.
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On February 04 2009 20:43 NovaTheFeared wrote: I thought Jaedong was going to die to the flock of muta Luxury had but his scourge took care of them. 1 more win to 80%?
I thought that he already broke 80% in zvz. I could be wrong though
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What jaedong has done his last two games on chup, is prove that a single muta + scourge is enough to deflect/beat 5 muta while a great eco kicks in.
Its impossible to scourge micro with ur back to a wall or when the scourge come from 3 sides, jaedongs scourging is the reason he is pulling off zvz unit compositions of 4 years ago!
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3/4 but oh so happy that Best lost
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On February 04 2009 20:42 baubo wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2009 20:32 GHOSTCLAW wrote:On February 04 2009 20:32 baubo wrote: Just a random question, is 4-pool feasible in ZvZ at all on 2 player maps? I've never seen anything faster than 9 pool-speed in ZvZ. Just wondering. super cheesy, but yes, it's feasible. no one really does it though. I see. This came across my mind when they were displaying their ZvZ records, and thought that perhaps lesser players really should just cheese... and then realized that no one actually does it. a lot of crappier zergs probably do this in the PCBang qualifier leagues -_-;
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On February 04 2009 20:45 GHOSTCLAW wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2009 20:43 NovaTheFeared wrote: I thought Jaedong was going to die to the flock of muta Luxury had but his scourge took care of them. 1 more win to 80%? I thought that he already broke 80% in zvz. I could be wrong though
He did, he was 48-12 before losing to Zero. Since then he's beaten Zero, GGPlay, and Lux so 51-13. One more win to break 80% again.
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L E E J A E D O N G ! <3
#1 > #2
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so glad for '09, have seen already around 20 games of jaedong in '09 and its been a lil over a month.
Side note, its kind of amazing like some ppl have said. Recently in Jaedongs ZvZ (in a lot of them as a matter of fact), you think he is losing then the camera shifts to his opponents base, then on his. Its only then you see how much of a lead he's in.
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On February 04 2009 20:42 baubo wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2009 20:32 GHOSTCLAW wrote:On February 04 2009 20:32 baubo wrote: Just a random question, is 4-pool feasible in ZvZ at all on 2 player maps? I've never seen anything faster than 9 pool-speed in ZvZ. Just wondering. super cheesy, but yes, it's feasible. no one really does it though. I see. This came across my mind when they were displaying their ZvZ records, and thought that perhaps lesser players really should just cheese... and then realized that no one actually does it.
I've seen a 4-pool used in ZvZ before. I think it was a game with July in it. Don't remember the map.
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On February 04 2009 20:43 NahLGaE wrote: wow that was unexpectedly a great zvz. lux really couldve won it with a bit more concentration picking off scourges with muta but jd kept the pressure on well and kept his eco adv. really gg
you should see JD vs. ZerO on this map from Winner's League. Similar, but much more intense.
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On February 04 2009 20:49 3nickma wrote:L E E J A E D O N G ! <3 #1 > #2
for sure! :>
also:
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On February 04 2009 20:52 NeVeR wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2009 20:42 baubo wrote:On February 04 2009 20:32 GHOSTCLAW wrote:On February 04 2009 20:32 baubo wrote: Just a random question, is 4-pool feasible in ZvZ at all on 2 player maps? I've never seen anything faster than 9 pool-speed in ZvZ. Just wondering. super cheesy, but yes, it's feasible. no one really does it though. I see. This came across my mind when they were displaying their ZvZ records, and thought that perhaps lesser players really should just cheese... and then realized that no one actually does it. I've seen a 4-pool used in ZvZ before. I think it was a game with July in it. Don't remember the map.
4pool isn't used because 9pool gets lings right in time to counter the 4pool. Considering 9pool is the most popular build 4pool is abit of a risky idea.
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On February 04 2009 20:44 Itachii wrote: OT: damm i can't wait for SKT vs Samsung games to be up, and i dont wanna spoil them for myself by watching from wfbrood. Someone help pls?<3
Game 1 from Samsung vs SKT is http://www.wfbrood.com/movie/spl2009/movie_35995.html To watch the following game, just increment the last number in the URL by 1. I.e. game 2's URL will end with 35996.html. Watch and repeat! This way you can watch all the games without having to look at the main page, thus avoiding spoilers.
Back on topic : JD went away wih that build again. His defense is just amazing. I wonder if he could use this build on anoher map, though. The lings arrive just in time to defend the ramp. So on a smaller map, I guess his drones would get raped. Not that he could not come up with some new fancy build anyway...
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On February 04 2009 20:53 Jaeden wrote:for sure! :> also:
LOL yeah that picture is just epic! Always worh seeing one more time
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WTF is happening with Best ???
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Finally his macro is not enough anymore to win him a game...
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Today is a bad day for Best. Holy shit, what a bad day.
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tune in for Best's comeback next week y'all!
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Stork[gm] < Bisu AHAHAHA YES BISU WINNN :D
by.hero < Leta well..duh?
BeSt[HyO] < Hwasin Best is failing hard for some reason
Luxury < Jaedong ..duh
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Damn, seems like I missed some good games last night. I will definitely check out all the VODs.
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On February 04 2009 20:56 Uraeus wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2009 20:44 Itachii wrote: OT: damm i can't wait for SKT vs Samsung games to be up, and i dont wanna spoil them for myself by watching from wfbrood. Someone help pls?<3 Game 1 from Samsung vs SKT is http://www.wfbrood.com/movie/spl2009/movie_35995.htmlTo watch the following game, just increment the last number in the URL by 1. I.e. game 2's URL will end with 35996.html. Watch and repeat! This way you can watch all the games without having to look at the main page, thus avoiding spoilers. man i always loved french people, but now i do even more.Thanks<3, never noticed that +1 thing number.
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no Stork
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omg jaedong have my babies
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yay Bisu. you can lose all the winner's league games you want as long as you win this OSL!
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GUESS WHO HAS SLOW HANDS?
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Ok Bisu you beat Stork so I forgive you for losing to Jangbi for now.
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Jesus, so bisu is actually the APM bitch around ? Did you get a shot of JD's post match stats ? I mean no other toss is even close to the 400 mark
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On February 05 2009 01:23 disciple wrote: Jesus, so bisu is actually the APM bitch around ? Did you get a shot of JD's post match stats ? I mean no other toss is even close to the 400 mark
There is another top toss same APM with bisu, that is jangbi and kal is pretty near bisu too. High apm always good in PvZ. In PVT and PvP dont matter. Best and stork have the lowest apm.
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Stork actually killed more units than Bisu but produced less. It shows he come on top of battles but lose out on econ. His expanding decision is bad.
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Bisu's apm is fucking ridiculous.
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anyone know where i can watch vod's of these games?
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Korea (South)1201 Posts
On February 05 2009 02:03 Baddieko wrote: Stork actually killed more units than Bisu but produced less. It shows he come on top of battles but lose out on econ. His expanding decision is bad.
no. 2nd row is # of kills.
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Like.
Bisu produced more units than Stork
Killed more units than Stork
Lost less units than Stork
Mined a significantly larger amount of minerals than Stork
Mined an insignificantly less amount of gas than Stork
His lowest apm point was higher than Stork's average apm. His average apm was higher than Stork's apm peak.
What the fuck.
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ya, their apm stats make me feel like a retard tho
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United States10328 Posts
On February 04 2009 18:18 rushz0rz wrote:Results + Show Spoiler +Stork[gm] < Bisu by.hero < Leta BeSt[HyO] < Hwasin Luxury < Jaedong
right side imba
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On February 05 2009 02:47 koreasilver wrote: Like.
Bisu produced more units than Stork
Killed more units than Stork
Lost less units than Stork
Mined a significantly larger amount of minerals than Stork
Mined an insignificantly less amount of gas than Stork
His lowest apm point was higher than Stork's average apm. His average apm was higher than Stork's apm peak.
What the fuck.
rofl
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What happened to best? he is in a big loosing streak for a while now... He used to own any terran player, was great in PvP and decent in PvZ. Now he is playing like a mediocore progamer at best!
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On February 05 2009 01:16 MrHoon wrote:GUESS WHO HAS SLOW HANDS?
Nice. Do you have these summary pics for the other matches as well?
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jaedong too strong.... his zvz is unreal....
best having a tough day it seems...
stork
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On February 04 2009 20:44 GHOSTCLAW wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2009 20:42 baubo wrote:On February 04 2009 20:32 GHOSTCLAW wrote:On February 04 2009 20:32 baubo wrote: Just a random question, is 4-pool feasible in ZvZ at all on 2 player maps? I've never seen anything faster than 9 pool-speed in ZvZ. Just wondering. super cheesy, but yes, it's feasible. no one really does it though. I see. This came across my mind when they were displaying their ZvZ records, and thought that perhaps lesser players really should just cheese... and then realized that no one actually does it. I mean, the real problem is that you have 6 lings vs at that point probably 9 drones. the drones have 40 hp each, and your zerglings only have 25. the damage per second of the zergling is double, but the drones can cheat and stack. as you can probably figure out, it's just tough for only 6 lings to do enough damage to be able to kill off the other player.
disagree. 6 lings can rape 9 drones pretty easily unless the attacker is pretty stupid.
It has more to do with 4 pool only really dominating 12 hatch and coming out behind vs 9 pool (unless on super close positions)
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i wonder if stork and bisu will help each other practice for yarnc and july
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wtf i didn't realize bisu had that kinda apm.... holy fuck..
storky no
but yay jaedong/hwasin/leta
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On February 05 2009 05:37 dekuschrub wrote:wtf i didn't realize bisu had that kinda apm.... holy fuck.. storky no but yay jaedong/hwasin/leta when bisu was slumping it was around 330 i think
fuckin crazy
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4/4 today im glad hwasin managed to win
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On February 05 2009 05:33 fusionsdf wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2009 20:44 GHOSTCLAW wrote:On February 04 2009 20:42 baubo wrote:On February 04 2009 20:32 GHOSTCLAW wrote:On February 04 2009 20:32 baubo wrote: Just a random question, is 4-pool feasible in ZvZ at all on 2 player maps? I've never seen anything faster than 9 pool-speed in ZvZ. Just wondering. super cheesy, but yes, it's feasible. no one really does it though. I see. This came across my mind when they were displaying their ZvZ records, and thought that perhaps lesser players really should just cheese... and then realized that no one actually does it. I mean, the real problem is that you have 6 lings vs at that point probably 9 drones. the drones have 40 hp each, and your zerglings only have 25. the damage per second of the zergling is double, but the drones can cheat and stack. as you can probably figure out, it's just tough for only 6 lings to do enough damage to be able to kill off the other player. disagree. 6 lings can rape 9 drones pretty easily unless the attacker is pretty stupid. It has more to do with 4 pool only really dominating 12 hatch and coming out behind vs 9 pool (unless on super close positions) Lings have 35hp.
wtf is he babbling about. 6 lings vs 9 drones is autoloss for the drones unless the lings are micro'ed very poorly. The problem with 4pool is that usually by the time the lings get to the opponents base the pool will be finished and lings will come out to defend in due time, and so you will end up behind in drones.
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United States1865 Posts
Luxury looked so frustrated after his game vs Jaedong. I felt bad for him. Its like the smart guy that works hard and has some natural talent vs the fucking genius. Theres nothing he can do, JD is just on another level.
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On February 05 2009 05:33 traced wrote: i wonder if stork and bisu will help each other practice for yarnc and july Who knows? I think they like to keep it within the team. Then again, you have interviews where progamers thank people from all over progaming for helping them practice.
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On February 05 2009 05:06 XYoonZ wrote:Nice. Do you have these summary pics for the other matches as well?
280 APM as average is not slow.
What is actually the first row stand for? As overall unit number is kind of small for a game lasts over 17 minutes.
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I have a feeling that it disregards probe production.
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Hwasin, Bisu, Leta and Jaedong are in my OSL fantasy team !
YEAH 4/4
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On February 05 2009 01:23 disciple wrote: Jesus, so bisu is actually the APM bitch around ? Did you get a shot of JD's post match stats ? I mean no other toss is even close to the 400 mark
I've seen JD and luxury with 430+ in muta micro games
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On February 05 2009 07:46 Sunyveil wrote:Show nested quote +On February 05 2009 01:23 disciple wrote: Jesus, so bisu is actually the APM bitch around ? Did you get a shot of JD's post match stats ? I mean no other toss is even close to the 400 mark I've seen JD and luxury with 430+ in muta micro games that is probably why the word "toss" is in there.
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Germany2762 Posts
3/4 today... i didn't think best would lose to hwasin.. ;C
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On February 05 2009 05:06 XYoonZ wrote:Nice. Do you have these summary pics for the other matches as well?
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updated: Recommended games with VODs in the spoilers.
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that reaver battle was gods
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On February 05 2009 07:41 trollbone wrote: YEAH 4/4 These results are excellent.
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hwasin's just on fire, don't blame best
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On February 05 2009 14:29 ItchReliever wrote: hwasin's just on fire, don't blame best
agreed he just raped his MSL group and advanced he beat both Flash and JD to advance to ro8
ridiculous Hwasin really wants a double crown
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You might want to spoiler that DreaM)XeRO, those results are still fresh.
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MrHoon
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