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Hey Guys,im a Platinum Terran from Germany.I Play SC2 since 1 Year now(with a short break of 4 months)and i have a huge Problem.
I don`t know why,but I am scared to press the Find Match button.I didnt had this in the beginning of my sc2 career,but as i got better and higher,I got more Scared.I dont know if that is just a problem of me,or if other people also have this kind of Feeling.
I really dont have a Problem to jump in a Custom Game,play and lose.If i lose in a Ladder Match,and see that i fall down in the ladder ranking,i just dont want to play sc2 anymore,and i take a break for 2 days or so,which means i barely play 5 games per week.
I`m excited to hear your answers
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There are countless threads on this. Please try the search function.
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Best of luck with overcoming it, but there are literally dozens of threads dedicated to the issue. No need to make a new one.
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United Kingdom14103 Posts
On November 20 2012 04:17 alpha01 wrote: Hey Guys,im a Platinum Terran from Germany.I Play SC2 since 1 Year now(with a short break of 4 months)and i have a huge Problem.
I don`t know why,but I am scared to press the Find Match button.I didnt had this in the beginning of my sc2 career,but as i got better and higher,I got more Scared.I dont know if that is just a problem of me,or if other people also have this kind of Feeling.
I really dont have a Problem to jump in a Custom Game,play and lose.If i lose in a Ladder Match,and see that i fall down in the ladder ranking,i just dont want to play sc2 anymore,and i take a break for 2 days or so,which means i barely play 5 games per week.
I`m excited to hear your answers
As you've played more you've started to care more about the game, so now you're afraid to play in case you lose.
Only way to get over it is just to keep hitting find game until you don't care about losing.
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You are not alone... I have the same feelings (Diamond Zerg) But I play like 1 game a month since the beta :D
I am also from Germany. Maybe the country is the problem? :D
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Good for you. I have problems NOT to press that button. Much more unhealthy for life in general.
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who cares? its just a button, and by pressing it you get to play some awesome sc2
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Since im in the HoTs beta this problem is gone for me, i just play unnranked
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Or you can just do what I did and quit playing and find something better to do with your time, or find a more entertaining game to play. Makes no sense to tread water. Of course if you like being scared thats fine too I guess lol. Although I must warn you it could cause you to become paranoid.
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Once you've lost enough time you stop giving a fuck,don't worry.
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Once you come to the realization that you are not the best player in the world and that it is inevitable that you will lose a game and that by only through losing can you improve - then maybe you'll find solace.
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Where dat snitch at?36659 Posts
If you search you will find TONS of threads on ladder anxiety
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You know what might help, pick random and try some silly strats and just enjoy yourself (you will obviously lose a lot). Then you will subconsciously accept that losing doesn't matter and lose your fear.
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On November 20 2012 04:17 alpha01 wrote: Hey Guys,im a Platinum Terran from Germany.I Play SC2 since 1 Year now(with a short break of 4 months)and i have a huge Problem.
I don`t know why,but I am scared to press the Find Match button.I didnt had this in the beginning of my sc2 career,but as i got better and higher,I got more Scared.I dont know if that is just a problem of me,or if other people also have this kind of Feeling.
I really dont have a Problem to jump in a Custom Game,play and lose.If i lose in a Ladder Match,and see that i fall down in the ladder ranking,i just dont want to play sc2 anymore,and i take a break for 2 days or so,which means i barely play 5 games per week.
I`m excited to hear your answers
Disclaimer: I am one of those people who think ladder anxiety doesn't really exist, and is just an excuse for people to not play the game.
My advice. Why do you play sc 2? Do you play for fun? Do you play because you want to be a pro? If you are playing for fun then you have no reason to have issues. No one is judging your performance. No one really cares how you play. Honestly, if you don't want to play the game don't play it, play when you feel like it and you are hyped up to play. Get yourself excited to play. Just have fun.
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Wow, my time machine worked oO
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On November 20 2012 04:31 opisska wrote: Good for you. I have problems NOT to press that button. Much more unhealthy for life in general.
This. Once I had ladder anxiety. Now I don't, and I kinda wish i had anxiety, because sc2 is insanely addicting and I shouldn't waste my time playing this game.
I really wish I could have a helthy relationship with sc2. Say I could perhaps 2 hours 3/4 times a week.
Now I don't play that often (cus I know i can't control it). But when I play I play for like 12 hours straight or so.
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On November 20 2012 05:07 HeeroFX wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2012 04:17 alpha01 wrote: Hey Guys,im a Platinum Terran from Germany.I Play SC2 since 1 Year now(with a short break of 4 months)and i have a huge Problem.
I don`t know why,but I am scared to press the Find Match button.I didnt had this in the beginning of my sc2 career,but as i got better and higher,I got more Scared.I dont know if that is just a problem of me,or if other people also have this kind of Feeling.
I really dont have a Problem to jump in a Custom Game,play and lose.If i lose in a Ladder Match,and see that i fall down in the ladder ranking,i just dont want to play sc2 anymore,and i take a break for 2 days or so,which means i barely play 5 games per week.
I`m excited to hear your answers Disclaimer: I am one of those people who think ladder anxiety doesn't really exist, and is just an excuse for people to not play the game.My advice. Why do you play sc 2? Do you play for fun? Do you play because you want to be a pro? If you are playing for fun then you have no reason to have issues. No one is judging your performance. No one really cares how you play. Honestly, if you don't want to play the game don't play it, play when you feel like it and you are hyped up to play. Get yourself excited to play. Just have fun.
Your definitely wrong. I remember thinking sc2 was really fun to play, yet I was scared to lose.
Most people also don't use anxiety as an excuse. They would use other excuses not to play the game. Like they are tired, htey have to do other stuff in 20 mons (so they don't have time to play now). Or they will say they need to study the game to become better. This is not because they don't enjoy 1on1. They are just scared of losing. The problem is when you identiify your self with your rank/point etc.
As a general rule; As long as you know your rank/the amoint of point you have --> then you have ladder anxiety. Because chances are, that if you know you have like 466 point and is rank 11, then you are too focussed on those numbers and they become your "world". You are scared of losing it. However, for me there came a time where I became more focussed at getting better at the game. LIke improving siege tank positioning. Unit control etc, and graduallly started to care less about rank. It's much better to identify your self with your ingame strenghts. LIke "I have great marine splitting" or "I am a great mech player" than "I am rank 4 in division 65 platinum".
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WTF is ladder anxiety? I mean I used to play Broodwar for over 5 years on various ladders WGTour, PGTour, ICCUP, but never heard of it... Is this some kind of new computing age disease?
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On November 20 2012 04:17 alpha01 wrote: Hey Guys,im a Platinum Terran from Germany.I Play SC2 since 1 Year now(with a short break of 4 months)and i have a huge Problem.
I don`t know why,but I am scared to press the Find Match button.I didnt had this in the beginning of my sc2 career,but as i got better and higher,I got more Scared.I dont know if that is just a problem of me,or if other people also have this kind of Feeling.
I really dont have a Problem to jump in a Custom Game,play and lose.If i lose in a Ladder Match,and see that i fall down in the ladder ranking,i just dont want to play sc2 anymore,and i take a break for 2 days or so,which means i barely play 5 games per week.
I`m excited to hear your answers
You're experiencing anxiety from loss aversion. When you are at the bottom of the ladder, you are playing only to move up. You have nothing to lose. Once you reach a rank that you are proud of, you are afraid that you are going to drop. The incentive to increase your rank is less than the incentive to just stay where you are.
You need to realize that this is dumb. Ranks do not matter. They are a byproduct. The only thing that matters is that you are getting better and getting reference experiences. When you press find match, you're not trying to win the most games in the shortest period. Instead, you are trying to get these reference experiences so that you continue to grow as a player.
Bottom line - man up.
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Not to sound rude or anything. But, if fictitious ladder points is what is keeping you up at night, I believe there is a more serious issue at hand.
Points to Remember: 1) If you suck you suck, no matter what rank your account say. So just play the game. If you like how how playing makes your feel, you do it, regardless of how bad you are. Practice makes perfect.
EDIT: Decided to give "anxiety" a quick TL search
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/search.php?q=anxiety
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Honestly man, just say fuck it. Once you realize that you are playing a game and it's no big deal you will get better.
It's like Sgt. Spears says in Band of Brothers when he is asked why he isn't scared. He replies with "Once you realize you are already dead, you have nothing to fear".
Also, remember what White-Ra says - "More GG, more skill.".
Just chill and click the button.
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I am ladder rank 100 in bronze and I played against a golden opponent in the first game I played, like WTF? I played protoss against a zerg and he made some kind of stephano 3-base roach rush and first time i experienced it, ffssss
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Get over yourself and keep queueing; i never quite understood ladder anxiety myself.. Im top masters since season1, dont know if that could be why but i have had 10 + losses streaks. And for me, its the opposite; the more i lose, the more i get angry and queue faster over and over again. If i win 7-8 in a row im like satisfied and stop playing lol.
For me, the more i lose the more i play, because when i lose i know that i did not play up to my standards and can do much much better, so i keep queuing..
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On November 20 2012 05:39 VPC wrote: Honestly man, just say fuck it. Once you realize that you are playing a game and it's no big deal you will get better.
It's like Sgt. Spears says in Band of Brothers when he is asked why he isn't scared. He replies with "Once you realize you are already dead, you have nothing to fear".
Also, remember what White-Ra says - "More GG, more skill.".
Just chill and click the button.
wrong attitude. If one adopts this mentality one loses interest in the game.
Obviously the point is to identify your ingame strenght and weakness's. Focus on them. Evalute them game after game. See where you improve and have a goal for improving, rather than having a goal for being rank x.
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I think the main issue with Ladder Anxiety isn't the 'ranking' part (though that definitely helps), it's the 1vs1 aspect of SC2. There are other games that focus on 1vs1 (fighting games, shooters, puzzle games whatever) but somehow none of them are anywhere near as intense as SC2.
Usually, what I do to deal with Ladder Anxiety is just press the button - because I want to play SC2 dammit. I fool myself to think 'I'll just press the button and then not play' or something like that if needed, bu after I press the button the ladder anxiety disspates completely and I'm free to just...play the game. As many games as I want (until I get too big a losign streak )
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To be honest, i play other games first ( lately i have been playing WarZ or CS:GO) which those 2 games, you can't make it out without dying = losing. When i come back to play a few ladders i am like you know what it's like a killed round, just come back stronger and kill/wins more games.
Sorry for my poor language I ARE FRENCH !!!!!!
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On November 20 2012 05:49 Snake.69 wrote: Get over yourself and keep queueing; i never quite understood ladder anxiety myself.. Im top masters since season1, dont know if that could be why but i have had 10 + losses streaks. And for me, its the opposite; the more i lose, the more i get angry and queue faster over and over again. If i win 7-8 in a row im like satisfied and stop playing lol.
For me, the more i lose the more i play, because when i lose i know that i did not play up to my standards and can do much much better, so i keep queuing..
This is actually a normal consequence of ladder anxiety. After a won game (with ladder anxiety) you feel like you ahve a lot to lose and little to win. Hnece you don't play. However, after a lost game you have nothing to lsoe, and you wan't to "win" by playing another game which you hopefully win.
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On November 20 2012 05:52 hooahah wrote:I think the main issue with Ladder Anxiety isn't the 'ranking' part (though that definitely helps), it's the 1vs1 aspect of SC2. There are other games that focus on 1vs1 (fighting games, shooters, puzzle games whatever) but somehow none of them are anywhere near as intense as SC2. Usually, what I do to deal with Ladder Anxiety is just press the button - because I want to play SC2 dammit. I fool myself to think 'I'll just press the button and then not play' or something like that if needed, bu after I press the button the ladder anxiety disspates completely and I'm free to just...play the game. As many games as I want (until I get too big a losign streak )
This is easily disproven by the fact that most people with ladder anxiety prefers to play custom 1on1. A lot of people (including my self - I used to do that at least) are lying to them selves by saying that they prefer playing customs because it allows them to improve their builds. Like they need to work on timings etc. Often they will not admit that they are playing custom 1on1's because they fear losing point.
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On November 20 2012 05:57 Hider wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2012 05:52 hooahah wrote:I think the main issue with Ladder Anxiety isn't the 'ranking' part (though that definitely helps), it's the 1vs1 aspect of SC2. There are other games that focus on 1vs1 (fighting games, shooters, puzzle games whatever) but somehow none of them are anywhere near as intense as SC2. Usually, what I do to deal with Ladder Anxiety is just press the button - because I want to play SC2 dammit. I fool myself to think 'I'll just press the button and then not play' or something like that if needed, bu after I press the button the ladder anxiety disspates completely and I'm free to just...play the game. As many games as I want (until I get too big a losign streak ) This is easily disproven by the fact that most people with ladder anxiety prefers to play custom 1on1. A lot of people (including my self - I used to do that at least) are lying to them selves by saying that they prefer playing customs because it allows them to improve their builds. Like they need to work on timings etc. Often they will not admit that they are playing custom 1on1's because they fear losing point.
yeah, thinking about it Rank is definitely an important part - however I think the reason people don't find Custom games stressful is because they regard them as 'freebies' - so when they lose, it doesn't actually mean anything. It doesn't mean that they lost. "that game doesn't really count"
the reason I think it's mostly 1vs1 that stresses people out is that no one has Ladder Anxiety in DOTA-esque games despite them having MMR as well (though not quite as visible or 'important' as in SC2)
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On November 20 2012 06:03 hooahah wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2012 05:57 Hider wrote:On November 20 2012 05:52 hooahah wrote:I think the main issue with Ladder Anxiety isn't the 'ranking' part (though that definitely helps), it's the 1vs1 aspect of SC2. There are other games that focus on 1vs1 (fighting games, shooters, puzzle games whatever) but somehow none of them are anywhere near as intense as SC2. Usually, what I do to deal with Ladder Anxiety is just press the button - because I want to play SC2 dammit. I fool myself to think 'I'll just press the button and then not play' or something like that if needed, bu after I press the button the ladder anxiety disspates completely and I'm free to just...play the game. As many games as I want (until I get too big a losign streak ) This is easily disproven by the fact that most people with ladder anxiety prefers to play custom 1on1. A lot of people (including my self - I used to do that at least) are lying to them selves by saying that they prefer playing customs because it allows them to improve their builds. Like they need to work on timings etc. Often they will not admit that they are playing custom 1on1's because they fear losing point. yeah, thinking about it Rank is definitely an important part - however I think the reason people don't find Custom games stressful is because they regard them as 'freebies' - so when they lose, it doesn't actually mean anything. It doesn't mean that they lost. "that game doesn't really count" the reason I think it's mostly 1vs1 that stresses people out is that no one has Ladder Anxiety in DOTA-esque games despite them having MMR as well (though not quite as visible or 'important' as in SC2)
Oh yeh, I kinda misunderstood you. It's obviously about getting your specific results measured. Getting your teams results measured is not the same thing.
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United States4714 Posts
This has been discussed plenty of times before.
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