IEM Oakland 2017 - Page 3
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Faruko
Chile34157 Posts
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Ysellian
Netherlands9029 Posts
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Faruko
Chile34157 Posts
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Muffloe
Sweden6061 Posts
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Rebs
Pakistan10726 Posts
On November 20 2017 21:30 Ysellian wrote: Haha yeah, I didn't think Nip could beat them with this kind of firepower but I'm super happy they did Been a while I could cheer for Nip. I didnt think so either, but I was very happy to be wrong. Rez's firepower is the real deal. Draken could improve he is a bit Heni1'esque in that his decision making is still a bit suspect, but once he learns how to take better duels hes a beast aswell. The other thing is Forest maintaining the level this tournament. GTR has always kinda been there and there abouts playing at a reasonably highish level but Forest has been very up and down. I cant think of a good case to make to keep Xzist, I am not so sure how much his igl abilities impact the team but if they do enough to keep him thats fine. but other than that hes really not all that useful. CS is so insanely competitive right now its great. So many unique tournament winners all year with different teams peaking throughout the year. Think about it, the team that won a pretty stacked IEM Oakland got dumped out of the minor qualifer. The EU MINOR! Thats like Tier 4 | ||
Ysellian
Netherlands9029 Posts
I do think though that the major qualifier system and the major itself needs to be looked at. Of course the Nip back then didn't deserve to qualify for losing, but performing well at tournaments between the majors should count for something. Also 8 teams legend status is a bit much when there are only two majors a year, CS is too competitive to give half the teams at the major free qualification. Personally would also like to see the major expanded, but I doubt the money is there sadly. | ||
Rebs
Pakistan10726 Posts
On November 21 2017 03:55 Ysellian wrote: The current CS landscape is insane. I believe I read a stat on reddit where there were 11 different finalists for the last 7 $250k tournaments with only Faze and SK being a consistent factor. I do think though that the major qualifier system and the major itself needs to be looked at. Of course the Nip back then didn't deserve to qualify for losing, but performing well at tournaments between the majors should count for something. Also 8 teams legend status is a bit much when there are only two majors a year, CS is too competitive to give half the teams at the major free qualification. Personally would also like to see the major expanded, but I doubt the money is there sadly. I agree They should do something similar to Dota, where they just do away with legend spots except for maybe the top 4 or the finalists and have a ranking system based on 250K + tournament performances or something of the like. Honestly the formula HLTV.org uses is pretty good and quite consistent. Although its flawed in that it covers to much to be useful as a major qualification system so in that sense its pretty unofficial. But doing the dota equivalent where teams know exactly what they need to do over the course of the year (with some qualifier spots reserved) isnt a terrible idea. So like maybe top 2 autoqualify. next 6 spots for teams with some form of ranking points. And then the final 8 from the minor major system. | ||
Ragnarork
France9034 Posts
On November 21 2017 01:03 Rebs wrote: I didnt think so either, but I was very happy to be wrong. Rez's firepower is the real deal. Draken could improve he is a bit Heni1'esque in that his decision making is still a bit suspect, but once he learns how to take better duels hes a beast aswell. The other thing is Forest maintaining the level this tournament. GTR has always kinda been there and there abouts playing at a reasonably highish level but Forest has been very up and down. I cant think of a good case to make to keep Xzist, I am not so sure how much his igl abilities impact the team but if they do enough to keep him thats fine. but other than that hes really not all that useful. CS is so insanely competitive right now its great. So many unique tournament winners all year with different teams peaking throughout the year. Think about it, the team that won a pretty stacked IEM Oakland got dumped out of the minor qualifer. The EU MINOR! Thats like Tier 4 You forgot to mention THREAT. I tend to think he's been considerably impactful, factoring in how NiP paused, and how well they adjusted after. Now to see if NiP have really found a way to renew their lineup enough to go the distance. But they've improved quite some in the past few months. | ||
Rebs
Pakistan10726 Posts
On November 21 2017 09:33 Ragnarork wrote: You forgot to mention THREAT. I tend to think he's been considerably impactful, factoring in how NiP paused, and how well they adjusted after. Now to see if NiP have really found a way to renew their lineup enough to go the distance. But they've improved quite some in the past few months. Threats been around long enough, his impact his been pretty consistent since the start of last year. The other factors have been the question marks. Hes been around when they were absolutely ass aswell. There is only so much you can impact after a certain pint. At the end of the day Threat had little to do with the player raising their levels individually and thats really what pushed them forward. Nothing supremely tactical. | ||
FuDDx
United States4998 Posts
Anyone see the balloons Sean and I were making! Was sad the side we were on had tvs but only played the PUBG games. Better than nothing but would have loved to see the games. Always a great time working for ESL!! Sean did the Player Unknown guy with lvl 3 helmet and the Green CT I did the Hooded PUBG guy with bandana(I tried) and the T CSGO guy. | ||
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