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FFGenerations
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they qualified the woman by making some tears drip out her eyes twice in a row and then made her save the man by shooting a gun (btw weren't the 2 boys face to face with a flying dinosaur like 1 second ago? maybe my torrent skipped a second). felt super contrived the helper woman got fucked up but she had literally zero character/screentime so who cares. it felt super cheap to take a character and fuck them up for no reason and with no validation same with the computer guy. he got completely shat on randomly by the computer girl coworker. and then the MC woman completely shat on him for no reason "do something useful for once in your life and open the door". the hell? the boys were fine, EXCEPT (and maybe everyone forgot about this coz the only memerable part of the movie is the last 10 mins where it duplicates jurassic park inside the facility) that the first 20 mins of the movie the younger boy is SUPER excited to be there, then suddenly completely out of the blue he is mega emo about thinking his parents might divorce. W T F ? making the older boy a massive creeper (if you can remember the first half of the movie) was .......................... weird as shit, because any of that part of his character was forgotten about and dropped. they didn't make it funny or amusing or whatever, he just creeped a bit and that was it. forgotten. (then suddenly he becomes the excited one instead of the emo type that he was in the first 20 mins of the movie). look. you just had a "shock" scene where the giant fish dinosaur last hits someone. then you use the EXACT same fucking scene to last hit the final boss. whats the point? WHATS THE FUCKING POINT OF THIS WHOLE MOVIE????? military guy, i cudnt figure out who he was the first half of the movie when he'[s CONSTANTLY handing round the rapter pens. it was like , this guy is hanging round all the goddamn time, hes annoying as fuck, why dont they remove him at the end when superman guy punched him in the face randomly, that just seemed a bit ineffective, almost embarrassing. i mean he walked up to him and randomly socked him in the face before talking, except the military guy just stood there and started talking like he hadn't even been scratched, i felt embarrassed for superman guy, i bet he regretted doing that like some mega spaz. then he teams up with him military guy gets eaten by dinosaur, dont know why . there was no set up to it. ok so they were transporting embryos or something but there is no sinister implication, no conflict, suddenly the raptor comes and kills him (i think that raptor must have been blind in 1 eye, after being blinded by the military guy, and so the revenge is that he kills the military guy without noticing the 4 other people standing there, that would give the scene some substance) i guess that is the word. lack of substance through and through, stuff is THERE just there is no substance to any of it. even from the VERY FIRST scene of the movie you have the dad say "thats the last well see of them" and the mom say "why do u have to say shit like that huh?" and ur like woooooooah , is this supposed to be funny or is there some serious shit going down? but in the end it turns out the movie was taking things too seriously to be funny but was too retarded and lacking substance to be serious | ||
Spicy_Curry
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Grand Symphony
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On June 22 2015 07:42 Spicy_Curry wrote: Am i the only one impressed by claire running from everything in her high heels? Is that even possible? Yes, you are the only one, it definitely has never been pointed out by pretty much every media outlet and review of the movie, no, no way. I can't believe you were the first to notice it - hahahahaHAHAHA. User was warned for this post | ||
CosmicSpiral
United States15275 Posts
On June 22 2015 07:42 Spicy_Curry wrote: Am i the only one impressed by claire running from everything in her high heels? Is that even possible? She borrowed her legs from the Bionic Woman. | ||
shin_toss
Philippines2589 Posts
On June 18 2015 08:49 Grand Symphony wrote: So WTF is the point of keeping the Pteranodons in the glasshouse? Obviously no-one can go in without being eaten, how are they fed? And if all it takes is something to smash into the glass to get them out, WTF. There are probably viewing area in the aviary of course. Like a pathway with glass cover or fence. (like the one in Jurassic part 3) | ||
Sentenal
United States12394 Posts
On June 22 2015 11:23 shin_toss wrote: There are probably viewing area in the aviary of course. Like a pathway with glass cover or fence. (like the one in Jurassic part 3) Yep http://www.jurassicworld.com/park-map/aviary/ | ||
17Sphynx17
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+ Show Spoiler + I do see the irrelevance of the kids and their parents (plus the divorce plot line). I think the movie could have been better served without those 4 characters.. We could have seen the overview of the park via some welcome sequence that you show guests before they enter the park then have door open to a tram or whatever and have the same flyby shot to give the overview of what Jurassic World is presently in its current form. We did not need to see it in the kids eyes I know of the "heels" issue and I did wonder why they didnt act on it in the earlier scene where Chris Pratt himself mentioned it in her face. I honestly thought she would have kicked them off then and there already just to shut him up but no. So that was actually weird I know of inconsistencies as well like how they have a chain gun meant to be mounted onto a chopper yet no other chopper except a civilian one on site? Didnt make sense I was thrown off though why the chopper appeared like a toy when it landed in front of the iRex pen the first time yet the chopper was real, so that was odd I guess from a story telling standpoint, I would have prefered to just be 2 sides, the business/theme park operations side and the R&D/Military side only so that it would have been more focused instead of adding a 3rd unrelated family plotline to the whole mess. Saw it in a 4DX theater and it had it moments where it improved the experience but also had those moments where it distracted and was just overkill already and not needed I'd give it a 7/10 | ||
don_kyuhote
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It reminded me how awesome the jurassic park soundtrack is. That music as the tourists are taken into the park through the gate with "welcome to jurassic world" sign is pretty majestic. There better be a sequel with the Dr. Wu and the flown off embryos and stuff | ||
Arevall
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ThomasjServo
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Grand Symphony
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On June 25 2015 23:38 ThomasjServo wrote: Entertaining, Claire was the most useless character ever. You could have written her out completely and had the kids be Pratt's nephews and it wouldn't have made a lick of difference. Nuh uh she was obviously what made the movie as a strong, independent woman who doesn't need a man to become a CEO that's right you're just a jealous rapist who probably watches porn all day because you can't get any self-respecting woman to love you etc. etc. the same old feminist bullshit talking points. | ||
Ghost151
United States290 Posts
So aside from the obvious flaws (terrible B sci-fi movie writing, deplorable characterizations, Hollywood logic and reasoning, etc) the CGI was good and I suppose it does keep that core of "dinosaurs eating people" that was the whole hook that put money behind the previous projects in the first place. This one has all the glaring issues of JP3 but somehow isn't as bad as that movie. Chris Pratt is literally the only good actor (and I'm not fanboying over him or anything, I'm indifferent to him and other than Guardians of the Galaxy I don't even know who he is) but his character is still super cheesy, spouting all the expected drivel of the "only sane man" and smart-assed comments, but at least they give him the redeeming action guy scenes to make it more stomachable. Everybody else is completely pointless fluff or terribly done to point I was scoffing in the theater inadvertently. Maybe BD Wong wasn't so bad, if you buy into his self-righteous rant that echoes the ethics of the InGen military vulture and places him more in line with his book persona (in it for the prestige) rather than the friendly face in JP1. This part just for me to rant off... + Show Spoiler + -the boys are useless and an unnecessary plot thread. Once they serve their purpose as the introductory vehicle to put the audience at the park as a guest, their part is done, and everything else could have been supplanted on to literally any extra in the movie, because they add nothing meaningful whatsoever. In fact they should have just been fucking extras with minor speaking roles. The kids in JP were more central because they were actually Hammond's grandchildren and he loved them (even in the book where he is much more callous and self serving, he was using his relationship with them to his benefit by having them at the park for a first impression/PR testimonial and to shut his daughter up), they have character development with Grant (his major one, actually, and they motivate Malcolm to near suicide too) plus they are children among only a handful of people even on the island at all, then the Rex (she is way more horrifying in this aspect in the book, though the paddock scene in the movie is just awesome) and Raptors try to make them food. Even Eric in JP3 serves as the original underlying purpose of the whole trip to the island, shows he isn't just a load, isn't majorly threatened any more than any of the other characters that are in the same boat as him etc etc, and that movie was terrible These little bastards in JW seem deliberately written to annoy, what with the older one being the heel-face turn creeper big bro who doesn't give two shits about his little brother in favor of girls until they almost die, and the little one, while being less insufferable due to his believable innocent wonder, brings the pointless divorce thread with him to try and justify the characters of himself/his bro but it was just that...pointless, and due to a scene cut here or there wasn't really well explained enough to justify Claire's involvement whatsoever. Yeah their parents are having problems, it seems quite logical the most prudent thing to do is ship them off to a theme park to get their minds off of things and then not deliberately explain that point seems well thought out...I get that their aunt is the director or whatever and can pull strings, but it literally does not fucking MATTER because she is written to not care and is too tertiary in her connection to them, so much so that it is incredibly forced when she goes all mama bear later on. These kids SUCK and make everything else about the movie worse through their connections in the writing! It says a lot to how unnecessary they are that they have zero interaction with Pratt's character directly... -Claire is the most annoying lead...somehow we're supposed to get behind her later in the movie when she goes mama bear mode over her nephews but that would be ignoring her glaring stupidity and naivete that she willfully exerts as an excuse to be efficient at her job. Much of the events of the movie are either directly or indirectly set into motion because of her fucking stupidity, and ALL of the arrogance that traditionally is to blame for these movies' plots to happen is concentrated in her (save a minor comeuppance for the "villain"). She's the director of operations and THEY DON"T HAVE A FUCKING WAY TO TRACK THE HYBRID TOO DANGEROUS TO RAISE NORMALLY FROM ITS OWN FUCKING PEN?!?!? Way to drop that fucking ball, dipshit. That's going way beyond the underpreparedness and lack of efficacy of containment measures in the first movie, that's just her deliberately making a poor decision for plot purposes. And then she gets defensive about it when shit starts going wrong, resists taking proper action (like...get the guests off the fucking island? It's an ISLAND. They can't get off until they are evacuated, so they are just a disaster waiting to happen, and likewise if they evacuate the dinos can't exactly follow them so double whammy fail for her) until after Masrani dies, and by then it's, of course, too late, blah blah, same old shit. She's insufferable as it is, and when they try to develop her it's such stark contrast to her former self and so sudden it's like being slapped in the face with it. The movie jumps the shark several times, and one of them is her scene with the T Rex as she leads it with a flare (noted to be a BAD idea as Malcolm found out) but outruns it somehow. I don't even need to point out she was in heels either, it was just that absurd already. -Owen for the most part is great. He's actually smart and survives because of it, and of course was the only sane man on the entire fucking island (along with Bob, his assistant) so it's great karma. He gets a little hammy with his warnings though, right up until the point he's proven completely right and he turns into a savvy badass (and thankfully he's not one of those "man I hate being right" guys). Could have done without the rough past with female lead, punch in the the face of the insufferable guy and the riding with the raptors (LOL) scenes, but of course they'd be in there, those tropes are far too hollywood to be written out for the sake of not making him appear as cliche as any other action guy. Still, he does a great job, and actually directly combats the I. Rex too, despite it being the most dangerous thing in JP history. -The Mosasaur is way too big. Even the largest Mosasuarid was thought to be up to 60 feet long at maximum (let's not forget that these figures depict exceptional individuals), and most were crocodile sized instead. Even going off of the idea it was a Mosasaurus hoffmannii, Using the ~40 foot T Rex/ I Rex for scale, that thing is fucking HUGE, closer to 100 feet or so. -stock sci-fi movie tropes all over the place. Guy that wants to miltarize bio-weapons, they can program (...the fuck?) the raptors somehow, the main beastie is unstoppable because it's genetically modified, etc. -you gotta fucking love that the very first thing the Pteranodons and those other little shits do when they escape (running in FEAR from I. Rex, while we're at it) is attack en masse, like a compacted group of 20,000 prey animals as big or larger than them is just a smorgasbord. Even those little shits that are like half an adult's size are jumping right in there! Predators don't fucking work that way...this whole part just had me shake my head. I also highly doubt that a Pteranodon could fly off without impediment carrying a 110lb woman. Even eagles that carry off deer and goats (both considerably smaller than an adult woman or man) don't exactly fly off with them, they more grab and drag them along while gliding down a slope. -Speaking of that, Zara's death was pretty damn horrible for such an innocent character. In the brief time she has on screen, she's tried to be portrayed as unlikeable, sure, but was only trying to faithfully do her job and even really shows basic concern for the boys pointing out that standing up in the flyer attack is a bad idea. And then she gets grabbed and carried of for the sake of ironic coincidence, horribly savaged (and most certainly in danger of being drowned) by the pteranodons in a group attack (notably the ONLY person that got ganged up on besides the main bad guy I. Rex in the entire movie) and then devoured by the Mosasaur for shock and awe bonus points. And then she never gets mentioned again! The whole thing comes off as especially heinous in a movie full of cruel and terrible deaths of innocents, like the writers had it out for her or something. -They make the Raptors worse in every appearance. In the first movie (and the book), they make a point to explain the reason why they're so dreaded is because they are incredibly intelligent as well as viscous...In the next two movies, they're just feral animals, albeit persistent, and by this entry, they've been made up to be like more dangerous dogs, anything but smart. Not to mention they somehow are capable of somehow pulling a heel-face turn, showing a remarkable amount of human characterization...for a barely trainable animal that is a killing machine, by Owen's own admission. Remarkable. -For all the characterization and effect on the plot Hoskins had (I had to just go look his name up, he's that forgettable), he could have just swaggered onto the scene after everything had gone to shit with his cronies and had the exact same lack of importance as he did before. His role is completely pointless except to have somebody to be the target of a "i told you so" from Owen. They try to justify his connection to the plot through some shady deal with Wu. Wu could have been acting entirely alone and not a thing would be different without Hoskins. Such a useless character just put in there to give the audience somebody to antagonize for some stupid reason. He's not even that unlikeable, just a (somewhat zealous) realist and he's actually partially right and gets proven so even after his own death, redeeming him even further. -Let's talk about the I. Rex for a minute. It's part T. Rex, part raptor, part cuttlefish (apparently) and part frog. And this somehow gives her the select abilities of those creatures. Like being able to control the raptors through mimicking their calls, despite being hugely different and the raptors are supposed to be quite smart. Because that's how DNA works, right? Fucking stupid. On the flip side, the writers did pay a lot of attention to her as a character and humanized her quite a bit, making her really seem truly intelligent (she actively learns throughout the movie at alarming speed) and actually evil in her intent, rather than just a dangerous, hungry feral animal. -The movie jumps the shark blatantly more than once, with SMH results: the I. Rex being a genetically modified super weapon (of course...), Zara being eaten by the Mosasaur in such an over the top way, Owen riding with the Raptors, Claire outrunning the T. Rex in heels, and my personal favorite, the I. Rex turning the faithful bloodhound Raptors (while brainwashed by some InGen tech no less!) back upon their handlers by simply mimicking their calls What the fuck. Owen's retarded line says it all about how much thought was put into this: "Now I know why they wouldn't tell anybody what it's made of....that thing's part Raptor!" God.... So yeah, not as boring and ineffectual as JP3, but definitely not one of the stronger movies either. It's not exactly just a blatant cash grab, but is strongly diluted and surely headed the way of Michael Bay's treatment of Transformers if they are truly considering more movies. JP1>JP2>>>>>JW>JP3 | ||
ThomasjServo
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On June 26 2015 01:57 Grand Symphony wrote: Nuh uh she was obviously what made the movie as a strong, independent woman who doesn't need a man to become a CEO that's right you're just a jealous rapist who probably watches porn all day because you can't get any self-respecting woman to love you etc. etc. the same old feminist bullshit talking points. I don't understand, not even in a hyperbolic sense | ||
Grand Symphony
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hitthat
Poland2195 Posts
-...is not family friendly. Lets be clear, carnivoures are hunting the easiest prey. And the easiest prey are a children, not soldiers with a GOD DAMN GUNS! Infant immortality can be tolerated in 1 or 2 movies, but not in more. Too-dumb-to-live kids are once again survivour of this movie, just as expected. Its overused. Is getting T-rating really that important now? -I want a movie that subverts any "stupid military" tropes. Security is once again useless, underequiped and underprepered branch again that DOESNT EVEN POSES EQUIPEMENT TO EFFECTIVELY KILL THE BIGGEST SPECIMEN IN THE PARK. If you are soldier, hunter or security guard in this movies, you are as good as dead. Dinos will attack you istead of protagonists and you wont even have a proper equipement to fight it off. You can survive mission in afganistan, yet you have no fucking chance against ostrich with teeths and claws. WHAT??? -...and when i actually see a dino, who is scared by shooting? Most of animals are scared even by single shot of sondguns. Dinosaurs are either deaf or dumb-suicidal. Most likely the latter becouse... -...as in any JP franchise we ever seen they are SUPER-PERSISTENT. Its justified with this genetically modified whateversaurus, but not simple animals like raptors. They attack larger, stronger dinos with no chances to win, track single prey for ages instead of give up, for getting their kill they get into hazardous sitations no matter what. In fact, they are THAT DUMB as most of human characters! But they dont die as easily becouse... -...there is a FUCKING ZOMBIE JINX IN THIS MOVIE! THIS IS A SHIT I HATE. THIS IS DEADLY SIN OF ALL MOVIE BLOCKBUSTERS! This is a main reason i hate "The walking dead" with passion. Universe itself helps the monsters in their fight against humans! You know the situations. Cell phones/radios not working. Cars can't start. In zombie/slasher movies is irritating enouth, in this franchise its overused out of proportions. Velociraptors released to kill a whateversaurus (riddiculus idea itself!) team-up with a big guy becouse it's partially velociraptor and can speech with them! LOLWUT??? Ok, its hightest time to declere any JP inspired movie dead. It's not a hope for dino movies genre. Its better to wait for some other, less repetitive ones, for example inspired by "Cadillacs and dinosaurs". Dinopocalypse is still not explored enouth, while typical JP like monster/catastrophy movie is. | ||
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