Did you like Daredevil?
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
Did you like Daredevil? Stupid question Get hype | ||
TerribleTrioJon
United States57 Posts
I didn't binge watch Daredevil when it was released on netflix, but I just might for this on Nov 20. | ||
AngryMag
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Kipsate
Netherlands45349 Posts
more importantly wtf the Dr as Villain. | ||
Faust852
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deth2munkies
United States4051 Posts
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Hyperbola
United States2514 Posts
Literally one bullet could kill Jessica or whatever he name is. Same thing with the villain. You can only plan for so many unknown variables before you get shot. | ||
Justice Crash
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As with Supergirl, you know as soon as the main character's a woman it's going to be bullshit. From Wikipedia: "Jessica later discovered that her radiation exposure granted her super strength, limited invulnerability, and flight (which she never fully mastered during her superhero career)." What a fucking surprise, a woman can't do superhero shit as well as a man. You can bet your ass in a homosexual jailcell that if the main character was male he would've mastered that shit on day one. 90% of the show will be about her emotional problems and crushes on some guy who doesn't notice her. Guaranteed. User was temp banned for this post. | ||
Faust852
Luxembourg4004 Posts
On October 24 2015 20:36 Justice Crash wrote: Looks fucking bullshit. As with Supergirl, you know as soon as the main character's a woman it's going to be bullshit. From Wikipedia: "Jessica later discovered that her radiation exposure granted her super strength, limited invulnerability, and flight (which she never fully mastered during her superhero career)." What a fucking surprise, a woman can't do superhero shit as well as a man. You can bet your ass in a homosexual jailcell that if the main character was male he would've mastered that shit on day one. 90% of the show will be about her emotional problems and crushes on some guy who doesn't notice her. Guaranteed. How can you be this retarded. | ||
CursedRich
United Kingdom737 Posts
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sertas
Sweden815 Posts
On October 24 2015 21:06 Faust852 wrote: Show nested quote + On October 24 2015 20:36 Justice Crash wrote: Looks fucking bullshit. As with Supergirl, you know as soon as the main character's a woman it's going to be bullshit. From Wikipedia: "Jessica later discovered that her radiation exposure granted her super strength, limited invulnerability, and flight (which she never fully mastered during her superhero career)." What a fucking surprise, a woman can't do superhero shit as well as a man. You can bet your ass in a homosexual jailcell that if the main character was male he would've mastered that shit on day one. 90% of the show will be about her emotional problems and crushes on some guy who doesn't notice her. Guaranteed. How can you be this retarded. the last sentence could be correct doh it wouldnt surprise me if its gonna be a lot of focus on her emotions like with any female protagonist | ||
deth2munkies
United States4051 Posts
On October 24 2015 22:31 sertas wrote: Show nested quote + On October 24 2015 21:06 Faust852 wrote: On October 24 2015 20:36 Justice Crash wrote: Looks fucking bullshit. As with Supergirl, you know as soon as the main character's a woman it's going to be bullshit. From Wikipedia: "Jessica later discovered that her radiation exposure granted her super strength, limited invulnerability, and flight (which she never fully mastered during her superhero career)." What a fucking surprise, a woman can't do superhero shit as well as a man. You can bet your ass in a homosexual jailcell that if the main character was male he would've mastered that shit on day one. 90% of the show will be about her emotional problems and crushes on some guy who doesn't notice her. Guaranteed. How can you be this retarded. the last sentence could be correct doh it wouldnt surprise me if its gonna be a lot of focus on her emotions like with any female protagonist Her character has PTSD as her Marvel flaw, of course that's going to be a focus. And honestly, that ground has been covered with plenty of male protagonists, but no females I can think of. | ||
ETisME
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Faust852
Luxembourg4004 Posts
On October 25 2015 02:11 ETisME wrote: Daredevil was good? Guess I will watch it before this airs then Yeah, it was really awesome | ||
The_Red_Viper
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SigmaoctanusIV
United States3313 Posts
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Velr
Switzerland10415 Posts
But super strength, limited invulnerability, and flight (which she never fully mastered during her superhero career) sounds just so boring.. | ||
xeliana
Austria60 Posts
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karazax
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Justice Crash
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On November 11 2015 00:45 Justice Crash wrote: Looks pretty shit TBO. What exactly is the plot? That there's some dude who can mind control people who is after the main character and the main character is trying to find him? And she also has a drinking problem so we have to also put up with that crap, FFS. Watch it and find out I am glad trailers have not shows up the whole plot although they have shown enough that it is more complicated than what you said and more complicated than 99% of hollywood movies. Certainly more complicated than Marvel blockbuster movies or Nolan's Batman movies. | ||
Requizen
United States33802 Posts
On November 11 2015 00:45 Justice Crash wrote: Looks pretty shit TBO. What exactly is the plot? That there's some dude who can mind control people who is after the main character and the main character is trying to find him? And she also has a drinking problem so we have to also put up with that crap, FFS. A trailer that doesn't give away the entire plot of the show? How terrible! How else will I know the ending before I watch it? | ||
Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On November 11 2015 00:45 Justice Crash wrote: Looks pretty shit TBO. What exactly is the plot? That there's some dude who can mind control people who is after the main character and the main character is trying to find him? And she also has a drinking problem so we have to also put up with that crap, FFS. A wiki search would pretty much fill you in if you need that. The character is a villain with mental abilities that our super strong hero can’t take on with brute force alone. And she drinks because she is a hard boiled street level hero keeping the streets clean. Not everyone is Dare Devil with a pills problem. Some people drink the pain away. | ||
The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
But this netflix stuff looks really solid , definitely watching this ! | ||
karazax
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karazax
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The_Red_Viper
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Plansix
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
Second hot take: Everyone on this show is highly fuckable. Sounds like a must watch. | ||
Velr
Switzerland10415 Posts
(all else seems nice, but i'm not far yet) | ||
Zode
Canada297 Posts
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deth2munkies
United States4051 Posts
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Xarles
459 Posts
On November 21 2015 11:10 Zode wrote: Binge watched all of it lols. I liked it, especially luke cage and kilgrave(especially kilgrave huehue). + Show Spoiler + I feel like the interrogation scene was a missed opportunity for a cameo by Murdock. | ||
icydergosu
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Zealos
United Kingdom3570 Posts
ep one is madness | ||
Amui
Canada10558 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + Fucking hell kilgrave is a monster. This show is so dark it's sickening. It's just incredible how he just casually tells people to do horrific things. But it's so good. | ||
paralleluniverse
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On a side note, the way Netflix just dumps an entire season is absurd. It robs the story of much of the suspense and discussion between episodes. We can't even have a proper discussion because everyone is at different points. | ||
ObviousOne
United States3704 Posts
Edit: Ep 2 was so... so good. | ||
deth2munkies
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Dingodile
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Requizen
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Nyxisto
Germany6287 Posts
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Daray
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+ Show Spoiler + Some of the characters were so bad though like Simpson and that crazy lady upstairs... why? Not sure about the soundtrack they went with... definitely unique but after Daredevil not sure i like it. They could've easily squeezed that story into 10-11 episodes, it felt like it dragged on for a few episodes and you already knew what is going on to happen and there was only 1 crossover and no hints into anything in the later episodes from what i saw which was really disappointing. David Tennant nailed the creepy sadist but in the end he was just a creepy sadist with nothing else going on in there and the whole cat and mouse between them got tiresome and again the main villain lived for 5 episodes more than needed because our heroine decided that she has some moral duty Zzz. Cinematography was a step down from Daredevil. Jessica jumping in 1 shot and landing in another was a regular occurrence, same with throwing people. Were they lacking in budget or done on purpose? I know Jessica is supposed to be a woman who's strong and jumps really high but has no training or whatever. That being said it was made pretty obvious that she's really weak in comparison to pretty much every other superhero out there. Daredevil could probably take her using 1 hand and 1 leg. It was a good watch 7.5/10 but not as good as Daredevil for me that's for sure. | ||
Snotling
Germany885 Posts
I really don't like the inherent logic: she cant kill him because one girl is in jail because of him. so instead of just ending him (witch she had multiple chances) she just lets him run around and kill more people..... | ||
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Croatia7457 Posts
On November 22 2015 02:15 Nyxisto wrote: I'm not so convinced. I've also seen the first five episodes now and I think the show is a step down from Daredevil. Given the noir feel that the show is supposed to have there's way too much light everywhere, I don't get the 'dark' atmosphere at all. David Tennant is basically just an asshole in contrast to the Kingpin whose backstory was really well done in Daredevil and the constant PTSD flashbacks don't really do it for me. Up until now there's no human side to him at all. The show isn't doing much with the characters in general, the writing is a little disappointing. Also the sex scenes are starting to get a little silly. The actors are really well chosen though, they're all doing a good job. I have only watched first 5 episodes but I fully expect to see both Jessica's and Killgrave pasts to be shown at some point. Daredevil also showed them only after a while. | ||
BurningSera
Ireland19621 Posts
Will binge watch for the weekend now :D | ||
WolfintheSheep
Canada14127 Posts
From what I'm reading, the series really is that... | ||
Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On November 22 2015 07:22 WolfintheSheep wrote: My initial impression from hearing about this was that it would be a story from the bad tail-end of the edgy anti-hero 90's. Ultra angsty protagonist, flat villain who exists just to kill and torture people. From what I'm reading, the series really is that... She really isn't that angsty because she doesn't exist in the binary state of sad/not moving and not-sad/active. She is active, angry and sad at the same time. Its a show about getting over shit, rather than being sad until the music swells and than the hero is powerful again. The villain is the the type of person that can get whatever he wants and does just that. He is a person who likes to control others. | ||
deth2munkies
United States4051 Posts
On November 22 2015 07:22 WolfintheSheep wrote: My initial impression from hearing about this was that it would be a story from the bad tail-end of the edgy anti-hero 90's. Ultra angsty protagonist, flat villain who exists just to kill and torture people. From what I'm reading, the series really is that... Watch the damn thing. You have no fucking clue what you're talking about. | ||
WolfintheSheep
Canada14127 Posts
On November 22 2015 14:00 deth2munkies wrote: Show nested quote + On November 22 2015 07:22 WolfintheSheep wrote: My initial impression from hearing about this was that it would be a story from the bad tail-end of the edgy anti-hero 90's. Ultra angsty protagonist, flat villain who exists just to kill and torture people. From what I'm reading, the series really is that... Watch the damn thing. You have no fucking clue what you're talking about. Don't have Netflix, so I have to find out if it's a series to go out of my way for. | ||
deth2munkies
United States4051 Posts
On November 22 2015 14:34 WolfintheSheep wrote: Show nested quote + On November 22 2015 14:00 deth2munkies wrote: On November 22 2015 07:22 WolfintheSheep wrote: My initial impression from hearing about this was that it would be a story from the bad tail-end of the edgy anti-hero 90's. Ultra angsty protagonist, flat villain who exists just to kill and torture people. From what I'm reading, the series really is that... Watch the damn thing. You have no fucking clue what you're talking about. Don't have Netflix, so I have to find out if it's a series to go out of my way for. Netflix would be worth it even if the series was shit, and it isn't. | ||
paralleluniverse
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On November 22 2015 14:34 WolfintheSheep wrote: Show nested quote + On November 22 2015 14:00 deth2munkies wrote: On November 22 2015 07:22 WolfintheSheep wrote: My initial impression from hearing about this was that it would be a story from the bad tail-end of the edgy anti-hero 90's. Ultra angsty protagonist, flat villain who exists just to kill and torture people. From what I'm reading, the series really is that... Watch the damn thing. You have no fucking clue what you're talking about. Don't have Netflix, so I have to find out if it's a series to go out of my way for. New accounts get a free month of Netflix, which is enough to watch the entire series. | ||
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Croatia7457 Posts
On November 22 2015 14:34 WolfintheSheep wrote: Show nested quote + On November 22 2015 14:00 deth2munkies wrote: On November 22 2015 07:22 WolfintheSheep wrote: My initial impression from hearing about this was that it would be a story from the bad tail-end of the edgy anti-hero 90's. Ultra angsty protagonist, flat villain who exists just to kill and torture people. From what I'm reading, the series really is that... Watch the damn thing. You have no fucking clue what you're talking about. Don't have Netflix, so I have to find out if it's a series to go out of my way for. Well you always have swedish high seas highwayman as your option | ||
Snotling
Germany885 Posts
On November 22 2015 07:22 WolfintheSheep wrote: My initial impression from hearing about this was that it would be a story from the bad tail-end of the edgy anti-hero 90's. Ultra angsty protagonist, flat villain who exists just to kill and torture people. From what I'm reading, the series really is that... The villain actually gets a lot more depth trough out the season, how the good guys deal with him is the bad part..... | ||
ivancype
Brazil485 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + First 8 episodes really good, the last 5 i think could be condensed in just 2. But it went back to really good by the end of the last episode. | ||
BurningSera
Ireland19621 Posts
On November 22 2015 19:58 ivancype wrote: Good show, but... + Show Spoiler + First 8 episodes really good, the last 5 i think could be condensed in just 2. But it went back to really good by the end of the last episode. damn it i have the feeling that will happen (again), just like Dareddevil. I finished #3, the director definitely gets better since Dareddevil, the pacing is so smooth, love the small side stories like the neighbours, the broken door, the cockroach (rofl), + Show Spoiler + her relation with luke cage is cool so far (but the way she killed his wife is rather cliche). and for the villian, i cringed so hard to see + Show Spoiler + dr. who | ||
Snotling
Germany885 Posts
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IAmWithStupid
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Kipsate
Netherlands45349 Posts
David Tennant is a god. Trish and Jessica have great on-screen chemistry, like the characters. Lucas is w/e right now, can't really fit him in yet, seems interesting though. Seeing women kick ass is cool. Interestingly enough (maybe I just dont notice) this is one of the first shows where I see people regulary having their smartphones getting charged, in other shows they always pick up their phone after being asleep and its not being charged. Realistically phones run out of battery after a day and people p much always put them in the charger before the next day. I have no idea why that amuses me so. | ||
KwarK
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karazax
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TheTenthDoc
United States9561 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + Jessica not remembering that she has people from the restaurant that can attest to being mind-controlled and then telling the police officer that he should forget ever having been mind controlled, despite them being great witnesses for Hope. I suspect her attitude is "I can't ask anyone to testify for Hope until Kilgrave is behind bars since they'll be in danger." But still, tell them you might want their help in the future at least. Otherwise they might step forward themselves and die anyway. And she wanted that doctor guy to testify... Also not telling Luke that Kilgrave exists is questionable. I hope she tells him once she realizes she's being tailed so aggressively, even if it does mean admitting she shoryuken'd his wife. I do find it hilariously immersion-breaking how whether or not Jessica's shirt comes off during sex depends entirely on the camera angles they are using but I guess that's what you have to do to keep the Marvel logo and a decent lead actress. | ||
Velr
Switzerland10415 Posts
On November 22 2015 23:33 Snotling wrote: Its one of these shows were I'm constantly asking myself how many dumb descitions the main characters can make in a row.... This. It was enjoyable but i liked Daredevil better. It just never really grabbed me (but a hangover and a 2 Screen Computer make you still binge stuff ). The by FAR best thing about this is the Villain, i think with another/worse Villain this show would be plain boring. Daredevil also just looks better/darker and has WAY better Action Scenes. I do find it hilariously immersion-breaking how whether or not Jessica's shirt comes off during sex depends entirely on the camera angles they are using but I guess that's what you have to do to keep the Marvel logo and a decent lead actress This so much. If they do "sex" like this, they should just cut it out alltogether, also "Need the Bathroom after sex... Better Dress up first!"... Its probably more the Marvel-Logo than the actress(es) | ||
ImDrizzt
Norway427 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + In terms of the fighting scenes, that's where I have most critique, they are just bland and mostly boring. They do a poor job at capturing her strength, and it's all over the place. On one hand she's so strong it's stupid, in other, you can tell she's just a normal person, and you get a more theatrical performance. I don't like that shit (stuff like, get pushed over by a weak woman, can't stop the black guy walking forward, but in the heat of the moment, one hand, and holds of the momentum of a car). And when she's throwing guys around, most of the time it looks like they're doing that fake shit they do in exhibitions!! As a series, it's rly good, but as for the fighting scenes etc, camera angles n stuff, it's way below Daredevil. My 2 cents | ||
KwarK
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AngryMag
Germany1040 Posts
In my opinion the writing is very subpar. The plot often needs to get pushed by the main character making stupid decisions with better writing many of these situations could have been avoided. Next point is the lack of focus. Has a bit of dark tune to it but the adolescent romance scenes destroy that. Imo it would have been better to go for the dark, cynical theme or shoot towards an adolescent audience completely . Now we have a bit of both with both being subpar. As others already pointed out, the fighting scenes are just not good, Ritter is not up for the job physically (the scenes aren't shot well either but that is another thing) and this is just not acceptable. You can fail in the execution but failing in the basic requirement is just a big no no. Credit can be given for the relatively innovative darker theme and bringing up diffcult topics but imo the nagatives of lack of focus, bad writing and bad action scenes outweigh that. Not my cup of tea. | ||
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Croatia7457 Posts
On November 24 2015 00:23 KwarK wrote: I would love to see a 100lb woman with super strength in a world with proper physics so her pushing things had an equal and opposite reaction. If we accept that she has a reinforced body that could survive the internal stresses caused by the use of her strength she should still continually send herself flying. When she uses her super strength on the ground physics works and she is propelled high into the air, it'd be very amusing if punches had the same effect. Very bad for the show as she would constantly be trying to find immovable objects to brace herself against, but funny. Depends on how her strength works. Since she has no visible muscles, it is probably more about generating and directing kinetic energy with her mind automatically without thinking. As such she could control it so it flows one way only. It would also explain her jumping. She generates bursts of energy in one way. Every time she used it, it was always one way. We never see her do weight lifting with impossible amounts. She is always pushing, pulling or punching. | ||
Plansix
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BurningSera
Ireland19621 Posts
On November 24 2015 00:59 AngryMag wrote: Watched the first 4 Episodes and decided to quit. In my opinion the writing is very subpar. The plot often needs to get pushed by the main character making stupid decisions with better writing many of these situations could have been avoided. Next point is the lack of focus. Has a bit of dark tune to it but the adolescent romance scenes destroy that. Imo it would have been better to go for the dark, cynical theme or shoot towards an adolescent audience completely . Now we have a bit of both with both being subpar. As others already pointed out, the fighting scenes are just not good, Ritter is not up for the job physically (the scenes aren't shot well either but that is another thing) and this is just not acceptable. You can fail in the execution but failing in the basic requirement is just a big no no. Credit can be given for the relatively innovative darker theme and bringing up diffcult topics but imo the nagatives of lack of focus, bad writing and bad action scenes outweigh that. Not my cup of tea. I quit too after episode 6, such a shame i thought the first 3 episodes look really promising. Episode 6 really made me laugh + Show Spoiler + when they let kilgrave go just like that, you would imagine someone like kilgrave would have caused massive havoc in modern society by now, but nope, he just wants a pic of some girl every day and shouting everyone to quiet in some cafe..... lack of focus etc, bad fighting scene really made me wonder why is she even a super hero and why should i bother continue watching. | ||
Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On November 24 2015 01:35 BurningSera wrote: Show nested quote + On November 24 2015 00:59 AngryMag wrote: Watched the first 4 Episodes and decided to quit. In my opinion the writing is very subpar. The plot often needs to get pushed by the main character making stupid decisions with better writing many of these situations could have been avoided. Next point is the lack of focus. Has a bit of dark tune to it but the adolescent romance scenes destroy that. Imo it would have been better to go for the dark, cynical theme or shoot towards an adolescent audience completely . Now we have a bit of both with both being subpar. As others already pointed out, the fighting scenes are just not good, Ritter is not up for the job physically (the scenes aren't shot well either but that is another thing) and this is just not acceptable. You can fail in the execution but failing in the basic requirement is just a big no no. Credit can be given for the relatively innovative darker theme and bringing up diffcult topics but imo the nagatives of lack of focus, bad writing and bad action scenes outweigh that. Not my cup of tea. I quit too after episode 6, such a shame i thought the first 3 episodes look really promising. Episode 6 really made me laugh + Show Spoiler + when they let kilgrave go just like that, you would imagine someone like kilgrave would have caused massive havoc in modern society by now, but nope, he just wants a pic of some girl every day and shouting everyone to quiet in some cafe..... lack of focus etc, bad fighting scene really made me wonder why is she even a super hero and why should i bother continue watching. Just to point out that Kilgrave exist in a world with Ironman and the Avengers. So he is very invested in keeping a low profile and really only wants Jessica. There is literally nothing he could do against Ironman or if Shield found him. | ||
AngryMag
Germany1040 Posts
On November 24 2015 01:35 BurningSera wrote: Show nested quote + On November 24 2015 00:59 AngryMag wrote: Watched the first 4 Episodes and decided to quit. In my opinion the writing is very subpar. The plot often needs to get pushed by the main character making stupid decisions with better writing many of these situations could have been avoided. Next point is the lack of focus. Has a bit of dark tune to it but the adolescent romance scenes destroy that. Imo it would have been better to go for the dark, cynical theme or shoot towards an adolescent audience completely . Now we have a bit of both with both being subpar. As others already pointed out, the fighting scenes are just not good, Ritter is not up for the job physically (the scenes aren't shot well either but that is another thing) and this is just not acceptable. You can fail in the execution but failing in the basic requirement is just a big no no. Credit can be given for the relatively innovative darker theme and bringing up diffcult topics but imo the nagatives of lack of focus, bad writing and bad action scenes outweigh that. Not my cup of tea. I quit too after episode 6, such a shame i thought the first 3 episodes look really promising. Episode 6 really made me laugh + Show Spoiler + when they let kilgrave go just like that, you would imagine someone like kilgrave would have caused massive havoc in modern society by now, but nope, he just wants a pic of some girl every day and shouting everyone to quiet in some cafe..... lack of focus etc, bad fighting scene really made me wonder why is she even a super hero and why should i bother continue watching. Yeah I agree. In Series you can forget some scenes that get executed pretty weak since they run for hours and hours. Even ATG shows like The Wire or Breaking Bad have episodes with clear weaknesses but overall the positive impression keeps being the dominant one. But stuff like the super hero just not being physically fit enough to pull of halfway decent action scenes and constant subpar writing just takes immersion and positive potential away, so that it isn't enough to create a positive overall impression. We'll surely get more Netflix projects in the future and I will surely be on board for the next one again | ||
Velr
Switzerland10415 Posts
If they want to show her superstrenght, well... It would certainly help if people she punches or throws stay down instead of getting up again several times. She can stop a car with her hands but people have no Problem eating several of her punches (except when it was needed for her drama). Let her "crush" arms/legs/whatever by just grappling/squelching... Why does she throw people around? She doesn't have some moral problem hurting people, so why did they insist on making these stupid fighting scenes were everybody has several lives? Daredevil also has this, but daredevil has no superstrenght therefore it was "ok". He actually got hurt and it seemed to influence him way more than it did Jessica. The fights in DD were just way more entertaining and better shot in general... + Show Spoiler + The fight with Luke Cage, which was clearly going to happen as soon as they introduced him, was also just boring... I just tought, she would somehow get away from him/he loses her, but then they went full retard and let a shotgun blast knock him out... Guy survived a damn gas explosion whiteout even hurting a bit). | ||
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Croatia7457 Posts
On November 24 2015 01:35 BurningSera wrote: Show nested quote + On November 24 2015 00:59 AngryMag wrote: Watched the first 4 Episodes and decided to quit. In my opinion the writing is very subpar. The plot often needs to get pushed by the main character making stupid decisions with better writing many of these situations could have been avoided. Next point is the lack of focus. Has a bit of dark tune to it but the adolescent romance scenes destroy that. Imo it would have been better to go for the dark, cynical theme or shoot towards an adolescent audience completely . Now we have a bit of both with both being subpar. As others already pointed out, the fighting scenes are just not good, Ritter is not up for the job physically (the scenes aren't shot well either but that is another thing) and this is just not acceptable. You can fail in the execution but failing in the basic requirement is just a big no no. Credit can be given for the relatively innovative darker theme and bringing up diffcult topics but imo the nagatives of lack of focus, bad writing and bad action scenes outweigh that. Not my cup of tea. I quit too after episode 6, such a shame i thought the first 3 episodes look really promising. Episode 6 really made me laugh + Show Spoiler + when they let kilgrave go just like that, you would imagine someone like kilgrave would have caused massive havoc in modern society by now, but nope, he just wants a pic of some girl every day and shouting everyone to quiet in some cafe..... lack of focus etc, bad fighting scene really made me wonder why is she even a super hero and why should i bother continue watching. As was said Kilgrave would get demolished by SHIELD or even Hydra fast. Ironman would just shut down the sound so he cannot hear him and then knock him out in one blast. Thor probably cannot even be controlled by him and Hulk rage usually also resists non magical control. His power only lasts about 12h and he leaves a trail of witness behind him who remember everything. As for ep 6 + Show Spoiler + They didn't let him go, his security saved him. Or am I a forgetting some other scene where they had him. Also kilgrave is not smart enough to rule america even if his power was stronger Well she is not a superhero, just a normal untrained person with powers that runs into someone stronger that enjoys torturing her. | ||
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Croatia7457 Posts
On November 24 2015 01:53 Velr wrote: The Thing is, the fighting Scenes are just bad. If they want to show her superstrenght, well... It would certainly help if people she punches or throws stay down instead of getting up again several times. She can stop a car with her hands but people have no Problem eating several of her punches (except when it was needed for her drama). Let her "crush" arms/legs/whatever by just grappling/squelching... Why does she throw people around? She doesn't have some moral problem hurting people, so why did they insist on making these stupid fighting scenes were everybody has several lives? Daredevil also has this, but daredevil has no superstrenght therefore it was "ok". He actually got hurt and it seemed to influence him way more than it did Jessica. The fights in DD were just way more entertaining and better shot in general... She does not punch people with full power so to kill them. Or grab them strong enough to crush their limbs. And if anything was shown it was shown that she very much has a moral problem around seriously hurting people. More about fighting + Show Spoiler + Also you didn't pay attention, when she fights ordinally mind controlled people she pushes them once and they go to sleep after hitting something. The security Kilgrave hired were all big strong men. Pushing them around should not knock them out easily, especially since it was on the street and they didn't hit anything but the ground. Of course I only watched first 7 ep so many later there are stupid fighting scenes DD fights are better because DD is a fucking ninja with superpowers. And he fights other ninjas (some of the time). JJ is just a girl with superstrenght, some more durability and no training whatsoever. When she teams up with DD, maybe he can train her a bit | ||
BurningSera
Ireland19621 Posts
On November 24 2015 02:45 -Archangel- wrote: Show nested quote + On November 24 2015 01:35 BurningSera wrote: On November 24 2015 00:59 AngryMag wrote: Watched the first 4 Episodes and decided to quit. In my opinion the writing is very subpar. The plot often needs to get pushed by the main character making stupid decisions with better writing many of these situations could have been avoided. Next point is the lack of focus. Has a bit of dark tune to it but the adolescent romance scenes destroy that. Imo it would have been better to go for the dark, cynical theme or shoot towards an adolescent audience completely . Now we have a bit of both with both being subpar. As others already pointed out, the fighting scenes are just not good, Ritter is not up for the job physically (the scenes aren't shot well either but that is another thing) and this is just not acceptable. You can fail in the execution but failing in the basic requirement is just a big no no. Credit can be given for the relatively innovative darker theme and bringing up diffcult topics but imo the nagatives of lack of focus, bad writing and bad action scenes outweigh that. Not my cup of tea. I quit too after episode 6, such a shame i thought the first 3 episodes look really promising. Episode 6 really made me laugh + Show Spoiler + when they let kilgrave go just like that, you would imagine someone like kilgrave would have caused massive havoc in modern society by now, but nope, he just wants a pic of some girl every day and shouting everyone to quiet in some cafe..... lack of focus etc, bad fighting scene really made me wonder why is she even a super hero and why should i bother continue watching. As was said Kilgrave would get demolished by SHIELD or even Hydra fast. Ironman would just shut down the sound so he cannot hear him and then knock him out in one blast. Thor probably cannot even be controlled by him and Hulk rage usually also resists non magical control. His power only lasts about 12h and he leaves a trail of witness behind him who remember everything. As for ep 6 + Show Spoiler + They didn't let him go, his security saved him. Or am I a forgetting some other scene where they had him. Also kilgrave is not smart enough to rule america even if his power was stronger Well she is not a superhero, just a normal untrained person with powers that runs into someone stronger that enjoys torturing her. Thanks for some info there, i didnt know how long his power lasts haha but that was more or less my points: the writing simply is not up to the standard to support a 'not so super hero' super hero, especially since JJ won't get the redeeming feature of having good fighting scenes like DD. Unless they somehow use Luke Cage for that in the later episodes but i bet they didn't. The first 4 episodes really look like they are going to sell me a detective-like cool chick who kicks asses (or get kicked, from time to time), tell me about her stories etc, in a dark tone/world setting. Still a fan of this team behind DD, JJ, will see what can they come up with next. | ||
DanceSC
United States751 Posts
They added too much political shit, went overboard with the lesbian drama, dragged out the last couple of episodes way to much, and the ruined a potentially awesome ending + Show Spoiler + Nurse tells LC that she knows a good attorney | ||
Manit0u
Poland17046 Posts
I loved Daredevil, did not care for Jessica Jones :/ I'll finish the series. It's OK but not spectacular in any way. I'm just hoping they won't ruin The Punisher (DeKnight is pushing Marvel to make it hard-R rating). | ||
Plansix
United States60190 Posts
Really, JJ needs DD's fight choreography next season. And DD needs JJ's writing talent. | ||
-Archangel-
Croatia7457 Posts
On November 24 2015 23:31 Plansix wrote: I liked DD for the action and characters, but the writing was terrible. Like slightly above middle school notebook bad. "I need to be the man the city needs" and "We are alot alike, you and I" are two of the lines that comic book movies and TV need to stop using. And the lines about "the man I love becoming blah blah blah Grimdark" JJ has much better writing and deals with more difficult concepts like rape and trauma. Really, JJ needs DD's fight choreography next season. And DD needs JJ's writing talent. Not just choreography, DD have awesome camera shots like when he is slowly getting up from the ground with blood spilling from his mouth and strong rain falling all around. | ||
Plansix
United States60190 Posts
Both series have their merits, IMO. Liked them both, expect for the very end of DD. And useless flipping. | ||
Velr
Switzerland10415 Posts
On November 24 2015 23:50 Plansix wrote: That was the first thing I heard about JJ vs DD, that the cinematography was better in DD by quite a bit. But that writting and some of the acting was pretty blah. And that last action scene on the sound stage trying so hard to look like a street at night....... Both series have their merits, IMO. Liked them both, expect for the very end of DD. And useless flipping. Rofl, yeah the uselss flipping :D. But the cinematography in DD is not "a bit" better, its leagues above, but thats not because JJ is bad or anything, DD was imho just really spectacular in that area. JJ has the better underlying theme, i agree, but it somehow just fails in using it because characters/stuff tends to just allways act in a way that is extremly convenient to keep the story going. + Show Spoiler + Support Group suddenly goes mental just for the shits of it, what? They went from Jessica is awesome to lets kick her ass (so purpleman can get away)? Electric cable breaks exactly when it shouldn't (so purple man can get away)? Private secret Service, with absolutely no moral compass, which is at least a bit unlikely when you think about the shit purpleman does all the time, is immediatly there once they kidnap him and they win against Jessica because, else we could skip ~2-3 episodes to end up at the same place we end up anyway (so purpleman can get away)? Simpson doesn’t shoot Purpleman and instead decides to blow up the whole house (so purpleman can get away)? The show just runs away from its own conclusion a bit too much. It kinda feels as if there are 2-3 Episodes too much. Don’t get me wrong, its still a nice show and leagues above Arrow/Flash Btw : What about the 2 Kids he sent into the closet? | ||
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KwarK
United States40776 Posts
On November 25 2015 01:11 Velr wrote: Show nested quote + On November 24 2015 23:50 Plansix wrote: That was the first thing I heard about JJ vs DD, that the cinematography was better in DD by quite a bit. But that writting and some of the acting was pretty blah. And that last action scene on the sound stage trying so hard to look like a street at night....... Both series have their merits, IMO. Liked them both, expect for the very end of DD. And useless flipping. Rofl, yeah the uselss flipping :D. But the cinematography in DD is not "a bit" better, its leagues above, but thats not because JJ is bad or anything, DD was imho just really spectacular in that area. JJ has the better underlying theme, i agree, but it somehow just fails in using it because characters/stuff tends to just allways act in a way that is extremly convenient to keep the story going. + Show Spoiler + Support Group suddenly goes mental just for the shits of it, what? They went from Jessica is awesome to lets kick her ass (so purpleman can get away)? Electric cable breaks exactly when it shouldn't (so purple man can get away)? Private secret Service, with absolutely no moral compass, which is at least a bit unlikely when you think about the shit purpleman does all the time, is immediatly there once they kidnap him and they win against Jessica because, else we could skip ~2-3 episodes to end up at the same place we end up anyway (so purpleman can get away)? Simpson doesn’t shoot Purpleman and instead decides to blow up the whole house (so purpleman can get away)? The show just runs away from its own conclusion a bit too much. It kinda feels as if there are 2-3 Episodes too much. Don’t get me wrong, its still a nice show and leagues above Arrow/Flash Btw : What about the 2 Kids he sent into the closet? Cable didn't break, Trinity cut it. | ||
Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On November 25 2015 02:00 KwarK wrote: Show nested quote + On November 25 2015 01:11 Velr wrote: On November 24 2015 23:50 Plansix wrote: That was the first thing I heard about JJ vs DD, that the cinematography was better in DD by quite a bit. But that writting and some of the acting was pretty blah. And that last action scene on the sound stage trying so hard to look like a street at night....... Both series have their merits, IMO. Liked them both, expect for the very end of DD. And useless flipping. Rofl, yeah the uselss flipping :D. But the cinematography in DD is not "a bit" better, its leagues above, but thats not because JJ is bad or anything, DD was imho just really spectacular in that area. JJ has the better underlying theme, i agree, but it somehow just fails in using it because characters/stuff tends to just allways act in a way that is extremly convenient to keep the story going. + Show Spoiler + Support Group suddenly goes mental just for the shits of it, what? They went from Jessica is awesome to lets kick her ass (so purpleman can get away)? Electric cable breaks exactly when it shouldn't (so purple man can get away)? Private secret Service, with absolutely no moral compass, which is at least a bit unlikely when you think about the shit purpleman does all the time, is immediatly there once they kidnap him and they win against Jessica because, else we could skip ~2-3 episodes to end up at the same place we end up anyway (so purpleman can get away)? Simpson doesn’t shoot Purpleman and instead decides to blow up the whole house (so purpleman can get away)? The show just runs away from its own conclusion a bit too much. It kinda feels as if there are 2-3 Episodes too much. Don’t get me wrong, its still a nice show and leagues above Arrow/Flash Btw : What about the 2 Kids he sent into the closet? Cable didn't break, Trinity cut it. Also Simpson tried to make the explosion look like a gas leak, not straight up murder. | ||
Manit0u
Poland17046 Posts
When it comes to recent comic book > TV series adaptations it definitely goes like that for me: DD > Gotham > JJ Not sure where to place Arrow. It got me really hooked for the first season but then it kind of fell off the radar for me. Flash never hooked me in the first place. Was there anything else? | ||
TheTenthDoc
United States9561 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + Simpson deciding to blow up all the evidence and kill the old cop because plot convenience and Khorne demanded it and + Show Spoiler + the whole vaccine thing being completely pointless (though admittedly having the father playing the long con would have been a bit easy for the audience to guess) I suspect both of these are actually results of script rewrites but I guess we'll never know. Oh, and + Show Spoiler + Trish deciding to shoot Kilgrave...through the hermetically sealed chamber...for some reason, even though the only way that could possibly end well is with an instant kill shot that might not even save the people in the room. | ||
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deth2munkies
United States4051 Posts
On November 25 2015 03:03 Manit0u wrote: Also most of the characters aren't likeable at all... I'd also like to see more detecting on JJ's part instead of throwing tantrums most of the time. When it comes to recent comic book > TV series adaptations it definitely goes like that for me: DD > Gotham > JJ Not sure where to place Arrow. It got me really hooked for the first season but then it kind of fell off the radar for me. Flash never hooked me in the first place. Was there anything else? Arrow doesn't make any fucking sense and has no sense of pacing. They just kinda do whatever they want when they want. It's a decent binge, but it's horrible to watch week to week. I was never a fan of Gotham at all, I only watched a couple of episodes, but it just seemed to me like a bunch of boring shit waiting for name drops of Batman villains. The thing that Jessica Jones did really well IMO was accurately portraying somebody with PTSD and how it fucks with all parts of your life and can ruin relationships and your ability to relate to people. Some people want their heroes to be either super heroic or super badass/shades/don'tlookatexplosions type, and she doesn't fit neatly in either. | ||
Plansix
United States60190 Posts
Its cool that super hero shows don't have to be about fighting all the time and the hero can just be someone who is a little stronger than everyone else. Plus the fact the she is a women that lives a shitty section of New York with her door unlocked and broken sets up everything about the character. | ||
ImDrizzt
Norway427 Posts
On November 24 2015 01:35 BurningSera wrote: Show nested quote + On November 24 2015 00:59 AngryMag wrote: Watched the first 4 Episodes and decided to quit. In my opinion the writing is very subpar. The plot often needs to get pushed by the main character making stupid decisions with better writing many of these situations could have been avoided. Next point is the lack of focus. Has a bit of dark tune to it but the adolescent romance scenes destroy that. Imo it would have been better to go for the dark, cynical theme or shoot towards an adolescent audience completely . Now we have a bit of both with both being subpar. As others already pointed out, the fighting scenes are just not good, Ritter is not up for the job physically (the scenes aren't shot well either but that is another thing) and this is just not acceptable. You can fail in the execution but failing in the basic requirement is just a big no no. Credit can be given for the relatively innovative darker theme and bringing up diffcult topics but imo the nagatives of lack of focus, bad writing and bad action scenes outweigh that. Not my cup of tea. I quit too after episode 6, such a shame i thought the first 3 episodes look really promising. Episode 6 really made me laugh + Show Spoiler + when they let kilgrave go just like that, you would imagine someone like kilgrave would have caused massive havoc in modern society by now, but nope, he just wants a pic of some girl every day and shouting everyone to quiet in some cafe..... lack of focus etc, bad fighting scene really made me wonder why is she even a super hero and why should i bother continue watching. Nah, doesn't get better, after ive seen em all, i have it like a 6, too much shit toward the end. Has it moments, but it's not a great one. My take on it | ||
The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + The whole Luke trying to find the murderer of his wife with the end of her telling him, it was just bad. The execution was poor and i felt for the first time like this was some network show. Let's see if it gets better again. | ||
ETisME
12082 Posts
Jessica Jones on the other hand, the villain was super solid and the actress acted out her character so very well | ||
-Archangel-
Croatia7457 Posts
On November 25 2015 04:12 TheTenthDoc wrote: The two things that ended up bothering me plot wise were + Show Spoiler + Simpson deciding to blow up all the evidence and kill the old cop because plot convenience and Khorne demanded it and + Show Spoiler + the whole vaccine thing being completely pointless (though admittedly having the father playing the long con would have been a bit easy for the audience to guess) I suspect both of these are actually results of script rewrites but I guess we'll never know. Oh, and + Show Spoiler + Trish deciding to shoot Kilgrave...through the hermetically sealed chamber...for some reason, even though the only way that could possibly end well is with an instant kill shot that might not even save the people in the room. + Show Spoiler + - Simpson was on some nasty drugs. - vaccine allowed Kilgrave to do nasty mass control he did and give a challenge to JJ without being able to control her directly - she was using emotions to act, which is how most humans react in crisis. Only trained and experienced people can keep cool heads in such situations | ||
TheTenthDoc
United States9561 Posts
On December 01 2015 01:20 -Archangel- wrote: Show nested quote + On November 25 2015 04:12 TheTenthDoc wrote: The two things that ended up bothering me plot wise were + Show Spoiler + Simpson deciding to blow up all the evidence and kill the old cop because plot convenience and Khorne demanded it and + Show Spoiler + the whole vaccine thing being completely pointless (though admittedly having the father playing the long con would have been a bit easy for the audience to guess) I suspect both of these are actually results of script rewrites but I guess we'll never know. Oh, and + Show Spoiler + Trish deciding to shoot Kilgrave...through the hermetically sealed chamber...for some reason, even though the only way that could possibly end well is with an instant kill shot that might not even save the people in the room. + Show Spoiler + - Simpson was on some nasty drugs. - vaccine allowed Kilgrave to do nasty mass control he did and give a challenge to JJ without being able to control her directly - she was using emotions to act, which is how most humans react in crisis. Only trained and experienced people can keep cool heads in such situations + Show Spoiler + "Nasty drugs" = "plot convenience." Tomato, tomato. 0 precedence for the drugs making him do that before the scene, 0 evidence after the scene that it would make him do that. The only people he kills because of the drugs afterwards are a direct threat to him, not a fellow cop who was handcuffed to a wall and broke his own wrist. Maybe it's some other MCU canon, I dunno. The vaccine didn't allow that, his parents causing his powers did. The vaccine could have never been mentioned and the show would have played out exactly the same. It was completely irrelevant. I don't think any combination of emotions would make me shoot a guy through a chamber I know is airtight, removing the airtightness and giving him complete control over the entire room, when you could just wait and shoot him after he tries to leave the bloody place, but maybe that's just me. That crosses the line from emotions to plot-induced stupidity. That she doesn't blame herself for it afterwards like she blamed herself for the tazing boggles the mind as well. Still, it's a comic book show, so it's okay for it to have a few moments that leave me scratching my head and pointless plot threads. | ||
Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On November 30 2015 01:24 ETisME wrote: I like it way more than dare devil, possibly because dare devil life is basically the usual day job as something, night job as "hero" thing. Jessica Jones on the other hand, the villain was super solid and the actress acted out her character so very well As someone who works in the legal field, DD had the most passive, non-work intensive law firm ever created. Its sole purpose seemed to be “This next case will be our spring off to the next plot point”. Which is also how it is used in JJ, tbh. But TV law is always at the level of TV computer hacking. | ||
DickMcFanny
Ireland1076 Posts
Agents of Shield: oh god what crap, quid after 1,5 episodes. Gotham: saw 10 episodes, was bored to tears Daredevil: loved it, actually Arrow: I thought it was a parody at first, really awful show Jessica Jones: Could the show not be focused on the villain who actually has an interesting super power? | ||
-Archangel-
Croatia7457 Posts
On December 01 2015 01:30 TheTenthDoc wrote: Show nested quote + On December 01 2015 01:20 -Archangel- wrote: On November 25 2015 04:12 TheTenthDoc wrote: The two things that ended up bothering me plot wise were + Show Spoiler + Simpson deciding to blow up all the evidence and kill the old cop because plot convenience and Khorne demanded it and + Show Spoiler + the whole vaccine thing being completely pointless (though admittedly having the father playing the long con would have been a bit easy for the audience to guess) I suspect both of these are actually results of script rewrites but I guess we'll never know. Oh, and + Show Spoiler + Trish deciding to shoot Kilgrave...through the hermetically sealed chamber...for some reason, even though the only way that could possibly end well is with an instant kill shot that might not even save the people in the room. + Show Spoiler + - Simpson was on some nasty drugs. - vaccine allowed Kilgrave to do nasty mass control he did and give a challenge to JJ without being able to control her directly - she was using emotions to act, which is how most humans react in crisis. Only trained and experienced people can keep cool heads in such situations + Show Spoiler + "Nasty drugs" = "plot convenience." Tomato, tomato. 0 precedence for the drugs making him do that before the scene, 0 evidence after the scene that it would make him do that. The only people he kills because of the drugs afterwards are a direct threat to him, not a fellow cop who was handcuffed to a wall and broke his own wrist. Maybe it's some other MCU canon, I dunno. The vaccine didn't allow that, his parents causing his powers did. The vaccine could have never been mentioned and the show would have played out exactly the same. It was completely irrelevant. I don't think any combination of emotions would make me shoot a guy through a chamber I know is airtight, removing the airtightness and giving him complete control over the entire room, when you could just wait and shoot him after he tries to leave the bloody place, but maybe that's just me. That crosses the line from emotions to plot-induced stupidity. That she doesn't blame herself for it afterwards like she blamed herself for the tazing boggles the mind as well. Still, it's a comic book show, so it's okay for it to have a few moments that leave me scratching my head and pointless plot threads. + Show Spoiler + - It was shown it changes his behaviour, makes him prone to choose violent and less smart options. The cop was a threat to his plan to kill Kilgrave instead of arresting him. You can call it whatever but it seems to me like you don't understand what you are watching - really.. did you even watch this show? Vaccine was there so JJ would get his father into his hands, otherwise those two people would never get close enough to give us cool moments of the show when he is captured and his mother surprises us with knife attempt at his life. Later with father in his hands, Kilgrave is able to increase his powers and gives a better end battle. Only reason why Kilgrave survived previous encounters with JJ was because she didn't want to kill him and he knew he had to become stronger to stand a chance vs her. - You don't know what your emotions would make you do in a similar situation. Were you even in life and death situation (for you or other people you cared about) and did you react with cool head with only few seconds to make a right decision? Trish wanted to save his mother and father, waiting would make sure they died first as well as JJ going inside at the time they didn't know he could not control her anymore. | ||
-Archangel-
Croatia7457 Posts
On December 01 2015 02:04 DickMcFanny wrote: Ugh, I'm starting to think I don't like Superhero shows. Agents of Shield: oh god what crap, quid after 1,5 episodes. Gotham: saw 10 episodes, was bored to tears Daredevil: loved it, actually Arrow: I thought it was a parody at first, really awful show Jessica Jones: Could the show not be focused on the villain who actually has an interesting super power? Kilgrave powers were very interesting to me. And the way he used them to mind fuck JJ with innocents getting hurt if she does not listen was very cool. + Show Spoiler + And that suicide neighbour was wtf :D | ||
Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On December 01 2015 02:30 -Archangel- wrote: Show nested quote + On December 01 2015 02:04 DickMcFanny wrote: Ugh, I'm starting to think I don't like Superhero shows. Agents of Shield: oh god what crap, quid after 1,5 episodes. Gotham: saw 10 episodes, was bored to tears Daredevil: loved it, actually Arrow: I thought it was a parody at first, really awful show Jessica Jones: Could the show not be focused on the villain who actually has an interesting super power? Kilgrave powers were very interesting to me. And the way he used them to mind fuck JJ with innocents getting hurt if she does not listen was very cool. + Show Spoiler + And that suicide neighbour was wtf :D His power was a need take on mind control because it allowed him to layer commands and triggers nearly endlessly. And the fact that there was no way to tell someone was being controlled unless and they retained agency unless the triggered made him terrifying. Only a street level villain, but a good one for the power level of JJ and DD. | ||
DickMcFanny
Ireland1076 Posts
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On December 01 2015 03:08 DickMcFanny wrote: I might have phrased that poorly, I liked the villain and I would have preferred the show to be about him instead of the super hero who had just awfully boring powers. Jessica Jones as never been about her powers, comics or otherwise. The show is about a woman who sleeps with her door open and unlocked in the shittest part of NYC and the one person that woman is afraid of. All of the street level heroes have pretty low end powers and its more about their efforts to deal with real crime. The show was never going to be what you wanted. | ||
-Archangel-
Croatia7457 Posts
On December 01 2015 03:08 DickMcFanny wrote: I might have phrased that poorly, I liked the villain and I would have preferred the show to be about him instead of the super hero who had just awfully boring powers. I am not sure the public is ready to watch a psychopath as main character :D | ||
DickMcFanny
Ireland1076 Posts
On December 01 2015 04:29 -Archangel- wrote: Show nested quote + On December 01 2015 03:08 DickMcFanny wrote: I might have phrased that poorly, I liked the villain and I would have preferred the show to be about him instead of the super hero who had just awfully boring powers. I am not sure the public is ready to watch a psychopath as main character :D Dexter was pretty popular. | ||
Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On December 01 2015 04:33 DickMcFanny wrote: Show nested quote + On December 01 2015 04:29 -Archangel- wrote: On December 01 2015 03:08 DickMcFanny wrote: I might have phrased that poorly, I liked the villain and I would have preferred the show to be about him instead of the super hero who had just awfully boring powers. I am not sure the public is ready to watch a psychopath as main character :D Dexter was pretty popular. He also didn’t rape anyone, killed other killers and the show was set up to be a story about a serial killer. Not really Marvel’s area. | ||
Little-Chimp
Canada948 Posts
Ending spoilers: + Show Spoiler + not a fan of how Killgrave was ultimately dealt with... the show could have been about underdogs finding out a way to deal with killgraves overpowered ability, but instead Jessica ends up immune, even all the way to the end where he goes super Killgrave. She ended up looking like a fool at every turn despite having the complete power advantage. | ||
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Croatia7457 Posts
On December 01 2015 04:33 DickMcFanny wrote: Show nested quote + On December 01 2015 04:29 -Archangel- wrote: On December 01 2015 03:08 DickMcFanny wrote: I might have phrased that poorly, I liked the villain and I would have preferred the show to be about him instead of the super hero who had just awfully boring powers. I am not sure the public is ready to watch a psychopath as main character :D Dexter was pretty popular. Dexter was not a villain. He is more like Punisher or Wolverine but with no powers and less combat skills. And more personal reason to kill. | ||
Acrofales
Spain17186 Posts
For me, the quality of the series went up every time there was a lot of Killgrave... he was an interesting character doing inventive things. The rest were all fairly bland. | ||
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The_Red_Viper
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I had some problems with some of the writing and directing here and there, but nothing too huge. If i had to give it a score it would be around 7/10 | ||
PoP
France15446 Posts
Thought Daredevil was much, much better overall. | ||
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Jibba
United States22883 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + I thought it was pretty refreshing how it handled each scenario and how Kilgrave kept managing to escape, depriving the viewer of that satisfaction until the end. They also made great use of his power. They tried all the teamwork/diversion stuff and it didn't work. Ultimately it just took JJ standing up and controlling him. She didn't need some big "Aha!" to beat him. I agree that the Simpson/Kozlov stuff didn't seem full fledged enough and didn't make much sense. Like, why did Simpson need to take two red pills to protect himself from the two mysterious spec ops members if he just planned on shooting them? And shouldn't they have been better prepared for him? I'm also worried about Luke Cage getting his own show at this point. He's not the dullest character in the MCU but he's not worthy of his own show. Also, I think the twins were a waste of screen time and irritating. At first they seemed like comic relief, but they kept devoting time to the annoying sister, who was portrayed so well that I just wanted her killed/ignored for the rest of the show. Overall, I liked it more than DD because of the psychological aspects. I thought it was more thoughtful and tried to break more tropes than any other MCU entity to date. | ||
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Capped
United Kingdom7236 Posts
On December 11 2015 01:26 FrankDaGreat wrote: If anyone would like to know more about the character, i would recommend that you read the Alias series, it's basically the origin story for Jessica: http://imgur.com/a/3Tzyo All i got out of the first 50 words of that were about ~15 fucks. A class writing. | ||
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Nakajin
Canada8764 Posts
On the plus side, the show having no link to any other marvel show was very good for it's coherence, same with the fact that didn't turn it into a "save the world" story. I did like the absence of vilain and the fact that her mom was kind of a selfish dick was a good idea I think, it would have been easy to have her be kind of an "hulk" caracter, just a good persons who can't control herself, but way less interesting. Jessica Jones as always was very well acted and the supporting cast did great. They also learn to have an open ending but not like 15 plot lines without end. The Jerry plot line, if pretty useless to the overall story, was great. On the other hand Trish caracter was all over the fucking place, I honestly could not understand half the time if she was suppose to still be high, that speed guy specials effects looked worst then the 1990 direct to video Flash movie. The first few episodes were overall very boring and confusing, the mother twist was kind of out of nowhere, but I could live with it after a while. | ||
-Archangel-
Croatia7457 Posts
Overall, kicking all the men from writing, directing and producing backfired into making by far the worst netflix hero season yet. By choosing people by their gender and not how good they are they turned to be just as sexist as some men in hollywood. | ||
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Velr
Switzerland10415 Posts
Luke Cage was bad but mainly way too long. Jj1 was decent, a bit too long too. Dd and Punisher are imho the best so far... Well dds2 if you would replace the ninjas with something less 80ies . | ||
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On March 17 2018 00:49 Plansix wrote: I found Iron Fist to be straight up unwatchable due to bad acting, writing and terrible action direction. JJ season 2 isn’t perfect, but it isn’t the flaming bag of dog poop Iron fist was. And I’m not sure they fired any male writers. That isn’t how TV production companies work. They even market the season as women doing it all (important parts at least). Not a good move if you are going to shit out such a bad season. Iron Fist was not great but the villains were better (and twists were OK). IF mostly failed because of terrible action scenes and bad main character that didn't look or act the part of best martial artist in Marvel Universe. | ||
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Jockmcplop
United Kingdom8725 Posts
JJ season 2 has some good bits but none of the atmosphere of season 1. Its hard to follow a baddie like Killgrave though. | ||
Velr
Switzerland10415 Posts
Focussing the whole story only around the main cast could have backfired hard, but it managed to somehow keep it together (mostly and barely ). I didn't notice any big feminist agenda or something, I just learned about that here... So thats a pro for some people I guess? Also 9 or 10 episodes would have been enough... These shows needing 2 climaxes just doesn't serve them well. | ||
Xarles
459 Posts
On March 17 2018 02:58 Jockmcplop wrote: Iron fist should've been a comedy imo. Everything about it was ridiculous. JJ season 2 has some good bits but none of the atmosphere of season 1. Its hard to follow a baddie like Killgrave though. I laughed every time Danny had a flashback. Him shaking like that made me think he was an addict going through withdrawal. | ||
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