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On July 12 2018 17:15 nojok wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2018 16:51 -Archangel- wrote:On July 12 2018 16:47 nojok wrote:On July 12 2018 11:52 nayumi wrote:On July 12 2018 06:23 Faruko wrote:On July 12 2018 06:18 BigFan wrote: People keep writing Croatia off and Croatia keeps delivering. My only wish is that they show the same level of play they did past the 60ish minute mark (after that goal) all game long, but I feel like that would actually work against them somehow. Congrats to Croatian fans! Game was really exciting once they really started finding their groove (and England slipping in their defense haha). Who thought Croatia was off? For once everyone thought they were pretty strong and considering their path they should have achieved SF, and they did vs England, lots of us thought they were """"""""""""""underdogs""""""""""""""" but it wasn't really clear at all, like maybe 60/40 or something Besides not winning anything and being their first finals, i don't consider Croatia underdogs or even a surprise overall IMO, finals are always 50/50 between 2 good teams, even if one of those seems better, it's 1 game and anything can happen, a shitty day can decide anything Croatia has been showing that they were top 2/4 contenders ever since the group stage. They weren't the underdog against Argentina (anyone who though otherwise is really silly imo) and thus they shouldn't be considered underdog against England either. To be completely fair, this England team has made it this far due to the following factors: - Smart and intelligent tactic used which fully utilised the strength of a group of average players (barring Kane). - Arguably easier group stage and knock-out opponents all the way to the semi. However I think they severely lack the depth required to win a major tournament. Finding more than one way to reliably score is what they should work on. I don't think they can do it with the current squad though. Putting the lack of talents issue aside, as much as I think Southgate deserves at least 70% credit for this World Cup's success (yes, making to the semi should be an achievement for this England squad), I'm not convinced he's the right man for the job, if you want to go on and win titles. His approach to the game works at the youth level (which was where he came from), and is perfect to make an average squad look better collectively, but I don't think it's suitable for a more talented squad which desires to win stuffs. Croatia is a decent team but nowhere near world cup final level. They were dominated by Denmark, Nigeria, Argentina, England and Russia. It took an autogoal and a penalty against Nigeria, a gift from Argentina, the total lack of mental strength from the English who disappeared for no reason whatsoever. Even Iceland pushed them to the last minute. This is the worst run to a final ever. It would be an embarassment for football to see a team this poor win the world cup. They're far from showing the qualities Greece showed in 2004 or even Portugal in 2016. Saying they've showed they were top4 contenders shows an absolutely lack of understanding of football. This world cup will give us a sad low cost star on the jersey. Wow, just wow.. your only worthy win was vs Belgium and mostly because your team played like pussies whole second half and stole time wherever you could. Argentina that we destroyed scored 3 goal against you. This amount of hubris beats even English fansnewspapers... It's blatant your team is weak, the whole tournament is weak, it's a joke, we've missed at least 4 good teams for it to be a good tournament. It's euro 2016 all over again. The second part of the bracket was atrocious. The story telling of big names falling made it entertaining but once we look at the level of play it's the weakest world cup I've ever seen. Do you think this Croatian team would stand a chance against Argentina 2014, Netherlands 2010, France 2006, Germany 2002? No they wouldn't.
I'm embarassed to be french now. Good job. (Or were your trolling your last 2 posts ?)
I kinda hope croatia scores first. This way we might have a chance to watch a great football game. If France scores first, it will be France-Belgium on repeat...
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On July 12 2018 17:34 nayumi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2018 16:47 nojok wrote:On July 12 2018 11:52 nayumi wrote:On July 12 2018 06:23 Faruko wrote:On July 12 2018 06:18 BigFan wrote: People keep writing Croatia off and Croatia keeps delivering. My only wish is that they show the same level of play they did past the 60ish minute mark (after that goal) all game long, but I feel like that would actually work against them somehow. Congrats to Croatian fans! Game was really exciting once they really started finding their groove (and England slipping in their defense haha). Who thought Croatia was off? For once everyone thought they were pretty strong and considering their path they should have achieved SF, and they did vs England, lots of us thought they were """"""""""""""underdogs""""""""""""""" but it wasn't really clear at all, like maybe 60/40 or something Besides not winning anything and being their first finals, i don't consider Croatia underdogs or even a surprise overall IMO, finals are always 50/50 between 2 good teams, even if one of those seems better, it's 1 game and anything can happen, a shitty day can decide anything Croatia has been showing that they were top 2/4 contenders ever since the group stage. They weren't the underdog against Argentina (anyone who though otherwise is really silly imo) and thus they shouldn't be considered underdog against England either. To be completely fair, this England team has made it this far due to the following factors: - Smart and intelligent tactic used which fully utilised the strength of a group of average players (barring Kane). - Arguably easier group stage and knock-out opponents all the way to the semi. However I think they severely lack the depth required to win a major tournament. Finding more than one way to reliably score is what they should work on. I don't think they can do it with the current squad though. Putting the lack of talents issue aside, as much as I think Southgate deserves at least 70% credit for this World Cup's success (yes, making to the semi should be an achievement for this England squad), I'm not convinced he's the right man for the job, if you want to go on and win titles. His approach to the game works at the youth level (which was where he came from), and is perfect to make an average squad look better collectively, but I don't think it's suitable for a more talented squad which desires to win stuffs. Croatia is a decent team but nowhere near world cup final level. They were dominated by Denmark, Nigeria, Argentina, England and Russia. It took an autogoal and a penalty against Nigeria, a gift from Argentina, the total lack of mental strength from the English who disappeared for no reason whatsoever. Even Iceland pushed them to the last minute. This is the worst run to a final ever. It would be an embarassment for football to see a team this poor win the world cup. They're far from showing the qualities Greece showed in 2004 or even Portugal in 2016. Saying they've showed they were top4 contenders shows an absolutely lack of understanding of football. This world cup will give us a sad low cost star on the jersey. I was about to type my lengthy response but I realised that you must be trolling ... Yeah a team which got draws against Denmark and Russia is the top team, wow, hype. None of you seem to realise the quality France showed against Belgium and Uruguay, it was no basic park the bus like the Koreans and Mexicans did against Germany or Belgium against Brazil. It was top notch discipline, organisation, similar to Italians all time best sides or 20th century Germany.
It's so easy to dismisss what does not fit your narrative with "it must be trolling".
I'm salty, the final is spoiled. For once we show up with a good team, we face almost nobody. It will be slapped in our face every time we mention this win.
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On July 12 2018 17:44 nojok wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2018 17:34 nayumi wrote:On July 12 2018 16:47 nojok wrote:On July 12 2018 11:52 nayumi wrote:On July 12 2018 06:23 Faruko wrote:On July 12 2018 06:18 BigFan wrote: People keep writing Croatia off and Croatia keeps delivering. My only wish is that they show the same level of play they did past the 60ish minute mark (after that goal) all game long, but I feel like that would actually work against them somehow. Congrats to Croatian fans! Game was really exciting once they really started finding their groove (and England slipping in their defense haha). Who thought Croatia was off? For once everyone thought they were pretty strong and considering their path they should have achieved SF, and they did vs England, lots of us thought they were """"""""""""""underdogs""""""""""""""" but it wasn't really clear at all, like maybe 60/40 or something Besides not winning anything and being their first finals, i don't consider Croatia underdogs or even a surprise overall IMO, finals are always 50/50 between 2 good teams, even if one of those seems better, it's 1 game and anything can happen, a shitty day can decide anything Croatia has been showing that they were top 2/4 contenders ever since the group stage. They weren't the underdog against Argentina (anyone who though otherwise is really silly imo) and thus they shouldn't be considered underdog against England either. To be completely fair, this England team has made it this far due to the following factors: - Smart and intelligent tactic used which fully utilised the strength of a group of average players (barring Kane). - Arguably easier group stage and knock-out opponents all the way to the semi. However I think they severely lack the depth required to win a major tournament. Finding more than one way to reliably score is what they should work on. I don't think they can do it with the current squad though. Putting the lack of talents issue aside, as much as I think Southgate deserves at least 70% credit for this World Cup's success (yes, making to the semi should be an achievement for this England squad), I'm not convinced he's the right man for the job, if you want to go on and win titles. His approach to the game works at the youth level (which was where he came from), and is perfect to make an average squad look better collectively, but I don't think it's suitable for a more talented squad which desires to win stuffs. Croatia is a decent team but nowhere near world cup final level. They were dominated by Denmark, Nigeria, Argentina, England and Russia. It took an autogoal and a penalty against Nigeria, a gift from Argentina, the total lack of mental strength from the English who disappeared for no reason whatsoever. Even Iceland pushed them to the last minute. This is the worst run to a final ever. It would be an embarassment for football to see a team this poor win the world cup. They're far from showing the qualities Greece showed in 2004 or even Portugal in 2016. Saying they've showed they were top4 contenders shows an absolutely lack of understanding of football. This world cup will give us a sad low cost star on the jersey. I was about to type my lengthy response but I realised that you must be trolling ... Yeah a team which got draws against Denmark and Russia is the top team, wow, hype. None of you seem to realise the quality France showed against Belgium and Uruguay, it was no basic park the bus like the Koreans and Mexicans did against Germany or Belgium against Brazil. It was top notch discipline, organisation, similar to Italians all time best sides or 20th century Germany. It's so easy to dismisss what does not fit your narrative with "it must be trolling". I'm salty, the final is spoiled. For once we show up with a good team, we face almost nobody. It will be slapped in our face every time we mention this win.
I hope you lose. So much more each time you post, and your confidence is a no win situation for you.
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All this talk about "oh they are in finals cuz brackets, pen, gifts, etc." is irrelevant. They didn't choke when everyone else did and thats why they are in the finals. All it will take for Croatia to win it is another Umtiti slam dunk so I'd be worried if i were you.
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On July 12 2018 17:44 nojok wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2018 17:34 nayumi wrote:On July 12 2018 16:47 nojok wrote:On July 12 2018 11:52 nayumi wrote:On July 12 2018 06:23 Faruko wrote:On July 12 2018 06:18 BigFan wrote: People keep writing Croatia off and Croatia keeps delivering. My only wish is that they show the same level of play they did past the 60ish minute mark (after that goal) all game long, but I feel like that would actually work against them somehow. Congrats to Croatian fans! Game was really exciting once they really started finding their groove (and England slipping in their defense haha). Who thought Croatia was off? For once everyone thought they were pretty strong and considering their path they should have achieved SF, and they did vs England, lots of us thought they were """"""""""""""underdogs""""""""""""""" but it wasn't really clear at all, like maybe 60/40 or something Besides not winning anything and being their first finals, i don't consider Croatia underdogs or even a surprise overall IMO, finals are always 50/50 between 2 good teams, even if one of those seems better, it's 1 game and anything can happen, a shitty day can decide anything Croatia has been showing that they were top 2/4 contenders ever since the group stage. They weren't the underdog against Argentina (anyone who though otherwise is really silly imo) and thus they shouldn't be considered underdog against England either. To be completely fair, this England team has made it this far due to the following factors: - Smart and intelligent tactic used which fully utilised the strength of a group of average players (barring Kane). - Arguably easier group stage and knock-out opponents all the way to the semi. However I think they severely lack the depth required to win a major tournament. Finding more than one way to reliably score is what they should work on. I don't think they can do it with the current squad though. Putting the lack of talents issue aside, as much as I think Southgate deserves at least 70% credit for this World Cup's success (yes, making to the semi should be an achievement for this England squad), I'm not convinced he's the right man for the job, if you want to go on and win titles. His approach to the game works at the youth level (which was where he came from), and is perfect to make an average squad look better collectively, but I don't think it's suitable for a more talented squad which desires to win stuffs. Croatia is a decent team but nowhere near world cup final level. They were dominated by Denmark, Nigeria, Argentina, England and Russia. It took an autogoal and a penalty against Nigeria, a gift from Argentina, the total lack of mental strength from the English who disappeared for no reason whatsoever. Even Iceland pushed them to the last minute. This is the worst run to a final ever. It would be an embarassment for football to see a team this poor win the world cup. They're far from showing the qualities Greece showed in 2004 or even Portugal in 2016. Saying they've showed they were top4 contenders shows an absolutely lack of understanding of football. This world cup will give us a sad low cost star on the jersey. I was about to type my lengthy response but I realised that you must be trolling ... Yeah a team which got draws against Denmark and Russia is the top team, wow, hype. None of you seem to realise the quality France showed against Belgium and Uruguay, it was no basic park the bus like the Koreans and Mexicans did against Germany or Belgium against Brazil. It was top notch discipline, organisation, similar to Italians all time best sides or 20th century Germany. It's so easy to dismisss what does not fit your narrative with "it must be trolling". I'm salty, the final is spoiled. For once we show up with a good team, we face almost nobody. It will be slapped in our face every time we mention this win.
Following your logic, France is weak because they almost got taken down by Argentina (4-3), but Croatia beat Argentina 3-0, so Croatia is better than France.
Take a chill pill.
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On July 12 2018 17:51 Jockmcplop wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2018 17:44 nojok wrote:On July 12 2018 17:34 nayumi wrote:On July 12 2018 16:47 nojok wrote:On July 12 2018 11:52 nayumi wrote:On July 12 2018 06:23 Faruko wrote:On July 12 2018 06:18 BigFan wrote: People keep writing Croatia off and Croatia keeps delivering. My only wish is that they show the same level of play they did past the 60ish minute mark (after that goal) all game long, but I feel like that would actually work against them somehow. Congrats to Croatian fans! Game was really exciting once they really started finding their groove (and England slipping in their defense haha). Who thought Croatia was off? For once everyone thought they were pretty strong and considering their path they should have achieved SF, and they did vs England, lots of us thought they were """"""""""""""underdogs""""""""""""""" but it wasn't really clear at all, like maybe 60/40 or something Besides not winning anything and being their first finals, i don't consider Croatia underdogs or even a surprise overall IMO, finals are always 50/50 between 2 good teams, even if one of those seems better, it's 1 game and anything can happen, a shitty day can decide anything Croatia has been showing that they were top 2/4 contenders ever since the group stage. They weren't the underdog against Argentina (anyone who though otherwise is really silly imo) and thus they shouldn't be considered underdog against England either. To be completely fair, this England team has made it this far due to the following factors: - Smart and intelligent tactic used which fully utilised the strength of a group of average players (barring Kane). - Arguably easier group stage and knock-out opponents all the way to the semi. However I think they severely lack the depth required to win a major tournament. Finding more than one way to reliably score is what they should work on. I don't think they can do it with the current squad though. Putting the lack of talents issue aside, as much as I think Southgate deserves at least 70% credit for this World Cup's success (yes, making to the semi should be an achievement for this England squad), I'm not convinced he's the right man for the job, if you want to go on and win titles. His approach to the game works at the youth level (which was where he came from), and is perfect to make an average squad look better collectively, but I don't think it's suitable for a more talented squad which desires to win stuffs. Croatia is a decent team but nowhere near world cup final level. They were dominated by Denmark, Nigeria, Argentina, England and Russia. It took an autogoal and a penalty against Nigeria, a gift from Argentina, the total lack of mental strength from the English who disappeared for no reason whatsoever. Even Iceland pushed them to the last minute. This is the worst run to a final ever. It would be an embarassment for football to see a team this poor win the world cup. They're far from showing the qualities Greece showed in 2004 or even Portugal in 2016. Saying they've showed they were top4 contenders shows an absolutely lack of understanding of football. This world cup will give us a sad low cost star on the jersey. I was about to type my lengthy response but I realised that you must be trolling ... Yeah a team which got draws against Denmark and Russia is the top team, wow, hype. None of you seem to realise the quality France showed against Belgium and Uruguay, it was no basic park the bus like the Koreans and Mexicans did against Germany or Belgium against Brazil. It was top notch discipline, organisation, similar to Italians all time best sides or 20th century Germany. It's so easy to dismisss what does not fit your narrative with "it must be trolling". I'm salty, the final is spoiled. For once we show up with a good team, we face almost nobody. It will be slapped in our face every time we mention this win. I hope you lose. So much more each time you post, and your confidence is a no win situation for you.
The worst thing is he was really pessimistic at the start of the tournament, hell, even for france vs uruguay he thought france would lose. So i don't get why he got so arrogant now.
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I wonder how that Croatian player who got sent home feels right about now.
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On July 12 2018 18:49 don_kyuhote wrote: I wonder how that Croatian player who got sent home feels right about now.
Haha, yeah, I wondered the same thing multiple times by now.
It's really sad. Missing the world finals because he was being a young stupid kid.
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I mean one could argue Seed, Sniper, roro etc they weren't quality winners but so what they still have a Code S and people like Taeja, mkp and leenock don't.
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United States97248 Posts
On July 12 2018 15:48 Laurens wrote:The hilarious part is that Panama tried this vs England and got a load of shit for it (and rightfully so). Then England goes and does the same. Also hilarious apparently English fan reddit mods kept deleting this highlight and banning people for posting it on /r/soccer for a while before caving to the backlash
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On July 12 2018 18:49 don_kyuhote wrote: I wonder how that Croatian player who got sent home feels right about now. Haha oh wow yeah that decision is going to haunt him for a while.
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On July 12 2018 17:44 nojok wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2018 17:34 nayumi wrote:On July 12 2018 16:47 nojok wrote:On July 12 2018 11:52 nayumi wrote:On July 12 2018 06:23 Faruko wrote:On July 12 2018 06:18 BigFan wrote: People keep writing Croatia off and Croatia keeps delivering. My only wish is that they show the same level of play they did past the 60ish minute mark (after that goal) all game long, but I feel like that would actually work against them somehow. Congrats to Croatian fans! Game was really exciting once they really started finding their groove (and England slipping in their defense haha). Who thought Croatia was off? For once everyone thought they were pretty strong and considering their path they should have achieved SF, and they did vs England, lots of us thought they were """"""""""""""underdogs""""""""""""""" but it wasn't really clear at all, like maybe 60/40 or something Besides not winning anything and being their first finals, i don't consider Croatia underdogs or even a surprise overall IMO, finals are always 50/50 between 2 good teams, even if one of those seems better, it's 1 game and anything can happen, a shitty day can decide anything Croatia has been showing that they were top 2/4 contenders ever since the group stage. They weren't the underdog against Argentina (anyone who though otherwise is really silly imo) and thus they shouldn't be considered underdog against England either. To be completely fair, this England team has made it this far due to the following factors: - Smart and intelligent tactic used which fully utilised the strength of a group of average players (barring Kane). - Arguably easier group stage and knock-out opponents all the way to the semi. However I think they severely lack the depth required to win a major tournament. Finding more than one way to reliably score is what they should work on. I don't think they can do it with the current squad though. Putting the lack of talents issue aside, as much as I think Southgate deserves at least 70% credit for this World Cup's success (yes, making to the semi should be an achievement for this England squad), I'm not convinced he's the right man for the job, if you want to go on and win titles. His approach to the game works at the youth level (which was where he came from), and is perfect to make an average squad look better collectively, but I don't think it's suitable for a more talented squad which desires to win stuffs. Croatia is a decent team but nowhere near world cup final level. They were dominated by Denmark, Nigeria, Argentina, England and Russia. It took an autogoal and a penalty against Nigeria, a gift from Argentina, the total lack of mental strength from the English who disappeared for no reason whatsoever. Even Iceland pushed them to the last minute. This is the worst run to a final ever. It would be an embarassment for football to see a team this poor win the world cup. They're far from showing the qualities Greece showed in 2004 or even Portugal in 2016. Saying they've showed they were top4 contenders shows an absolutely lack of understanding of football. This world cup will give us a sad low cost star on the jersey. I was about to type my lengthy response but I realised that you must be trolling ... Yeah a team which got draws against Denmark and Russia is the top team, wow, hype. None of you seem to realise the quality France showed against Belgium and Uruguay, it was no basic park the bus like the Koreans and Mexicans did against Germany or Belgium against Brazil. It was top notch discipline, organisation, similar to Italians all time best sides or 20th century Germany. It's so easy to dismisss what does not fit your narrative with "it must be trolling". I'm salty, the final is spoiled. For once we show up with a good team, we face almost nobody. It will be slapped in our face every time we mention this win. wow if you are serious then you must be living under a rock ...
By being dominated, do you mean Croatia had more possession and more attempts/on-target attempts than every other opponent they've faced so far, with the only exception against Argentina which they won it comfortably anyway.
What quality football that France has delivered so far which made them better than Croatia?
A penalty and a lucky deflection goal against a shitty Australia team? Or the big 1-0 win against the South America powerhouse PERU (which funnily enough had a better possession and passing accuracy that game)? Or the quality snooze-fest against Denmark? I guess it's discipline and top notch quality when you guys scored less than Croatia (despite having 1 more penalty), worse at possession and passing accuracy, less attempts/on-target attempts. France has played some decent football no doubt but saying that's another level over Croatia is laughable at best.
Keep sipping that cool-aid man it's some good shit you got there
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Bearded Elder29876 Posts
Well you won't get slaped by noone since France is not winning this years WC.
LET'S GO HRVATSKA
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On July 12 2018 19:02 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2018 15:48 Laurens wrote:The hilarious part is that Panama tried this vs England and got a load of shit for it (and rightfully so). Then England goes and does the same. Also hilarious apparently English fan reddit mods kept deleting this highlight and banning people for posting it on /r/soccer for a while before caving to the backlash It was offside to boot, highlights the incompetence of it even more.
https://v.redd.it/voszehq8zg911/DASH_600_K
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On July 12 2018 17:44 nojok wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2018 17:34 nayumi wrote:On July 12 2018 16:47 nojok wrote:On July 12 2018 11:52 nayumi wrote:On July 12 2018 06:23 Faruko wrote:On July 12 2018 06:18 BigFan wrote: People keep writing Croatia off and Croatia keeps delivering. My only wish is that they show the same level of play they did past the 60ish minute mark (after that goal) all game long, but I feel like that would actually work against them somehow. Congrats to Croatian fans! Game was really exciting once they really started finding their groove (and England slipping in their defense haha). Who thought Croatia was off? For once everyone thought they were pretty strong and considering their path they should have achieved SF, and they did vs England, lots of us thought they were """"""""""""""underdogs""""""""""""""" but it wasn't really clear at all, like maybe 60/40 or something Besides not winning anything and being their first finals, i don't consider Croatia underdogs or even a surprise overall IMO, finals are always 50/50 between 2 good teams, even if one of those seems better, it's 1 game and anything can happen, a shitty day can decide anything Croatia has been showing that they were top 2/4 contenders ever since the group stage. They weren't the underdog against Argentina (anyone who though otherwise is really silly imo) and thus they shouldn't be considered underdog against England either. To be completely fair, this England team has made it this far due to the following factors: - Smart and intelligent tactic used which fully utilised the strength of a group of average players (barring Kane). - Arguably easier group stage and knock-out opponents all the way to the semi. However I think they severely lack the depth required to win a major tournament. Finding more than one way to reliably score is what they should work on. I don't think they can do it with the current squad though. Putting the lack of talents issue aside, as much as I think Southgate deserves at least 70% credit for this World Cup's success (yes, making to the semi should be an achievement for this England squad), I'm not convinced he's the right man for the job, if you want to go on and win titles. His approach to the game works at the youth level (which was where he came from), and is perfect to make an average squad look better collectively, but I don't think it's suitable for a more talented squad which desires to win stuffs. Croatia is a decent team but nowhere near world cup final level. They were dominated by Denmark, Nigeria, Argentina, England and Russia. It took an autogoal and a penalty against Nigeria, a gift from Argentina, the total lack of mental strength from the English who disappeared for no reason whatsoever. Even Iceland pushed them to the last minute. This is the worst run to a final ever. It would be an embarassment for football to see a team this poor win the world cup. They're far from showing the qualities Greece showed in 2004 or even Portugal in 2016. Saying they've showed they were top4 contenders shows an absolutely lack of understanding of football. This world cup will give us a sad low cost star on the jersey. I was about to type my lengthy response but I realised that you must be trolling ... Yeah a team which got draws against Denmark and Russia is the top team, wow, hype. None of you seem to realise the quality France showed against Belgium and Uruguay, it was no basic park the bus like the Koreans and Mexicans did against Germany or Belgium against Brazil. It was top notch discipline, organisation, similar to Italians all time best sides or 20th century Germany. It's so easy to dismisss what does not fit your narrative with "it must be trolling". I'm salty, the final is spoiled. For once we show up with a good team, we face almost nobody. It will be slapped in our face every time we mention this win. dude stop, please stop
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I don't feel like arguing with nojok anymore. I have all respect for his team and how they played. If he really thinks Croatia is terrible and got lucky all the way to the finals that is his right.
But I guess that also means that any French victory that is less than 2 goals difference proves that he was just talking shit.
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On July 12 2018 16:54 Jockmcplop wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2018 16:51 -Archangel- wrote:On July 12 2018 16:47 nojok wrote:On July 12 2018 11:52 nayumi wrote:On July 12 2018 06:23 Faruko wrote:On July 12 2018 06:18 BigFan wrote: People keep writing Croatia off and Croatia keeps delivering. My only wish is that they show the same level of play they did past the 60ish minute mark (after that goal) all game long, but I feel like that would actually work against them somehow. Congrats to Croatian fans! Game was really exciting once they really started finding their groove (and England slipping in their defense haha). Who thought Croatia was off? For once everyone thought they were pretty strong and considering their path they should have achieved SF, and they did vs England, lots of us thought they were """"""""""""""underdogs""""""""""""""" but it wasn't really clear at all, like maybe 60/40 or something Besides not winning anything and being their first finals, i don't consider Croatia underdogs or even a surprise overall IMO, finals are always 50/50 between 2 good teams, even if one of those seems better, it's 1 game and anything can happen, a shitty day can decide anything Croatia has been showing that they were top 2/4 contenders ever since the group stage. They weren't the underdog against Argentina (anyone who though otherwise is really silly imo) and thus they shouldn't be considered underdog against England either. To be completely fair, this England team has made it this far due to the following factors: - Smart and intelligent tactic used which fully utilised the strength of a group of average players (barring Kane). - Arguably easier group stage and knock-out opponents all the way to the semi. However I think they severely lack the depth required to win a major tournament. Finding more than one way to reliably score is what they should work on. I don't think they can do it with the current squad though. Putting the lack of talents issue aside, as much as I think Southgate deserves at least 70% credit for this World Cup's success (yes, making to the semi should be an achievement for this England squad), I'm not convinced he's the right man for the job, if you want to go on and win titles. His approach to the game works at the youth level (which was where he came from), and is perfect to make an average squad look better collectively, but I don't think it's suitable for a more talented squad which desires to win stuffs. Croatia is a decent team but nowhere near world cup final level. They were dominated by Denmark, Nigeria, Argentina, England and Russia. It took an autogoal and a penalty against Nigeria, a gift from Argentina, the total lack of mental strength from the English who disappeared for no reason whatsoever. Even Iceland pushed them to the last minute. This is the worst run to a final ever. It would be an embarassment for football to see a team this poor win the world cup. They're far from showing the qualities Greece showed in 2004 or even Portugal in 2016. Saying they've showed they were top4 contenders shows an absolutely lack of understanding of football. This world cup will give us a sad low cost star on the jersey. Wow, just wow.. your only worth win was vs Belgium and mostly because your team played like pussies whole second half and stole time wherever you could. Argentina that we destroyed scored 3 goal against you. This amount of hubris beats even English fansnewspapers... He thinks France are amazing cos they scored a set piece against Belgium and then wasted the last 40 minutes of the game pretending to be hurt taking 5 minutes over every throw in. I hope you guys destroy France and show them for the arrogant players they are. Croatia deserve the win so much more.
Pretty funny considering the behavior you demonstrated during the semi with this moronic attempt to score a goal during the prolongation, you can shit as you want on mbappe but your whole team is the worst by far. (And his lack of mental fortitude after the equalization is ridiculous) Or the boderline racist comments coming from english footballers/personnalities toward the colombians or your "it's coming home" shit. Damn, and you still open your mouth after that... Btw you just over exagerate so much the "pretending to be hurt" haha. Too bad your side was so shitty they lost against another you already played two prolongation, it would have been great seeing the 3 lions getting destroyed in finals cuz u know, you're so arrogant.
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On July 12 2018 22:06 stilt wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2018 16:54 Jockmcplop wrote:On July 12 2018 16:51 -Archangel- wrote:On July 12 2018 16:47 nojok wrote:On July 12 2018 11:52 nayumi wrote:On July 12 2018 06:23 Faruko wrote:On July 12 2018 06:18 BigFan wrote: People keep writing Croatia off and Croatia keeps delivering. My only wish is that they show the same level of play they did past the 60ish minute mark (after that goal) all game long, but I feel like that would actually work against them somehow. Congrats to Croatian fans! Game was really exciting once they really started finding their groove (and England slipping in their defense haha). Who thought Croatia was off? For once everyone thought they were pretty strong and considering their path they should have achieved SF, and they did vs England, lots of us thought they were """"""""""""""underdogs""""""""""""""" but it wasn't really clear at all, like maybe 60/40 or something Besides not winning anything and being their first finals, i don't consider Croatia underdogs or even a surprise overall IMO, finals are always 50/50 between 2 good teams, even if one of those seems better, it's 1 game and anything can happen, a shitty day can decide anything Croatia has been showing that they were top 2/4 contenders ever since the group stage. They weren't the underdog against Argentina (anyone who though otherwise is really silly imo) and thus they shouldn't be considered underdog against England either. To be completely fair, this England team has made it this far due to the following factors: - Smart and intelligent tactic used which fully utilised the strength of a group of average players (barring Kane). - Arguably easier group stage and knock-out opponents all the way to the semi. However I think they severely lack the depth required to win a major tournament. Finding more than one way to reliably score is what they should work on. I don't think they can do it with the current squad though. Putting the lack of talents issue aside, as much as I think Southgate deserves at least 70% credit for this World Cup's success (yes, making to the semi should be an achievement for this England squad), I'm not convinced he's the right man for the job, if you want to go on and win titles. His approach to the game works at the youth level (which was where he came from), and is perfect to make an average squad look better collectively, but I don't think it's suitable for a more talented squad which desires to win stuffs. Croatia is a decent team but nowhere near world cup final level. They were dominated by Denmark, Nigeria, Argentina, England and Russia. It took an autogoal and a penalty against Nigeria, a gift from Argentina, the total lack of mental strength from the English who disappeared for no reason whatsoever. Even Iceland pushed them to the last minute. This is the worst run to a final ever. It would be an embarassment for football to see a team this poor win the world cup. They're far from showing the qualities Greece showed in 2004 or even Portugal in 2016. Saying they've showed they were top4 contenders shows an absolutely lack of understanding of football. This world cup will give us a sad low cost star on the jersey. Wow, just wow.. your only worth win was vs Belgium and mostly because your team played like pussies whole second half and stole time wherever you could. Argentina that we destroyed scored 3 goal against you. This amount of hubris beats even English fansnewspapers... He thinks France are amazing cos they scored a set piece against Belgium and then wasted the last 40 minutes of the game pretending to be hurt taking 5 minutes over every throw in. I hope you guys destroy France and show them for the arrogant players they are. Croatia deserve the win so much more. Pretty funny considering the behavior you demonstrated during the semi with this moronic attempt to score a goal during the prolongation, you can shit as you want on mbappe but your whole team is the worst by far. (And his lack of mental fortitude after the equalization is ridiculous) Or the boderline racist comments coming from english footballers/personnalities toward the colombians or your "it's coming home" shit. Damn, and you still open your mouth after that... Btw you just over exagerate so much the "pretending to be hurt" haha. Too bad your side was so shitty they lost against another you already played two prolongation, it would have been great seeing the 3 lions getting destroyed in finals. Our flag has 3 lions on it (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1b/Flag_of_Croatia.svg/1200px-Flag_of_Croatia.svg.png) so you can still get your wish :D
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Could we please stop with all the hate towards each other?
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On July 12 2018 22:09 -Archangel- wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2018 22:06 stilt wrote:On July 12 2018 16:54 Jockmcplop wrote:On July 12 2018 16:51 -Archangel- wrote:On July 12 2018 16:47 nojok wrote:On July 12 2018 11:52 nayumi wrote:On July 12 2018 06:23 Faruko wrote:On July 12 2018 06:18 BigFan wrote: People keep writing Croatia off and Croatia keeps delivering. My only wish is that they show the same level of play they did past the 60ish minute mark (after that goal) all game long, but I feel like that would actually work against them somehow. Congrats to Croatian fans! Game was really exciting once they really started finding their groove (and England slipping in their defense haha). Who thought Croatia was off? For once everyone thought they were pretty strong and considering their path they should have achieved SF, and they did vs England, lots of us thought they were """"""""""""""underdogs""""""""""""""" but it wasn't really clear at all, like maybe 60/40 or something Besides not winning anything and being their first finals, i don't consider Croatia underdogs or even a surprise overall IMO, finals are always 50/50 between 2 good teams, even if one of those seems better, it's 1 game and anything can happen, a shitty day can decide anything Croatia has been showing that they were top 2/4 contenders ever since the group stage. They weren't the underdog against Argentina (anyone who though otherwise is really silly imo) and thus they shouldn't be considered underdog against England either. To be completely fair, this England team has made it this far due to the following factors: - Smart and intelligent tactic used which fully utilised the strength of a group of average players (barring Kane). - Arguably easier group stage and knock-out opponents all the way to the semi. However I think they severely lack the depth required to win a major tournament. Finding more than one way to reliably score is what they should work on. I don't think they can do it with the current squad though. Putting the lack of talents issue aside, as much as I think Southgate deserves at least 70% credit for this World Cup's success (yes, making to the semi should be an achievement for this England squad), I'm not convinced he's the right man for the job, if you want to go on and win titles. His approach to the game works at the youth level (which was where he came from), and is perfect to make an average squad look better collectively, but I don't think it's suitable for a more talented squad which desires to win stuffs. Croatia is a decent team but nowhere near world cup final level. They were dominated by Denmark, Nigeria, Argentina, England and Russia. It took an autogoal and a penalty against Nigeria, a gift from Argentina, the total lack of mental strength from the English who disappeared for no reason whatsoever. Even Iceland pushed them to the last minute. This is the worst run to a final ever. It would be an embarassment for football to see a team this poor win the world cup. They're far from showing the qualities Greece showed in 2004 or even Portugal in 2016. Saying they've showed they were top4 contenders shows an absolutely lack of understanding of football. This world cup will give us a sad low cost star on the jersey. Wow, just wow.. your only worth win was vs Belgium and mostly because your team played like pussies whole second half and stole time wherever you could. Argentina that we destroyed scored 3 goal against you. This amount of hubris beats even English fansnewspapers... He thinks France are amazing cos they scored a set piece against Belgium and then wasted the last 40 minutes of the game pretending to be hurt taking 5 minutes over every throw in. I hope you guys destroy France and show them for the arrogant players they are. Croatia deserve the win so much more. Pretty funny considering the behavior you demonstrated during the semi with this moronic attempt to score a goal during the prolongation, you can shit as you want on mbappe but your whole team is the worst by far. (And his lack of mental fortitude after the equalization is ridiculous) Or the boderline racist comments coming from english footballers/personnalities toward the colombians or your "it's coming home" shit. Damn, and you still open your mouth after that... Btw you just over exagerate so much the "pretending to be hurt" haha. Too bad your side was so shitty they lost against another you already played two prolongation, it would have been great seeing the 3 lions getting destroyed in finals. Our flag has 3 lions on it ( https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1b/Flag_of_Croatia.svg/1200px-Flag_of_Croatia.svg.png) so you can still get your wish :D
Ah damn ! I know little of Croatia, I would not mind to see a new WC winner. And I love Modric. (But dislike very much rakitic so it equalizes ^^)
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