On May 09 2016 23:20 Godwrath wrote:
Yeah sometimes unpacks take forever anyways.
Btw IGN review 6.3 lol.
Yeah sometimes unpacks take forever anyways.
Btw IGN review 6.3 lol.
While IGN Italy is apparently 9.3
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Salazarz
Korea (South)2405 Posts
On May 09 2016 23:20 Godwrath wrote: Yeah sometimes unpacks take forever anyways. Btw IGN review 6.3 lol. While IGN Italy is apparently 9.3 | ||
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Not going to slow me down, but I do hear that the UI has some short comings. Edit: Personally I dislike review scores and wish they would go away forever. That review isn’t that bad and has a lot of praise for the game, but it sounds like the person playing was pretty disappointed with the games short comings cutting into the parts they liked. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On May 09 2016 23:58 Godwrath wrote: Yep, reading the reviews, you can get a better grasp of the expectations of the reviewer and then form your own opinion. But the scoring proccess uses nothing quantitative to really justify its existence. Hence why metacritic is completely useless. Some places don’t even have the person who writes the review set the score, but have their editor do it based on how the review sounds. Of course, after a discussion with the author to confirm they are ok with it. But 90% review sites ditched quantitative review systems well over a decade ago. Because as Jeff Gerstmann said, “We didn’t need some complex system to get every score to around a 7. We can just do that on our own.” But scores are pretty dumb in general. It’s all just opinion and impressions anyways. Personally, I find review where the person didn’t 100% love the game to be more interesting than ones that heap on praise. Talk to me about the short comings of a pretty great game, because that is the stuff I care about. On May 10 2016 00:04 Dysisa wrote: That's in large part why I read Eurogamer and not other sites. They had the same revelation, and got rid of the score system entirely. Instead they slap a "recommended" or "essential" on really good games though. Much, much better system imo. There are so many places to get information about games, I rarely even need that. I pre-ordered this game and I’m going to play it. But the reviews are a good way to for me to understand what its problems are. And for the developer to look into what they could fix if there are flaws. | ||
Ysellian
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Salazarz
Korea (South)2405 Posts
On May 10 2016 00:10 Ysellian wrote: Eurogamer have a much better system, but Rowan Kaiser is definitely someone I listen to. So ignore the score but definitely read what he has to say. Guy is a huge EU4 (in fact after reviewing Stellaris he went back to playing EU4 lol) and CKII fan and for him to get frustrated with the game is saddening because the problems he highlighted are things I was worried with too. You'd think he'd do at least one playthrough into lategame to see how it pans out, what a late game crisis thing might look like, etc. Seems pretty dumb that a professional reviewer who is apparently 'into' GSG genre would not even play through a single campaign prior to writing a review. | ||
FeyFey
Germany10114 Posts
On May 09 2016 23:31 Salazarz wrote: Show nested quote + On May 09 2016 23:20 Godwrath wrote: Yeah sometimes unpacks take forever anyways. Btw IGN review 6.3 lol. While IGN Italy is apparently 9.3 IGN learned that low scores generate clicks after their heroes review. So they poke the guys that don't pay them for good reviews. | ||
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Ysellian
Netherlands9029 Posts
On May 10 2016 00:11 Salazarz wrote: Show nested quote + On May 10 2016 00:10 Ysellian wrote: Eurogamer have a much better system, but Rowan Kaiser is definitely someone I listen to. So ignore the score but definitely read what he has to say. Guy is a huge EU4 (in fact after reviewing Stellaris he went back to playing EU4 lol) and CKII fan and for him to get frustrated with the game is saddening because the problems he highlighted are things I was worried with too. You'd think he'd do at least one playthrough into lategame to see how it pans out, what a late game crisis thing might look like, etc. Seems pretty dumb that a professional reviewer who is apparently 'into' GSG genre would not even play through a single campaign prior to writing a review. True you can fault him for not pushing through his boredom with the game till reaching the later stages, 20 hours is on the low side for a play through. Anyway I'm sure I'll give this game another look over once the DLC hits, in the mean time I'm just going to play what I already own. | ||
Laserist
Turkey4269 Posts
Paradox's grand strategy games are hit or miss for most players and they developed a significant experience on that particular genre. I don't think I am deeply disappointed about this game. I'll post it here if it goes somehow wrong. | ||
Salazarz
Korea (South)2405 Posts
On May 10 2016 00:31 Ysellian wrote: Show nested quote + On May 10 2016 00:11 Salazarz wrote: On May 10 2016 00:10 Ysellian wrote: Eurogamer have a much better system, but Rowan Kaiser is definitely someone I listen to. So ignore the score but definitely read what he has to say. Guy is a huge EU4 (in fact after reviewing Stellaris he went back to playing EU4 lol) and CKII fan and for him to get frustrated with the game is saddening because the problems he highlighted are things I was worried with too. You'd think he'd do at least one playthrough into lategame to see how it pans out, what a late game crisis thing might look like, etc. Seems pretty dumb that a professional reviewer who is apparently 'into' GSG genre would not even play through a single campaign prior to writing a review. True you can fault him for not pushing through his boredom with the game till reaching the later stages, 20 hours is on the low side for a play through. Anyway I'm sure I'll give this game another look over once the DLC hits, in the mean time I'm just going to play what I already own. I mean, it's his job to be thorough; that's what he gets paid for. Getting bored of the game really shouldn't be an excuse to not finish it as a reviewer. | ||
Ysellian
Netherlands9029 Posts
On May 10 2016 00:36 Salazarz wrote: Show nested quote + On May 10 2016 00:31 Ysellian wrote: On May 10 2016 00:11 Salazarz wrote: On May 10 2016 00:10 Ysellian wrote: Eurogamer have a much better system, but Rowan Kaiser is definitely someone I listen to. So ignore the score but definitely read what he has to say. Guy is a huge EU4 (in fact after reviewing Stellaris he went back to playing EU4 lol) and CKII fan and for him to get frustrated with the game is saddening because the problems he highlighted are things I was worried with too. You'd think he'd do at least one playthrough into lategame to see how it pans out, what a late game crisis thing might look like, etc. Seems pretty dumb that a professional reviewer who is apparently 'into' GSG genre would not even play through a single campaign prior to writing a review. True you can fault him for not pushing through his boredom with the game till reaching the later stages, 20 hours is on the low side for a play through. Anyway I'm sure I'll give this game another look over once the DLC hits, in the mean time I'm just going to play what I already own. I mean, it's his job to be thorough; that's what he gets paid for. Getting bored of the game really shouldn't be an excuse to not finish it as a reviewer. I'm not disagreeing with you here... | ||
Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On May 10 2016 00:40 Ysellian wrote: Show nested quote + On May 10 2016 00:36 Salazarz wrote: On May 10 2016 00:31 Ysellian wrote: On May 10 2016 00:11 Salazarz wrote: On May 10 2016 00:10 Ysellian wrote: Eurogamer have a much better system, but Rowan Kaiser is definitely someone I listen to. So ignore the score but definitely read what he has to say. Guy is a huge EU4 (in fact after reviewing Stellaris he went back to playing EU4 lol) and CKII fan and for him to get frustrated with the game is saddening because the problems he highlighted are things I was worried with too. You'd think he'd do at least one playthrough into lategame to see how it pans out, what a late game crisis thing might look like, etc. Seems pretty dumb that a professional reviewer who is apparently 'into' GSG genre would not even play through a single campaign prior to writing a review. True you can fault him for not pushing through his boredom with the game till reaching the later stages, 20 hours is on the low side for a play through. Anyway I'm sure I'll give this game another look over once the DLC hits, in the mean time I'm just going to play what I already own. I mean, it's his job to be thorough; that's what he gets paid for. Getting bored of the game really shouldn't be an excuse to not finish it as a reviewer. I'm not disagreeing with you here... It’s not hard for him to find out what that late game content looks like and if that would change his impressions or not. Or he could have played through on one of the faster settings. From the impressions I am seeing, the game seems to be hitting some Paradox fans the wrong way. | ||
ShiaoPi
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watching the release stream until it actually becomes available is just making me more giddy currently :/ Edit: DOWNLOADING NOWWWW!!! | ||
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