On January 24 2016 19:55 Tictock wrote: He did not, "half majority" in this case would be 5 votes.
The KP is only valid if he survives the day. Even in the worst case scenario we could have Cake shovel him to avoid the extra KP (course then we wouldn't know the flip till Cake dies).
On January 24 2016 19:32 Onegu wrote:
On January 24 2016 19:32 sicklucker wrote: You said you never claim here as scum but thats a lie. your role was getting revealed anyway... you acualy preemptively claimed 5 minutes before your role was about to be discovered anyway.
I could have killed alot if I was scum...
This is not a bad point actually.
how so? hes only able to redirect one kp not multiple. he killed the maximum of towns. He may have saved a town but he could not have killed two people
Well if he snagged the role as scum then obv he wants to be as much use as possible with it for his team. In that case it's value for his team to use a KP on Alot to stop him outing the role and means Onegu would not need to claim his role and actions.
I forget if someone was claiming to protect Alot though, that would change things because I doubt his team would waste both KP just to keep him from outing Onegu.
I am a busdriver... If I was scum I bus alot and someone else. Then the shot would go on alot and the protection would go on the someone else...
However do keep in mind Onegu that even if SL is mafia (I don't think he is) he still wouldn't know if you are town and would be trying to find out if you are scum.
On January 24 2016 20:39 Tictock wrote: However do keep in mind Onegu that even if SL is mafia (I don't think he is) he still wouldn't know if you are town and would be trying to find out if you are scum.
My point is he showed he thinks I am town and is trying to get me lynched anyway...
You know he did unvote you and cautioned people from jumping on you too easily right?
Granted he was still pushing for actions on you, but I think that's more because he doesn't trust you with the role.
My point is that even if he is scum there is no reason for him to dismiss faction KP, so him doing it isn't actually alignment indicative.
On January 25 2016 04:29 Rels wrote: Koshi => The opposite of SL. I was pretty sure this guy was town because of a dumbtell, but his attitude since then is so bad I started thinking he was scum hiding behind trolling to get away for not posting a lot of serious thing. But the fact that he roleblocked TT makes him town I think. If Koshi was scum, he could have used any of his other abilities to help his team instead of trying to stop a KP. Like put a bomb on a strong townie like me or Palmar, or go to Mars with a teammate and someone to lynch.
The interesting thing here is that Koshi never shared his scumread on me and only become concerned about me being scum when I started pushing Koshi as scum. He wasn't trying to RB me just to stop KP, he was RBing me because he was concerned might be sending KP his way.
At least that's how I am interpreting that action. It adds up too, look at how concerned Koshi is about survival even though he keeps saying town is fucked this game.
I also think it's interesting that Koshi didn't nuke one of his own scum reads (like me), but nuked Kita instead.
Anyways, we can discuss Koshi later. Lynching the red check does seem like the best/only option right now.
On January 25 2016 06:51 sicklucker wrote: gb and onegu have to go anyway. I see no problem lynching one of them and then lynching ff tomorrow when hes confirmed idc tho
Hrm. Do we have an RB for Onegu tonight? If not, bus driving could be a pain in the flower again. I'm really not happy about losing Linkript.
Well, I looked through FF's filter but nothing there really makes me not want to lynch FF.
He's been fairly active and somewhat interactive which is prob why I've been kinda TRing him. However there is little to no content at all in his ~8pg filter.
He gave some reads and did some stuff during the pick phases, but D1 pretty much never cared where his vote ended up.
It's actually really weird that this was FF's most interesting read,
On January 20 2016 07:19 Fecalfeast wrote: Mmmm, damdred's filter is a decently flavourful morsel I must say. Something you'd get at a fancy restaurant with the sauce drizzled right next to it rather than on top.
Still don't feel like changing my number though
On January 20 2016 12:41 Fecalfeast wrote: I didn't think his filter was touny I said it was like something at a fancy restaurant. Tastes fine but the portion is so small it's not even worth paying for.
I guess I was a little baked and assumed everyone would get it but I meant his filter was a small portion of things that look nice but have no substance. Like damdred normally makes a towncircle so he made a townlist but it was hardly backed up at all. He joked around with me because he knows I like joking around but when I said I wasn't moving he just said his numbers had sentimental value and that he didn't care if I took them. That's not what I was looking for so I called his bluff.
So yea, obv lynch.
I'm thinking Kita will flip town here kus of his little games before claiming his check. He was basically holding off the check for a bit while furthering some reads based on it, which is pretty smart. I also think it's more likely to be a towny doing that kus scum would prob just want the cred from the flip.
On January 26 2016 06:15 Rels wrote: Fucking town not wanting to lynch fucking busdriver. Let's lynch the scum vet instead. I don't care you're dead tonight or tomorrow. ##Unvote ##Vote FecalFeast
I just would prefer to make sure we are lynching mafia again.
Maybe Onegu is scum, but there is an equally solid chance he is town here.
Either Onegu gets sorted out tonight through night actions or we can debate about him again tomorrow with more info.
On January 26 2016 14:24 sicklucker wrote: because kita is clearly out to get the other mafia team ... why would he say your with them unless he believes it. This does not make it true but it does mean kitas team thinks your with ff which makes you likely to be so
So basically you think that FF's team thinks I'm mafia based off him posting this, and you think that means I'm probably mafia because they clearly have solid reads on mafia.
Like ok fine, maybe FF really did think I'm mafia. It's wierd that you'd put more stock in that read than your own thinking.
But hey if it's true that FF's team thinks that it just means I'm probably getting killed tonight.
Scum should want to kill me, town is doing a better job solving this game than they are.
On January 26 2016 20:57 Rels wrote: Like, not over the two dumbtells at the beginning of the game, the organizing town at a time where scum didn't care, the reaction test on someone that could have shot him instantly.
Uhh Kita just flipped scum and he tried to be very active in organizing town early on.
So clearly there were scum who at least cared to try and some who didn't.
As for SL though, I kinda think he's town.
Seems really weird that he'd quote a post that FF made calling Kita and me scum together and then get that mixed up thinking it was kita calling me scum with FF if SL is scum.
Are you actually expecting this to pan out and give us any real info?
It looks like a lot of work for the sake of looking like analysis to me.
And since it looks like you've already listed this in order of highest to lowest "activity rank" you can already see that Town and Mafia are mixed together pretty randomly which means this probably isn't a good heuristic.
So I highly disagree with your conclusion,
On January 26 2016 23:41 Palmar wrote: My new theory, bunch of lazy townies bottom, bunch of active townies top.
Guess who's in the middle
I expect to find mafia sprinkled in all over your list there, there is actually 0 chance they are all clumped together in the middle.
On January 27 2016 05:07 Keirathi wrote: I played with scum!Cake on vendetta-strada. She was way more...impactful?...there. Like she was proactively pushing reads, getting in fiths with people, etc. She played quite well. The only reason I caught her was because of the way she interacted with her other scum buddies, and she probably still could have won after I was lynched but she ended up forfeiting.
Basically I know Cake is very capable of tryharding as scum. It's hard to say if she's just scum here without time to play, or not very confident townie with not much time to play. I would tend to lean toward the latter, at this point, but not a lot of reasoning for it.
This matches up rather well with my (limited) experience with Cake.
Played with her as Town in the game Rayn semi-hosted but aborted and she seemed pretty similar to how she is in this game. So I've kinda been giving her a pass.
And fyi, saying you've lost your motivation to play because Palmar is an ass is pretty shitty. Ignore him if he's upsetting you that much. Don't use him as an excuse to afk.