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Then we have another 24 hours to try and figure out who might or might now go for certain roles? Is this game the holy grail of WIFOM? Might ask a few questions about some of the roles later / tomorrow. | ||
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On January 13 2016 12:21 Tictock wrote: /in No promises Tunneltock and Waffleboy are united once more, what other promises would I need? <3 On January 13 2016 21:56 Superbia wrote: /in Oh hai. I remember you being in the first game I played here. Long time no see. | ||
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On January 13 2016 23:15 Half the Sky wrote: Welcome back Superbia <3 And you resolved to not be waffleboy after Dark Tournament hehe xD That is a bold strategy, Half the Sky. Let's see if it pays off for me. | ||
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On January 13 2016 05:45 GreYMisT wrote: ADDITIONAL PREGAME INFORMATION. Unfortunately, this video is not available in your country because it could contain music from SME, for which we could not agree on conditions of use with GEMA. Am I at a disadvantage because of that? | ||
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On January 13 2016 23:28 NocturneMage wrote: Who needs waffles? I really want to give you the gift of spam, but it's too bad I can't mislynch HTS in this game. xD (In actuality I don't want to get caught out potentially playing two games at once.) Yeah, playing two games at once can be pretty tough. I am trying very hard to avoid this situation. Also in all fairness: this isn't probably the best game to try and annoy ppl, when there are tons of roles that have either KP or can mess with ppl really hard otherwise. | ||
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On January 13 2016 23:32 Half the Sky wrote: Random video with a reference to one of his former games Chrono Trigger. I think the answer to this question is no. I didn't play in Chrono Trigger though, I would just pay attention to whatever role PM we dish out. If you have a question about your role after you get it, just hit us up in PM land/Steam. edit - Actually in general - if there are ANY roles that are not clear to you (the PYP or the Mysterious Challenger) this is the time to address those things before draft. Aside from there being tons of roles that sound way too complicated for me, I think I got it. Pretty sure I'll mess up the numbers thing and get Mysterious Challenger anyway, cause I end up as the last pick or something. xD Eh, actually got some questions:
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(You may use this rocket at any time before the ½ of the day is done This means this ability can only be used during the first 24hours of a day cycle? | ||
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The Lovers - Your target and whoever he targeted become lovers this night Lovers means: if one of them dies both die? The Fool - You and your target begin the day with ½ of majority of votes (rounded up). Where do these votes come from? Like, are the remaining players divided into voting the target and Yu? Can they unvote? What does this ability do other than announcing that one of the two players with votes on them has this role? | ||
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You build rockets, ja? You build most excellent rockets. You do notz care vere dese rockets come daun, dat eez not your department. At night you may launch wan of ze following rockets: V1, V2, V3, Titan II, or Atlas V V1: vat a panzy leetle rocket. Not efen a real rocket at all, ja?! Zis rocket vill land on somevan's head and knock him unconscious and incapable off doing ennysing at all zis cycle (roleblock) V2: a masterpiece off modern ingenierung! Vat ein marvel! Zis rocket vill easily flatten all of London, bwahahaha! Traurig, London is not in zis game.You pick ze target for zis rocket and iv you die, it veel explode, killing whoever it vas above! (Mad hatter, you can change your rocket’s target every night) V3: Nein nein nein nein nein! DaB ist also not ein rocket!!! It is just ein very big gun. I refuse to shoot guns, zey are for sissies! make somveone else shoots ziz rocket ja? (You may use this rocket at any time before the ½ of the day is done and rig the notification to show that someone else is firing it, it will do no damage) Titan II: kaboom baby! Dis is ein schones ICBM! Nuclear launch detected, jawohl!!! Nukes someone, dealing 1 kp at the end of the day. Use by PMing a host a nuke target with ½ of the time left in the day. The thread will be notified that you are firing a nuke at your target. (ziz cannot ve used day von ja?) (this cannot be used day 1) Atlas V: ve vill go to Mars, ja? Ve vill make new colony on Mars! Launches Werner von Braun and 2 persons of choice into space. This will open a QT for these 3 people. Because they are in space, their votes take a while to arrive, so they only have time to send in 1 (you and the players you send to mars may not vote switch). The Next night the ship arrives on mars. Whoops, Mars is boring and there is only space for 2 people to return to Earth. Closed voting system at night for who returns to Earth. Other 1 dies like Cohaagen in Total Recall. While in route and on mars, the players may not be targeted (they can still be lynched). You yourself cannot use your abilities while in route and on mars, because you need to fly the spaceship. There will be an announcement about the players launched and that they cannot be targeted. "Gentlemen, you can't fight in here! This is the War Room!" Shouldn't the bold green part say that V1,V2 and Atlas are fired at night and V3, Titan II are fired during the first 24h of a day cycle? Or can I fire the V3 and Titan II during the night phase, too? | ||
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On January 14 2016 23:50 Half the Sky wrote: (1) Lovers - this is correct. http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Lover I'd recommend in general newer players when you enter themed games, mafiascum wiki can be your friend on the basics. (2) Arbitrary vote manipulation. They are not attributed to specific players. It shouldn't affect remaining players unless the conditions specifically say "the lynch is decided between you and the target" - "or duel lynch mechanics" - which is the exact same thing. 2) this means you just pull a ton of votes out of nowhere and put them on yourself and the target? I call election manipulation strats. | ||
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Mirror Man! (Catastrophe Mafia) Before the end of Day 1, you must select a player. You will use your mirror powers to redirect all abilities that target that player to yourself.However, you are no mere mirror boy, you are Mirror Man! In addition to this redirect, you will also invert all abilities redirected to you. These abilities will do the opposite of their normal ability. Some abilities do not have opposites. If your target dies at any point in the game, you will be asked to pick a new one. Your selection will take effect the following phase. When you make your first selection, your target will be told: “A Mysterious Challenger approaches! You have been selected to choose his powers. Select a role for the player from the master list of roles. If you choose a role that has already been chosen, the player will randomize another role from the Mysterious Challenger list. You may not pick a role for this player that you have.” This message will confer no ability on that person to give you a power. Right back-atcha! Seems like the power picker text was copy pasted into the mirror man. On January 14 2016 23:59 Half the Sky wrote: It does. The question is whether we can trust you if you were to draft that role I thought that was a joke ability. On January 14 2016 23:58 Half the Sky wrote: Each ability specifies the condition when you can use it: V1 - "this cycle", or once that day/night cycle; V2, at night; V3, specific time during the day; Titan 2, specific time of day and not day 1; Atlas, send the request in at night and upon the daypost you get your QT with the people you requested. In general, we tried our best to be as specific as possible with the how and the when of these roles, unlike most normal, there is a lot of stuff that can get used during the day or is expendable for an entire day and night cycle. There are restrictions on some abilities and do bear in mind for balance purposes some of this is possible so that both factions can use that, that is a key thing in PYP. Yeah, I was a bit confused cause it said used during the night in the beginning as I highlighted, but thanks for clarifying how ze glorious rockets vork. | ||
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On January 15 2016 04:25 Rels wrote: Yo folks excited to play I would prefer this to start Monday so I have time to properly read the op before the role picking day Yeah, Monday would be great, give me a bit more time to fix RL stuffs. If the Mysterious Challenger is picked voluntarily, the selector can designate ½ of the options that he does not want, and the role he gets will be randomized between the remaining roles. Roles that have already been selected from the list will be removed from the list. If for some reason all of the roles get removed from the list, all roles will be added back to the list. If I was to select the Mysterious Challenger can I select up to 1/2 the options or does it have to be 1/2? E.g. could I only exclude one of the roles from the pool? | ||
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On January 15 2016 04:45 GreYMisT wrote: Do you see "A Pizza with Coke" on the role list? Fixed. The Coke didn't exactly fit on the list, though. Also only a few slices, the list is slightly smaller than expected. Hope this is still acceptable. + Show Spoiler + | ||
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On January 15 2016 05:26 GreYMisT wrote: B for effort, you didnt even turn the coke on its side, allowing it to better fit on the role list Fair enough and good point. Should have tried to find another picture of a coke or something. Wish I had mad skills in photoshop or something. xD | ||
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On January 15 2016 05:52 Keirathi wrote: Or...you could have just made the role list rectangle bigger??? Hmmm... nah. I don't think that would make this piece of art an adequate depiction of the struggle buried deep insides GlowingBear's chest over his inner commotion about there not being a pizza and coke on this role list. You know the profoundness of this struggle being as real as it gets. Which is also the reason for me electing to paint the pizza and coke in a vastly different style than the role list. To further highlight the cold hard truth in a simplistic black and white, while painting GlowingBear's fantastic desires in vibrant colours. | ||
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If someone dies during the day phase, e.g. via shovel knight, one of werners rockets, whatever. Does his vote still count? Or does it get removed cause dead ppl have no voting rights? If their vote does not count, do they have a lobby for that? Alchemist:
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On January 16 2016 01:07 Half the Sky wrote: It depends on whether the kill is instantaneous or if it resolves at the nightpost, and any kills that resolve at the nightpost will have been considered to do so after votes are finalised. In other words, their votes will count. If a player is removed and flipped immediately then obviously votes won't count. I don't know what you mean by lobby, but hopefully that makes sense. I meant to ask if there is a political lobby fighting for the rights of dead people. As in that dead people are still allowed to vote. | ||
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On January 16 2016 08:30 GreYMisT wrote: Half the sky answered this correctly, but If I understand you correctly the better option would just be to cancle your action and say, "I'd rather not poison disformation, i'd like to poison X instead." This is because, for the vast majority of cases (if not all of them), a role that acts at night resolves at the end of the night cycle. So your action is never locked in until the deadline. Aaaaaaaahhhh of course. I am stupid. No wait. That means the victim dies not 48 hours after my PM is sent, but 48 hours after the night cycle is resolved? So basically EoD? | ||
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Okay, that basically answers my question. | ||
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On January 18 2016 09:19 GreYMisT wrote: We would prefer to have 2 more beyond you to have 22-23 players. Half the sky reviewed some balance stuff with me and we think that number is the fairest beyond 17 Didn't you forget to add copcake? Should be 22 with Palmar after my count? edit: you ninja you. =/ | ||
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time will be a bit tight for me during the number pick cycle aka the first 24 hours. Rest of this week and next week looking good so far. | ||
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On January 19 2016 02:07 AlotSomuch wrote: Good lord, that's alot. /in. yeah, this is going to be a crazy one. Night actions will be all over the place. =D | ||
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Yeah, super HYPE for it to start already. xD Probably will mess up the number picking and/or my role though, but I'll try to maximise my fun this game. xD | ||
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On January 19 2016 05:58 GreYMisT wrote: Due to new balance concers brought on by the change in KP, Link, the Hero of Time's ability: Blade of Evil's Bane may not be used night 1. FUCK I WANTED TO DO THAT | ||
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On January 19 2016 06:01 GreYMisT wrote: Well it was either that or change the power to a weird and harder to understand passive, but I like this better. Yeah, totally makes sense. Was just one of the options I liked, since it is a) very hilarious and b) pretty good if you are town. And would have allowed me to not think about his other stuff. | ||
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If the person you target at night dies, is your power refunded? Or did you literally gamble away your power? | ||
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HHHHHHHHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE! Lemme get some D20 and roll out some numbers. | ||
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On January 19 2016 08:47 disformation wrote: Rolled up an [8,3] have a feeling these dice will kill me in the Pathfinder session tomorrow evening, but whatever. So after seeing everyone using an [x,1] combination and looking at the OP again, I decided that using a 1 as my second number would be probably better. So [8,1]. Probably maybe under some circumstances will not change. Or maybe I will. Buuuut on the other hand, as I said pre game I don't have much time tomorrow. So it will probably stay here. Maybe. | ||
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On January 19 2016 09:15 Tictock wrote: Pffft, yea if you care about winning. Clearly game is actually about picking the dopest role to prove your skills. Though if you wanna get your medic on that's cool. winner of this game is who had the most fun. | ||
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On January 19 2016 09:08 Tictock wrote: Yay I think I have 2 town reads. and we haven't even started the game proper FYI I'm probably never saying what I pick. It may or may not be a number I throw out, and I'm not above tanking somebody's spot just kus. Reads? Care to share who/why? On January 19 2016 09:27 Superbia wrote: I already have this game 10% solved. Does that mean you have the alignment of 2.2 ppl figured out or that you have found 0.8 scum? | ||
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On January 19 2016 09:43 Tictock wrote: Thinking Koshi and Superbia town. Kinda based on meta as well as their mindset. I could see mafia claiming to go for dreamflower though, it's an obviusly pro-town role and might give them some easy cred. For whatever reason I believe Super is seriously going for it though, which is a risky move for mafia. Well, that are both the ppl I made notes of so far. xD Superbia going for Dreamflower smells a bit of wine to me though, but that could have different reasons. Also felt kinda genuine to me. Would lean town. Second thing I noted was koshi dumbtelling and his reaction on being called out on that. Would town lean as well. On January 19 2016 09:45 Tictock wrote: What will I be spending my mafia points on? Kus I kinda don't like this post... Can you narrow down what you don't like about this post? | ||
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On January 19 2016 10:18 ObiWanShinobi wrote: I'm going to pick 3, 1. Nobody else is allowed to pick my numbers. NOBODY. On January 19 2016 09:29 Koshi wrote: [3,1] is Koshi. I will hunt the person responsible down if I get Mysterious Challenger. That card is OP as shit, I hate it. *cough cough* I think kita picked 4,1. Next free should be 5,1? | ||
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On January 19 2016 11:00 CopCake wrote: Sup soooo where do I pick powers? From the OP: After the 24 hours, the pick order list will be revealed (I will Not include what numbers everyone chose), and all players will have 24 hours to select a role from the below list. Selections must, again, be messaged to me and Half the Sky. But the pick phase only begins at Wednesday, Jan 20 12:00am GMT (GMT+00:00) in . Currently we are determining the pick order list. As explained here: On January 13 2016 05:45 GreYMisT wrote: Pick Order The game will begin after alignments have been sent out. At that point all players are free to communicate in the thread and in their mafia chat. During the next 24 hours all players must submit to both hosts a set of 2 numbers between 1 and 20, presented as [1],[12] (for example). Once collected, these numbers will determine your pick order. The first number is your “true” pick order number, while the second is your tiebreaker number in case someone else picks the same first number as you. The player with the first number closest to 1 will be highest in the pick order. However, if more than 1 player picks the same first number, all of those players will be moved to the back of the pick order. This will continue until all players have been assigned a pick order. This same process will be repeated for each player’s second number, in order to determine ordering within each group of tied first numbers. An example of how this might play out can be found below. + Show Spoiler [pick order demonstration] + Player A - [4][19] Player B - [1][12] Player C - [1][6] Player D - [7][8] Player E - [3][4] Player F - [7][8] Player G - [7][20] Players B and C both picked 1. They go to the back of the queue. Player E is the next lowest # and the only one that picked 3. He/She goes first. Then player A since He/She is the only one to pick 4. Then Player D would have been next with 7 ahead of B and C, but Player's F and G also picked 7 so they both go behind Players B and C. Current Order: Bolded players are locked into position. Player E Player A Player B Player C Player D Player F Player G Now I just resolve Players B, C, D,F and G. Between B and C, I look at the second #. B has a 12, C has a 6. So C gets to pick before B. Current Order: Bolded players are locked into position. Player E Player A Player C Player B Player D Player F Now between D,F and G they all picked the same 1st numbers [7][?]. So I look at the second number to determine their order. Player G has a different number [7][20] whereas D and F both have [7][8]. Same rule as before and G gets to pick before D and F. Player E Player A Player C Player B Player G Player D Player F In the case of D and F I roll a dice to determine who goes first since they have the same 2 numbers. For arguments sake lets say F got a 1 and D got a 3 on a dice roll. F goes before D. Player E Player A Player C Player B Player G Player F Player D If a player fails to submit numbers, they will automatically be at the bottom of the pick order. If more than one player fails to submit numbers, then I will be sad, vengeful, and will randomize who goes first between them. Again you have until Wednesday, Jan 20 12:00am GMT (GMT+00:00) in to submit these numbers, if you haven't done so. | ||
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For what it is worth I'll throw a TR at TT, since I feel like he is really trying to figure out the game already, while most ppl are preoccupied with the pick order and roles. While I mentioned this stuff: not entirely sure what I think about picking roles based on pick order and/or priority or something. Like I am not sure if the benefit outweighs the costs and someone said that there are a bunch of roles that are hard to hold ppl accountable for/verify, need to think about that, but it could mean that there is room for scum to mess with the pick order and/or pick something else. Will try to squeeze in some time tomorrow afternoon and think about this a bit more. | ||
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think i forgot to mention that i would love to have the full detective trio (holmes, watson, mortuary) in the house. | ||
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On January 19 2016 21:18 Palmar wrote: mass claiming d1 is generally fine unless there is some kind of a witch role that matches players with roles and murders them. there's too many targets for mafia to kill, and it really helps Isn't that exactly what Ezio does? On January 19 2016 22:59 Rels wrote: Man, Ezio is kinda bad compared to others for town, but super good for mafia. Should be in the "policy" category IMO. I think directing the role distribution is super good though: - we can hold people accountable - if someone important is for example roleblocked, we have a list of person that couldn't do it - it assures town to have good roles Okay, how would this picking by pick order work exactly? Like once the pick order is established. We start with the first person to announce which role he/she wants and that has to be one of the roles very good for town? Which would also mean everyone would know everyone's role from the beginning. Another advantage would be the minimization of overlap and therefore wild card mysterious challengers in the game. Still not 100% about this, so if someone could explain a bit more in detail what the actual process of picking by pick order would entail that would be appreciated. | ||
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On January 19 2016 23:13 disformation wrote: Oh read ezio again, remembered him wrong. Thought he could deal KP. You know him being an assassin and stuff. xD EBWOP | ||
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On January 19 2016 23:15 Rels wrote: I don't know how we could do it in details, but in general it's good for the reasons above. Especially the lack of mysterious challengers; after all, there are only 8 mafia, if everybody picks good roles, it means 14 townies has separate and good roles. I didn't count the number of roles but I assume there are more than 22. p: Now for the details, I suppose we just go down kita's tier list, like people just announce what they pick and we can talk about it. Hmm... sounds fair enough. Trying to think of scenarios in which scum could try and mess with that. Like pick order A B C D E If D was a scum player he could pick the role E was going to take. This would force E into Mysterious Challenger and basically denies town two good roles (cause 1 is in the hands of player D). This has the drawback for scum that player E will be very mad and 100% will try to find the scum in A B C D. Which means this also only works if D and E would have picked very similar roles, so D doesn't get outed after N1. Giving up some of the prot roles to scum might also not be that bad though, they might run into problems for protecting their teammates over obv town ppl in the long run. Might also lead to hilarious situations where scum team A protects a towner from KP by scum team B. xD Biggest drawback is like scum smuggling in some roles like ezio, but that will probably be discovered after a night or two. That stuff is really complicated. xD Any thoughts? Do I make sense? I think I am down for the picking by pick order thing. | ||
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Not really liking Vivax and CopCake so far. Both seem rather uncooperative. | ||
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Seeing as you are directly behind me... you really did that did you? Care to enlighten me as to why? | ||
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On January 20 2016 09:10 Damdred wrote: What numbers did you pick dis Same I announced in thread 8,1. | ||
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Okay. Soo then I have to look at tictock. =/ Shouldn't be too mad. Still at like 50%. | ||
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Still want TT to explain why he felt like picking the same number as me. =/ | ||
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On January 20 2016 09:47 Palmar wrote: correct me if I'm wrong, but don't people roll mysterious challenger roles if they get vanilla townied (ie: pick a role that's already been picked) if that's the case, do you mind picking a random role that should have been picked before you on our list, and thus be pushed to mysterious challenger? You can also choose to be a mysterious challenger and then remove up to 3 roles from the mysterious challenger pool. | ||
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On January 20 2016 10:10 Palmar wrote: Before I go to sleep, this is the outline of a plan that I'm slowly formulating, it's not very well thought through yet, mostly because I don't really know most of the roles, but here goes: 1. Keirathi - Trust level quite low: Force to pick gambler or dreamflower 2. Superbia - Trust level high. Should probably pick Link 3. ObiWanShinobi - Trust level moderate. I'd be okay with any investigative role here 4. Rels - Trust level moderate, investigative or KP role is good 5. Palmar - Trust level highest. I'll either pick CPR doc or arrow 6. geript - Trust level fairly high. I want him on an investigative role I think 7. Breshke - Trust level quite low. Force to pick protective 8. Koshi - Crazy, can't deal with him probably 9. Cephiro - Scum. Force into a completely neutered scumrole pls (like pure investigative or df/gambler) 10. kitaman27 - Trust level low to moderate. Good for a protective role 11. Vivax - Scum (force to pick dreamflower or gambler?) 12. Tictock - idk 13. disformation - low trust 14. Fecalfeast - low trust 15. Damdred - moderate trust, but not too much. 16. AlotSomuch - low trust 17. VayneAuthority - low trust 18. The Shining - low trust 19. Onegu - dumbass, can't deal with him 20. Sicklucker - Trust level high. either use him as a check, or get him kita, or get him a good role by forcing it to drop 21. Copcake - Whatever, preferably we try to force her into a role 22. GlowingBear - Whatever, preferably we try to force him into a role the bunch of people with low trust in the bottom half on the list should probably try to grab PROTECTIVE or INVESTIGATIVE roles. I will revise my list of people I trust later on in the game, but I will not accept any excuse for people picking KP roles unless they're on my trusted list. Current people I'd trust with KP are: Superbia Me geript sicklucker I need 2-3 more names on this list. How to get onto the list? there's two options 1. Post well and play well so I townread you. 2. Someone else (a third party) makes a good argument for you being town. If anyone has a problem with anyone on my trust list, then let me know. Palmar I think you might have some trust issues. ;D Also idk about TT. Like I thought he was town, but his unexplained number ninja onto me super confuses me. So, hope he shows up soonish. But I would be okay picking like Doc, Watson or House. *shrugs* Still love the idea of having the whole detective trio in play. | ||
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On January 20 2016 11:07 Tictock wrote: Tbh it was a bit of a tossup if I wanted to hit 1:1, 4:1, or 8:1 1:1 was mostly just kus. 4:1 was what I was thinking of picking before game started, also I wouldn't have minded blocking Kita. 8:1 was to block you. I went with my gut and blocked you. Both you and Kita are mild scum leans based on what I've been able to read thus far. Largely based on tone and some meta, so eh. mild scum lean, blocks number. "k". not being cooperative. "k". not sure I want to have a town lean on you anymore. | ||
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On January 20 2016 11:35 Breshke wrote: TT could you expand on the kita scumlean and why you considered blocking him. Also I am looking for 1 x Sherlock Holmes and 1 x Professor Moriarty Would be willing to be either of those, but I am only 13/22 in the order, so other ppl might want to pick those up. Totally not sure on the picking stuff right now tbh... a lot of ppl haven't talked about their preference, but I would be down for a prot role or one of the trio. | ||
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On January 20 2016 11:42 Tictock wrote: Fair enough. I wasn't the biggest fan of your read on me anyhow, and I felt like you were being a little to agreeable. Dunno, I liked how you started figuring alignments out pretty early, asked you about your reads, was able to agree with them, since the notes I had taken were basically the same. *shrugs* That is probably what gave you this agreeable impression from, so in hindsight I kinda understand. | ||
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On January 20 2016 12:52 CopCake wrote: Excuse me I claimed to have been busy, you mafia looking for someone to blame dude? Nah, town looking for scum. I'll be honest: inactivity is a bit of a turn-off for me. TBH was a bit turned-off that you didn't claim which number you picked, hence the uncooperative bit, but it seems like you didn't even picked one... so nvm for now. On January 20 2016 21:10 GlowingBear wrote: Do we have a voting thread? I can't find a voting thread voting thread So being #13 I don't really want to pick something that might be taken. Could go traditional doc or JK. I just hope I don't get weak cop. around 33% or 38% of dying N1, depending on whether we lynch scum D1 seems a bit harsh. :/ | ||
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On January 20 2016 23:39 disformation wrote: Nah, town looking for scum. I'll be honest: inactivity is a bit of a turn-off for me. TBH was a bit turned-off that you didn't claim which number you picked, hence the uncooperative bit, but it seems like you didn't even picked one... so nvm for now. voting thread So being #13 I don't really want to pick something that might be taken. Could go traditional doc or JK. I just hope I don't get weak cop. around 33% or 38% of dying N1, depending on whether we lynch scum D1 seems a bit harsh. :/ EBWOP: totally meant weak doc at the end not weak cop. xD Need more coffee. xD On January 20 2016 23:41 kitaman27 wrote: I'd rather you picked doc than JK to be honest. Eh. JK might be a bit iffy in the beginning where I want to use it protectively and end up rb-ing the good townsfolk which is a bit awkward since everyone should have quite good roles and actions they want to do this game... So I get where you are coming from. Will take a quick look at the list soon(TM) to see if there is something else, but probably going doc and hoping I get the normal/sane/whatever one sounds like a plan. | ||
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Hmmm... sounds like it could work. But of course is still a bit of a gamble. Like we could loose two towns for this. You know in cases where both the gambler and the guy he picked are town and he votes wrong. On the other hand that would also confirm the guy who was voted on? And I think it is "only" 1 KP that gets thrown at the gambler? So we could protect the gambler if we are fairly sure he is town. TBH would not be too fond of being "motivated" to bring out my A game, because I have a death warrant on me. Seems a bit dick-ish, but yeah that strategy could work out. xD | ||
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On January 20 2016 23:59 disformation wrote: Hmmm... sounds like it could work. But of course is still a bit of a gamble. Like we could loose two towns for this. You know in cases where both the gambler and the guy he picked are town and he votes wrong. On the other hand that would also confirm the guy who was voted on? And I think it is "only" 1 KP that gets thrown at the gambler? So we could protect the gambler if we are fairly sure he is town. TBH would not be too fond of being "motivated" to bring out my A game, because I have a death warrant on me. Seems a bit dick-ish, but yeah that strategy could work out. xD nevermind I think I misremembered the gambler role... -.- | ||
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Have a difficult time forming reads so far, since most of the discussion is focused on setup, numbers and roles. IMO most of that stuff is pretty NAI as it can come from both sides. Some of my notes:
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On January 21 2016 01:08 Rels wrote: Why did you force the "capslock episode" forced ? The capslock level in those posts is so ridiculous high that I can't help but feel like you are overexaggeratating and trying to force the "lord am I excited bout this!" tone. | ||
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On January 21 2016 03:29 GlowingBear wrote: I mean, obviously, but I choose only one role? On January 13 2016 05:45 GreYMisT wrote: Role Selection After the 24 hours, the pick order list will be revealed (I will Not include what numbers everyone chose), and all players will have 24 hours to select a role from the below list. Selections must, again, be messaged to me and Half the Sky. If a player tries to select a role that has already been picked by someone with a higher pick order than them, they will receive the Mysterious Challenger role. The Mysterious Challenger is a role option that, when chosen, randomly gives the selector a role from the Mysterious Challenger list. If the Mysterious Challenger is picked voluntarily, the selector can designate ½ of the options that he does not want, and the role he gets will be randomized between the remaining roles. Roles that have already been selected from the list will be removed from the list. If for some reason all of the roles get removed from the list, all roles will be added back to the list. After 24 hours, role PMs will be sent out and Day 1 will begin. Added some bold. That plus the mysterious challenger rules highly suggest that you only can submit one role. | ||
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Can I can I can I? :D | ||
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On January 21 2016 03:51 disformation wrote: Hmm... would actually be really glad to take Watson instead of the traditional doctor. Saves me the trouble of figuring out if I am paranoid/weak/normal. Can I can I can I? :D On January 20 2016 11:14 Breshke wrote: So I am suggesting that i should pick Dr. John Watson I'm happy to pick a protective role which this is and as I am not a high priority NK I will be able to confirm sherlock and moriartys checks. Discuss Seems like Watson is already taken. =/ | ||
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Huh? As I said here: On January 21 2016 03:51 disformation wrote: Hmm... would actually be really glad to take Watson instead of the traditional doctor. Saves me the trouble of figuring out if I am paranoid/weak/normal. Can I can I can I? :D Additionally there is tons of upside if Holmes and Moriarty are in the game and they should be imo. So I kinda love the idea of being Holmes and was about to submit that pick, when I decided to double check and make sure that no one else wanted to be watson. You know since I kinda don't want to end up as mysterious challenger. So I did a Strg+F on Watson and found out Breshke wanted him. | ||
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On January 21 2016 04:35 Rels wrote: I need you to be around for a question, tell me when you're ready. sure. Also trying to catch up but the thread moves faster than I can read. @Palmar's plan: there are a few points where picks are like contested? Like breshke wanting to pick Watson, which could lead to FF being an ever doper MC. | ||
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Yeah. What's up? | ||
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On January 21 2016 06:00 Rels wrote: What was my reaction to Breshke wanting to take Watson ? Uh... I think you didn't like that idea at all first, cause you had a scum read on Breshke. Then you realized that it would be really easy to figure out if would be lying about the sanities of holmes and mortuary. Do you still think Breshke is scum? | ||
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On January 21 2016 06:05 Rels wrote: OK good p: checking if you really read the thread Yep I still think Breshke is scum Fair enough. TBH I more like went STRG+F "Watson" on the thread, as implied earlier. Good thing you asked me about Watson related stuff then. xD Probably need to take a look at Breshke's filter. He is one of the guys I don't really remember so far. | ||
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On January 21 2016 06:07 GreYMisT wrote: Reminder, 2 hours remain to send your role choice to both me and half the sky. Once those 2 hours are up Day 1 will begin! So in one hour? starting to get confused here. one sec. | ||
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Vayne: Hero Damdy: Nigella Lawson Me: Doc Koshi: Werner von braun kitman: Dr. Sy N. Tist shining: TTV or yu not sure? cephiro: dreamflower | ||
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On January 21 2016 07:11 disformation wrote: "Recent" role claims: Vayne: Hero Damdy: Nigella Lawson Me: Doc Koshi: Werner von braun kitman: Dr. Sy N. Tist shining: TTV or yu not sure? cephiro: dreamflower Keirathi: house kinda sucks I cant edit posts -.- | ||
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On January 21 2016 07:12 disformation wrote: Keirathi: house kinda sucks I cant edit posts -.- Vayne: Hero Damdy: Koshi: Werner von braun shining: TTV or yu not sure? cephiro: dreamflower Keirathi: Rels: Superbia: CPR doc Palmar: arrow breshke: watson or ??? FF: watson or ??? Vivax: ??? Copcake: ??? geript: sicklucker: not sure 1. disformation - doc 2. kitaman27 - Dr. Sy N. Tist 3. Rels - Captain Malcolm 4. Onegu - ??? 5. Keirathi - house 6. GlowingBear - ??? 7. Damdred - Nigella Lawson 8. Tictock - ??? 9. ObiWanShinobi - ??? 10. Breshke - watson or ??? 11. AlotSomuch - gambler 12. Superbia - CPR doc 13. Koshi - Werner von braun 14. VayneAuthority - Hero 15. The Shining - TTV or yu not sure? 16. Fecalfeast - watson or FF 17. sicklucker - not sure? 18. Cephiro - dreamflower 19. geript - link 20. Vivax - ??? 21. CopCake - ??? 22. Palmar - arrow | ||
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On January 21 2016 07:22 disformation wrote: Vayne: Hero Damdy: Koshi: Werner von braun shining: TTV or yu not sure? cephiro: dreamflower Keirathi: Rels: Superbia: CPR doc Palmar: arrow breshke: watson or ??? FF: watson or ??? Vivax: ??? Copcake: ??? geript: sicklucker: not sure 1. disformation - doc 2. kitaman27 - Dr. Sy N. Tist 3. Rels - Captain Malcolm 4. Onegu - ??? 5. Keirathi - house 6. GlowingBear - ??? 7. Damdred - Nigella Lawson 8. Tictock - ??? 9. ObiWanShinobi - ??? 10. Breshke - watson or ??? 11. AlotSomuch - gambler 12. Superbia - CPR doc 13. Koshi - Werner von braun 14. VayneAuthority - Hero 15. The Shining - TTV or yu not sure? 16. Fecalfeast - watson or FF 17. sicklucker - not sure? 18. Cephiro - dreamflower 19. geript - link 20. Vivax - ??? 21. CopCake - ??? 22. Palmar - arrow FFS. sry dudes. 1. disformation - doc 2. kitaman27 - Dr. Sy N. Tist 3. Rels - Captain Malcolm 4. Onegu - ??? 5. Keirathi - house 6. GlowingBear - ??? 7. Damdred - Nigella Lawson 8. Tictock - ??? 9. ObiWanShinobi - ??? 10. Breshke - watson or ??? 11. AlotSomuch - gambler 12. Superbia - CPR doc 13. Koshi - Werner von braun 14. VayneAuthority - Hero 15. The Shining - TTV 16. Fecalfeast - watson or FF 17. sicklucker - not sure? 18. Cephiro - dreamflower 19. geript - link 20. Vivax - ??? 21. CopCake - ??? 22. Palmar - arrow bunch of ??? not sure I like. Can we get the other two detectives plx? | ||
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On January 21 2016 07:26 AlotSomuch wrote: I'm actually sticking with palmer's plan and taking kita. Why did you automatically assume we'd follow what Kita said? Cause you said so: On January 21 2016 04:50 AlotSomuch wrote: I'm fine with Kitaman27. /approved | ||
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On January 21 2016 07:28 Breshke wrote: someone has to pick watson then. disfo you can have it now if you like wut? I like, but what are you picking then? oO | ||
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On January 21 2016 07:30 AlotSomuch wrote: I said I would take the role of kitaman like palmer assigned me...yet in your list you put me down as gambler, which is what kita(the person) suggested I should take. Ah, sry missread that then. Was just looking at your filter for role picks and had missed that context. I thought you were approving of kitamans changes and he had you as a gambler. Was in a bit of a rush cause I was not sure when the DL is. | ||
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1. disformation - watson (?) 2. kitaman27 - Dr. Sy N. Tist 3. Rels - Captain Malcolm 4. Onegu - ??? 5. Keirathi - house 6. GlowingBear - ??? 7. Damdred - Nigella Lawson 8. Tictock - ??? 9. ObiWanShinobi - ??? 10. Breshke - Sherlock Holmes 11. AlotSomuch - kitaman27 12. Superbia - CPR doc 13. Koshi - Werner von braun 14. VayneAuthority - Hero 15. The Shining - TTV 16. Fecalfeast - gambler 17. sicklucker - not sure? 18. Cephiro - dreamflower 19. geript - link 20. Vivax - ??? 21. CopCake - ??? 22. Palmar - arrow | ||
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On January 21 2016 07:34 Fecalfeast wrote: disform with the misleading list, using the signups list and not the pick order list shit. great idea. OP has no link to the that list... rip give me a second. | ||
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1. Keirathi - house 2. Superbia - CPR doc 3. ObiWanShinobi - ??? 4. Rels - Captain Malcolm 5. Palmar - arrow 6. geript - link 7. Breshke - holmes 8. Koshi - Werner von braun 9. Cephiro - dreamflower 10. kitaman27 - Dr. Sy N. Tist 11. Vivax - ??? 12. Tictock - ??? 13. disformation - Watson 14. Fecalfeast - gambler 15. Damdred - Nigella Lawson 16. AlotSomuch - kitaman27 17. VayneAuthority - hero 18. The Shining - TTV 19. Onegu - ??? 20. Sicklucker - ??? 21. Copcake - ??? 22. GlowingBear - ??? | ||
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so imma change to watson now, if no one has complaints | ||
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On January 21 2016 07:54 Fecalfeast wrote: to be fair disform did all the work ij ust ordered it Also was about to drop that list, but you ninjaed me by like 9 seconds you sexy ninja you. ;D Also sent in PM's with a watson pick. If anyone wants to complain bout that: 1h left. | ||
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On January 21 2016 07:57 Superbia wrote: Nigella Lawson and Doctor still open.. I think either of those is great. Damdred wants Nigella Lawson. | ||
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On January 21 2016 08:21 Palmar wrote: Palmar's list of mafia people that sound like mafia all the time: Kitaman Cephiro Keirathi Vivax Glowingbear Then there's some meh people that might be mafia too: Onegu disformation ticktock Alotsomuch That's 9 people, there's probably some mafia in there. wow such reads. On January 21 2016 08:25 The Shining wrote: Outside of kita and Ceph(your interaction with him gave me town v town vibes), this actually doesn't look bad. Why kita? I know you had some disagreement over the role assignments but he's arguably doing the most work with it besides you. Were do all these weak ass scum reads on me come from? "I don't like his tone..." "I think I read like a post I didn't like..." "He is meh..." Can you at least throw me a decent reason? | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + Should I reveal my medical notes on Professor Moriarty as, well? | ||
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On January 21 2016 09:23 Superbia wrote: No real reason not to reveal it imo. But we can discuss this some more at EoD or night or whatever. Really no reason to rush this information. Alright. Will keep these notes under seal for now. | ||
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On January 21 2016 17:56 Palmar wrote: I just read disformation's filter and I have little idea what his alignment is. Some times he sounds a bit fake tonally, but he did pick a sweet role for town, and he is actually putting in management work through getting the role list nailed down so meh. I liked his "trust issues" comment on me, and I didn't mind his early townread on TT. Then he had some tonally weird things like the lemon-tree comment about TT in his list, which unless that's some kind of an inside joke, it feels like a very weird thing to call people. I think the conclusion is I have no real interest in lynching him today. I want more hard reads from him though. If his filter had a few decently constructed reads in it I'd feel a lot more comfortable. I think he'd be a pretty good check. Also his reaction to the scumreads was maybe a bit over the top. Not sure if it's genuine to care so much about a few shitty "maybe scum" reads. Unless he thinks he has played townie enough to warrant a universal townread or something. Lemon-tree is my new name for my "wtf banana boat" or simpy "bananaboat" read category. Which stands for people I can't read or otherwise have a very hard time reaching a conclusion on. Similar to how you null read me. I have used the bananaboat read category as both alignments before (nsm 17 and dark tournament). Why lemon tree? Cause yellow. Duh. If you have a problem with these names, imma channel my inner ritoky. + Show Spoiler + Some random ass reads: The Shining Like his posts today. Town. Vivax Me no like. How is his meta? Like does he prefer one of the alignments over the other? Is activity alignment indicative for him? GB I think I saw a post or two of him I did like. Need to read filter. kitaman27 Yeah, he had a lot of NAI posts bout setup, but most of his comments/suggestions made sense to me, so not sure here. Probably should read filter. Damdy Not sold, but probably not a good lunch today. copcake Lemon-tree. TT Lemon-tree. Also just remembered that I wanted to look at Breshke. On January 21 2016 20:25 Koshi wrote: I understand now what I need to do. ##unvote ##vote VayneAuthority In Vayne we trust. Koshi can you explain this to me? Like if he really has that hero role, wouldn't alignment checking/tracking/maybe if you really think he is scum, shooting him be better? Any questions? Otherwise I'll look at more pps and find the scum. | ||
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Wasn't he also here earlier and gtfoed? On January 21 2016 19:33 Vivax wrote: I got quite the pro town role. Breakfast time :> On January 21 2016 19:46 Vivax wrote: Koshi is there anyone in this game you really want dead. On January 21 2016 19:47 Vivax wrote: More of a rhetorical question Yeah, pretty much. Can anyone answer my meta questions on him? | ||
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On January 20 2016 00:55 Vivax wrote: Picking 1 1, obviously a lie. Obviously the truth. Pretty much sums up why this shitty number claiming strat won't do jack. Where he basically started to being all pissy and angry, when stuff started to get organized. Happy to put my vote on him. | ||
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On January 21 2016 22:23 Koshi wrote: disformation, Because if we lynch VA he can pick somebody who voted on him. Imo everybody should vote for him. Maybe my 3 hours of sleep and the 5 cups of coffee are talking here, but I don't understand your line of thinking here. You think he is 100% town and should decide the lynch alone? Oo | ||
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On January 21 2016 22:25 disformation wrote: Maybe my 3 hours of sleep and the 5 cups of coffee are talking here, but I don't understand your line of thinking here. You think he is 100% town and should decide the lynch alone? Oo If that is your plan I don't like. Denies us VCA. | ||
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Mostly NAI setup stuff, here and there a line or question that could be nice, but don't see those going anywhere. I like that he was trying to make the detective trio happen. I'd like Breshke to be town so we can out-rap scum together. + Show Spoiler + So I am slightly biased, but I want to see some reads and stuff. | ||
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On January 21 2016 22:33 Koshi wrote: PS: you people are forgetting we use the word flowers now. Careful. sure thing sweetheart. | ||
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On January 21 2016 22:37 Rels wrote: Yep but all of this doesn't matter 'cause he's Sherlock (= he just checks someone every night: he lies we kill him, he doesn't lie we get checks. (= Onto Onegu now! Hmmm. Fair enough. | ||
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On January 21 2016 22:41 Rels wrote: Fuck I actually have work to do, Onegu will have to wait. Be back later p: And comments on my Alot case and Vivax' filter would be awesome Kinda forgot Alot was in this game... that is a bad sign in itself. After looking at this filter I found out why. Yeah, me no like. This game has soo many filters that don't turn me on. =/ Not really digging VA either. I think some ppl townread him, why? | ||
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On January 21 2016 23:06 Palmar wrote: I want to lynch Kita over Vivax btw. I think I've made that clear. Think I should look at kita again. On January 21 2016 23:19 GlowingBear wrote: You guys are discussing role and mechanics hoping this will help you find mafia when it helps nothing with the game. 99% of the time town tried to solve the game with mechanics, they lose Can we stop talking about roles and let people do what they want with what they got and stick to actually playing the game how it is intended? I agree. Like organizing picks and talking about roles was imo pretty good for town to do D0. ppl who still only talk about mechanics and roles might actually be scum looking to post without contributing much now that the game has started for real. Need to keep an eye open for that. | ||
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On January 21 2016 23:31 kitaman27 wrote: This seems like a post similar to the Vivax one. Show up to complain about something, but does nothing to advance the thread. Usually comes from mafia. Hm. Right. Need to look at GB again, too. Also starting to think that rels is town and his capslock stuff just rubbed me the wrong way. | ||
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I also need to start making notes or something. I thought there were a few GB posts I liked. His filter has nuthin'. | ||
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On January 21 2016 23:39 Koshi wrote: We wait. I can amuse myself typing nonsense 24/7. Nobody even thinks I am mafia for some reason. If I would play mafia. I think I could easily do it like this. easy. Oh good point. Should have mentioned that I am droping my TR on you until you start to make sense again. | ||
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On January 21 2016 23:44 Koshi wrote: I don't even understand why you people think this is a normal game in which we will use deduction to declare a winner. On January 19 2016 09:17 disformation wrote: winner of this game is who had the most fun. | ||
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On January 22 2016 00:06 kitaman27 wrote: Well if we disagree about one read, that doesn't mean we can't be productive when narrowing down the other 7, right? Anything you feel is majorly wrong with that list aside from the Palmar one? Also, I asked that you reply to an earlier post whenever you have the chance. Thank you kindly. Maybe I should TR Koshi after all. At least he is kinda make me smile. Scum usually doesn't manage that. Still would prefer lyching one of those unsexy filter dudes. + Show Spoiler + inb4 last minute shennanies onto VA Struggling a bit with getting a proper kita read. Will probably eat something first and then come back to that. | ||
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On January 22 2016 00:15 Palmar wrote: Remember that Kita is almost as good as mafia as I am, so high expectations for him. Hmm... okay. Never played with kita or seen him play before. + Show Spoiler + Like never played in a game of mafia with him. Obviously. WTF were you thinking? On January 22 2016 00:31 GlowingBear wrote: I've never saw a survey being wrong. It's like lying with your hands on top of a bible. My second monitor rests upon a bible. Does that mean everything displayed on that monitor is true as well? BRB gonna meet all these local... uh... ladies... that... uh... like want to meet up to... eh... talk about our lord and saviour? On January 22 2016 00:38 GlowingBear wrote: Is anyone townreading Sicklucker? sicklucker is in this game? | ||
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Well most of his filter so far is planning and setup/roles/number/mechanics stuff. So not too impressed. That being said a lot of his suggestions made kinda sense to me, so I am not sure why you are scumreading him for that. If I go ahead and say that all the setup/roles/number/mechanics stuff ared NAI his filter is not the most exciting, but TBH we have tons of ppl with a bad/empty/unexciting filters so far, so I'd prefer to lynch someone who didn't give a flower during the organization phase. So then there was this vivax thing. On January 20 2016 03:36 kitaman27 wrote: Vivax was the first person that I picked out as mafia too. Shows up to complain about something, but doesn't do anything about it. Agreeing on a scum read on a dude, after he has asked him a question and the answer was not great doesn't look wrong to me. The wording with the "first" may be a bit off, but I am not seeing how this makes kita like slamdunk scum. Maybe I missed something in his filter or Palmar's point cause tired as flower, but I don't think we should lynch kita based of these things. Like slightest townlean when compared to the dudes and dudettes who didn't even care about that organization part. Also:+ Show Spoiler + | ||
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On January 22 2016 02:23 Superbia wrote: No, you get sanity from both regardless whether they are in the game. Hmm... understood the may part of the role description wrong should this be correct. But since it seems like GB didn't get him, he should be very much in the game, so w/e. xD | ||
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I think I observed/shadowed in the game where you used that smurf. Totally forgot that it was yours. | ||
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On January 22 2016 05:05 Tictock wrote: No real reason to worry about him imo, though I'd put money on him being town. Like if he's mafia he'll prob keep acting in the interest of town and help find the opposing team. "I'd put money on him being town, cuz if he is mafia he is his probably still helping town." What kind of flowers are you smoking? On January 22 2016 05:06 The Shining wrote: So you want the D1 lynch to be decided by VA alone? Would be interested in the answer, too. On January 22 2016 05:20 Tictock wrote: Thought you were doing that already... Started taking notes. Stopped taking notes. Regretted stopping taking notes. I think I tried this notes thing in like 4/6 of my games here, never really managed to do so all game. Should just not mention these flowers anymore. | ||
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On January 22 2016 05:47 disformation wrote: "I'd put money on him being town, cuz if he is mafia he is his probably still helping town." What kind of flowers are you smoking? Actually. This is like your first mention of Breshke in your filter. Aside from him being sortable via role stuff, where does your town read come from? | ||
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On January 22 2016 05:51 Koshi wrote: Reading the thread is a very useful talent toi have. fixed. + Show Spoiler + | ||
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On January 22 2016 05:58 sicklucker wrote: Anyone making a list of claimed roles? dont you fuckers make me do it On January 21 2016 20:36 Rels wrote: OK caught up. First thing (shamelessly stolen from disfo + completed): + Show Spoiler [role list] + 1. Keirathi - house 2. Superbia - CPR doc 3. ObiWanShinobi - Nigella 4. Rels - Captain Malcolm 5. Palmar - arrow 6. geript - link 7. Breshke - holmes 8. Koshi - Werner von braun 9. Cephiro - dreamflower 10. kitaman27 - Dr. Sy N. Tist 11. Vivax - ??? 12. Tictock - Mysterious challenger (???) 13. disformation - Watson 14. Fecalfeast - Moriarty 15. Damdred - doc 16. AlotSomuch - kitaman27 17. VayneAuthority - hero 18. The Shining - TTV 19. Onegu - ??? 20. Sicklucker - ??? 21. Copcake - Mysterious challenger (???) 22. GlowingBear - Flowey Copcake said she was randomed a role so I assume it means she got a mysterious challenger. If your role was stolen you need to claim it now. If you claim that after D1 we will lynch you first to check. These person need to claim what role they got: 11. Vivax - ??? 12. Tictock - Mysterious challenger (???) 19. Onegu - ??? 20. Sicklucker - ??? 21. Copcake - Mysterious challenger (???) Only thing not right in that list is that GB checked if moriarty was taken and therefore got MC. | ||
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On January 22 2016 06:01 kitaman27 wrote: Re-read through Vivax's pretty short filter again though I don't have much to add. So far it seems pretty similar to the afk scum vivax from TL Mafia LXXIII: The Nutcracker. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/499399-tl-mafia-lxxiii-the-nutcracker?user=Vivax I know I was pretty deadset on him being mafia in the recent resistance game until he suddenly turned on the activity so maybe he will show us something in the next 24 hours. If he continues to ignore the game, then I'd probably lynch him. This. Not sure why ppl aren't voting Vivax atm. Look at his really short filter. Like post #2 is him getting angry at town for organizing the number picks. Earlier today he showed up just to throw out 3 meaningless one liner posts and gtfos. | ||
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On January 22 2016 06:06 Tictock wrote: EBWOP: The sale strain. Fuck that 30% tax Good stuff. No I'd put money on him being town kus of a couple of subtle things he's done. His role keeps him invested in acting in town's interest for multiple reasons, even moreso if he's mafia. Least in imo. Yes, there are some townie points in Breshke's filter. But I am getting annoyed at how uncooperative you are. "No I'm not gonna explain why I am okay with VA deciding the lynch, while saying vivax looks like a solid lynch." "No I'm not gonna explain my breshke town read." "No I'm not gonna explain my disfo scum read." "No I'm not gonna tell you guys my numbers." -.- | ||
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"Why do you care about scum reads on you this much?" In both NSM 10 and 13 scum made really bad cases on me D1, So I like to believe that weak/bad scum cases on me are possibly alignment indicative, so I am very much interested in seeing ppl put out some reasons when they are scum reading me. | ||
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On January 22 2016 06:31 sicklucker wrote: 1. Keirathi - House 2. Superbia - CPR 3. ObiWanShinobi 4. Rels - Captain Reynolds 5. Palmar - Arrow 6. geript - Link 7. Breshke - Holmes 8. Koshi - German dude 9. Cephiro - Dreamflower 10. kitaman27 - Sy N Tist 11. Vivax - ??? 12. Tictock - ??? 13. disformation - Watson 14. Fecalfeast - Moriarty 0 confirmed? 15. Damdred - Doctor 16. AlotSomuch - kitaman27 17. VayneAuthority - Hero 18. The Shining - TT Vig 19. Onegu - ??? 20. Sicklucker - Not telling because im a bad ass town read 21. Copcake - ??? 22. GlowingBear - Mysterious challenger claimed moriaty On January 22 2016 06:17 Tictock wrote: Oh also I got Mysterious challenger as well kus I went for Werner but Koshi went for it first. | ||
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On January 22 2016 06:47 sicklucker wrote: Actually I was thinking of making some plays with my claim by claiming tommy the fireman or something(my original choice) but If i die or something we would lose this valuable information so ill just hard claim my role now. Im a mysterious challenged (acualy a nice role I was not lying about that) I checked Knight Artorias, the Abysswalker he is in play mafia has him FLOWER. | ||
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I want both of them super dead now. -.- | ||
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On January 22 2016 07:30 Cephiro wrote: Hosts, can you confirm if you just missed my vote or if it's not really counting? Also love all the flower talk, keep it up. One can always dream. + Show Spoiler + The voting thread is here. Only votes there will be counted. | ||
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On January 22 2016 09:53 Superbia wrote: Gonna sleep now. 1. Can someone read that alot OMGUS pls. It's leaving me confused. 2. Pressure on ???-flowers: - VIVAX - TICKTOCK - Onegu - Copcake - GlowingBear Claim. Your. Roles. Specify what challenger you have if you did get it. 3. These people need to show more of themselves: - Was making a list but pretty much everyone except for a few who already know who they are. 4. BE CAREFUL WITH VOTES. We do not want to push towards majority UNLESS we are 100% lynching that person. Due to artorias. All right. We lynch mafia tomorrow evening. Look forward to it. Added bold. | ||
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On January 22 2016 12:03 Tictock wrote: Cool, so did I. My position hasn't changed. 4 am not sober have tlake with a close friend for like 4hours straight. will not decide now. there are two posttibilites a= imma just lynch you for annyoing me v) imma say fuck roles and just lynch the guy i think is the most likely to flip scum. still might be you but i think vivianx is still more scummy. also random note. despite saying that maybe we should stop talking about roles and mechanics and ocus and flwoer s we still end up talking only about roles and mechanics and picks again... | ||
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On January 23 2016 00:04 Rels wrote: Actually rereading them this might very well be a busdriver taunt: I know someone said this yesterday. Just got up. Super groggy. Not sure why this is a busdriver taunt? Like he can only kill, after escaping a lynch or being the last scummer. He could redirect one of werner's rockets, but I remember werner having like tons of RB or other rockets, so ??? | ||
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On January 22 2016 13:17 Tictock wrote: Funny that you say this is the same breath that you're pushing me to claim my role... I really don't see you putting in much real thought this game Dis. You've spent a lot of time focused on me, but mostly you're just going with the flow. I'm used to town!Dis picking up on something and agonizing over it for half the day going back and forth and asking questions to try and make up your mind. Here you are basically agreeing with most of what people say and not sharing much of your own thinking. I get that you don't like me right now (you shouldn't), but honestly thinking I'm scum? I doubt it. Your not asking yourself real questions about what I'm doing, like why would I snipe your spot as scum when I saw you townreading me? Feels like I've become a scumread more out of convenience to you than any actual conviction behind it. Let me quote some beautiful advise I got during one of my NSM games: It takes a long while before you understand how meta actually even works. You see, meta is a trap. You think it's a beautiful Asian chick in those amazing school girl outfits with the typical anime hair. Then you realize it's not a chick at all and you done fucked up. Trust me,[...] Bonus points if someone is able to guess who told me that. Also you can be annoying town. | ||
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On January 23 2016 00:19 Rels wrote: I was thinking about bus driving Koshi and the person he named, so Koshi RB himself. You're right it's probably not indicative since it's not a KP. On January 21 2016 19:33 Vivax wrote: I got quite the pro town role. Breakfast time :> I like this more as an Artorias taunt. xD Though now I have to think about believing Vivax about his lemming claim. Would be great for him to explain that pick and stuff. | ||
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On January 23 2016 00:39 Palmar wrote: So yeah, we kill vivax today. If he flips something other than artorious we have alot look for it during the night. Someone who is not lazy needs to figure out of the kitaman role can be fucked with. Kitaman27 (New - TL Mafia Database) Thanks to your amazing work categorizing every action that every TL mafia player has ever taken, you can wield the power of the mighty Ctrl+F to learn whatever you need to about a player. Once per game, at night, you may PM the hosts and ask if a role is in the game. If the role is in the game, you will learn which player has that role. If that role is not in the game, you will gain all of the abilities of that role for the next night. Asked Half the Sky to make sure: busdriving the kitaman27 role does not work. RB'ing him works. From that I'll go ahead that tracking and watching the kitaman27 role does nothing, since he is not actually targeting a player. (also double checked this.) RB's that were picked according to the list/claims: geript - link Koshi - Werner von braun ObiWanShinobi - Nigella might have a rb, but I am not sure. | ||
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This. Also you haven't explained your read on Rels (or me for that matter) at all. | ||
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On January 23 2016 01:39 disformation wrote: This. Also you haven't explained your read on Rels (or me for that matter) at all. Also the read on GB. | ||
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On January 23 2016 01:40 Koshi wrote: Also, why are we not lynching the confirmed mafia with the abyswalker ability? ¿que If we knew who got that role, I would be glad to. Did I miss something? | ||
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On January 23 2016 01:45 Koshi wrote: Yes. 6 people are voting for a guy who we know doesn't have that ability, or at least can proof the ability he has. Why are we not voting for people who refuse to claim AND we think are scummy? They might be the confirmed scum. 1. Keirathi - house 2. Superbia - CPR doc 3. ObiWanShinobi - Nigella 4. Rels - Captain Malcolm 5. Palmar - arrow 6. geript - link 7. Breshke - holmes 8. Koshi - Werner von braun 9. Cephiro - dreamflower 10. kitaman27 - Dr. Sy N. Tist 11. Vivax - dimensional lemming 12. Tictock - Mysterious challenger (???) 13. disformation - Watson 14. Fecalfeast - Moriarty 15. Damdred - doc 16. AlotSomuch - kitaman27 17. VayneAuthority - hero 18. The Shining - TTV 19. Onegu - ??? 20. Sicklucker - Mysterious challenger (Cyrus) 21. Copcake - Mysterious challenger (???) 22. GlowingBear - Mysterious challenger (???) According to that list that would mean Onegu unless TT is lying about being MC. Unless one of those guys in front of sicklucker is lying and that are a ton of ppl. | ||
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On January 20 2016 00:55 Vivax wrote: Picking 1 1, obviously a lie. Obviously the truth. Pretty much sums up why this shitty number claiming strat won't do jack. 1. Gets angry when town starts to organize flowers and stuff. On January 20 2016 20:28 Vivax wrote: 8 mafia vs 14 town, any player in here has a 36 % chance of being mafia. Every third player posting something is statistically mafia. We might as well surrender to RNG instead of trying to argue about lynches knowing that a shitton of people is lying about them. The only question in this game is which mafia team wins. As such I don't plan on pouring any effort going beyond half assed in this game. 2. "I don't care about this crap, let us RNG the lynch. I won't even put effort into this game." On January 20 2016 22:39 Vivax wrote: Rels is probably the towniest fucker in here right now. [...] On January 23 2016 01:15 Vivax wrote: Disformation is mafia, rels is mafia 3. Added some bold here. Really want to hear him explain this. On January 21 2016 19:33 Vivax wrote: I got quite the pro town role. Breakfast time :> On January 21 2016 19:46 Vivax wrote: Koshi is there anyone in this game you really want dead. On January 21 2016 19:47 Vivax wrote: More of a rhetorical question 4. "Hi I am here, but I ain't gonna do flowers." Now he throws out a bunch of reads, but can't be flowered to explain like 2/3rds of them? And claims a like "give me 1 more day, plx" role? Think I am still pretty happy with where my vote is atm. | ||
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On January 23 2016 01:58 Koshi wrote: Wait you mean we can fucking lynch Onegu and most likely hit the fucking confirmed mafia??? Who the fuck is opposing that lynch? Great another koshi dies N1 because he is the only one with a brain. ##unvote ##vote Onegu Why do you believe Vivax's claim? | ||
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I think Vivax looks worse. but Onegu has been MIA and has not claimed. And Koshi's attitude is super strange to me. Might be a partner defending Vivax? Yeah, that is unflipped association and therefore bad, I just don't get some of the things he says and Onegu is a pretty easy target to switch to. | ||
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On January 23 2016 02:12 Koshi wrote: [...] PSII: I am extremely talented at this game and I have 0 interest to explain to you all why I am a genius and why this is the best play. That is the strange stuff I am referring, too. Also you ahven't explained your TR on Vivax. You only said why Onegu looks terrible. So I am having trouble seeing you as town. | ||
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other than that Koshi has some magical reasons to TR Vivax that I am apparently too dumb to get. Great. Kinda unhappy atm. | ||
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On January 23 2016 03:19 Koshi wrote: And if you are not mafia please teach me how to play like you do. 7 pages of filter and 0 chance a mafia would ever kill you. So far I only have been shot by mafia when I went to CC their fakeclaim during my first game on this site. | ||
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And please explain like I am 5 years old, cause apparently I don't have more brain capacity than that. case again: + Show Spoiler + On January 23 2016 01:59 disformation wrote: Vivax recap 1. Gets angry when town starts to organize flowers and stuff. 2. "I don't care about this crap, let us RNG the lynch. I won't even put effort into this game." 3. Added some bold here. Really want to hear him explain this. 4. "Hi I am here, but I ain't gonna do flowers." Now he throws out a bunch of reads, but can't be flowered to explain like 2/3rds of them? And claims a like "give me 1 more day, plx" role? Think I am still pretty happy with where my vote is atm. | ||
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On January 23 2016 05:29 Fecalfeast wrote: I call weed flowers when with friends, you guys are confusing my feeble brain with your censoring. Just had some flowers, ready to talk about what I read disform's case is all hinging on the fact that town!vivax would follow the plan. I've always viewed vivax as one of the dickish players so it doesn't hold much water for me. I still think Onegu is being somewhat genuine as well. Yeah he fucked around with numbers, yeah he won't claim his role, but he's been mafia a bunch lately you think he doesn't just try to afk all game like he has before? Vivax was being obtuse all early game and very obviously had disdain for the picking phase, as you pointed out disform. This isn't scum indicative because it seems like he wanted to go against palmar, rather than the town. This still isn't getting me to vote anyone but these are my thoughts right now Well, my case on Vivax does not only rely on that. He still hasn't explained a bunch of his reads and to me doesn't show a town perspective. Yes, I have not played with him (imo), but I was asking about his meta and didn't get any great responses onto that, so I am doing the sensible thing of only using the information I have from this game. I kinda like your point on Onegu, but Onegu himself says that you shouldn't meta read him. xD On January 23 2016 06:40 Tictock wrote: Aw fuck, I was forgetting that this is majority. Was thinking a couple of hours to consider shenannies/other wagons would be good. I do think Dis is likely scum, but I'm like 70% on him being scum so not that strong. Vivax is an ok lynch then. I'll consolidate. Great, I was about to call you a very beautiful and special flower for trying to make a no lynch happen. =p Also never said you were bad (yet). And yes I have a bit of a problem reading you this game. TBH tempted to put you back at lemon-tree. | ||
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On January 23 2016 07:03 GlowingBear wrote: Is this true? Can someone confirm if this is true? On January 23 2016 01:49 disformation wrote: 1. Keirathi - house 2. Superbia - CPR doc 3. ObiWanShinobi - Nigella 4. Rels - Captain Malcolm 5. Palmar - arrow 6. geript - link 7. Breshke - holmes 8. Koshi - Werner von braun 9. Cephiro - dreamflower 10. kitaman27 - Dr. Sy N. Tist 11. Vivax - dimensional lemming 12. Tictock - Mysterious challenger (???) 13. disformation - Watson 14. Fecalfeast - Moriarty 15. Damdred - doc 16. AlotSomuch - kitaman27 17. VayneAuthority - hero 18. The Shining - TTV 19. Onegu - ??? 20. Sicklucker - Mysterious challenger (Cyrus) 21. Copcake - Mysterious challenger (???) 22. GlowingBear - Mysterious challenger (???) According to that list that would mean Onegu unless TT is lying about being MC. Unless one of those guys in front of sicklucker is lying and that are a ton of ppl. | ||
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On January 23 2016 07:13 Koshi wrote: The people under sicklucker don't count because he tried to pick the role. correct. But the question is still if we want to believe Vivax dimensional lemming claim. Which is a pretty good fake claim to buy one day. Also if we switch now and Vivax IS artorias we have enabled his ability. | ||
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On January 23 2016 07:15 Koshi wrote: Holy shit. buy 1 day. So sick. Great play. And his filter is 100% town and the guy we don't know about it Onegu. Better than nothing. :p Still don't see how his filter is 100% town. Sure that you didn't add an extra 0? Like 10% sounds more about right to me. | ||
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On January 23 2016 07:31 Keirathi wrote: Oh wait, I suck at timestamps. (I actually didn't realize you could see exact timestamps). The post he claimed lemmin in was 9:11am CST. The 6th vote from Rels was 9:41am CST. Was checking this as well. On January 23 2016 00:11 Vivax wrote: weekend starts now for me so ill do stuff when i get home. I picked dimensional lemming, means we can have 2 lunches tomorrow. On January 23 2016 00:41 Rels wrote: ##Vote Vivax He claimed 30mins before getting the 6th vote. | ||
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On January 23 2016 07:51 Damdred wrote: I don't have much of an opinion honestly but what is the case on vivax? On January 23 2016 01:59 disformation wrote: Vivax recap 1. Gets angry when town starts to organize flowers and stuff. 2. "I don't care about this crap, let us RNG the lynch. I won't even put effort into this game." 3. Added some bold here. Really want to hear him explain this. 4. "Hi I am here, but I ain't gonna do flowers." Now he throws out a bunch of reads, but can't be flowered to explain like 2/3rds of them? And claims a like "give me 1 more day, plx" role? Think I am still pretty happy with where my vote is atm. | ||
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So shennanies can very well cause Vivax to use the Artorias power. | ||
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On January 23 2016 07:56 Koshi wrote: God damn. You people are full of yourselves. the flower is your problem? | ||
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On January 23 2016 00:11 Vivax wrote: weekend starts now for me so ill do stuff when i get home. I picked dimensional lemming, means we can have 2 lunches tomorrow. | ||
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On January 23 2016 08:33 Fecalfeast wrote: OH WAIT I DON'T KNOW IF I'M INSANE OR NOT DISFORM Will talk about that nightphase. | ||
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On January 23 2016 08:42 Fecalfeast wrote: I don't get it, why? Hmm... you are right. Doesn't actually matter here. You are mysterious. (which kinda sucks). | ||
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On January 23 2016 08:44 Fecalfeast wrote: oh so i'm a vt? Mysterious (your check will return a random mysterious challenger rolename that is in the game). Well you can help us in figuring out what TT, GB and copcake got... but yeah... kinda | ||
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Still not mad about that flip. 7 to go! | ||
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On January 23 2016 09:12 Rels wrote: Damdred where the fuck are you Don't tell me you only came for deadline to try to defend Vivax and now you're gone I want your input on TT On January 23 2016 09:12 Palmar wrote: also I want to point out how fucking right I was about vivax arguing with the organizational effort. Wasn't that the part of my case Damdred called NAI? | ||
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On January 23 2016 09:14 disformation wrote: Wasn't that the part of my case Damdred called NAI? On January 23 2016 07:57 Damdred wrote: One and two aren't alignment indicative Three is interesting and worth exploring but wouldn't be to strong to lynch someone on as it was quite a gap between the two incidents. Four isn't exactly alignment indicative of Vivax, in fact it might be indicative more of a town vivax than scum. Yes, it was. | ||
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On January 23 2016 09:27 Palmar wrote: Remember my wisdom about how mafia fight lynches? Another wisdom is that mafia tend to stay on wagons they're not pushing even if they're lone rangers on it. Were all these on the same wagon, or on some random shitty wagon? Onegu (2): GlowingBear (1): geript (1): sicklucker (1): GlowingBear More the random variety of wagon. | ||
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On January 23 2016 10:05 Fecalfeast wrote: anyone here play dwarf fortress? Have played a bit in the past, but I always end up flooding my fortress when attempting to get an underground well going. Can fully recommend watching. On January 23 2016 11:26 sicklucker wrote: Disinfo should probably be on my list but I have never tried to read his alignment and dont want to start now "I might want to consider shooting this guy, despite not even trying to figure out his alignment." Uh, okay? Thanks I guess? On January 24 2016 00:40 GlowingBear wrote: Which role is Koshi? Don't think someone answered yet: Koshi is Werner von Braun (you know the guy with the nukes). On January 24 2016 01:51 CopCake wrote: Palmar is awesome, his list of how to deal with Kita draw a huge smile on my face. Yeah, same reaction. Still not too convinced about the first point against Kita, but I'll have to review the other points against him and read kita's response again after that. Still having a hard time figuring out TT btw... | ||
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On January 24 2016 00:45 Palmar wrote: The case against Kitaman27 Remember Palmar from Outlaw mafia? Man that guy was a dick. He shot all the people who were right and argued his way out of a lynch with the rest. This game the guy who has the potential to do this is Kitaman. He's a very good player who would basically always be considered top tier if he played more. He is especially good at town. What all the angry people (rayn, koshi etc) who think town played terribly in Outlaw fail to realize, is that it's their own damn fault for not leaving a rock-solid conclusive case behind that I couldn't argue against. I'm not going to make their mistake, this case will be a comprehensive reasoning Kitaman27 is mafia. Part 1: Kita's original scumread on Vivax This is both the best part about the case, and also the most difficult one to understand. I'll try to use small words for the benefit of certain people. Vivax posted the post that immediately revealed him as mafia (well, not immediately, but it became clear he didn't follow up at all on it. This is the particular post: After this, Kita had a "discussion" with Vivax Vivax responded to this with: So this was the extent of their conversation and posts about each other until I joined the thread about 2 or 3 hours later. The important part is that Vivax wouldn't go on to post anything more for a long time. I basically saw Vivax's post and immediately called him out as mafia, then Kitaman decided to agree with me, without having shown no inclination towards calling Vivax mafia in the previous interaction. The point is that what was originally just a reason to put a pretty mild question on Vivax became a pretty strong scumread without Vivax doing anything in the meantime. And the first sentence in Kita's post is the important one. He CLAIMS that he had already picked out Vivax as mafia, so why didn't he do anything about it??? It's also important to notice that if you go to Kita's filter you can see that while he consistently called Vivax mafia he was never actively trying to lynch him. He wasn't yelling for the lynch in the same way I do. There is no way a town Kita cares so little about the lynch. Part 2: Kita's case on me I have already explained why having the checks is important and far better. Also I want everyone to understand that I put shady, experienced players on the check roles because I wanted to fucking deny them roles. I wanted them to just become MC at random. But more importantly, even if he doesn't agree with me, it doesn't make me mafia. Nothing he says in the first part of the case makes me mafia. Again a bunch of plan talk, none of which makes me mafia. So finally, here is the part that actually "makes me mafia". Notice how he wrote a massive case and nothing in it was actually about me being mafia. It was just a giant argument that his clearly shitty plan was somehow better than mine because it gave scummy people roles. My plan focused exactly on getting town as many blue roles as possible I just didn't want scum to get them too! There is literally no way kita believes that me being convinced that my plan is better like this somehow means I'm mafia. It's entirely possible he's bad and genuinely (irrelevant of his alignment) thinks that his plan is better, but there is no way he believes it makes me mafia. It was a giant ass fake case based on nothing. Literally flinging shit to see if it sticks. Also, just like the Vivax read, I don't feel like he made a strong push to actually lynch me. In fact I don't think Kita has passionately pushed anyone this game. It's just some shitty lists of 3-5 people thrown together as maybe mafia. Part 3: Various other things
Part 4: Suggestions on how to deal with Kita in the future if I'm dead
I hope you all enjoyed my case on Kitaman27. He is always mafia this game no matter what he says. If this game ends and he's still alive there will be killings. Good Luck! Well, not sure I like the introduction. Sounds a bit like a fear read... but then again: after remembering that kita was JudgeJudy I can agree that he is pretty damn good. xD Part 1 Hmm... still not sure about this one. Yes, the claim is a bit odd, but I don't think it is as scum indicating as you make it out to be. Looked through his filter with a strg+f on vivax and he was digging up stuff on Vivax like this post: On January 22 2016 06:01 kitaman27 wrote: Re-read through Vivax's pretty short filter again though I don't have much to add. So far it seems pretty similar to the afk scum vivax from TL Mafia LXXIII: The Nutcracker. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/499399-tl-mafia-lxxiii-the-nutcracker?user=Vivax I know I was pretty deadset on him being mafia in the recent resistance game until he suddenly turned on the activity so maybe he will show us something in the next 24 hours. If he continues to ignore the game, then I'd probably lynch him. Part 2 At the time I thought this is probably town on town having a different opinion about which plan is better, especially since kitaman's suggestions sounded reasonable to me. Reading his case on you again, it looks pretty bad. Part 3 Well, I don't know how invested a town!kitaman is, so not sure about most of these points. Can agree that his recent list had a lack of wow, impact or strong conclusions. Soo... overall these things start to add up. Like taken alone I don't think these points are like slamdunk scum, but considering that kitaman27 is apparently pretty damn good at this game, we probably won't get much slamdunk from him, should he indeed be scum. Looking at his answers now, but I think at least a scum lean is warranted and I will consider voting him tomorrow. (and/or use other measures you recommend in Part 4 ) | ||
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On January 24 2016 02:49 disformation wrote: + Show Spoiler + On January 24 2016 00:45 Palmar wrote: The case against Kitaman27 Remember Palmar from Outlaw mafia? Man that guy was a dick. He shot all the people who were right and argued his way out of a lynch with the rest. This game the guy who has the potential to do this is Kitaman. He's a very good player who would basically always be considered top tier if he played more. He is especially good at town. What all the angry people (rayn, koshi etc) who think town played terribly in Outlaw fail to realize, is that it's their own damn fault for not leaving a rock-solid conclusive case behind that I couldn't argue against. I'm not going to make their mistake, this case will be a comprehensive reasoning Kitaman27 is mafia. Part 1: Kita's original scumread on Vivax This is both the best part about the case, and also the most difficult one to understand. I'll try to use small words for the benefit of certain people. Vivax posted the post that immediately revealed him as mafia (well, not immediately, but it became clear he didn't follow up at all on it. This is the particular post: After this, Kita had a "discussion" with Vivax Vivax responded to this with: So this was the extent of their conversation and posts about each other until I joined the thread about 2 or 3 hours later. The important part is that Vivax wouldn't go on to post anything more for a long time. I basically saw Vivax's post and immediately called him out as mafia, then Kitaman decided to agree with me, without having shown no inclination towards calling Vivax mafia in the previous interaction. The point is that what was originally just a reason to put a pretty mild question on Vivax became a pretty strong scumread without Vivax doing anything in the meantime. And the first sentence in Kita's post is the important one. He CLAIMS that he had already picked out Vivax as mafia, so why didn't he do anything about it??? It's also important to notice that if you go to Kita's filter you can see that while he consistently called Vivax mafia he was never actively trying to lynch him. He wasn't yelling for the lynch in the same way I do. There is no way a town Kita cares so little about the lynch. Part 2: Kita's case on me I have already explained why having the checks is important and far better. Also I want everyone to understand that I put shady, experienced players on the check roles because I wanted to fucking deny them roles. I wanted them to just become MC at random. But more importantly, even if he doesn't agree with me, it doesn't make me mafia. Nothing he says in the first part of the case makes me mafia. Again a bunch of plan talk, none of which makes me mafia. So finally, here is the part that actually "makes me mafia". Notice how he wrote a massive case and nothing in it was actually about me being mafia. It was just a giant argument that his clearly shitty plan was somehow better than mine because it gave scummy people roles. My plan focused exactly on getting town as many blue roles as possible I just didn't want scum to get them too! There is literally no way kita believes that me being convinced that my plan is better like this somehow means I'm mafia. It's entirely possible he's bad and genuinely (irrelevant of his alignment) thinks that his plan is better, but there is no way he believes it makes me mafia. It was a giant ass fake case based on nothing. Literally flinging shit to see if it sticks. Also, just like the Vivax read, I don't feel like he made a strong push to actually lynch me. In fact I don't think Kita has passionately pushed anyone this game. It's just some shitty lists of 3-5 people thrown together as maybe mafia. Part 3: Various other things
Part 4: Suggestions on how to deal with Kita in the future if I'm dead
I hope you all enjoyed my case on Kitaman27. He is always mafia this game no matter what he says. If this game ends and he's still alive there will be killings. Good Luck! Well, not sure I like the introduction. Sounds a bit like a fear read... but then again: after remembering that kita was JudgeJudy I can agree that he is pretty damn good. xD Part 1 Hmm... still not sure about this one. Yes, the claim is a bit odd, but I don't think it is as scum indicating as you make it out to be. Looked through his filter with a strg+f on vivax and he was digging up stuff on Vivax like this post: Part 2 At the time I thought this is probably town on town having a different opinion about which plan is better, especially since kitaman's suggestions sounded reasonable to me. Reading his case on you again, it looks pretty bad. Part 3 Well, I don't know how invested a town!kitaman is, so not sure about most of these points. Can agree that his recent list had a lack of wow, impact or strong conclusions. Soo... overall these things start to add up. Like taken alone I don't think these points are like slamdunk scum, but considering that kitaman27 is apparently pretty damn good at this game, we probably won't get much slamdunk from him, should he indeed be scum. Looking at his answers now, but I think at least a scum lean is warranted and I will consider voting him tomorrow. (and/or use other measures you recommend in Part 4 ) Small updates after reading kitaman's response here: + Show Spoiler + On January 24 2016 01:45 kitaman27 wrote: Posting that I agreed with you was me doing something about it. I had the two post exchange with him in the thread and my very next post in the thread was calling him mafia. It's not like I was jumping on the bandwagon right before the deadline, this was a few hours into the game.
But yeah, you know. I didn't care It was completely irrelevant whose plan was better (even though mine was). The fact that you exaggerated your read on me saying that I was "undermining" your plan and making your plan "useless" was the thing that made me come to the mafia conclusion. Enforced by the fact that ever time I tried to respond to you, you just called me dumb. I didn't think you were a good day one lynch. I said that. I'll probably filter dive you later tonight to evaluate whether I still think you're mafia or if I just let you get under my skin during the planning phase. Well we've had almost identical reads most of the game, so pick one or the other. Well considering I average around 3-4 pages a cycle most games, it must mean I'm doubly invested! Phew. Personally I prefer a funny gif or pop culture reference. Something like this would do. Anyways, I'm just going to keep on trucking. One down, seven to go. I like his response to Part 1 and agree that filter length is not a really good metric to scum hunt. Rest looks kinda meh to me. So overall I think I am settling for a scum lean on kitaman27 for now and am looking forward to see what he will bring to the table later. | ||
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On January 24 2016 02:56 kitaman27 wrote: lol Part 1: "Not sure about that" Part 2: "Thought it was town initially, but now randomly isn't" Part 3: "Don't know if that applies" Conclusion: Yep probably scum Right on man. You sure you have read what I wrote? Part 1: Yeah, having a bit of a hard time with that one, despite Palmar using small words. Also your defense of this part is quite good. Part 2: It is called re-evaluation. You know, sometimes you go back to stuff and see it in a different light, or notice that you haven't paid that much attention to it when it first happened. Part 3: There are parts that don't apply and parts that apply. Your filter length is not very AI for me. Your recent list being pretty meh is. And yeah the conclusion is influenced by the fact that I am pretty suspicious of you now and I have problems justifying a TR on you because of that. But as I said it is not a slamdunk scum read like vivax was. | ||
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On January 24 2016 04:49 Koshi wrote: We can speak during resolution right? Hm. I was assuming no, but the OP doesn't really clarify. | ||
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On January 24 2016 05:45 sicklucker wrote: If you read my post my list it was not even people I scum read. just players that can probably hide there roles and be the bus driver... Oh, that actually makes sense. You should have said so in the first place. All I see is a list of ppl you were considering to shoot and I am not in the business of reading other peoples minds. | ||
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On January 24 2016 09:06 Fecalfeast wrote: Oh sorry I had customers/rust issues to deal with I got a check of "Blazinghand" when I checked OWS and sherlock holmes got "Town-aligned" Confirming both results. On January 24 2016 09:10 Fecalfeast wrote: wait assuming disform isn't lying about sanities, breshke had a red check (Insane gives the opposite check, right?) Any way to see who he checked, did he breadcrumb it? Well... Remember: On January 24 2016 07:58 kitaman27 wrote: [...] I USED MY DT CHECK LAST NIGHT SO THE FRAME IS IN EFFECT. THIS APPLIES TO ALIGNMENT CHECKS ONLY Did anyone track Holmes? | ||
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On January 24 2016 09:57 Tictock wrote: Actually I'm pretty sure dreamflowers shot doesn't go through if the target was town. So either Ceph targeted someone else or mafia put their own KP on Bre. Also called all 4 of those players town, so good on me with reads thus far. Also apparently someone was a dumbass and wasted RB on me. Hope if was mafia thinkign I am mafia, that would be grand. HOW DOES HE KNOW HE WAS ROLEBLOCKED?! Remember his role? On January 23 2016 10:01 Tictock wrote: Your faith in me is not rewarded. I baned you kus you were gone all phase, came back saying you had no opinions but then spent all your time and energy defending Vivax but had almost no explanation for why GB was a better lynch. He is blazinghand. Look at that role. On January 13 2016 05:45 GreYMisT wrote: Blazinghand (New - TL Mafia Ban List) You are Blazinghand, The Chosen, Wielder of the Sacred List, and He Who Guides The Newbie. Twice per game during the day phase (ability activates after the end of day), you may recommend that a player be banned. Unfortunately, you took over the banlist in the shadow of the Great GMarshal, He Who Sees All Things And Wields The Mighty Hammer, and your power is not absolute. The player you targeted may choose to either take a 'warning' (and be roleblocked for the following night phase and the following day phase) or 'sitout a game' (that player's vote during the following day phase is not counted). If the player chooses neither (either out of choice or because they are roleblocked) they will be BANNED. A banned player will have their vote stolen and added to your voting power for the following day. ”I, for one, support our new Blazing overlord.” - IGrok NO NIGHT ACTIONS! So again, why does he know he was roleblocked? + Show Spoiler + HE WAS DELIEVERING KP! BAM! Six to go! | ||
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On January 24 2016 10:44 Onegu wrote: Someone tracked Koshi to him... Koshi had a RB... Look at those two posts again: On January 24 2016 09:57 Tictock wrote: Actually I'm pretty sure dreamflowers shot doesn't go through if the target was town. So either Ceph targeted someone else or mafia put their own KP on Bre. Also called all 4 of those players town, so good on me with reads thus far. Also apparently someone was a dumbass and wasted RB on me. Hope if was mafia thinkign I am mafia, that would be grand. First he is like: "yo who the flower RBed me?!" He noticed the track like 4mins later. And both happened before Koshi admitted to this 14mins later. | ||
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On January 24 2016 10:57 Keirathi wrote: Typically, either all roleblocks are notified regardless of if an action was used or not, or no roleblocks are notified. The OP doesn't specify, though. Would be a good idea to clarify. Hm... Fair enough. Sent GM and HtS a PM about this. | ||
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On January 24 2016 11:20 Tictock wrote: @ Dis I know kus I got a PM from HtS. GM confirmed that all roleblocks are notified... flowers, really thought I had something here. =/ unvoting. got a bit of stuff to do, will catch up soon. | ||
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On January 25 2016 01:39 Koshi wrote: Oh 1 more thing. If town wants to actually hit mafia lynch fefe. If kita is town: we can trust his redcheck (I don't know if this is true but w.e) if kita is mafia: we can trust he actually tried to find other mafia and is telling the truth if kita is a flower: he framed a townie but I don't understand why unless mafia really just wants to kill all townies and go for a co-op victory. So lynch fefe = thx. Okay. Should have finally time now. I was looking into the roles, but there are no other frame abilities in the game, right? Also don't think kita is a flower. So voting FF sounds like a good plan. Though I am not sure if I like Onegu sitting on that confusing busdriver role. | ||
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On January 24 2016 15:27 sicklucker wrote: how long till it goes boom? End of day I think. On January 24 2016 19:46 sicklucker wrote: Once per game, when you have a half majority of the players voting for you (rounded up) OR you are the final mafia of your team remaining, You may PM the host to unleash the Wrath of the Abyss. If you manage to survive the day, You will gain the ability to immediately leap and kill a player who was voting you when you used Wrath of the Abyss. After using this power, You will return as mafia to all checks, no matter what. oh you dont get to use your abilty if you die great. Guys its important we dont give onegu half the votes unless we decide to kill him so no shennanies on this one.. Didn't you pay attention D1? This was one of the reasons to lynch Vivax, since some of us (me included) didn't believe his lemmings claim and thought he had a fair chance to be artorias. On January 24 2016 20:09 sicklucker wrote: But did someone confirm your role yet by receiving the ban notification? because that would be good to know That stuff is like 1/3 of damdy's filter... | ||
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On January 25 2016 04:45 Rels wrote: Or don't explain if you want, since you are 100% scum judging by your filter. Only useless stuff, nothing to help solve the game. A thousand questions that could be easily answered, which is making this quote super funny: I think you're lying about your role too, since you claimed to try taking Moriarty and FF (Moriarty) is 99% scum. Agreed GB's filter is a steaming pile of flowers. Not sure I agree on your Damdred TR. Like 70% of his reads are from Day 0. Yeah, he gets some cred for being okay with the Doc, but as you said his other activity doesn't look very town to me. | ||
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On January 25 2016 06:07 Rels wrote: Flower you're right. It's possible she did just that, especially being one of the last pick. It doesn't prove anything. On January 25 2016 06:14 CopCake wrote: Wtf is this flower? Dude Kitaman can be flowering mafia outing mafia -________- Fixed. You are welcome sweethearts. | ||
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On January 25 2016 23:21 Koshi wrote: Because mafia Kita told us to kill other team mafia FF. We as town do everything our mafia overlords tell us. I think you missed the point of Rels post here. :p | ||
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On January 25 2016 22:56 Rels wrote: GB is so townie it fucking hurts. Why are we lynching FF BTW ? Nah, pretty sure I got the point. | ||
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On January 26 2016 01:07 Koshi wrote: That doesn't make him town dude. That makes him not on a team with fefe. The case from Palmar (which I didn't read) makes him mafia. It's easy. Him interrogating fefe = Not mafia with fefe + Him being scumread by palmar and keir + his terrible omgus on palmar + he said I was mafia because I defended Vivax but I am not mafia if Onegu flips mafia (doesn't make sense with 2 teams, he simple slipped because he knows I am at least not in 1 team) = he is not town, and not mafia with fefe Hmmm... TBH not 100% happy with Onegu sitting on that role (partly because that busdriving thing just gives me headaches trying to figure it out), but I can agree with Koshi here. Good chance of getting two scummers today. Bringing it down to 9-5 would be really great. | ||
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On January 26 2016 04:28 Fecalfeast wrote: Lol kita claims a red check on the only towny he can't shoot without rbing then fucks off. It really is a good call and makes me think his scumteam lacks an rb Isn't the only RB in the game Koshi? WAIT THAT WOULD MEAN KOSHI AND KITA CAN NEVER BE ON THE SAME SCUM TEAM. | ||
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You are both scum trying to get the other modkilled for quoting a host PM | ||
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On January 24 2016 23:03 kitaman27 wrote: Haha Koshi, it's completely obvious that I have a red check based on my posts and then you nuke me before I reveal it? lolol don't you guys dare let him get away with this. Anyways, FecalFeast is Mafia Moriarty I breadcrumbed my check in the night post. Lets see if I can solve the rest of the game in the hours that I have left. I'll be mostly watching the football games today, but I'll definitely do some filter diving tonight. + Show Spoiler + Kita 2 Palmar 1 Yep, still waiting for the bold part to happen... Bit more than 2 hours left. | ||
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On January 26 2016 09:10 Palmar wrote: not going to watch that. :p | ||
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On January 26 2016 09:18 Koshi wrote: THIS. Only smart thing you ever said on this site. No disrespect. I flower you too sweetheart. <3 | ||
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On January 26 2016 09:21 Superbia wrote: Yo mafia is: 3 v 2 3, if you wipe out the 2 you never have to be afraid of night kp hitting you. 2, you're way behind the 3. Better make things equal or even better, get ahead. Just remember, I'm hitting a mafia. It could be one from your team. Do you want to fall behind the other mafia team? How do you know it is 2v3? Oo | ||
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I am so amazing I astound myself. =D | ||
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On January 26 2016 12:17 Keirathi wrote: 3 Mafia are dead, so it's either 4/1 or 3/2 just because math. The only way it could be 4/1 is if Kita and Ff were on a team together. So, yea it's 3/2 now. This. Since a few lists where requested: I merged stuff into one amazingly handy list. You are welcome. 1. Keirathi - house 2. Superbia - CPR doc 4. Rels - Captain Malcolm 5. Palmar - arrow 8. Koshi - Werner von braun 12. Tictock - Mysterious challenger (BH) 13. disformation - Watson 15. Damdred - doc 16. AlotSomuch - kitaman27 18. The Shining - TTV 19. Onegu - Artorias 20. Sicklucker - Mysterious challenger (Cyrus) 21. Copcake - Mysterious challenger (Shovel knight) 22. GlowingBear - Mysterious challenger (???) On January 26 2016 19:59 Palmar wrote: so the remaining mafia is something like GB, Onegu, Alot, Damdred, disfo, ticktock, keirathi if my d1 was ok? Disagreeing with one of your reads here, but I think the rest looks good. On January 26 2016 20:12 Koshi wrote: If you read disfo filter you can put him in a team easily. But dnu if he is mafia. Really dislike the fact town isn't even allowed to know from what mafia faction we kill. imo that is bad done in this set-up. Mafia teams should always be named. Yeah, of course I am on a scum team with Superbia, Palmar and you. Like did you even read the QT? On January 26 2016 21:50 Palmar wrote: Can someone compile a list of filter lengths? 1. disformation - 10 3. Rels - 18 4. Onegu - 8 5. Keirathi - 7 6. GlowingBear - 5 7. Damdred - 5 8. Tictock - 6 11. AlotSomuch - 3 12. Superbia - 16 13. Koshi - 18 15. The Shining - 6 17. sicklucker - 15 21. CopCake - 6 22. Palmar - 17 | ||
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The activity rating doesn't seem to come from looking at the Posts, words, words-per-post of one person. So he is probably comparing these things to the average mean or median of these things. Kinda surprised that eh activity rating is very close together for all the players. | ||
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On January 27 2016 01:22 sicklucker wrote: im sure its just filter length - quoted posts when all is said and done lol possible. but look at those shiny numbers! | ||
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On January 27 2016 02:44 Onegu wrote: Alright I am here, need to figure out what I am going to do. vroom vroom? | ||
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On January 27 2016 04:33 sicklucker wrote: nothing more then the Why am i mafia now comments after being the least active player in the game Well copecake has a higher activity rating than GB, Damdred and Alot according to Palmar's science. + Show Spoiler + On January 26 2016 23:40 Palmar wrote: Data: format: ID, Name, Posts, words, words-per-post, activity rating sorted by activity rating. 6|Palmar|333|10653|31.990990990991|12.5911240510595 3|Rels|348|10409|29.9109195402299|12.5851017652871 4|Koshi|346|8130|23.4971098265896|12.3143024627779 19|sicklucker|304|8405|27.6480263157895|12.2942178780475 13|kitaman27|158|9178|58.0886075949367|12.105527220351 26|Superbia|316|4994|15.8037974683544|11.7458084276567 18|disformation|158|6246|39.5316455696203|11.6876620366899 24|Keirathi|130|5961|45.8538461538462|11.5522411568805 11|The Shining|113|4964|43.929203539823|11.2926578755501 16|Tictock|113|4789|42.3805309734513|11.2536905360899 17|Fecalfeast|160|2671|16.69375|10.7708047027094 23|Onegu|143|2445|17.0979020979021|10.6260331961142 1|CopCake|102|2576|25.2549019607843|10.5359648184814 9|Cephiro|53|3341|63.0377358490566|10.5339670586961 21|ObiWanShinobi|127|1940|15.2755905511811|10.3233080457815 20|Damdred|86|1935|22.5|10.1512008746309 14|GlowingBear|87|1876|21.5632183908046|10.1226013377262 25|AlotSomuch|53|1686|31.811320754717|9.7914197953226 15|Breshke|67|1366|20.3880597014925|9.66470155106461 10|Vivax|43|1271|29.5581395348837|9.39383233196461 2|geript|41|1108|27.0243902439024|9.22413325770076 5|VayneAuthority|47|991|21.0851063829787|9.1622819941489 Still on the list of PPL I want to look into more tomorrow. | ||
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On January 27 2016 04:44 Koshi wrote: What is this? What is the point of writing that down dis? Really? Give me your complete or Copcake please. Use a lot of words. Say please. | ||
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Nvm you actually did. xD Give me a second. | ||
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At first I didn't like her because she seemed uncooperative (e.g. for not telling us her numbers) and was barely doing stuff. When she ended up not even picking a role and came into the thread with a very fearless and "I don't give a flower" attitude, which I read as town, I backed off a bit. Put her into lemon-tree land for most of the time so far. Read that as: no clue, figure out later. Since a bunch of time has passed and she still hasn't done much (would need to read filter to say more), I think she could very well be one of the remaining scummers, which is why I put her on the list of ppl I want to look at again tomorrow. Still think there is at least one person way more scummy and I hope that person gets visited by nice ppl tonight. Also didn't pay too much attention to a few ppl yet since I was very sure on Vivax D1 and we had a red check on FF D2. Lynching one scummer at a time. | ||
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On January 27 2016 08:34 disformation wrote: voting GB give me a moment to cobble together a case actually wait. Let us find out who blocked superbia. Only ones with block are GB and Koshi, right? | ||
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On January 27 2016 08:42 sicklucker wrote: Well theres 2 kp missing. Maybe koshi had a successful offensive role block? Did he have one left? Thats the most likely explination Uh... unless I read that role wrong Koshi can RB every night. | ||
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On January 27 2016 08:42 Superbia wrote: Glowingbear did you roleblock me? Koshi did you roleblock me? Yeah, these are pretty important. | ||
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On January 27 2016 08:45 Keirathi wrote: So, what we can deduce is that one of Damdred/disfo saved a NK, and one of GB/Koshi roleblocked Superbia? Most likely, anyways. Rels is also a doc, could have saved someone, too. | ||
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On January 27 2016 08:58 Superbia wrote: Look at ticktock's read progression on disformation btw. It's pretty funny. My progression on him is also super wonky, cause I can't read him for flowers this game. Going to write up my case on GlowingBear, the lynch should be one of those two. | ||
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Case on GlowingBear This was a bit harder to write than I expected. First up: very low activity. Five pages of filter. But low activity does not necessarily mean scum. So let us look at his content. Page 1 of his filter consists about him nearly forgetting the game, asking several easy to answer questions about the mechanics of the game and insisting that him not picking a number makes him town. Also saying that inactivity is pretty NAI for him. Page 2 starts with him realizing that he had some very inactive scum games. Next up is him not cooperating with town. Later on he says he picked Moriarty to check on FF. Until Page 3 he hasn't posted any read beside an indirect scum read on SL by asking ppl why they townread SL. Page 3 Asks ppl about sicklucker again. He tells shining that him asking all these questions on Page 1 in the thread instead a possible scum QT is AI. First reads: On January 24 2016 13:35 GlowingBear wrote: Keirathi I thought was scum before for some reason but his reaction to Palmar's badmouthing felt genuinely town so slight town read. FF I have no idea, but probably town because why would a Mafia moriarty kill Holmes when he can use him? TT I haven't read a single post from him, so I have no idea That FF read is quite strange, especially given that there are two scum teams... Page 4 puts out these reads: On January 25 2016 09:41 GlowingBear wrote: Rels is Mafia Palmar is Mafia Koshi is Mafia Damdred is Mafia You heard it first here. Despite arguing with and about some of those ppl he never actually pushes them. Oh also remember his vote from Day 1? + Show Spoiler + sicklucker (1): GlowingBear I remember someone posting something about outlier votes being more scum indicative... TLDR: + Show Spoiler + Look at his filter. The end. Not many reads at all. Argues with ppl he scum reads, never pushes them. General low activity and doesn't seem interested in solving this game. | ||
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On January 27 2016 09:37 sicklucker wrote: yep but step #1 is vote copcake fair enough. done. | ||
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On January 27 2016 09:43 Palmar wrote: disformation is 100% mafia. This case on GB is bullshit, no townie would ever go through the toruble ofwriting that His filter is flowers. What more should I have to say? Do you see a single post with the desire to solve the game in that filter? His read on FF is even more of a flower. I am like 100% sure that dude is scum. | ||
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I can't believe that dude can be anything else than scum. At least I am trying to do something here. TBH I was really surprised when Superbia said he would shoot TT over GB. Cause I don't think you can get more scummy than that. | ||
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On January 27 2016 09:48 Palmar wrote: no. and this post is the case a townie would write. Oh boy you will misslynch me so often... | ||
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unvoting CC. On January 28 2016 00:28 Palmar wrote: No disfo disformation is 110% mafia I am more sure on him than anyone else in the game. That is why the lynch is now between Onegu and SL? Kay. | ||
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On January 28 2016 00:32 Koshi wrote: I think disfo is mafia because he is constantly serious but each time somebody calls him mafia he starts trying to be popular and calls them flower. Flower. | ||
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140%. Currently rereading and looking at the situation. Onegu: - sitting on a role that can flower town over (hard) - no scum hunting - basically only talks about his role and ppls reaction to that SL at least has put in a ton of work/posts into this and I am currently getting a strong town vibe from his posts. In favour of the Onegu lynch here. | ||
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On January 28 2016 00:48 Palmar wrote: thanks for updating stupid post count for me. You are welcome flower. 150%. | ||
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On January 28 2016 02:48 Koshi wrote: those 4 and himself = last 5 mafia makes sense to me. Didn't you listen to palmar? I am like 1850% scum. (total post count including this one x10) | ||
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On January 28 2016 02:57 Palmar wrote: if you're not you deserve to die anyway for calling my scumread on kita a fear read. Palmar does not afraid of anything. Yeah, no wonder keir was super demotivated to post more. Feeling the same way now. Stepping away from this. Hope I can muster the motivation to contribute some more, but I feel anything I will do from here on will be commented with a nice "you are scum". 1860% | ||
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On January 29 2016 00:53 Koshi wrote: All other roles are more useful. Think about it. Do we have protection? And I am not counting cpr. Rels and me are prots. Feel free to tell me who to protect next night. Will try to look at some filters and be more useful after dinner. What are we at? 1870%? | ||
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Like Koshi would need to randomize his mad hatter thing, too. Assuming two teams cause currently 4-5 mafia alive (I think it is 4 but we cant be 100% sure yet) and we don't know what onegu will flip. So if Koshi doesn't randomize his mad hatter thing and gets no protection one of the two teams, one just shoots Koshi to get a 2 for 1, since the person koshi targets can't be on both scum teams. Doubly so should he target town. | ||
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On January 29 2016 04:04 Keirathi wrote: I'm running a 102 degree fever and feel like someone dropped me off of a 10 story building. I still think onegu and SL are both kinda town, maybe even slightly less on SL because of his complete lack of opinion towards Kita, but I dont have it in me to fight for it so I'm just going to sheep. Get well soon. On January 29 2016 06:23 Onegu wrote: It wasnt as serious as first thought. Thanks for the well wishes! <3 Glad to hear that! Okay ppls, I am around and Imma go look at some filters. If you have questions or want me to look into certain ppl first, feel free to ask. | ||
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you're 100% annoying. | ||
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also 0% fun to play with. | ||
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If your plan is to bait me into getting myself modkilled you are getting pretty close. | ||
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On January 24 2016 09:30 Keirathi wrote: Fuck off Palmar. You don't get to act like you're God and then when you're wrong blame it on everyone else. That's bullshit. Nothing is ever your fault. You're just being an asshole for no reason. Never going to vote Keir. | ||
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Cause of that post by him I quoted. duh. | ||
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It doesn't. It just shows that we was quicker to realize some things that are going on this game. | ||
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On January 29 2016 07:49 sicklucker wrote: disinfo we already know your mafia , you may as well just pull a gb | ||
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On January 29 2016 08:00 Superbia wrote: Since disfo would have no reason to actually save me if he's flipping mafia from my shot. Better than protecting facepalmar. On January 29 2016 08:04 Superbia wrote: So if Koshi does his RNG thing, the plan is good? Don't ask me, I don't think my opinion is valued any longer in this environment. Ask Palmar, he will probably yell at ppl if he doesn't like the plan. | ||
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On January 29 2016 08:12 Superbia wrote: Palmar is not the only person in this game. I want to know your opinion on the plan if Koshi RNGs. *sigh* Well. As I said before: If Koshi's target is known, koshi is not protected and there are still two scum teams around one of the two scum teams just shoots koshi for the free 2 for 1 kill. Unless Koshi is scum (which I very very highly doubt) this is either a 1-1 trade or two dead towners, depending on who he hatters. Depends a bit on the Onegu flip, but I don't think this is a very good outcome for town. So by rnging his bomb it would be very risky for scum to shoot him, even if there are still two teams alive. Plus leaves prot open for ppl like you and facepalmar. | ||
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Palmar is annoying the living hell out of me, but I still think Onegu who only was talking about his role all game is still the correct lynch. Or do you want to do deal with him during the nightphase for the reset of the game? | ||
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On January 29 2016 08:19 Superbia wrote: Okay. Granted we do that. How's the plan then? Hmmm... looks solid for me. | ||
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I at least had a pretty solid case (summary) on Vivax. | ||
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On January 29 2016 08:31 Superbia wrote: Pewpew. You don't say "I don't like this plan" as town when the only problem you have is a minor detail easily fixed. Not correct town mindset. Not sure why you would call scum basically controlling 3 of 4 KP a minor detail, but sure if you say so. | ||
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On January 29 2016 08:41 disformation wrote: Where did I say that you are scum? Oo If there are still two scum teams next night: 2 KP. If one of them shoots koshi to set off the bomb: 3 KP. | ||
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On January 29 2016 08:42 Superbia wrote: I'm assuming the one extra kp you're talking about is mine? And the 4th being koshi's RNG? Ah. I was trying to say: If scum knows who the bomb is on they get this as "free" KP. | ||
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On January 29 2016 08:44 Onegu wrote: How would scum know??? Plz let me shoot this guy Caus Superbia's plan said where Koshi should put the bomb. Which I didn't like for obvious reasons. | ||
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Voting scum 3 days in a row. Still everyone thinks I am scum cause there are tow teams. FML: | ||
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On January 29 2016 09:02 Palmar wrote: Everyone thinks you're scum because I told them you're scum. I don't think you're scum because of your voting record, I don't really give a shit about your voting record. I think you're scum because your posts don't sound like anything a real boy, let alone a townie, would ever write. Not a real boy? That means I am pinocchio. | ||
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Guess who is back. You are correct, your favourite poster all game every game and I will make you suffer in agony as you have to read yet another bunch of my posts. Have a headache going on so my posts will be even more awesome! yay. Thanks palmar for finally trying to explain why I am scum. Still don't 100% get it, but at this point I am probably better off asking post game and/or the fine folks in the Obs QT I will probably manage to meet in a few hours. At least I learned to never put the words fear and palmar together this way, cause that apparently will get me killed regardless of alignment. Sry, for being a little bitch the last few days, but I was super stressed out cause RL stuff and your super uncooperative attitude towards me pissed me off. Still wub you facepalmar even though you were a bit of a flower this time. <3 Time for some random reads. yay. TLDR versions. maybe will try to whip out some explanations, b4 I get shot in the face. NOT THE KNEE! NOT THE ARM! SHOOT ME IN THE FACE! IN THE FACE! + Show Spoiler + THANK YOU! Never ever scum, or if one of them is, please nominate for an award after the game: koshi, palmar totally forgot that he is in this game: the shining scummers be here: CC, TT, keir bit waffly about TT and as mentioned earlier I don't want you guys to kill keir. So if you could let win keir the game, that would be great. probably not scum. but not 100% sure: Superbia, Rels, SL One of them kinda has to be scum though, cuz I'm town. | ||
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On January 29 2016 10:02 Tictock wrote: You really think anyone deserves credit for lynching a Redcheck? And if anyone gets credit for Onegu lynch it's SL and Me. I voted Onegu before SL forced the 1v1. But what if I'm just mafia from the other team? So stuff your cred where the sun don't shine. Dude, when did you become so angry and unfriendly? I don't recall you being angry and unfriendly in the games we were town together? On January 30 2016 04:18 Koshi wrote: TT is mafia or can die. I have had enough with the tinfoil. At some point it has to be something else. He wastes way too many posts on tinfoil bullshit and way too little on actual scumhunting. TT, I am not kidding here, get gut, or get out. If you are town. Stop the bullshit tinfoil because I will fucking kill you. All your following posts I want to read how YOU plan on solving the game. Like. The very next steps. Why are you so angry over some flowery tinfoils? At least shows that TT is imaginative. Lots of angry this game. | ||
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you = superbia Sick game though! | ||
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On February 04 2016 09:10 Vivax wrote: My reads weren't actually bad this game ^^ (on the other scum team). Don't mind me just pretending someone will pat me on the back for them Yeah. I was like "dont even care about his alignment, just get those reads out of the game". On February 04 2016 09:10 Damdred wrote: I cost town the game sorta? Stupid me saving cpr medic Meh. Stuff happens and during N2 I would have never ever guessed for Superbia to be scum. Was super sure he was town tbh. | ||
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On February 04 2016 09:17 Koshi wrote: Goddamn. Onegu actually saved me from the other mafia team. And the other team kp'ed me twice. fuckers. N1 we wanted to shoot geript so he could not use his RB N2. So when Onegu posted his bus, Rels was able to switch our kp target last second and we shot you so geript would die. I think we double stacked on geript because of that. | ||
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On February 04 2016 09:20 Superbia wrote: Well hosted GM/HtS! Thanks for answering all my questions and processing the KPs. :D Yeah thanks a lot! Team Cobra asked tons of questions both via PM and via the QT, must have been fairly annoying. xD | ||
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On February 04 2016 09:29 Superbia wrote: Disformation, I play: - BUG eldrazi control deck with Tasigur as the commander. - BG sacrifice/recursion deck with Meren as the commander (this one is actually really disgusting). - mono-B all-stars with Erebos as the commander (first deck). Nearly missed that. Pretty nice choices. I play EDH, well tbh MTG, super casually. But I have a Gisa and a Jarad deck. Yes, I like sacrificing things. xD Planning on throwing together a Karlov deck for a change of pace. On February 04 2016 10:30 Superbia wrote: I've heard of the 1st and the 3rd before. Will be interesting to dive in. :D Wow. Haven't heard of most of those. Am GMing Pathfinder from time to time and play in a Group of the same system. Got the new edition shadowrun core book, but never managed to play that. Will maybe look up stuff on all the stuff I don't know tomorrow. | ||
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