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kitaman27
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On January 22 2016 05:58 sicklucker wrote: Anyone making a list of claimed roles? dont you fuckers make me do it
Maybe I missed a few, but I believe this is where we are at.
1. Keirathi - House 2. Superbia - CPR 3. ObiWanShinobi 4. Rels - Captain Reynolds 5. Palmar - Arrow 6. geript - Link 7. Breshke - Holmes 8. Koshi - German dude 9. Cephiro - Dreamflower 10. kitaman27 - Sy N Tist 11. Vivax - ??? 12. Tictock - ??? 13. disformation - Watson 14. Fecalfeast - Moriarty 15. Damdred - Doctor 16. AlotSomuch - kitaman27 17. VayneAuthority - Hero 18. The Shining - TT Vig 19. Onegu - ??? 20. Sicklucker - ??? 21. Copcake - ??? 22. GlowingBear - Mysterious challenger
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kitaman27
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With there being 8 mafia, AlotSomuch probably has to be one of them.
On January 20 2016 09:40 AlotSomuch wrote: I don't really mind being assigned a role. Apparently Vayne thought I was scummy and knocked me down from number 11 to 16...so...well done Vayne?
I mentioned it earlier, but this really has to be one of the scummiest posts in the game. Scum are always ultra aware of who suspects them and he brings it up as a....compliment? Like what is the point about even mentioning Vayne here? On top of that he is being really complacent during the first 48 hours, essentially asking to be assigned a role while providing no input himself.
The case Rels posted earlier pretty much reflects what I've been saying/thinking here.
He mentions that we shouldn't lynch him because he has an investigative role? lol everyone has some type of role. Saying that he is going to wait until after n1 until the player list is smaller seems like he isn't interested in putting in the effort to figure things out. The mafia to town ratio is really high, so it shouldn't be impossible to find one or two, especially with the 96 hour day one.
I'd say lynch between him and Vivax....whichever contributes less over the next day or so.
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kitaman27
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On January 22 2016 06:32 sicklucker wrote: Ok someone needs to be tracking ticktock tonight
The unclaimed players, the hero, and the doctor all make good track targets.
The reason I say this is that the unclaimed players currently have no pressure on town to control their actions so they can do whatever they choose and fake claim if they need to, which allows us to verify their claim with a track. The hero should never be leaving his house, so if VA does then we know he is mafia. The doctor has a 33% chance of being weak. That means that if Damdred is mafia, he will almost certain be protecting a mafia player since he would die if he is protecting town. It also forces Damdred to protect a strong town role if he is aware that we're going to know where he is acting.
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kitaman27
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Also, if either of the mysterious challengers ended up with Kenpachi or Blazinghand, they should claim now. Otherwise they should be policy lynched if they are ever role cop'd with those two since they are so pro-mafia.
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kitaman27
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On January 20 2016 11:46 Tictock wrote: some posts suggesting that he's looking at the game from a mafia win perspective (I'm not sure how to say it better, just like looking at mechanics from a mafia pov).
What were you referring to here TT that bothered you?
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kitaman27
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On January 22 2016 06:49 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2016 06:47 sicklucker wrote: Actually I was thinking of making some plays with my claim by claiming tommy the fireman or something(my original choice) but If i die or something we would lose this valuable information so ill just hard claim my role now.
Im a mysterious challenged (acualy a nice role I was not lying about that)
I checked Knight Artorias, the Abysswalker he is in play mafia has him Fucking fuck. We cannot kill Alot then. Alot checks Artorias and we protect him. kita checks Alot to see if he's really kitaman.
It's extremely likely that either Vivax or TT has the busdriver based on the role claim list. I'd say probably Vivix.
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kitaman27
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On January 21 2016 19:46 Vivax wrote: Koshi is there anyone in this game you really want dead. Possibly breadcrumbed the kp here?
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kitaman27
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Once per game, when you have a half majority of the players voting for you (rounded up) OR you are the final mafia of your team remaining, You may PM the host to unleash the Wrath of the Abyss. If you manage to survive the day, You will gain the ability to immediately leap and kill a player who was voting you when you used Wrath of the Abyss. After using this power, You will return as mafia to all checks, no matter what.
Unvoting Vivax unless we are sure he is mafia and getting lynched. Don't want to active his day vig with the half majority condition.
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kitaman27
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On January 22 2016 06:54 Rels wrote: OK. Alot claimed to have kita. We let him use it, if he lies about it we kill him. Simple. We need to track roleblockers to be sure they're not blocking him if we're doing that, so he cannot lie about that.
Well I mean mafia has a busdriver so I'm not sure how reliable night checks are going to be when we publicly claim a plan like that.
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kitaman27
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On January 22 2016 06:56 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2016 06:49 Rels wrote:On January 22 2016 06:47 sicklucker wrote: Actually I was thinking of making some plays with my claim by claiming tommy the fireman or something(my original choice) but If i die or something we would lose this valuable information so ill just hard claim my role now.
Im a mysterious challenged (acualy a nice role I was not lying about that)
I checked Knight Artorias, the Abysswalker he is in play mafia has him Fucking fuck. We cannot kill Alot then. Alot checks Artorias and we protect him. kita checks Alot to see if he's really kitaman. no we dont. IM TELLING YOU HE IS IN THE GAME we already know art is in the game. why would we waste kitas role on that? We need him to check someone less trustworthy to see who picked off the plan because that person has artorias. Im obviously not going to fake this rofl
The kita role tells us WHO has art
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kitaman27
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On January 22 2016 06:58 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2016 06:56 kitaman27 wrote:On January 22 2016 06:54 Rels wrote: OK. Alot claimed to have kita. We let him use it, if he lies about it we kill him. Simple. We need to track roleblockers to be sure they're not blocking him if we're doing that, so he cannot lie about that. Well I mean mafia has a busdriver so I'm not sure how reliable night checks are going to be when we publicly claim a plan like that. I don't think kitaman's power is affected by busdrivers.
Seems you're right. Also a mafia busdriver can't bus their scumbuddies so we have that going for us too.
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kitaman27
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On January 22 2016 06:18 Keirathi wrote: Kita: What do you think about geript?
He is in the lower half of my trust list at the moment so I could definitely see him flipping mafia, though outside my top 5 scum reads.
I think his take on Rels wasn't very good because he is one of the few people that seems to be actually doing something.
On January 21 2016 16:56 geript wrote: And I think I might be wrong about Breshke. In looking at my notes and reviewing his filter, he's not really hitting the marks I thought he was.
lol another guy "looking at his notes". I'd be interested to see what he actually had in his notes on Breshke because this post seems pretty random/made up.
On January 21 2016 04:23 geript wrote: He's focusing on this plan (which is NAI) but he's not really doing anything effective with it. Like Superbia's kinda run off with that. It's just more an exercise to get people avoiding having to talk about reads. Especially when the core of the pick plan really is to also discuss who we don't trust and why.
I actually have a problem with the way that geript chose to go after Palmar. I think Palmar is mafia because of the way he completely overreacted to my additions to the plan and his decision to paint me as mafia based on that post. geript's line of reasoning here seems to be that he says Palmar was avoiding making reads with the plan, but if you looked closely, Palmar's role assignments were all based on his level of trust of players that he had mentioned earlier. It seems like geript isn't really reading things in detail.
I think Link is a really good town role though so I wouldn't consider doing anything with him until at least day three. If he shows up with excuses about how he wasn't able to pull off the n1 watch or n2 double scum kp block, then I'd go after him. Even if he does do the n2 block, that part doesn't make him automatically town.
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kitaman27
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On January 22 2016 07:18 AlotSomuch wrote: I didn't say I shouldn't be lynched.
Err....?
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kitaman27
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If someone ended up with Pick their Power Picker from Mysterious Challenger, they should totally grab the gambler by the way.
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kitaman27
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On January 22 2016 22:30 Palmar wrote: Also to everyone who thought kita's additions to my plan were not smart.
THIS IS WHY WE HAVE CHECK PLAYERS
Well the busdriver is almost certainly behind koshi and myself anyways, maybe damdred could have gotten really lucky and found it but do you know what's more accurate than a "honesty check" that a player chose his role? The alignment checks that I chose instead
So rather than calling me bad 4-5 more times, what do you think about my post and keir's post on geript? Do you still think keir is mafia?
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kitaman27
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On January 20 2016 09:13 sicklucker wrote: now help me fill this shit in and see who lied so we can shoot them
On January 20 2016 09:16 sicklucker wrote: what a waste of fucking time
On January 20 2016 09:32 sicklucker wrote: I thought about it. The only way so few single combinations could get through is if mafai to some degree intentionaly tried to stop certain people for whatever reason. It makes sense they wanna stay at the bottom under the radar.
On January 21 2016 02:11 sicklucker wrote: kp roles are already weak for mafia since there is 3 factions. When a mafia takes a kp it honestly is net neutral because there killing the other mafia the same amount of the time as town by percentages of importance of each player.
So honestly just let mafia have all the kp roles if we dont want them their gonna hit mafia as well
On January 21 2016 02:14 sicklucker wrote: But im just an idiot I dont make my living off math or anything. Kp roles will only be good for mafia late game. but mafia will probably just fire it all off instantly and hit the other mafia team.
On January 21 2016 05:21 sicklucker wrote: Like if theres alot of doctors/veterans in play. this will force mafia to not kill the obvious towns and instead kill questionable people so mafia on mafia violence
On January 21 2016 05:23 sicklucker wrote: which is why im mostly prioritizing trackers/inv type stuff. but if towns have doctors mafia will get paranoid and go off the board
On January 22 2016 06:32 sicklucker wrote: Ok someone needs to be tracking ticktock tonight
On January 22 2016 06:56 sicklucker wrote: no we dont. IM TELLING YOU HE IS IN THE GAME
we already know art is in the game. why would we waste kitas role on that? We need him to check someone less trustworthy to see who picked off the plan because that person has artorias. Im obviously not going to fake this rofl
@GB I'm town reading him for posts like these. There is a lot of setup talk, which could go either way, but the difference I think is that it seems like he actually believes what he is saying and gets frustrated at points, which is tough for mafia to fake on certain topics that probably don't matter much to them.
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kitaman27
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On January 22 2016 23:50 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2016 23:33 kitaman27 wrote:On January 22 2016 22:30 Palmar wrote: Also to everyone who thought kita's additions to my plan were not smart.
THIS IS WHY WE HAVE CHECK PLAYERS Well the busdriver is almost certainly behind koshi and myself anyways, maybe damdred could have gotten really lucky and found it but do you know what's more accurate than a "honesty check" that a player chose his role? The alignment checks that I chose instead So rather than calling me bad 4-5 more times, what do you think about my post and keir's post on geript? Do you still think keir is mafia? I still think you're mafia
You play a pretty close Ace, but I feel like you're missing something. The swagger or something...
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kitaman27
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I looked a bit closer on TicTock and I'm less certain about him being mafia now. He seems to be putting some effort in while he is not under the threat of a lynch, which always earns townie points in my books. He had already settled on Vivax so he could have coasted for the rest of the day, but then goes on to say stuff about a couple other people and pick out a few posts like the alotsomuch and disfo responses.
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kitaman27
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Breshke is another person that I'd change from my initial rankings. The first 48 hours I felt he was decently townie, but his activity has really dropped off lately. Essentially just a couple posts to defend me and then asking who to lynch.
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kitaman27
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Dimensional Lemming "You may not knowingly cause there to be a majority of mafia players in either the main game thread or the new game thread."
I wonder if we can use this as like a pseudo dt check if we include Vivax and two of the scummiest players.
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