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On April 08 2018 14:41 GlowingBear wrote: Mr. Calix and Mr. Rayn I particularly disliked this exchange: + Show Spoiler + On April 08 2018 04:29 Vivax wrote: Make it more challenging and flip a coin at least? On April 08 2018 04:39 Calix wrote: Why make it more challenging? I for one need to figure out how to play again. I am pretty rusty Vivax joke was really obvious, I don't like this question "Why make it more challenging?" like he is pursuing more information - but he really isn't. Feels forced. Now this: + Show Spoiler + When he posted this I already voted him. He didn't react to it, he didn't try to understand what was happening. He ignored it and decided to ask Eversince that question. Again, why asking that and completely ignoring my vote? Ignoring it sounds like he froze and decided to go against anything else. what are you even talking about. Calix makes a joke in his first post lol. Making a read on that is forced. Theres nothing for him to say to you regarding your vote considering you dont explain for half a million years anyway. | ||
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On April 08 2018 14:46 Tubesock wrote: Gb makes me smile. Towny points. Why? | ||
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On April 08 2018 10:21 Damdred wrote: Yeah but why is it defensive if he is busy irl, thats kinda a meh read from you vivax. But really I feel like his thing hes doing with the thing he noticed about calix and dragging ever and rayn into it just seems town to me. Town for GB he generally cant fake enthusiasm like that as scum by my recollevtion. by enthusiasm you mean making a terrible read? | ||
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On April 08 2018 10:43 currentlyhomeless wrote: anyone around at this hour to talk? I am in Asia so I wonder if I will have no buddies Someone tell me the run down of who’s good and who’s not in this game. If it seems legit maybe I’ll actually consider you town who cares dude, i mean you arent even real yourself | ||
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On April 08 2018 18:53 Calix wrote: If you don't think there's such a thing as too scummy to be scum then yeah, I'd like to know why you think Vivax's dumb post is "town dumb" then. A questionable progression isn't a reason to suspect someone is mafia? Yes, I said that it 'might' make him mafia as I would like an explanation from him first but there's still plenty of content to comment from. And if you thought it didn't say anything then again, why WOULDN'T you respond to it saying that at the time? Here's what you're claiming. Your mafia read a makes long accusatory post "which doesn't say anything" on someone you town-lean and you're claiming you just ignored it until I prodded you for a response? Yeah, I don't believe you. ##vote raynpelikoneet where did this come from?!? | ||
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On April 08 2018 20:35 currentlyhomeless wrote: To use your own quote, there isn’t much point in me “doing” anything (whatever that means, posting stupid one liners?) especially this early. With that said, ##vote Holyflare WHAT WAS THE POINT OF THIS | ||
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On April 08 2018 21:52 Skynx wrote: Wassup guys? I caught two scum.
rayn is already under fire and has much to answer to so I'll vote GB. actually terrible | ||
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On April 08 2018 22:56 Calix wrote: Skynx can go into the townpile. Seems inquisitive and observant, shows a willingness to change his opinions based on new evidence, and doesn't seem to have any preconceived conclusions with his posts. Would not lynch today. HE POSTED LIKE 3 POSTS??!? | ||
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On April 09 2018 02:09 Calix wrote: Fair play. I can admit that my accusation post was a bit OTT. I was just like "WOO FOUND MAFIA" and wasn't thinking Anyway, the tl;dr of what I was going to say about your wall-post is that I wasn't meaning to 'accuse' GB when I asked him that question. It was just something I found, thought "hey this might be interesting" and posted it because why not, it's the early game. It's not that deep, basically. Vivax was more of an accusation post but not 100% because I wanted clarification first. Dunno, I think the problem here is that you misread my intentions as being more...aggressive? than I intended them to be. And then you think I am scummy because I don't go about doing...whatever it is you think I should be doing. Hard to explain. This doesn't really touch on a lot of what you wrote since, as said, I haven't properly read your post and absorbed it, but you can ask me questions to clarify things I haven't talked about in the meantime. You seem to have more free time now. Also me being a raging hypocrite isn't AI. this is where the backpedal starts | ||
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On April 09 2018 02:26 Calix wrote: I'm aware you have used the 'no right answers' read in the past but that wasn't my intent. All I can really say there. My argument for you being mafia was that you kept calling me things that made me mafia but hadn't really 'committed' yourself to that read which I thought was suspicious. Since a vote would have shown some commitment to the read, I talked about that as an example of 'not showing commitment'. Since you have now cased me, this argument is no longer applicable. I did notice HF not voting for you after calling you "mafia rayn". I just don't have a strong opinion on it other than "that's weird, I'll make a note of that for later" because he hasn't done anything else whereas you had the multiple posts calling me mafia. mm backpedal going strong | ||
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On April 09 2018 04:29 Calix wrote: I hate to break the news to you, but I'm not you. Therefore saying that I'm scummy for reading people for different reasons to you is an invalid argument. I am happy with my town-read on Skynx. Deal with it. Yes, I haven't unvoted and have no plans to. Because unvoting without having someone else to vote for is dumb. But right now, I'm not going to push for a lynch on someone that I am less sure of. So because I didn't respond to a generic question in the way you would, I'm scummy? Again, I'm not you, and accusing me on the basis that I didn't say "Vivax/ rayn" for "best lynches" is pedantic. And non-committal? I've taken more stances than most of the game has. I'm not going to feign confidence in my scum-reads if I am not actually as confident as I used to be. backpedal successful and complete | ||
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On April 09 2018 05:19 GlowingBear wrote: 3. Oatsmaster 6. Eversince 7. currentlyhomeless 12. Vivax Good question. Other than Skynx and even you, I'd lynch Oats, Vivax, Eversince, currentlyhomeless. Oats because OMGUS Vivax because if I remember correctly, Vivax is a intense poster as town, and a lacking one as scum. Eversince because well, I just remember talking to her and nothing else. currentlyhomeless because my god just play the game instead of shitting on everything people post. That's it for now. i feel maligned that im on top of this list even though this list is actually terrible | ||
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On April 09 2018 11:06 GlowingBear wrote: Ok you voted Calix. Care to explain? You said my reasoning was terrible the first time you came in thread. And what do you think of Vivax? mm i disllike backtracking without actually saying that you are wrong. Also she doesnt unvote rayn because she doesnt have anyone else to vote but doesnt think hes scum anymore is questionable | ||
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On April 09 2018 11:58 kushm4sta wrote: Why not oats.. why not then.. Looks like scum to me. LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL | ||
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On April 09 2018 12:27 GlowingBear wrote: To be fair, I think he may be a good lynch. I have no reason to actually townread him and Calix at least is active. Answer me this, please: isn't it possible that Calix, as town, is simply reevaluating her read on rayn ? not townread =/= scum. that reevaluation was drawn way out, i could see it coming from a mile away which means it was constructed and fake. | ||
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because i can never read vivax properly day 1. | ||
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On April 09 2018 12:39 GlowingBear wrote: So, if Calix flips red, does that mean Rayn is also mafia? No | ||
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On April 09 2018 12:40 GlowingBear wrote: Ok, ok Oats Can you make a list of your reads atm? No | ||
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On April 09 2018 14:15 Eversince wrote: I don't see Calix as mafia. Skynx's post on GB/Rayn got no traction at all. I'll assume with 13 players there is at least 3 mafia. For it to gain no traction when most active are skeptical of Rayn just seems wrong to me. Er what? Do you think there's anything particularly wrong with the case itself? | ||
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On April 09 2018 14:29 Eversince wrote: Oat's doesn't even have a case on Calix I believe? bad backpedal | ||
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On April 09 2018 14:40 Eversince wrote: Yes, I read. I think she is genuine. People make mistakes. I like her post. She has been one of the most vocal players here. She made a read, changed it, said so, and moved on. Props girl. she took like 3 damn posts to do that which i called out from the very first one. | ||
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On April 09 2018 14:50 Eversince wrote: Yes, it was. The prior was for Rayn/Calix. That was like 2-3 pages worth of back and forth not 2-3 post. I thought they were fine. Skynx getting no support makes me think he's not mafia because Rayn under fire and pressure by half the damn thread makes no sense for the mafia to be l'oh, well wtf ever, we dun mind afk'. That's just stupid. what do you even mean?? who is "he's" | ||
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On April 09 2018 14:57 Eversince wrote: 1). Skynx makes terrible case. 2) I decide it's terrible case. 3) I point out why it's ok from a town point of view even though it's a terrible case. 4) I repeat myself 65536 times that I Don't Think Skynx Is Scum. Pick out why you think it makes him one or it I'm going to put all of my attention there. that has nothing to do with his case getting no support | ||
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On April 09 2018 14:57 Tubesock wrote: Ever means that despite half the thread giving Rayne heat not a single one was mafia therefore all who did were town. That if mafia tries to lynch someone halfway through the day they will surely succeed and would only do it in one coordinated effort. It was like halfway during the first 24 hours, obviously wasnt gonna be the push that was gonna be lynched. Rayn has never been lynched day 1. | ||
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On April 09 2018 14:59 Eversince wrote: No I meant if it was a mafia driven lynch they would of just beat around the bush for 24 hrs then fucked off. They would of setup a diversion, and a backup, and pushed off onto one of those after Rayn failed. This whole concept is why Skynx isn't scum. Stop voting for him darnit. you give way too much credit for scum teamplay. | ||
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On April 09 2018 13:50 Eversince wrote: But he did nothing with it? If it came from mafia Skynx I assume his team would be behind him? It was just a wall post that everyone seems to dismiss. You see what I'm saying? On April 09 2018 14:15 Eversince wrote: I don't see Calix as mafia. Skynx's post on GB/Rayn got no traction at all. I'll assume with 13 players there is at least 3 mafia. For it to gain no traction when most active are skeptical of Rayn just seems wrong to me. Explain why the hell skynx' case getting traction or not shows his alignment without talking about the quality of his case. | ||
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On April 09 2018 15:04 Tubesock wrote: Right. I don’t see how this has anything to do with what I’ve said though. Is this a point for Skynx being town? its tubesock being wrong | ||
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On April 09 2018 15:09 currentlyhomeless wrote: Yep, I’m the greatest! It would be great if you sheeped me and voted HF, cause HF is flipping scum. you probably shouldnt lie about why you are voting HF | ||
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Ever means that despite half the thread giving Rayne heat not a single one was mafia therefore all who did were town wrong | ||
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On April 09 2018 15:19 Eversince wrote: Yes, and that's fine TS. I mention that before. I think you're wrong but at least you reason out your thoughts. I hope you are around long enough I can talk to you tonight. hey wheres my reply | ||
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On April 09 2018 15:49 GlowingBear wrote: I should re-read Calix but cba =/ just vote him, ez | ||
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On April 09 2018 19:10 n00bKing wrote: Based on Eversince's super-low post count, I would assume the vast majority of her Mafia experience comes from elsewhere. And I think a lot of what she's said would make sense for non-TL games, where you DO see a lot more coordination, strategy, and a well-defined "scum agenda" than what is often seen in the games here, where you sometimes wouldn't be able to tell if all the scum players were actually even reading the scum QT during Day Phases, and most members of the team are just doing whatever comes into their heads, without any planning, or forethought, or understanding of how it will impact their teammates. But anyway, even if Scum were to set up "a diversion" and "a backup" that doesn't mean that a scum Skynx's teammates would have to help him out with a push against a town rayn, before gauging the TOWN'S interest in pursuing the lynch. So even once I decide that her premise is logical for non-TL games, I still don't think her premise actually supports her conclusion. Skynx could easily be Town, but this is not good reasoning for deciding that he's Town. What's the point of this post? | ||
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On April 09 2018 21:04 Eversince wrote: Look at his filter. All of it is 'This is wrong' Ignores caring about. Doesn't push. Doesn't fish around (Like right now! I am here but nothing?) Giving yourself as an example of town behavior isn't a good idea | ||
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On April 09 2018 22:00 Vivax wrote: Cool so you are not interested into my alignment at all or explaining where I should be with my reads so I can dunk all of your expectations. Sorry, but I am willing and ready to go into detail about anything you want, but you refuse. I am still fully expecting you to do this: HF "Vivax should be reading this guy and this guy and this guy as this cause..." so I can do this: Vivax: "No but I actually read them as this cause l..." That's not how this works | ||
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On April 10 2018 00:39 Vivax wrote: Honestly he just behaves like an asshole towards me from the start cause I ask him to explicate what the fuck it means that I don't have the read that he expects me to, he refuses and no one accepts to try and talk on my terms or point out that the argumentation from HF is fucking unfair. It's a fucking assholeish environment and doesn't make me want to play. Would also lynch Calix at this point without caring for her alignment. One guy pointing out your play makes an assholeish environment? | ||
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On April 10 2018 00:46 Vivax wrote: Yes it is, cause that's how HF said it works so if you don't agree with it you don't agree with HF. Anyway I think it's pretty clear now what HF is talking about | ||
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On April 10 2018 00:49 n00bKing wrote: It explains to you that I think you should have been attacking her eventual conclusion (about the townread on Skynx, and how she reached it), and not her initial premise (about how a team of Mafia would or should operate). Im not attacking anything in that post. Anyway ever claimed absolutely terribly but he's not mafia | ||
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Seems like typical inconsistent town vivax | ||
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On April 09 2018 22:17 Calix wrote: I'm not feeling anything in particular. I think people misread the language I use as being 'angry' when it's just how I talk. If I was actually angry then it would be obvious. I agree with his Vivax posts. However I don't really trust him. He accused rayn after I did. Now he accuses Vivax alongside me. Looks like a pattern. Nothing substantial to back it up, just wary. I would probably not want to lynch him today though. Vivax looks well bad even without HF's points. How does vivax look bad if you assume HF never posted about him? | ||
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On April 10 2018 00:53 n00bKing wrote: Well hi there. Ummm...bump? Roles are split by alignment based on their name. Role duplication not possible | ||
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Because you think that ever since is town but also think that skynx' scum partner is the leading wagon which also happens to be ever. | ||
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On April 10 2018 00:59 n00bKing wrote: I wasn't talking about walls of text at all. I had been talking about early posts, before the walls came. What will make his filter useless to town players later in the game is that you can't tell what he's responding to, who he's talking about, or in some cases, who he's even talking TO. Why would he do this as scum and not as town? | ||
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Dup roles are too good. Why does this even matter anyway?!? | ||
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On April 10 2018 01:03 Vivax wrote: Hey mate the moment I wrote that ES ninjad my post with her claim so I wasn't able to rule her out and Calix was the next leading wagon with two votes so both qualified for me as possible HF teammates. Either that or Skynx and N00b could have been the ones I just wrote about that rustled HFs jimmies. Either way the post was centric about what could have been the reason for mafia HF to go all out, not who the leading wagon was. Mmmm anyway i think you are town so eh. Wanna lynch calix? | ||
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On April 10 2018 01:04 n00bKing wrote: ...the same reason anyone else would do it as scum but not as town. To make their filter useless to town players later in the game. It doesn't take 2 seconds to find the scum motivation for his behavior. Can you find evidence that scum players did this before or he did this before as scum or he doesn't do this as town? Saying it doesn't make it true | ||
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On April 10 2018 01:06 Vivax wrote: Wait a moment now that I'm not busy defending myself against BS I can start dishing out. FIrst of all let me point out the following: This is the very first question that came to n00bkings mind and neither is it answered nor is he trying to get it answered when it's obvious he's in the thread with HF so it's safe to assume the two don't even read each others posts and now you go and tell me how unlikely it is that they are both mafia. Noobking is weird, I'm still making up my mind about him. GB why not calix? | ||
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On April 10 2018 01:09 Calix wrote: Why are you still mafia-reading me exactly? Most of your recent posts have been devoid of anything relating to a "read" aside from some weird mixture of talking about Vivax while not wanting to lynch him three hours before EOD. And it's weird because it shows a lack of priorities. Backpedaling terrible | ||
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On April 10 2018 01:09 Calix wrote: Why are you still mafia-reading me exactly? Most of your recent posts have been devoid of anything relating to a "read" aside from some weird mixture of talking about Vivax while not wanting to lynch him three hours before EOD. And it's weird because it shows a lack of priorities. Lack of priorities because no one else is gonna vote for vivax now and instead is gonna lynch you? Yessss | ||
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On April 10 2018 01:14 GlowingBear wrote: Like, come on oats, that backpedalling is bad but it could be town. I have plenty of other suspicions, but Skynx just sounds like the best lynch. You know it. How can it be town when I can read through the thread and immediately identify when it's happening?!? | ||
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On April 10 2018 01:14 GlowingBear wrote: Like, come on oats, that backpedalling is bad but it could be town. I have plenty of other suspicions, but Skynx just sounds like the best lynch. You know it. Skynx is on the same level as the other afk people imo | ||
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On April 10 2018 01:16 GlowingBear wrote: Vivax, I'm reading your posts and I don't like them, especially when you come in the thread and OMGUS Holyflare. I don't think Holyflare is a strong townread, but at least he is not particularly scummy, and you know that I'm the first person to go against someone like Holyflare. How is he omgusing HF? | ||
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On April 10 2018 00:53 Oatsmaster wrote: How does vivax look bad if you assume HF never posted about him? | ||
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On April 10 2018 01:17 GlowingBear wrote: It's not. He drops two bad cases and decides to vote me instead of rayn because rayn had a lot to answer yet. What kind of thought process is that? You vote for the best lynch. Always. So like calix voting for someone she thought wasn't scum doesn't make her mafia then? | ||
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On April 10 2018 01:18 GlowingBear wrote: He just came back to the thread saying that if people can't consider Holyflare as mafia he won't play again in these forums. Just because Holyflare started a wagon on him. Quote it. I'm pretty sure he didn't say that. | ||
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On April 10 2018 00:12 GlowingBear wrote: I must say our votecount looks terrible. Here is a list of people that we should be lynching today: 1. Skynx 4. ExO_ 6. Eversince 7. currentlyhomeless 8. Calix 12. Vivax 13.Damdred In order of my preference: Skynx is the best option. He came to the thread, made a very bad case and instead of choosing his most scumread, he voted me because "rayn had a lot of questions to answer". This is not a townie thought process. A town lynches the scummiest and votes the scummiest. Also, he just peaced out of the game. Vivax doesn't sound like Vivax. Not contributive. Not chasing information in thread. Exo sounds so emotionally dettached from the game. Also calling me out without further pursuing me was weird. He isn't really commenting on the hot topics of the thread, but mostly following his own agenda. Calix, I don't know. I can see her changing her POV on rayn and me. But it feels so weird. Especially when rayn attacks her agreeing with me she looked scummy, then she also scumreads him, and then they both drop their scumreads in a flinch. Currentlyhomeless, currentlyuseless. Damdred, he is simply not playing the game and I hate it. Mmm yes glowing bear, I see a lot of rayn is mafia in this most recent reads post. | ||
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On April 10 2018 01:22 Fecalfeast wrote: Role info in OP updated. Duplicate roles are possible Lies | ||
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Normals never have dupe roles. | ||
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On April 10 2018 01:25 GlowingBear wrote: I'm not sure on rayn and I don't think HF and rayn are day1 lynches, that's why they aren't in that list. Come on. You literally never mention rayn other then just now when I said that rayn had to be mafia for your post on skynx to make sense. | ||
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On April 10 2018 01:23 Calix wrote: Isn't this just asking why I think Vivax is mafia? My current opinion is that his posts are bland and uninteresting. He hasn't said anything engaging. He has an entire scum-team theory yet I do not give a damn about ANY of his scum-reads. Instead of pushing his reads, he takes on this defeatist attitude about convincing others to vote for his reads. He called me town despite saying I was pushing rayn for false reasons (which is not a town tell ever) and never explained that despite me asking him about 39580670 times. His reaction to being called out about the "HF pushing me because a mafia's on the line" quote looks like flailing scum to me. I also don't get why he's getting emotional. Which is not necessarily scummy by itself but it's not helping me think he's town. So posts have to be interesting to be town? Sure.... Also you don't care about his reads cause you think he's mafia, it's terrible bias | ||
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On April 10 2018 01:32 n00bKing wrote: I assume you've found your Day 1 lynch then: Fecalfeast. Alright, so duplicate roles are possible. If a Gunsmith happens along who hadn't seen Eversince's claim yet (lets say Damdred, for example) then there would be very minimal value in performing the counterclaim. On the upside, no such thing as a mafia Gunsmith. If Eversince is able to pass a gun to who we tell her to pass it to, she's verified Town. There also cannot be a mafia Jailer to stop her from passing a gun, so she'll only be stopped by a mafia roleblocker. I randomly feel like there's a decent chance of there being a mafia roleblocker in the game, so even if her claim is real instead of fake, I don't necessarily expect a gun to get passed on Night 1. But even though she's a better lynch now than before the claim, I'm inclined to at least give her the opportunity. There are still 2 votes on her, but unless someone disagrees with the above, I think those votes should move off, instead of being added to. So you went through all that to make a post on how she is probably town when literally everyone else has already determined that. Mafia | ||
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On April 10 2018 01:34 Calix wrote: Picking the most 'eccentric' read and acting like that negates all my other points is bad. Since you think he's town, feel free to try and change my mind. Why do you say I'm biased? Reads like you think I am town while you call me scum. The rest is meh, 'flailing scum is wrong", him calling you town is par for the course for vivax if it's true, emotional isn't even a point.. The bias is that you think he's mafia therefore his reads are terrible not his reads are terrible therefore he's mafia. | ||
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On April 10 2018 01:38 n00bKing wrote: By NO means did I say she is probably Town. In fact, I specifically said she's more likely to be Mafia now than before the roleclaim. But I think we should give her the opportunity to try and pass a gun anyway. HF is obviously not convinced that she is "probably town" either. And neither of us are in the two VOTES against her. Probably gunsmith == probably town. You said that she's more likely to be mafia but your tone suggests otherwise. | ||
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On April 10 2018 01:39 Damdred wrote: Ive had an emergency at work I'm finishing up I won't make deadline and have 10 minutes before I enter no cell phone zone again. Will look at the main wagons and vote but just from a glance I dont like the vivac lynch Mmm dammy town | ||
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On April 10 2018 01:40 Calix wrote: ExO_. I haven't filtered him since he's not up for lynch at all but he was making some weird, timid posts when I was with him in the thread. The one where he tells Vivax and I to call it off when Vivax and I were not even fighting was out of place. And he hadn't called me town before that post. Otherwise he has "safe" reads and "okay" posts. Fits the profile of mafia skirting by. Damdred possible third. Why damdred? | ||
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On April 10 2018 01:43 Damdred wrote: I voted calix for now, I am behind and will try to run to the bathroom near eod to check things. Emergency ends today at 5 so will be normal posting from then on. Dammy confirmed town | ||
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On April 10 2018 01:44 Calix wrote: Don't have anyone else I think is mafia at the moment. I don't think much of his actual posts. Why don't you go and look?!? | ||
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On April 10 2018 01:42 n00bKing wrote: Well I guess that explains why I said neither of those things, then. NVM ignore that, why does mafia claim gunsmith | ||
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On April 10 2018 01:47 Calix wrote: Because I want Vivax dead or spewing townie out the arse. EOD =/= time to do srs filter-diving to find mafia. It's like 2 more hours, stop being dramatic | ||
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On April 10 2018 01:47 Calix wrote: Why exactly do you think Damdred is super-town, Oats? Do share. He thinks you are mafia and vivax is town lol, it's super clear | ||
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On April 10 2018 01:47 n00bKing wrote: 1) Since this ruleset allows for duplicate roles, a counterclaim from a real Gunsmith will not be as damaging as it would be otherwise. Good reason to fake claim a power role instead of just trying to pass for Vanilla. 2) Since this particular ruleset doesn't keep the roleblocker from choosing the same target on successive nights, Mafia Eversince has a never-ending excuse for failing to pass the gun and verifying her roleclaim. 3) Since this particular ruleset doesn't give notifications to people when they are roleblocked, the mafia roleblocker can continue to roleblock town players while Mafia Eversince pretends to be roleblocked, and no Town players can say "but I was roleblocked too..." Not all rulesets will follow ANY of those three parameters, much less all three of them. But THIS game presents something of a perfect storm, for a fake Gunsmith claim. Why not claim something that can't be verified? Why even claim in that situation?!? It's so far from EoD. | ||
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On April 10 2018 01:51 Calix wrote: Have you seen the votes? lol. Best time to be a Drama Queen :D There's nobody here that hasn't decided if they are gonna vote vivax anyway. Why does vivax!mafia ignore your question earlier but answer it now and why does town!vivax answer your question earlier? | ||
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On April 10 2018 01:53 Vivax wrote: Voted Skynx. Still waiting on N00bking to post anything that looks like he's trying to solve the game. Cause talking about what could happen at night is something he can talk about at night and just looks like he's posting filler. Vote cliax what the heck | ||
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On April 10 2018 01:56 Calix wrote: Mafia!Vivax ignores it because he can't think of a legit explanation for it, duh. And he recently said he was 'too busy responding to other posts' to respond to mine so that would be the town!Vivax explanation. So since he answered it and gave that explanation he isn't scum anymore right? Since that was a significant part of your earlier reasons | ||
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On April 10 2018 02:00 n00bKing wrote: Claim something that can't be verified, and people might say "meh, that can't be verified" and then be more inclined to lynch through the claim. With THIS claim, they might reflexively think it CAN be verified, without realizing until later that it actually cannot. And claim so far from EoD if she legitimately wanted to leave the thread and go to bed. She told Vivax she would be around for another 45 minutes to an hour. An hour later she finds herself in the vote lead, at the time she's supposed to be leaving. So she makes the claim. As the excuse for the early claim, she says her "time is up." But she then spends the entire next HOUR defending herself, when she sees that people are NOT reacting positively to the claim. After that hour, she OFFICIALLY declares that she is now going to bed. (Like, for realsies, this time, peoples.) But then spends ANOTHER half hour defending herself from new posts instead. Spending 90 minutes defending herself, when the entire excuse behind the early claim was that she was "out of time" and had to leave. If she were actually Town, then this post: could very well have been the last thing she said, instead of us seeing all the things that followed it. But if she were scum and felt increased responsibility/obligation to her teammates (since there are fewer of them, if she's scum) then that might explain the 90 minutes she kept getting dragged into answering new posts. I also can't say I care for the fact that she freely discussed reads on everyone from Vivax to DAMDRED (who had been long-term AFK), but ONE topic she refused to discuss (even when asked directly) was WHY she put her VOTE where it is. That's really bad. But in the face of ALL that, I would give her the opportunity to try and pass the gun on Night 1. If she's Town, maybe we'll get lucky and the scum will not have a roleblocker to stop her with. So if she was the town gunsmith instead, how would she behave differently from what really happened? | ||
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On April 10 2018 02:03 n00bKing wrote: "duh" is an appropriate addition to the answers to WAY too many of oatsmaster's questions. Is that normal for him? Except thats not actually how the game works? | ||
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On April 10 2018 02:11 n00bKing wrote: If she were Town, it makes sense to me that she would have gone ahead and left the thread much nearer to the time she actually said she was going to. Instead of repeatedly saying things like "believe me or don't, I don't care" and "fucking lynch me then" but continuing to defend and defend and defend. If she were Town, she should have answered a simple and direct question about why her vote went where it went, instead of talking about everyone BUT her lynch target. These things were both already mentioned in the post you quoted when you asked. y u no read? Why would she not want to defend herself from being lynched as town when in actuality, anyone cares way more about being mislynched as a blue than lynched as scum | ||
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On April 10 2018 02:08 Calix wrote: No because I still don't think he's done anything that 'townie' and his posts are more "meh" which is why I am happy with my current vote. If you think I am wrong then point out where he's done something townie and ELI5. I could be tunneled with "Vivax is underperforming mafia", I will admit, but I don't see anything convincing for him being town. Furthermore, there is also a lot of resistance to his lynch and some pushes towards Skynx (who I think is town but we'll see how he responds to this EOD), n00b (I agree he hasn't posted many explicit reads but I am not convinced this is AI for him), myself (pretty terrible D1 lynch if I say so myself), etc. @n00bking, I do not know much about Oats' play so I couldn't tell you, lol. Literally the only resistance to his lynch is me what the heck. | ||
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On April 10 2018 02:22 Calix wrote: No, I said that Vivax already explained a scenario you posited in the thread, which would thus be the explanation for his actions were Vivax to flip town. Because that's what Vivax is claiming happened. I think this answer was exceedingly obvious, thus making your question terrible. Has this rather long discussion with moi furthered your read on me in any way? He said it before I said it though? And you said it after he said it | ||
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On April 10 2018 02:27 n00bKing wrote: LOL Do you have any evidence that people care more about being mislynched as a power role than they care about being lynched as scum? Because "saying it doesn't make it true." Every scum role is more important to its team than ANY power role is important to the town. What's not to get?! She parks her vote on me, 100% out of nowhere, and says it's the "best place" for it. And then proceeds to discuss anything and everything EXCEPT the player she voted against, and why that is the best place for that vote. Even when directly asked for her reasoning...silence. Yet although she can't be asked to explain her VOTE, or talk about why it's there, or really even make any further mention of the player it's on, she stayed that extra 90 minutes to talk about reads on OTHER players, including even Damdred, who had been a full-blown AFK for quite some time. You need to play more games then. Almost nobody gets lynched as uncced blue so it's actually insanely terrible for that to happen as town gets no mafia from it and loses a future confirmed town. Why would mafia eversince do that? | ||
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On April 10 2018 02:55 Calix wrote: I am pretty sure this is incorrect. However I do not care to check since I do not understand where you're going with this. Again, have any of your interactions with me changed your read at all? That's gonna be a no from me. | ||
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Hey HF how's it going, wanna calix | ||
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On April 10 2018 03:02 Calix wrote: You've interacted with me for like, two pages and you're no more or less convinced on what my alignment is despite me answering a shitload of your questions. Don't think I believe you. You said changed my read which is no. I'm convinced you are scum, I think that's pretty obvious | ||
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On April 10 2018 03:08 n00bKing wrote: *spit-take* "uncced" means zero in this game. Mafia has no fear of a counterclaim. And in games with role duplication, uncountered claims DO get lynched (and should). You either "need to play more games" using those rules, or maybe just need to play in stronger fields of players. Do what? The only games with dupe roles have been not normal and 2 gunsmiths is a terrible setup. Do the thing where she acts super suspicious about her vote on you | ||
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On April 10 2018 03:13 Calix wrote: I said 'changed at all', I think you'll find. I maintain nobody's read remains 100% static after prolonged interaction with them. But since you are apparently 'convinced' that the super-solvy townie with highest post count is mafia, I shall go back to fucking around in the thread. Er that's great then | ||
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On April 10 2018 03:18 n00bKing wrote: Can sure be convinced to lynch Oatsmaster. Choosing you as the best D1 lynch strikes me as pretty ridiculous. He's just as obtuse as Vivax, but it feels more sinister. Vivax is maybe more...directionless, than malicious. What do you think about damdred and skynx then? They also wanna lynch calix and they are objectively worse than me | ||
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On April 10 2018 03:24 Holyflare wrote: Damdred's reentry is absolutely awful and I hate that oats says he's town for it. Damdred appears to have read nothing, has excused himself from playing till past deadline (fair enough if he's busy) says he'll vote with the wagons and then hard deflects to pretty much the towniest person in the thread off the scummiest. He agrees with my reads = town? I mean there's nothing else to judge him on. | ||
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Sheep me = lynch caliz | ||
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On April 10 2018 03:35 raynpelikoneet wrote: I dont think vivax is mafia. Mafia vivax just rolls over and dies. Damdred can easily be mafia. Nono explain further what HF is saying, I like where he is going | ||
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That's just your opinion man | ||
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On April 10 2018 03:38 Skynx wrote: I would've voted by now in that case. Oats and ES are my only super-town reads but i don't think Calix/Vivax are mafia wagons. So where are you voting?!? | ||
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On April 10 2018 03:39 n00bKing wrote: I hate Oats for it more than I hate Damdred for it. Yeah, awful re-entry from Damdred, but it's another one of those instances that borders on "too awful." Like, where's his awareness, if he's scum? Oats townreading him for it bothers me more, especially when you add it to him making Calix his lynch target. Also, I think a red flip from Oats would yield more information about other players than a red flip from...possibly any other player in the game. Mm yes lynch for 'information', the best kind of lynch. | ||
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On April 10 2018 03:50 n00bKing wrote: Well there's some bad news then. 1) Vivax's filter isn't particularly short anymore either. 2) What you've posted might make a good argument for a No Lynch, but we can't do that in this ruleset. It appears we'd forfeit very little by lynching someone like currentlyhomeless, but I can't put his percentage of flipping red very far above the baseline (if any) Let's lynch you! | ||
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On April 10 2018 04:12 Calix wrote: I actually agree with you. It is why I am starting to think Vivax might be town despite what I think of his posting. Because there have been a lot of posts but the votes have been weirdly static. Mafia is either AFK or they do not give a damn. Since you could lynch almost anyone here if you wanted to, I think it's option #2. Why don't we consolidate on you? Thanks for your consideration | ||
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On April 10 2018 04:16 Skynx wrote: Currently I'm voting n00bking for 3 reasons 1) Sheep ES. 2) Him scumreading Oats. 3) All the talk about how claim doesn't make ES town and he can be lynched. Mafia making a blind claim when he was so far from danger is actually impossible. Off wagon why | ||
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On April 10 2018 04:20 n00bKing wrote: So, Skynx has a very simple path to self-preservation, which is just to vote against Vivax. He votes against me instead, which (regardless of Vivax's own alignment) just SCREAMS "I know someone has my back." Yeah nobody actually plays like that here | ||
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On April 10 2018 04:38 Holyflare wrote: Forgive me team damdred/oats for I have seen the mafia calix light. Actually wished I switched to CH but eh | ||
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On April 10 2018 04:51 Calix wrote: Nah. I think static votes is a bad sign. If mafia wanted to save Vivax then all they have to do is put some votes on Skynx, or me, or n00b (do you think there's any mafia on his train aside from Vivax btw?). And now that n00b's train DID take off, I'm going to look at that sometime this night. n00b's train happened in like five seconds. Not much time to really take it in. Static votes is a bad sign but without static votes we lynched town sooo?!? | ||
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You are saying shit that doesn't make sense to justify your waffling | ||
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On April 10 2018 05:02 Calix wrote: I don't see how saying "static votes are a sign that Vivax might be town" and n00bking being turbo-lynched are somehow mutually exclusive. That is actually what makes no sense. I don't even know why you're asking me things and expecting me to respond when you earlier said you were 'convinced' I am mafia despite talking with me a bunch. I don't understand. Because it's fun? | ||
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On April 10 2018 18:57 Eversince wrote: I guess it's to early for people to be playing but oh well. I'm going to summarize: "Reasons to not lynch ES" 1)Claimed. 2)Un CC 3)Contradiction amass all over the place under direct heat. vs my meta I have little time and everyone who has played with me knows it so why I am not just afk at this point? 4)Has openly lied (in the time frames) to try to divert lynches away from me. Why would mafia do ANY of this? "Reasons to lynch ES" 1) Tries to be too bad to be scum | ||
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On April 10 2018 19:51 currentlyhomeless wrote: if ever gave me the gun I’d turn around and shoot ever for being bad actually dying | ||
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On April 10 2018 20:05 ExO_ wrote: I think HF is town. His anger after the vote at Calix is something I don't think Mafia would be able to fake that well. I think eversince is telling the truth. A reading mistake like that is exactly the kind of thing that would happen to me. I think he should have to announce who he is passing the gun to in the thread, and have the player he passes it to confirm they receive it. In this case I think he should give it to HF, as I fully believe he's town. If HF doesn't get the gun, we lynch eversince. What are you even talking about. Who the heck doesnt read their role pm. Oh I know, someone who didnt get that role pm | ||
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On April 11 2018 01:27 Vivax wrote: His townreads are very few, his null reads don't interest him and he just keeps attacking obvious townies at every opening he finds. That's mafia HF, game. Who are the obvious townies he is attacking other than ever? | ||
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On April 11 2018 06:02 Vivax wrote: Great question considering the way he posted it he could do anything just like yesterday cause that ExO vote really sucked purely cause it was never going to happen the way he went about it. 180ing my read on rayn right now. I will pick up where GB stopped. But I think the team is somewhere along rayn/Calix/HF or rayn/HF/kush in light of recent events. Mostly cause it leads to the NK making sense. Calix stopped posting abruptly and should be the first lynch. Her or HF. Either way calix is being thrown under the bus heavily here and doesn't need to keep playing. I dont think HF is mafia, unless you are mafia and he engineered an insanely risky switch. If theres no gun i wanna lynch ever. If not then calix | ||
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also super salty that people arent happy with him at the EOD. Really weird post. | ||
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On April 11 2018 06:16 raynpelikoneet wrote: The point of the post is those are my scumreads you dumbass. Yeah i am salty. I am salty because i can't genuinely be around more than maybe 5 minutes / 2 hours and some fucking semi-lurkers have the nerve to tell me i am not doing shit when i am trying to read and post whenever i can at work. But i won't be doing it anymore, that's how salty i am. dealwithit. No it's not. For once try to not call anything you see in thread scummy. that's why i don't really care to interact with you, you are much funnier to play with when you are mafia because you're not a headless chicken. whats your opinion on ever? | ||
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because shes either confirmed town or mafia? | ||
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On April 11 2018 06:26 raynpelikoneet wrote: no shit sherlock, everyone is either confirmed town or mafia. ??????????????????? | ||
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On April 11 2018 06:30 Holyflare wrote: If she's the actual gunsmith she gets rbd, if she's mafia gunsmith she gets "rbd". Pointless shit. thats assuming mafia has a rb | ||
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On April 11 2018 08:31 currentlyhomeless wrote: this game is gonna be so hard cause hf is mafia fuck Is vivax mafia too? | ||
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On April 11 2018 09:13 currentlyhomeless wrote: also if you think hf is scum why you not voting him!!! I hope not but his lack of vote is making my toes prickle if he is scum with HF this game might be impossible Why would scum HF bother switching the vote to you when town!vivax dies without his intervention? | ||
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On April 11 2018 09:20 currentlyhomeless wrote: because HF knows he would look terrible if vivax flips town and then HF doesn’t die n1? he’s not a scrub like you he has a reputation to hold but he also looks terrible if you flip town and he doesnt die n1?!? | ||
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On April 11 2018 09:24 Tubesock wrote: Oats, your filter isn’t exactly a friendly place to find your reads. Are you still at mafia = Calix, CH*, You’re townreading HF, Damdred (annoyed), Vivax I can’t really tell what you think about rayn or Eversince or Skynx. yeah, ever is also mafia. | ||
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On April 11 2018 09:31 Eversince wrote: Ok, let me try to break this logic down for you then. I gave the gun to Rayn (town!Rayn) Shoots somebody. (mafia!Rayn) Shoots town. The fact there was no double kp and Rayn says he did not get the gun confirms Rayn town. If Rayn was mafia they could of doubled kp last night. If their is ever double kp from this point on it is either SK or Rayn is mafia. That is silly to risk in mafia!Rayn so Rayn is town. i guess reading is hard | ||
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On April 11 2018 10:09 Eversince wrote: Why the fuck would mafia play that carelessly? thats been used as an argument forever and its consistently not true | ||
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On April 11 2018 10:13 Vivax wrote: Call me stupid if I missed this but where? I checked again and the first thing she says post claim regarding this is the following: So show me how you didn't pull above statement out of your bum? later on she "realizes" she doesnt have a gun on the first night but has to make one. | ||
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On April 11 2018 10:13 Eversince wrote: Same responce to you Oats. The whole scenario that you guys are trying to push makes no sense, in any way, shape form, or fashion, for mafia to be doing. Yet somehow you believe it's happening. Also makes no sense in any way, shape form, or fashion, for town to be doing. | ||
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On April 11 2018 10:16 Eversince wrote: If I can't make mistakes, own up to them immediately, try my darned hardest to make them up and explain why I made them then that makes me think your scum I dont see how scum doesnt do all of this too. | ||
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On April 11 2018 10:21 Tubesock wrote: Sure. But she is uncc’d. And completely untrustworthy so will have almost zero influence. Plus if she’s truthful mafia is using up the rub on her till they kill her. If there’s a medic or cop or whatever they have free reign. by uncc'd you mean she managed to pick one of the many roles that arent in this game? Or the real GS doesnt wanna out themselves because right now, they dont need to? | ||
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On April 11 2018 10:27 Eversince wrote: Or you know, like if there is a invest role in the game... they could like... you know... CHECK ME? Unless I'm GF that's fail safe! But of course simple logic is a GF wouldn't be acting like I am at all but hey, no one seems to like logic. or the cop dies and we lose because we dont lynch obvious scum | ||
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On April 11 2018 10:32 Tubesock wrote: Those could be true realities. I think she’s town GS and is derping. Lots of townies derp massively concerning their claims. Scum generally have polished ones. Dont make me laugh | ||
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On April 11 2018 10:35 Eversince wrote: Thanks Tube, you sparked another interest in my mind. Why would mafia!ES claim a role without even bother looking at how it worked first? I must be slick. [flips hair and smirks]. I'm not even remotely good enough to try to do that so it makes the argument why I would try seem worse r.r because you had to go to sleep and you were the leading wagon? | ||
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On April 11 2018 10:43 Eversince wrote: So I picked a role at random without even bother to see how it worked with half the day left? Because you were leaving? I mean, its obviously not at random but you are terrible at it. Soooo | ||
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On April 11 2018 11:17 Eversince wrote: Because I work 12-18 hr stints you nit wit! I knew I needed to sleep and I was an hour late because I didn't. Thanks! I actually cant lynch this omg. | ||
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On April 11 2018 11:28 Eversince wrote: What's your points on Calix Oats? backtracked on rayn terribly, froze when voting and didnt realize that the lynched dude was being lynched by her scumreads | ||
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On April 11 2018 11:37 Eversince wrote: I found her backpedal on Rayn to be ok. I mentioned before I felt like it was TvT and her stopping to re-eval seemed townie to me. Froze up/ voting with scum reads I will need to go back and look at. I was not around for eod. I saw it coming from 3 posts away which means its manufactured and fake. | ||
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On April 11 2018 11:38 Oatsmaster wrote: nullish leaning scum rayn btw | ||
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On April 11 2018 11:35 Eversince wrote: r.r I'm not going to vote Calix until I get a chance to let her talk. I don't see her as mafia. She's been very open about what she's doing and why she thinks the way that she does. That's ok with me for now. why do you think Im mafia? am i not doing the same thing you think Calix is doing? | ||
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On April 11 2018 11:53 Eversince wrote: You're actively drawing at point in myself and others that are easily exploitable. Which is generally a good way to play. But even the point of this is to find mafia. You're not trying to here. Because even after I've exhuasted myself trying to explain myself, you still push the same points. So then I have to defend the same points, like right now, over in the thread, again, for like the 4'th? time now. Nobody has time for this and why your shoving so hard makes little sense when I'm around to talk to let us just talk. I will answer questions. I have been reclusive at no point in this game. So you're just drawing out clutter in the thread to clutter the thread. I'm highly emotional so I'm easy to be drawn into this sort of thing so then I clutter the thread. That's how I see it. That's why I listen to Vivax when he told me to hush and just try to talk about something else. Seemed like a good idea. I'll continue on that path. Might wanna read my filter again | ||
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On April 11 2018 11:53 Eversince wrote: You're actively drawing at point in myself and others that are easily exploitable. Which is generally a good way to play. But even the point of this is to find mafia. You're not trying to here.. also mildly insulting | ||
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On April 11 2018 12:31 Eversince wrote: Obviously drop the GB mention there. I forgot he was the lynch because I'm operating on no sleep :/ wait so is that a me? | ||
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On April 11 2018 12:41 Eversince wrote: and yeah CH attacks me for much the same reasons you do. Look, You have no vote one yourself yet yes? So why am I mafia? | ||
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On April 11 2018 12:51 Eversince wrote: Did you not read my previous post TWICE? "I don't like Oats at all." THATS NOT A REASON | ||
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On April 11 2018 13:01 Tubesock wrote: Oats, I don’t think rayn is sleeping. What do you mean? I didn’t think his last big post was weird at all. I liked his case on Exo and the rest of his comments. Like the eod criticism he got and his activity level. Especially when it’s from someone who has half the activity. But that’s speaking from someone who’s been lynched many times because I had to leave thread for extended periods of time. hes not really getting a lot of pressure for disappearing so its just a little weird. I think repeating his stuff on Exo wasnt necessary because it literally went nowhere and nobody is even thinking about exo right now | ||
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On April 11 2018 14:34 Tubesock wrote: You’re making it sound like you null rayn. I don’t know why I thought you were more than nullxscummish. Is he wrong on Exo? Aside from weird response. Did you think the post was accurate? I said nullxscummish earlier which is also what I said above lol. I dont think the post is wrong, I also don't think exo is town, it's more that it was unnecessary. | ||
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On April 12 2018 04:26 Calix wrote: Rayn and I just explained why it makes sense though. While I'm here, I have a question. Who the fuck are you even scum-reading right now? Because it sounds like you have way more than three scum-reads. As for town-reads? Nah. Es stuff is similar to the night phase stuff, I don't see how one is more convincing than the other, either you think it's all scummy from the start or it's just another mindless mistake. Ever town, tube town, skynx town, vivax is sliddding away but still town for now. | ||
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On April 12 2018 09:19 Tubesock wrote: If you guys don’t want to off vote ES cause you don’t think Calix is mafia, then fine let’s kill Skynx. Or Exo or Damdred. I’ll support that but you’re all making a mistake on ES. you gotta stop defending ever, all the points you make have already been made by ever. Instead, we shoud just lynch calix cause that shit smellsssss | ||
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On April 12 2018 23:51 Vivax wrote: My scumreads are Calix/HF/ES right now. Off chance rayn and earlier I said off chance you but that doesn't matter until I'm through with all of those names. This whole team makes like noooo sense wtf vivax | ||
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[QUOTE]On April 12 2018 10:23 Tubesock wrote: Anyone on the fence here needs to consider that Eversince is being defended so incredibly hard right now. Despite having worst claim in history. She probably has an important scum role. Meanwhile NOBODY has been defending me. [/QUOTE] How many people are defending her right now? More than 2? Then obviously its not just scum, this makes no sense | ||
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calix/ch/exo/ why would HF switch off of you if hes mafia?!? | ||
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On April 13 2018 01:07 Vivax wrote: I don't believe you actually believe I'm mafia here Oats. You of all people have known me the longest. Maybe I was wrong on you cause that read is really outlandish. WHY IS HF MAFIA WHEN HE DIDNT ACTUALLY WANNA LYNCH YOU?!?> | ||
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On April 13 2018 01:15 Vivax wrote: Which makes me feel much much worse aboutt he game if I actually need to entertain the option you are mafia. I was thinking this day was two SvS wagons but maybe Calix is actually town and you're trying to save ES? Why do you think Calix is more scum than ES anyway? yeah i totally wouldve hard defended my teammate who is literally the worst scumplayer i have ever seen rather than just bus for free cred. | ||
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On April 13 2018 01:34 Vivax wrote: thats fucking bullshit the only reason my lynch didnt go through was that skynx came in AND VOTED NK INSTEAD OF ME. It's just plain out stupid that you think HF/Calix didn't want to lynch me. They just switched cause it wasn't going to happen cause of someone else. If not for Skynx and the two votes on NK I would be DEAD. errrrrrrrrrr no? | ||
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On April 13 2018 01:47 Vivax wrote: You just take everything HF says at face value so if he ever flips town this game cause he decided to just play a shitty obnoxious town game I'm pushing you for TMI cause there is no way the entire game besides me and CH thinks he's town for no reason when he's the strongest scum player on the site. so hes the strongest scum player on the site, yet he is only townread by like 3 people? | ||
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On April 13 2018 01:49 Vivax wrote: But I highly doubt he's town as he would be wary of anyone townreading him on a weak basis. But he's just fine being townread without a single explanation precisely cause eh's mafia. you're kidding right? town hf gets off on people thinking he is town and sheeping him | ||
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just gets really mad people arent listening to him | ||
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On April 13 2018 02:04 Vivax wrote: ??? We were just talking about what HF does when he gets TRd for bad reasons as either alignment. You say he doesn't give a shit about the reason as long as he gets TRd when he's town and when he's mafia he gets mad people don't listen to him? Doesn't compute. I mean, he doesnt care why people are townreading him as any alignment obviously | ||
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On April 13 2018 02:08 Vivax wrote: He does analyze the reads on himself ^town HF thats actually not a townread? | ||
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On April 13 2018 03:00 Vivax wrote: And is also the reason I am so toxic this game given how emotionally involved I have been at all times but only jubjubs don't realize it makes me town by emotionally involved you mean get triggered every time HF gets in your face? | ||
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On April 13 2018 03:28 Vivax wrote: Even if ES somehow flips town everything dictates that she has to be lynched. because she is terrible at the game and we lynch people who are terrible at the game? | ||
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On April 13 2018 04:44 Vivax wrote: Eager to see who dies tonight though. Might just narrow it down enough to end up solving the game. My money is on Oats, CH or myself even though Oats was easily pocketed by HF. HF hard town read by entire town should die here if he's actually town but it's not going to happen. im not sure you know what pocketing means | ||
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On April 13 2018 06:23 Vivax wrote: Yeah no shit Sherlock? But Oats somehow pretended to think that this wasn't the case. is this the part where you call me scum with HF? | ||
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On April 13 2018 06:39 Vivax wrote: No this is where I ask you why you pretend to know what HF would have done. the part where hf is talking about his actions this game compared to me talking about his hypothetical actions in a game where hes mafia? | ||
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On April 13 2018 06:40 Vivax wrote: If he's town this game it makes you look even worse like a scum from the sidelines attacking me for being wrong on him. im also attacking you for going "Es is town" to "no ES is with no additional stuff" | ||
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On April 13 2018 06:50 Vivax wrote: ??? not mutually exclusive? | ||
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On April 13 2018 06:57 Vivax wrote: Definitely want to lynch you for this cause there is only scum motivation for you to do what you did. so is HF still mafia or you dropped that because you "caught" me | ||
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On April 13 2018 06:58 Vivax wrote: It doesn't matter what he is cause you're mafia regardless of what he is. that makes no sense | ||
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On April 13 2018 07:11 Vivax wrote: And add to this your hipster read on ES that 3 other people agreed with me? man, thats such a strong argument | ||
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On April 11 2018 09:16 Oatsmaster wrote: Why would scum HF bother switching the vote to you when town!vivax dies without his intervention? this is the question you have to answer Vivax. What is scum!HF's motivation to get off of you? | ||
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Im telling you that reading ES as town isnt scummy? | ||
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On April 13 2018 07:18 Vivax wrote: This isn't an important point in your case. The important point is why you feel it necessary to say that HF would have switched off me regardless of Skynx coming in and saving me with his vote. A point you keep dodging by pretending not to understand. If HF is town you are just buddying him by attacking me and speaking for him. If he's mafia you are defending your teammate. Enlighten me about what your town motivation could possibly be for defending HF like that. So if mafia HF is seeing that, he sees that ok, noobking is town, i dont really care if he dies so then ill just try to lynch CH for no particular reason? It makes 0 sense. | ||
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On April 13 2018 07:21 Vivax wrote: Why was GB killed N1 Oats over you, HF and rayn who were being almost universally townread with the exception of me and maybe a few others? you wanna rephrase this? "almost universally townread except like maybe a third of the game" | ||
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On April 13 2018 07:23 Vivax wrote: What you argue made no sense as in that HF regardless of his alignment didn't want to lynch me the moment my lynch wasn't going to happen any more. Didn't.Want.To. But he wanted to. You said he didn't. Why? He literally didn't want to lynch you as can be seen by the unvote and vote onto ch | ||
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its just no | ||
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On April 13 2018 16:48 Holyflare wrote: Who do you want to lynch oats? calix | ||
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On April 13 2018 16:56 currentlyhomeless wrote: is this the reason you cant read my posts or are you saying i am scum too i feel like this is deja vu, i swear i said it before but gonna say it again me exo calix vivax all scumreads at the same time makes no fucking sense no its because im really dang tired and i cant follow the train of thought. | ||
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On April 14 2018 18:31 Vivax wrote: That depends really. On whether rayn is town or not this game. Cause I could see it coming from a mile away that mafia Oats wouldn't vote HF and while I initially thought it was HF + rayn I'm now thinking it could be HF + CH, yes I know HF "tried" to lynch him (this is where Tubesocks logic was funny that HF always gets the lynch he wants). So basically whoever is town between CH and rayn has the hammer. But then there's still a day after. Oh and regarding the math all your calculations are bollocks if you don't multiply by the chance there's a miller and/or a GF which are respectively the same in regards to math cause just cuz there's a cop doesn't mean there has to be a miller and a GF. And there can be both or only one of them additionally to a framer which makes your statistics completely pointless so tl;dr: Don't try to math this. And currentlyhopeless also forgot to unvote before voting me. If he isn't kush he sure is full of it. what are you actually talking about | ||
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On April 14 2018 18:38 currentlyhomeless wrote: wtf explain how the claim is untrustworthy we’ll wait exos shady af what more do you need to know? Also 3 blue roles is bad balance | ||
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On April 14 2018 18:45 Holyflare wrote: It's not bad balance and his claim wasn't THAT shady i know you explained it but at least 3 confirmed townies is bad. | ||
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On April 14 2018 20:46 Calix wrote: Nor does he ever use the meta points to talk about how HF's play this game is similar or different compared to his usual town or scum play. On another note, him not voting for ExO despite thinking he's lying is still really really bad. hf is town. im not voting for exo because i dont know that hes lying also, now that i slept and thought about it, miller/framer is a distinct possibility. i do know that you are mafia though. | ||
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On April 15 2018 04:17 Vivax wrote: It's cause I always echo the winds that blow my way and ignoring talking points is what 90 % of this game was doing or Oats + CH wouldn't keep getting away with the nonsense they keep writing and I keep pointing out. Skynx is right I just have to let this game go cause it's really just complete shite. Like right above Oats is talking about framer/miller possibility because??? Because he talks about random pointless shit just to write about it that's why. He didn't follow the cop claim already so him pretending to care about miller and framer is ridiculous and the only reason he would care about it is cause he wants to lynch rayn which isn't a remote possibility anywhere in his filter. He literally uses "I THOUGHT ABOUT MILLER AND FRAMER SO I DONT DOUBT EXO THAT MUCH ANY MORE HERP DERP" which is just horseshit. Any accusations he just shrugs off with "I don't understand" , "I don't know". His first vote without any new content whatsoever was on the wagon that was Calix so he's also following the shit out of thread sentiment since forever. He calls CH scum but doesn't give a shit about him ever. whats the conclusion here and why isnt it "oats is mafia"? | ||
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On April 15 2018 04:38 Vivax wrote: I've been calling you mafia for 1 and a half days and a night but somehow you managed to miss it? K i mean, that post calls the game "gone to complete shite" and then complains about my play like im the one that caused it | ||
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On April 15 2018 04:43 Vivax wrote: This post Oats. How does there being a miller or a framer change anything about your ExO read? First of all if it is a possibility it is only relevant if ExO is actually the cop and we don't know if there are miller and framer. Only cause they CAN exist shouldn't mean to you that your claiming scumread is more trustworthy. Or are you just going to play dumb again. It means that he can be telling the truth and still lying | ||
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On April 15 2018 04:38 Calix wrote: What a ridiculous response. Vivax just called you a bunch of things that mafia does and uses language that heavily implies a mafia read, 'pretending to care' and 'Oats wouldn't keep getting away' being two examples. You also haven't refuted any of his points. there are no actual points in that | ||
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On April 15 2018 05:14 Vivax wrote: Where I come from -1 + 1 makes 0, and zero is what you are saying although you try to make it look like a -1 or a +1 he doesnt know hes lying though | ||
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Hes trying to make the play that "oh maybe mafia would shoot me rather than the parity cop" when in actuality, if he was town and had the gun, he wouldve said that wayyyyyyyyy earlier. | ||
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On April 17 2018 03:14 Calix wrote: Might want to hurry up then, lovie. Pretty much everyone wants your head right now. Why do you want CH dead? his day 1 can die in a fire | ||
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On April 17 2018 03:14 Calix wrote: Might want to hurry up then, lovie. Pretty much everyone wants your head right now. Why do you want CH dead? Why does it matter what my scumteam is | ||
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no, tell me why it matters if I decide VIvax is mafia over you at this stage? | ||
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On April 16 2018 20:20 currentlyhomeless wrote: wait what. if gf is in game and rayn is also scum how would they return opposite alignments you scum bro? what is this post | ||
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On April 17 2018 03:21 Calix wrote: Because it's triple LYLO and you have to get the entire scum team and it might help other people read you if you're not actually mafia? You already know this, probably. If you're of the opinion that "town is already fucked" and "I'm getting lynched anyway" then I'm not convincing you of anything. It is also night time. Also, I dont see what my full team has to do with anything when its not like i have 5 or 6 people. I only have 4.............................................. | ||
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On April 17 2018 03:38 Calix wrote: I'm trying to prod you into saying something good if you're not actually mafia but I won't lie, I have no idea what to say or how to make you do that. I look forward to the reams of amazing content that you're sure to produce once it's not nighttime, I guess? I dont understand how being night means that im not making amazing content. I also dont know why "reams" makes me town, are you looking at this game or no? | ||
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On April 17 2018 03:55 Holyflare wrote: Lynch all people that call me town first innit. but that includes me. Im not a fan | ||
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On April 17 2018 03:54 Calix wrote: I was being facetious with my last line. I'm just a bit frustrated you're not easier to read and I basically have you as mafia because of POE and making some dodgy comments. Not exactly a water-tight case that fills me with confidence. Anyway these posts are just me whining about how Game Is Hard because I'm restless so I'll leave you to do whatever it is you want to do. Thats fair. Vivax and HF shitfighting all over the thread for like 4 days straight was extremely annoying | ||
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On April 17 2018 04:33 Holyflare wrote: The only way they kill the parity cop is so they can play me vs rayn at lylo. Fucking failure nk. this makes no sense. | ||
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On April 17 2018 04:50 Calix wrote: Rayn should be the lynch because he complains and berates other people but doesn't contribute anything 'better' or try to fix anything. His filter is full of negative comments, criticisms, etc, but no solutions. Mafia do this because it's easy to point out someone's mistakes but it's harder and actually pro-town to actually create and push for answers. A lot of his scum-reads are just "things that don't make sense" or "I do not understand how it comes from town" and not things that actually make people mafia. He uses lots of WIFOM arguments when defending himself, such as with comments like "I wouldn't do X as mafia" and his latest posts were lacking in substance. By this I mean he introduced gun WIFOM (something which nobody else can confirm or disprove ever) which can only confuse, not clarify, matters for the town. This isn't a case because that implies I want a response from rayn. I just want him dead. I am open to an Oats lynch today as well but I do not actually have a good case on him aside from "POE + dodgy comments + could be scum with most people" so I'm feeling a bit waffly there. Whos your third mafia? | ||
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On April 17 2018 04:46 Vivax wrote: I'll leave the honourable society to their pointless ramblings then and just wait until TS and CH somehow lose the game for us. seems a little passive dontcha think? | ||
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On April 17 2018 14:45 Tubesock wrote: I’m voting Oats. I don’t think the gun thing makes rayn mafia. Mostly just funny. I’m going to be rereading. Can you explain your switch!?? I mean, are the percentages that im mafia higher than 50%?? | ||
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On April 18 2018 03:42 Holyflare wrote: the case is you've done shit all fair | ||
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I mean, hes the one complaining about people not responding to cases and whatever when hes pretty much just gone like "screw this game, i dont care anymore, im voting oats". Not sure how i can respond to that. Nobody has any reasons why they want to lynch me. | ||
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On April 18 2018 06:19 Calix wrote: Go post some intelligent thoughts on what the best mafia teams are using post analysis or VCA or something related to mafia. Whining about being lynched when you aren't doing anything does not make one sympathetic to your plight. And if you're just posting to avoid mod-kill then at least add some cute animal pictures This game is solved already what are you talking about. | ||
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