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I have problems with the big post, from regfan and how people reacted to it. I read it (well skimmed) and I was like “Literally that is fake for the little time”, seemed more of a dumb post/meme thing if everything. | ||
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Like he probably tried to be funny but failed, I mean no mafia would put effort to say “hey I am a seer?” When there is a real one so yeah. | ||
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On June 26 2018 10:34 raynpelikoneet wrote: there is nothing that says there is a seer in the game. Exactly why it is a fake post | ||
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Idk, if someone tells me “oh rely on me you are dumb” I would just ignore it. I am totes a zen cake now. | ||
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- I have free time but no one will do shit - Actually I will try to do work - Oh look, a silly post by regfan, it is the more interesting shit but is not worth. | ||
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“Is it because he stroke a phrase”? Because that was all I got. | ||
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On June 26 2018 10:49 Tictock wrote: I'm not sure I saw anything in Calix's post that made the assumption that Gemma-Reg is town, but I overall agree with rayn here. Calix's switch in stance from "lets rando vote someone for lol's" to "thats not AI, don't vote" seemed sudden to me. Especially when my suggestion to pile votes on Reg had nothing to do with alignment. I feel slightly hypocritical here though, kus I switched my own stance of "I don't wanna vote pointlessly" to off the cuff voting someone just kus they did something I think is stupid. Actually maybe I do see what you mean here Rayn, there is no way Calix should be able to make any assumption about when Reg prepared that post. PM's went out an hour before the game started so there was plenty of time to decide to do something like that after getting a role, and there should be no real way to tell when someone makes that call. Anyways, I'll optimistically call Rayn and Mocsta town here. Dude wtf You actually read the thing you said it was nosense/wouldnt read? O_o | ||
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Ask rayn or slenderman to describe my play style or someone else like HF. | ||
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I got messed up with the names, nevermind. | ||
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On June 26 2018 11:21 Mocsta wrote: This question caught me off guard. If anything, I was anticipating CopCake to declare Rayn: town or mafia. Clearly, the "early game' scum reads struck a chord with CopCake enough to contribute his/her independent thought process of those reads (e.g. Tictock). At minimum, I was expecting that thought process to follow through to the initiator. Therefore, I find this exchange odd. Yes its a dead question - which obviously town can ask. But i find it odd, because its a dead question to someone that I thought woudl be on CopCake radar. Lol, the question is to make a better read on rayn. @Regfan that question is too early to ask since not everyone has posted but I would shot HF as mafia. I dont get his tt reasons. | ||
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On June 26 2018 11:34 Mocsta wrote: i dont understand how it leads to anything. If rayn calls you town, as either alignment, you will walk away feeling good about yaself. If rayn calls yo mafia, as either alignment, you will walk away with a sense of OMGUS. Dead question. Having said that, I do share suspicion towards Holyflare. Not enough to lean scum, but enough to pay extra attention to new content. Whether you agreed or not, at least to me, superfically, the Tictock stuff is fine. On the otherhand, whilst the strikethrough is more likely to be mafia than town in origin, its not conclusive and I find to be overly hammed up by HF. My expectation for a town!HF is for him to do his own campaigning. If he does this, even if its against me. I shall call him town. We will have to wait and see. We are like Tina and Lex | ||
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On June 26 2018 11:45 Conversion wrote: I've done nothing but spam lynch Holyflare, so why am I townie to you? I literally touch my screen, close my eyes and try to read your aura. Yours is green. | ||
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I need to be more careful with names. Like for a moment I also believed Calixto was Gemma, is the first time I see a same account being used by two as an hydra. | ||
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I do think your question was reasonable from someone who doesnt know how close rayn and me are ^^ so dont worry there. | ||
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Mocca followed me, you didnt even care for the answer I gave you. Your reason to make the case on Mocca is quite ironic. | ||
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On June 26 2018 12:33 Regfan wrote: Hum. I'd like you to run through this a little more for me please, how it's played out is me mentioning a few of my concerns re; Mocsta to Rayn given he'd know him better than I would and asking if the concerns I have are playstyle based or not and wanting to know his reads there. Then having Mocsta ask me to elaborate on the concerns/what I'm talking about ther leading towards me making the post linking his earlier ones, so this "Seemed out of place" thing is kind of ???? - R I literally dont understand this post. Someone halp, it is like many fancy words but I cant follow. | ||
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“How is ur playstyle” and “Who would you shut” so if you were trying to get info, you got it but you didnt follow. What will you do with this? Do you think HF is mafia or not? I think your focus on Mocca it is not right. | ||
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On June 26 2018 16:06 Calix wrote: Because I can. But I've changed my mind. ##Vote: CopCake Two reasons for this: 1) Asks stupid questions. This is self-explanatory. She hasn't asked anything that would actually advance the game forward. But they are questions you make when you want to LOOK like you're doing things. 2) Makes excuses for way too many players in way too short a time period which she is probably doing because she has TMI and knows that the players are being genuine. I'll try and explain the part that first made me suspicious. The several posts she made where she claimed Regfan's post was a joke would seemingly imply that Regfan's post isn't AI (since it's just a joke). But then she says this: This stood out to me because in the same sentence, she says it's a joke ('probably tried to be funny') but then also gives reasoning that implies Regfan is town for 'putting effort into claiming seer when there is a real seer'. I do not understand how she concludes that a 'meme' or 'joke post' makes someone town just because they put a lot of effort into it. Especially when she says straight afterwards that it is "probably a meme". The thought process seems a bit inconsistent here. A lot of her posts either make excuses for players or town-read them a bit too easily for my liking. I think it's because she knows they're town and thus KNOWS they're genuine. Here are some examples of where I got this impression: + Show Spoiler + On June 26 2018 10:44 CopCake wrote: He had the same thinking process as me - I have free time but no one will do shit - Actually I will try to do work - Oh look, a silly post by regfan, it is the more interesting shit but is not worth. On June 26 2018 11:53 CopCake wrote: I literally touch my screen, close my eyes and try to read your aura. Yours is green. On June 26 2018 12:20 CopCake wrote: Nah, Mocsta question about why I asked that makes a lot of sense. It doesnt bother me at all, in fact it is pretty townie. On June 26 2018 12:28 CopCake wrote: Yeah it leans mafia, well not exactly how different gemma/reg are but the mini case of you seemed out of place. I do think your question was reasonable from someone who doesnt know how close rayn and me are ^^ so dont worry there. I also hated these posts. We have this super-analytical start to the game, CopCake is in the thread as all this stuff is going down, and all she really wants to do is talk about inactives and defend people. In conclusion, CopCake's early game and her attempts to hide how she isn't pushing the game forward is more likely to come from mafia than town. In other news, I've only skim-read the thread and haven't filtered anyone but CopCake. I didn't understand raynpelikoneet's wall-posts on me or how anything he said makes me scummy, not gonna lie. Mocsta seems townie to me but the main reason I say this is because he's posting differently from his last game (where he was mafia). His tone seems more natural and carefree to me and I don't get the impression he's pushing any kind of agenda. I haven't properly read the cases put forth by HF, Regfan, Mocsta, rayn, whatever, so no opinion on those until I reread. 1.- Stupid questionSSSSS? I only remember Rayns. 2.- I ASSUME you now think Regfan is town??? 3.- Me confusing members I dont know is common specially if I am not used to the member base, can ask Rayn, slenderman, etc. 4.- Oh sweetheart, I only cared for the inactives? Maybe that is why I jumped to explain why I think ticktock is town, or maybe why the regfan first post is a meme, or why Mocsta’s thinking process about my question is not bad. Like literally, if I tried to pocket people I would follow a train but nope 🚂 but nope this is cake giving her reads. 5.- “Cake says regfan is town for the seer comment etc meme whatever” Eh, I said that the post is NOT mafia indicative ^^ since no mafia would want to have the spotlight since the beginning. Nevertheless; I didnt like regfan asking me questions and throwing them away, like he got info, he didnt do anything with it but yet he is judging mocta for doing the same? (While mocta’s question is good so is quite ironic from reg) So now, tell me Calix, who told you to go after me? I am an Open Book and I think my process of thinking has been on top. | ||
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Like any town would try to clean himself but creating a case of me (Bad one). Literally his case is “town do this, mafia do that” not wveryone play the same way. @mocsta Like forcing me to push someone lmao, I already said before I suspect HF and I am not liking the last couple of posts of regfan, specially his engage towards you | ||
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“He stroke some phrase” He also never answered me, when I asked to explain me his case, probably one of the stupid questions I made m | ||
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On June 26 2018 08:15 Calix wrote: It was clearly written before he received his role because if he was an investigative role, he (or she, since this is Gemma?) would know that Cops on this site don't get N0 checks. Thus it's not AI. I would like to know more about the two players in the hydra though. How many games have they played, where are they from, stuff like that. Actually Calix. I assume you here are saying that Regfan/Gemma is town for posting a meme no? Or what did you mean with this? “Prefabricated” “Before getting a role pm” It is very... specific. Like someone would write that prefabricated... who on their right mind would? | ||
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On June 26 2018 19:14 Calix wrote: Didn't HF just say that TT has a scummy tone and forced opening posts? I don't find it persuasive but I also can see how he might conclude that as town. And he just recently explained to Mocsta that 'the phrasing TT uses feels overly wordy for the little points he is making and it feels un-TT-like' so what does he have left to explain in your opinion? It was supper bad, like I have played with HF before and he is good, super good. His TT case was bad, dissapointing. I have to interfere because I had his same process, TT didnt seem forced, and I think after that, he also looks super town. | ||
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On June 26 2018 19:19 Calix wrote: Your assumption is incorrect. I state in that very post you quoted that I think it's NAI. Explain your post to others, not just me. Others had problems with it also. | ||
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On June 26 2018 19:25 Calix wrote: So a meta/ expectation read. Sure. Precisely how strong are your other town reads, may I just ask? I don't think TT is 'super town' myself; there just isn't enough evidence to have a read THAT strong in my opinion. So I would like to know how you have that much confidence since I'm not getting the same strong town vibes from people. I'm also going to divert the topic onto something more general since I don't know you very well: How do you play? How many games have you played? When was the last time you actually played and specifically when you played with HF? I'm assuming you're an old-timer who was dragged back from the Stone Age myself I have like explained myself about how I play but I like others to comment better. I played with HF in the drawing mafia, I think that was my last with him? Yeah it was. As for town, Mocca and TT. Coversion also leans town, loved his “oh I have only said lynch HF how it makes me town”. | ||
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3:30 am, just came to check and now I got hooked. Not healthy. Bye | ||
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I dont know if there is a seer or not, I read the rules and it said there is like a cop and a roleblocker as much depending of the set up. But Alas, I took regfan’s silly post as that, silly because I dont think someone “smart” would do that and expect to be taken seriously, it was obvious a meme post lr some shit. (Which was already verified that is a copy pasta by regfan) Either way, I think that is easy to deduce and no one should have felt offended like rayn and I think HF did. Regfan’s first post is NOT town or mafia indicative. Now I am gonna post for ##Calix Reasons later but the principal is how calix came out of nowhere to build a case. What was the post that made you think I was mafia and made you take the effort to filter me Calix? 🤭 | ||
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I feel better about HF now, like he looks townish. I have problens with regfan, I wonder if that first post was a “Oh but mafia would never do that at first” thing, like quit suspicious but it worked the opposite way since rayn and HF were on it. I have also troubles with regfan asking me for reads with a lot of pressure but doing nothing with them, like I said I suspected HF but he never refuted, never said oh cake you are mistaken, etc. In addition, he seems to know me because he told Gemma about me and rayn being a couple 🤔 or at least has a little of knowledge of me. Idk, it is super odd. | ||
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On June 27 2018 01:22 raynpelikoneet wrote: Maybe he is a stalker? :o Or maybe i have just talked with him on messenger. Who knows? Huh, well you know he asked about me and I told him to ask you or slendy but asking outside the thread wouldnt it be bad? :p But if you have told him before then nevermind. I just dont like him, he seems mafiaish to me. | ||
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I will throw and say: Mocca anf TT are town Rayn is town HF is townish | ||
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I need two on each category. | ||
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On June 27 2018 02:28 Calix wrote: I don't have anything insightful with mafia reads. My current thinking is "the active people seem townie so there's probably more mafia in the inactive section" but I also don't know how to sort between boxerfred/ Koshi/ SlenderMan/ Vivax/ ShoCkeyy. I guess Koshi and Vivax and ShoCkeyy because they've posted and their posts are pretty underwhelming and accomplish even less shit than I have? And Vivax might be trying to pocket/ white-knight me since I'm looking like a likely mislynch right now. I realise I'm still voting for you so lemme change that: ##Vote: Vivax. I think Mocsta is town because he seems to be posting off-the-cuff and doesn't seem to have preformed conclusions and is flexible with his reads. His style is different from his last game too. Conversion's town because he seems to be having fun while still contributing when he wants. Tictock's probably town. I haven't actually opened his filter though. I'm just being cocky and assuming he'll fuck up really bad at some point if he's scum so I'm not worried about him. But werent you calling me scum for focusing on inactives? o_O | ||
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On June 27 2018 02:35 Calix wrote: No, I was calling you mafia for that within the context of when you posted about the inactives while a bunch of other shit was going down. Meanwhile I'm talking about inactives because few of the active people look like good D1 lynch candidates. Okay yeah, I could #yolo vote Regfan or HF but that would be dumb since they'll actually play and respond to accusations and the like. Also I'm going to ask you why you think HF is townish now. You were scum-reading him, then you said you felt better about him but you never really explained why or what posts made you conclude that. Other shit is also going on here yet you want inactives to participate. I didnt want to have a general read on people on point fingers or better said, have a strong opinion before I have seen the inactives play to have a better view of the whole game. HF is making fair points, with the way he reads me (I annoyed a lot in the drawing game) to pointing out other members. I had him on suspect because he wasnt very “agressive” or his playstyle was different. I don still think he is playing a little different but maybe it is because no one has pissed him off yet maybe? | ||
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Like literally pocketing me is the worst mafia play someone can do on this site since I dont have a lot of influence here. | ||
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Idg why HF is mafia, I believed me and you were like mind twins in the game but alas we are not. | ||
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Day 1 Vote Count ShoCkeyy[1]:ShoCkeyy Holyflare[1]:Conversion Regfan[3]:Mocsta,Regfan,Ticktock Calix[1]:raynpelikoneet Koshi[1]:Koshi TheSlenderMan[1]:TheSlenderMan CopCake[2]:CopCake,Vivax boxerfred[1]:boxerfred Vivax[2]:Holyflare,Calix Regfan is currently the lynch. The deadline is Wednesday, Jun 27 10:59pm GMT (GMT+00:00) which is in . [/QUOTE ] Excuse me but I havent voted? | ||
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Btw I hope slenderman had posted because if not I am gonna feel dissapointed. | ||
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Let’s start with post 61 of this game. He calls that Gemma/Reg post was - premade - - before the game - Idk, it is so strange to me that he “excused” them On June 26 2018 08:15 Calix wrote: It was clearly written before he received his role because if he was an investigative role, he (or she, since this is Gemma?) would know that Cops on this site don't get N0 checks. Thus it's not AI. I would like to know more about the two players in the hydra though. How many games have they played, where are they from, stuff like that. Then it is funny at post #172 Calix quotes conversion why him is voting for HF (at the moment I think I was saying that HF looked mafia) and his answer is this “Because I can but now I have changed my mind and I am voting copcake” So I need TL people here, is Calix able to vote HF as a joke? Just gor the lols for the sale of it or not? I need to check the time exactly when did he vote or why conversion made that post. I havent checked the voting thread but if there is a post of Calix voting for HF while HF was getting questioned then I need to know what changed his mind if it wasnt a joke? I mean it took Calix time to change his vote on me. Then there is his case on the same post about me. On June 26 2018 16:06 Calix wrote: Because I can. But I've changed my mind. ##Vote: CopCake Two reasons for this: 1) Asks stupid questions. This is self-explanatory. She hasn't asked anything that would actually advance the game forward. But they are questions you make when you want to LOOK like you're doing things. 2) Makes excuses for way too many players in way too short a time period which she is probably doing because she has TMI and knows that the players are being genuine. I'll try and explain the part that first made me suspicious. The several posts she made where she claimed Regfan's post was a joke would seemingly imply that Regfan's post isn't AI (since it's just a joke). But then she says this: This stood out to me because in the same sentence, she says it's a joke ('probably tried to be funny') but then also gives reasoning that implies Regfan is town for 'putting effort into claiming seer when there is a real seer'. I do not understand how she concludes that a 'meme' or 'joke post' makes someone town just because they put a lot of effort into it. Especially when she says straight afterwards that it is "probably a meme". The thought process seems a bit inconsistent here. A lot of her posts either make excuses for players or town-read them a bit too easily for my liking. I think it's because she knows they're town and thus KNOWS they're genuine. Here are some examples of where I got this impression: + Show Spoiler + On June 26 2018 10:44 CopCake wrote: He had the same thinking process as me - I have free time but no one will do shit - Actually I will try to do work - Oh look, a silly post by regfan, it is the more interesting shit but is not worth. On June 26 2018 11:53 CopCake wrote: I literally touch my screen, close my eyes and try to read your aura. Yours is green. On June 26 2018 12:20 CopCake wrote: Nah, Mocsta question about why I asked that makes a lot of sense. It doesnt bother me at all, in fact it is pretty townie. On June 26 2018 12:28 CopCake wrote: Yeah it leans mafia, well not exactly how different gemma/reg are but the mini case of you seemed out of place. I do think your question was reasonable from someone who doesnt know how close rayn and me are ^^ so dont worry there. I also hated these posts. We have this super-analytical start to the game, CopCake is in the thread as all this stuff is going down, and all she really wants to do is talk about inactives and defend people. In conclusion, CopCake's early game and her attempts to hide how she isn't pushing the game forward is more likely to come from mafia than town. In other news, I've only skim-read the thread and haven't filtered anyone but CopCake. I didn't understand raynpelikoneet's wall-posts on me or how anything he said makes me scummy, not gonna lie. Mocsta seems townie to me but the main reason I say this is because he's posting differently from his last game (where he was mafia). His tone seems more natural and carefree to me and I don't get the impression he's pushing any kind of agenda. I haven't properly read the cases put forth by HF, Regfan, Mocsta, rayn, whatever, so no opinion on those until I reread. 1.- Cake is mafia because she makes stupid questioooonsss 2.- She makes many mistaked. For me it looks he took advantage of me confusing him with conversion but whateves, the important part here is the bolded part. “Rayn is calling me mafia but instead of clearing myself I am making a case of cake that I got out of nowhere” If your vote at HF, once again, happened when I called him mafia or suspicious, then it makes no sense or little sense that you started to suspect but instead took an opportunity when I made a mistake to get heat on me and had rayn to look somewhere else. Calix considers me also mafia even if I have the same read at mostcs, who got suspicious by everyone because of his question to me about rayn. Let us not forget that his red part is what made him so suspicious of me, like he gave regfan/gemma space to be and not call them mafia at all for a premade post but me trying to think that maybe they are not mafia for a meme means then he in the beginning believed that regfan’s/gemma’s post was scummy, and if he believed that... why doesnt he called it out. Wow so many conclusion I have gotten just filtering this post Lmao feeling confident of calling you mafia now but let’s move on to next posts. - In post #177 Calix says I am mafia because I havent done any magia read because as mafia is harder to fabricate evidence for a town but literally, once again, my suspicious was on HF and if you voted for him not for the lols then... I also have problems how Calix is forcing me in post #177 to vote for someone. Post #187 and #189 seems like you were joking on the HF vote. Post #212 you dont care about my old games, your read on me is because of this game and you dont care what other players have to say about me or what they know about my “meta” but hey 👋 you ask me about how I play, my last games with HF, etc. It seems that info is irrelevant to you or what others have to say, because it doesnt matter, in your eyes I am mafia because I mistook conversion for you and because I make stupid questions 😦 Post #214 Calix on suicide watch because his probably mafia buddy regfan made a very mafiaish post that even Gemma said so 😂 On June 26 2018 22:09 Calix wrote: Did this guy who has literally never seen me play before just say that me being 'aggressive' is out of character? JFC. If I'm your scum-read then why aren't you trying to talk TO me here? I'm literally right here in the thread with you and you don't seem to give a shit. This post is a jewel. Like before Calix was like “I dont care if rayn thinks I am mafia because I have a good case on cake” but his town read Mocca calls him out and he rages 🤗 so now Calix... do you care or not if people call you mafia? 👀 I mean you said you dont need to deffend yourself when you have a good case, right? On June 26 2018 22:38 Calix wrote: Do you have any other reads? You're bringing up TT a lot to try and explain what's essentially a tone read but without really pushing it, adding new reasons, looking at the bigger picture, etc, so I am curious. Are you here calling here HF mafia? Because he is focusing too much on TT , I mean... if you called me mafia for notnhabing reads or for not pushing people I suppose you think HF is mafia. Just an “educated guess” On June 26 2018 22:57 Calix wrote: How would I know CopCake is 'confusing'? I have no knowledge of her play. With this in mind, I can't see how you concluded what you did. Especially the part about me caring how I look. And here you say that you dont care about my meta or rayn’s post but if HF says it then is ok. I am done with this shit and filtering you, it is full of lies and conteadictions. Obvious mafia is obvious. | ||
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On June 27 2018 12:50 Tictock wrote: I am removing Mocsta from my town pool, until further notice. That is all. Elaborate? | ||
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Since I know you love me and respect me <3 you will take the effort to try to understand my point of view here. | ||
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I just read your other case post #426 but I dont think just one post is strong enough to lock down someone as mafia lr toen. It is Calix progression and how he contradics what makes me think he is mafia. | ||
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On June 27 2018 13:56 Mocsta wrote: Firstly, I believe I may have called you out first, possibly even on the same page as Calix "case". Secondly, I am not stating Calix is blatantly copying me or thread sentiment; however, if she did, thats more likely to be a town tell than mafia. I am saying she is echoing thread sentiment with her own twist - which is so often a mafia thing to do, simply because it works. Lastly, Calix argued the CopCake read quite vigorously, and talks about OMGUS, which leads to "tunneled" I find that one of the key differences between how mafia and town walk away from tunneled reads is that: mafia are focused on "perception/looking good" so will ensure things are said that look good superficially. Everything is clean and quoteable for future reference. Town on the otherhand are a mess. You have someone that has focused so much energy on one outcome that the rest of the game is almost a non-entity and thus are stuck, and have none of the quotable references to walk out looking good. For me, Calix says she is stuck, but is ensuring that this position is transparent in the thread. That to me is pretty much the most mafia-sided mindset I have seen from anyone all game, which is a large chunk of why my vote is cast that way. I dont think you called me out, your question about me and rayn was pretty reasonable from my point of view because if I was in your position I would have probably done the same and Calix called me out for different things, stupid quesstioonSSSSS | ||
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On June 27 2018 14:00 Tictock wrote: I think I am also just pretty against lynching Calix today. I still a bit of sus on her, but her play as the day has gone on has left me feeling like their is a solid chance she could be town here still. Even if I was still toying with the idea of Calix being in my working Mafia team (which is purely just to keep my imagination going, I don't actually think I have a good chance at pinging the entire team D1), I would probably advocate against her lynch today as she is a bad player to lynch D1. Honestly I really want to push town to do the smart thing for once D1 and kill off someone like Shokey or Koshi. Boxer deserves something worse than a lynch for signing up with an exclamation right before the game starts then not posting for most of D1 (assuming he does post and nothing truly terrible happened to him). I also think Vivax is probably a fine lynch, and want more people to relook at Mocsta again since he's fresh on my mind now. Where is slendy in this? Why do you suddenly protect Calix? | ||
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On June 27 2018 14:04 Tictock wrote: @Cake I will look into your case either as I go to bed, or when I get up in the morning. But I want you to imagine if you thought there was even like a 70% chance Rayn was mafia, but you really weren't sure. Would you feel like the best lynch D1 would be Rayn? This is an obvious appeal to emotion, but I think that is the best way to explain to you where I am sitting on Calix atm. Are you dating Calix? | ||
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On June 27 2018 14:15 Tictock wrote: Wait that would have made a difference to you? My point was that I'd put Calix, Rayn, and HF as a similar calibure of player, actually I have that sense about Regfan as well. I don't think one day of discussion is sufficient to determine their alignment. Oh I get it now, so Calix is smart as rayn and HF. | ||
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I mean even Gemma herself called out regfan in a post. | ||
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1.- Cake makes stupid questioonssssss 2.- Cake hasnt pushed someone | ||
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Because yeah I tend to get paranoid but how does Calix know I get paranoid? Or is it normal nowdays on TL to get paranoid on a day 1? | ||
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Cared about how is my playstyle or get to know me? No Took in consideration what rayn said? No Stopped when HF told him I am confusing? Yes I have problems with this, I am actually trying to see these with different eyes but when TWO strong players told her NO is when Calix stopped. | ||
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3 town players and why 3 mafia players and why Reads pls. I think I have asked this before to someone but I didnt fet an answer. 🤷🏽♀️ | ||
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It didnt make me thing “Oh well this read is good maybe Calix is town” but it didnt happen. The only universe I can think of you being town is if Rayn is mafia. | ||
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Sounds like appeal to emotion. Everyone is busy. Everyone has a life. Me right now is answering from a gym so yeah. | ||
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On June 27 2018 23:11 Koshi wrote: Going to enjoy more sun. I will put it in my brain to check when watching soccer. Go Mexico go go | ||
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On June 27 2018 22:41 Calix wrote: Talking with you is a waste of time then. You don't assess what I'm saying, only how what I say makes you feel. P.S: That "if it's not X player it must be Y" association is terrible and you should never make those sorts of reads ever. Well that is your problen them. I got regfan’s “his voye on HF is clear” and so when you explained but other than that I cant see you being town. I filtered you yesterday (not all posts) but I find you to be scummy, most of it is for my “case” that came out of no where and you dont caring for my meta unless it was “very recent” Yeah I use a lot of “feels” on this, with a little of night actions since actions dont clear at all a player. So, at this moment, and I am asking calming and trying to understand you. Let’s imagine you are town and mafia is framing you but they dont know you have a gun and you decide to use it. Who would you shot? Give me something to understand your playstyle and how you scumread people. | ||
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On June 27 2018 23:48 Regfan wrote: This is more or less where we're at as a hydra, btw. Regfan Mocsta Holyflare Calix raynpelikoneet CopCake TheSlenderMan boxerfred Conversion Ticktock Vivax Koshi ShoCkeyy We wouldn't lynch anyone in the top tier right now and we think they're all town with varying levels of confidence. We'd both bet the game on Mocsta being town, and I don't think we're very doubtful of anyone in that grouping being town. The second lot are question marks but probably not people we would lynch today when it comes down it, unless we couldn't get anyone in the bottom grouping, and the bottom grouping are people we scumread to some degree, although I'm somewhat uncomfortable voting Vivax at this point given Koshi's treatment of him. I feel really conflicted about all of my scumreads which isn't particularly good when it's supposed to be my job to take care of that side of things but I'm in the middle of a nervous breakdown IRL so I'm just going to blame that. -G How am I even town in the eye of both you? Lol | ||
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On June 27 2018 23:36 Calix wrote: Well duh. People change as they get older so why would I put THAT much stock into meta from...whenever you used to play? I know I'm quite different from when I first started playing and that wasn't that long ago. I used to be extremely aggressive and very rarely reconsidered my reads. I don't see how this question will help you understand me that well but sure. I'd shoot one of the AFKs since they're not giving town any information to begin with and it saves us from wasting a lynch on those people. Because threatening to lynch someone who posts is better than trying to pressure someone who will not post since new information is revealed and reads can develop. Then if the person being pressured makes it clear they are town within those 48 hours then you can switch votes to an inactive player without losing too much if that inactive person is town. If, during that time, you think that townies are the only people being pressured all day then you can look at the people who have been skirting by, not sticking their necks out, pretending to do more than they have, etc, and push them to the surface instead of defaulting to an inactive player. Because mafia are usually the people who are 'there' but not doing too much to solve the game or who have really unmemorable filters or whatnot. I'd say what I've just written here is how I do things in most games. You shouldn't take it as AI or anything. I wouldnt use my gun on a afk because there is like so much rich material here to judge to make town reads or mafis trafs Going for a afk means you dont feel secure enough with your reads or it is what it looks for me. If in all games it was ok to lynch an afk over someonr very suspicious idk why we are playing mafia then. | ||
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I dont get why null tho, or even mafia. If I make so many stupid posts is because I am mafia and cant make a good case for a town since it is “harder for mafia to fake cases” | ||
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Ticktok’s suddenly change of heart on calix was pretty strange. Like if he knew from the beggining Calix was like a “Super God” playing mafia why didnt he say thay since the beggining? It would give me another background. I also didnt like his smooth talk of “appeal to emotion” towards wanting me to change my vote. | ||
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Welp at least we go to the next round. | ||
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On June 28 2018 01:34 Vivax wrote: Mocsta is totally mafia btw How? | ||
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On June 28 2018 01:58 Regfan wrote: Because it's fucking toxic, rayn made Regfan hate the game when he's trying to get back into mafia and find time to enjoy it again, I love Regfan and you have no idea how much that horseshit fucking pisses me off it's actually unbelievable how insensitive rayn and his girlfriend have been towards Reg. Not to mention half the players have just been insulting us for our playstyle. So yeah it's a shitty game. .......... | ||
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But if this “explosion” is staged or fake idk what I will think of this. Peace out. Not gonna the lurk the thread until the end of the day, that was too much to me. | ||
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On June 28 2018 03:03 Tictock wrote: I take back what I said about you earlier in the game Gamma (Gemma?) We can be friends. Gamma? Gemma? Explain that. | ||
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I need an explenation of the Gamma part or I will imagine he wants to distance himself from the hydra. | ||
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The mafia team to me is Calix-Ticktock-Regfan Or Calix-Ticktock-Inactive that has posted If Calix ended up to be town then I will look at you Rayn but I am confident that Calix is mafia and I dont know why others are trying to make you reconsider ir asking me to look at you. I mean knowing you, you just dont tunnel someone for the sake of it and you dont pull the “I am bad I am bad” after it 🤔 besides if you dont die early you are mafia, that is a fact. | ||
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1.- It is a good player we shall not lose ? ? ? ? (No offense Cali btw, after tha Gemma reaction I am trying to be careful to not insult someone in any way) | ||
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On June 28 2018 04:58 Calix wrote: Have you ever considered the RADICAL world where Rayn/ Calix is TvT? Fucking insane, I know. Let me try to see town and town violence. Who are you mafia? Dont give me inactives Who is trying to frame you? | ||
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On June 28 2018 04:59 raynpelikoneet wrote: Like if calix is town why am i mafia? There is a reason I asked you if you think I am town. In my paranoid world, I would think you tried to pocket me. Would be the first red light. I mean I have my own reads but I also rely on the experience other players had with each other. | ||
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On June 28 2018 05:03 raynpelikoneet wrote: And what was your read on me after? Your read after what? Begining I was like “Eh he is distancing” Then asked you for this very reason, your “idk” gave a little of red lights because I believed it would be easy to read me as town but then when i saw you took the time to read pst ganes and found facts and proof to show anyone else how my meta works and not just “feels” confirmed me you are town. But there is this small, really really really small chance that maybe you ate trying to pocket me but that only works if Calix is town. | ||
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On June 28 2018 05:09 Tictock wrote: You have successfully been introduced to TL Mafia. I suggest you run far far away, this is definitely representative of most of the games here. I'm regretting my own choices right now. Rayn had played with regfan before, like years ago and they are still friends. I dont think people should take mafia that seriously unless something unfair happens. | ||
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On June 28 2018 05:10 raynpelikoneet wrote: mhm.. Are you gonna say I am mafia now? ^^ | ||
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On June 28 2018 05:19 raynpelikoneet wrote: holyflare. i am like 80% sure calix is mafia. how sure you are in that tt is mafia? You dont see the TT x Calix mafia team? | ||
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I know I deffended TT in the begining of the game but the way he just changed in 180 degrees his opinion is Calix screams bullshit to me. | ||
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On June 28 2018 05:29 Calix wrote: Did you actually find his 'analysis' convincing? Because this is a really terrible reason to town-read someone. I think you assume I like him because he has the same suspects? Nope, the way he said not to kill afkrs is good since I agree with it. Why to give mafia a kill when I have an ocean of posts that will give me a mafia? Like it would be stupid if all mafia are inactive atm. | ||
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I used to think TT was town then his 180 change of heart made me realize he might not. I dont want to tinfoil, I used to tinfoil a lot in other games and it doesnt work so rn I am like 1.- if A acts scummy and continues to be scummy and blame others, wanting to kill afkrs so she can save herself etc then she is mafia. 2.- Tiktok deffended you with “Oh she is capable of things like HF and rayn” I dont doubt you are, but his kind of “appeal to emotion” comment was ehhhh, he was smooth talking to change my mind. So now what? We are stuck here with several people point fingers at you: - Cake - Rayn - Mocca - Shokey What now? Have you considered you have done something wrong and that is why many people are accusing you? Or are we all wrong? | ||
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But we share the same opinion on not killing afkrs What is the difference? | ||
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On June 28 2018 05:47 Vivax wrote: All the proof you need for this man to be town tbh Nah mate, the bolded part is false and pretty ehh “not educated” | ||
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On June 27 2018 00:56 Vivax wrote: Very caustic, sheepable case on cop too. I'd agree on calix being town here. 🤔 well I mean you called mocca mafia, now you agree witj calix on me, let’s see how your filter continues, I am on page one. | ||
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On June 27 2018 02:45 Vivax wrote: I'll go with mocsta/cop/tbd for now. Mocsta cause his reaction to HF countering him felt a lot like kneejerk and cause of the closet psychologist stuff. Cop for reasons said. Who is tbd here? | ||
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On June 27 2018 17:33 Vivax wrote: There's a reasonable chance HF and rayn are mafia this game cause reasons. You should sheep this ironclad case. You wanted to lynch: Mocca/cake/tbd Then koshi Then this Wow man! Your reads change a lot. | ||
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On June 27 2018 21:31 Vivax wrote: I've actually been fairly susp. of conv. all day btw. But he's been a good banter. Now you suspect conversion? Lmao ok. | ||
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On June 27 2018 23:44 Vivax wrote: I didn't call regfan mafia for pretty much the same reasons you didn't Koshi. At the same time it isn't a tsunami of words a la noobking. Don't think Calix is mafia here but I will always lynch that if the majority thinks that so no point thinking too much about he alignment. HF is purely a wild guess. I think shockey is onto something with TT tho, nothing to do with his unlynchable shit for me though. Shockey with tick tock Hf is a wild guess Huh | ||
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On June 28 2018 06:50 Calix wrote: I'm spamming "lynch ShoCkeyy" because the current viable alternatives are myself (obvtown) and TT (another obvtown) and nobody seems to want you dead for some fucking reason and it's annoying me. Why do you need HF's consent to vote for me? Oh right, you know I'm town and you don't want to take the blame for putting me in the lead for votes. The last part, where is it at? Link me. | ||
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Post #12 in the voting thread Why did you vote vivax? | ||
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On June 28 2018 06:57 ShoCkeyy wrote: My scum reads were more towards TT, not Calix, Calix joined when I mentioned their name, started defending TT non stop, and still hasn't stopped saying I'm mafia... Like how much value is that really adding to the thread. It just seems super desperate. Since your filter is tol short You attacked Calix first, like most of your posts were calix x tt but you go against tt or focused more on him later. | ||
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On June 28 2018 06:59 Calix wrote: Why don't you read my filter and find out before asking me? You keep asking me all these random questions. They never seem to go anywhere or mean anything and I get the impression I could tell you to go fuck yourself and I'd get the same response from you. You haven't changed your read on me AT ALL because of these questions. I have zero idea how they help you read me better. So why should I bother? I also hate your TT vote. It'd be really nice if HF would vote for ShoCkeyy instead of letting this super obvious townie die. I am gonna vote for TT because I think he is mafia with you. Not rocket science there. | ||
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On June 28 2018 07:03 Calix wrote: So your questions are pointless then. Because you don't give a single fuck that I am not answering. That's pretty suspect TBH. Because that means you've been asking all these random questions without caring about the answers. One of your answers can change my mind, I am known for this if someone gave me a logical explenation. It I keep asking is because I care, if not I would be “lol no” actually. | ||
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Yeah i unvoted because I noticed someone I consider town might get lynched and I have expressed that feeling on this thread. So what? Is my change scummy somehow? | ||
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On June 28 2018 07:12 Mocsta wrote: #971 he is first vote on shockeyy.... anyways, fuck you all for ignoring me ##Vote; Shockeyy You know shockey has the same scum reads as you right? | ||
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On June 28 2018 07:19 Mocsta wrote: fuck it im probably never going ot catch up on this game now I will vote the unturned stone ##Vote: Koshi I dont particuarly care for the filter, and im concerned with the hammer vote Dude seriously, vote for your mafia reads. Or are you drunk? | ||
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It is like that scene of mean girls when Regina throwed a bunch of copies of the burn book and everyone went crazy. Regina being HF maybe for his undying love of bf | ||
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On June 28 2018 07:38 Calix wrote: Because he only has one vote on him whereas ShoCkeyy has like, 3 and TT has 4. So yeah, you are lynching TT right now. And I'm not moving my vote to Koshi when ShoCkeyy is right here! Yeah lynch TT? Your town read? | ||
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On June 28 2018 07:47 Mocsta wrote: hmmm. Filter dive rayn - Theres a couple odditities in his play, but maybe IRL shit. Like, I just dont think he can be that passionate against calix/regfan etc as mafia. Theres a lot of conviction in his posts that I think cannot be faked. Filter dive tictock - Im still not seeing why anyone thinks he is scum. I look at his wagon and see pretty much town (if you treat the shockeyy mafia stuff as a dumbtell) Koshi is probably a crap shoot. I prob more want to lynch him out of spite than I think he is mafia Calix i think is town. #1004 is just something i dont expect mafia to say, but i see town do it all the time. its just a genuine venting of frustration this leaves my voting block to shockeyy, boxer fred, vivax Will filter those guys now ##unvote Who knows, maybe this is a bizarre game where 2 of the scum team are AFK, and vivax is actually by himself lol Literally considering to vote you after this You read a shit ton of posts on 5 minutes and all your mafia reads are town now? | ||
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On June 28 2018 08:21 Calix wrote: Scummy "told you so" kind of post when you didn't even do anything. Ahahahahahahha what I didnt do? My vote was on tick tock and you did everything to save him, even following a dummy train that started out of nowhere. | ||
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On June 28 2018 08:30 Holyflare wrote: If you think ticktock is mafia copcake then you have to explain why as mafia he doesn't vote boxerfred or shockeyy to save himself until it's too late. I have explained he gave a 180 change of heart out of nowhere for calix when he was suspecting her HARD. You do NOT do that out of nowhere. | ||
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On June 28 2018 08:33 Holyflare wrote: This does not answer my question. Why does he let himself almost die as mafia? Why does he not vote to save himself? Ask him yourself, I would believe it was because he ess an ass to me and felt guilt. | ||
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On June 28 2018 08:38 Regfan wrote: HF, Cake, Rayn, Moscta and Calix are still all town, if you fuckwits can learn to come and work together this games still winnable. Hunt inside Vivax, Shockey, TT, GSM, Conversion and Koshi. TT did vote to save himself and at :59, timing that makes more sense for mafia to do it where there's minimal time for people to react to the vote and 5he way the EOD played out there's some worlds that he fits inside of as mafia, Vivax-TT is 100% a world people need to entertain and look inside of tomorrow. There's probably only ever 1 in Shockey/Vivax which is why Shockeys flip would have helped immensely but if you hit scum in these two would suggest moving the other to the side for a bit. Vivax / TT + 1 of Koshi/TSM sort of fits a few things. Okay you've got my thoughts albeit I've missed a lot of content from pages 30 to 50, now can feel better about leaving and never coming back to this game again. Oh and everyone that actually voted Boxer can go fuck themselves. Outtahere -R This guy here is town for noticing TT saving himself Where is your god now HF? | ||
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- I got told that TT was extremely frustrated and that is why he called me sheep sheep rayn hubby, that he was trying to do everything to save himself. - Then he is all “I am sorry cake I will peace out I am sorry - Calix did everything to save him, HF was like if TT dies he deserves it because he is not switching votes - Then BF is rip, get told that TT is town for not voting himself by HF - Regfan then comes and says that TT voted for someone else to vote himself, which the whole case of HF doesnt work anymore - HF calls regfan mafia for this and says TT would not know if he saved himself. He voted at the last minute, 59 seconds before end of the day, a whole minute, please he was lurking forever doing nothing Rip in peppers but no one will listen to me if anyone find tjis super odd | ||
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I think I am on my right since I got insulted several times during this game and I took everything cold hearted but this is just enough. Not smart talk, just a bunch of hyenas screaming with no content. | ||
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And I cant picture any other person to be mafia with him except me and it doesnt work because I am vanilla. So yeahhhhhhhh gl gl Gonna peace out and watch queer eye. | ||
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On June 28 2018 10:52 Tictock wrote: Cake, I called Calix mafia early on, and stuck with that read for a little while. I never tried to vote her, case her, or anything like that. I made an early read, talked about it, then as more posts came in began re-evaluating. I was totally upfront with you at the time that I made those "appeal to emotion" posts I did. I was blatantly and openly trying to convince someone I thought was town, that the lynch they were advocating was not a good one. For this you have obsitently called me mafia. Now I am willing to take HF's criticism that my posting style is probably to blame as it leaves me detached from the current happenings as I try to catchup. However my entire play this game, if you would be so kind as to evaluate it, has been to be as open as possible and try to suggest what I feel is the best course of action for town. You called me a sheep, me who was the first person who jumped to deffend you against HF 😑 Maybe I am a super bad player as Calix say but to ME: - You cant change reads super easily, you pushed someone and suddenly you want to change? Something like what Mocca did. I agreed with you that Mocca’s reads were SUPER BAD but if something got me more was your siper way to deffend Calix and your excuse was “because she is a good player like HF” | ||
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On June 28 2018 11:20 Mocsta wrote: Hi CopCake, Not sure about anyone trying to be town leader, but I am curious if you have updated thoughts on Rayn, in particular given there are several leaning scum on him. Apologies if you have addressed some of this already. What makes rayn mafia? Explain to me on a case because last I remember me and you had the same reads and suddenly in 5 min you changed your mind. | ||
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Last time he was mafia it was a rsoultin game, the drawing game in which I had a very difficult time with HF and many others (I bet you are not surprised) and I could feel rayn mafia but I wasnt 100% sure, Rayn made this huge “OMG I feel so insulted brb gonna be modkilled” and the host “cleared him” and HF also did so the rest of the game he afk’d forever and in this game he hasnt done that. In fact, he took the time to read my other games, he was probably not so sure about me because if I remember correctly I jumped on him and told him the whole meme case was dumb since it was a meme, deffended TT, etc (Wow I sheep rayn too much!) until he noticed that I had a meta (Which I never realized) and got a FACT to prove all of YOu that I am town. I never saw this as a pocketing because if he wanted to pocket me he would be all super buddy buddy but no, he was firm and like neutral towards me. He then did a case for Calix, he has been scumhunting and putting effort, his most “eh” post is when I said the only way he could be mafia is if Calix is town but that is it. | ||
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On June 28 2018 11:43 Mocsta wrote: Thanks, I'm glad that you mentioned the AFK, cos he did the same thing last time i played scum with him too. Popped in every so and so, and just AFK rest of cycle. He may have mentioned at one point it related to fatigue from rolling scum multiple times in a row, but meh, the impression lasted with me. (a bit like tictock). I suppose my only comment to above is that I dont know how much it means for him to read your other games BECAUSE of his personal connection with you. As mafia, he may subconsciously feel pressure to put some "science" behind the read; instead of saying, "gut feel". But i dont view this strongly, as it could equally apply to town not wanting to be "bamboozled". Also the way he injected into the thread I think was townish. So meh,. What do you make of the sudden change in the hydra? I assume you know at least of them? Is this behaviour plausible? Like, as scum, why would you kick up a hissy fit if you just got a mislynch on a lurker? I like regfan’s posts. I think Gemma overeacts a lot. | ||
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What I have problems it to clear Calix and TT. Calix wanted to kill an AFK, she said so when I asked her which were her mafia reads and it seems she had problems to lynch boxfred? I mean maybe is because shotkeys? Was her mafia read but I do think that if she felt firmly that shotkey was mafia she would try to convince people and give reasons why he is mafia and TT isnt. | ||
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My post of “Oh I am gonna get myself modkilled or replaced” was to see if I could get a reaction out of people because well, yeah I dont deserve that but I am not gonna play the victim because I know I am hard to follow. | ||
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On June 28 2018 12:05 Mocsta wrote: I can read through the dialogue with you/Calix if you would like, but my opinions right now are based on what you are stating. If calix is mafia, and said, lets kill an AFK.. then why hesistate against boxerfred? I dont see the benefit to drop this read AND then campaign to save tictock. If anything, thats pretty townie, instead of voting your possible scum read, protect your biggest town read. Even from a percentage point of view, its more likely to be right on a townread, then a scum read, no? I do think that Calix play is indicative of someone still recovering from early cases and votes against her. In particular, the saving townread thing I mentioned just above. As for TT, I will have to filter dive to understand what your specific issues with his play are. I can do this when I get back from KFC if you like. I have problems with this, I personally would go to lynch my mafia read and go to try to make others follow me, not make others follow me (or in this case with the help of HF) to help to vote for an AFK. If she wouldnt hesitated then I understand because that was her first position but when the time came and she got a gun to shot... she was like “Oh no I am doing this to save TT” It is like she hesitated because she knew boxerfred was town? Or her frustation came because shotkey wasnt being lynched? Either way I would have learned MORE if TT or even Shitjey would have been lynched, now I am here; stuck with ny same reads, confused because I see a lot of change of hearts. | ||
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Dont look at it that way, both of you are friends. The “omg you are making regfan cry” etc was super tasteless and uncalled for tho. | ||
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On June 28 2018 12:37 Mocsta wrote: in your eyes, why would mafia hesitate to vote a town boxerfred? especialy, if she already showed she was willing to vote an afk? mafia cant just keep voting mafia as for shotkey, im not sure, i will have to filter dive that. can do once i finished with the wicked wings. The end comes with an “omg i am sorry to vote for you boxerfred” the leading wagon was TT by faaaaaaaar | ||
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On June 28 2018 12:44 Mocsta wrote: i thought it had to do with regfan going for a run and talking about the good ol' days. nothing to do wityh gemma? seems odd beef here because even you are adding "super cheap" here etc Gemma is the one who did the ugly post. | ||
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On June 28 2018 20:07 Mocsta wrote: Lol so its totally legit im hung up on this And copcake is annoying about it because clearly biased Meh. If rayn was scum. I treat him as 3rd and just wont bother with it any further. Is rayn still your top read? What? | ||
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On June 28 2018 12:50 Mocsta wrote: nothign to do with gemma? i dunno how important this is.. so going to stop here could just be group beef outside game Gemma also posted something very tasteless, let me try to search for it. | ||
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On June 28 2018 01:58 Regfan wrote: Because it's fucking toxic, rayn made Regfan hate the game when he's trying to get back into mafia and find time to enjoy it again, I love Regfan and you have no idea how much that horseshit fucking pisses me off it's actually unbelievable how insensitive rayn and his girlfriend have been towards Reg. Not to mention half the players have just been insulting us for our playstyle. So yeah it's a shitty game. This is the post. | ||
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Yet someone hasnt come to tell me why he is mafia. | ||
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On June 28 2018 04:18 raynpelikoneet wrote: well this D1 is gonna end up on a town lynch most likely based on votes. Yeah this is it, I believed he was refering to Shockey | ||
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On June 28 2018 04:00 KelsierSC wrote: Day 1 Vote Count ShoCkeyy[3]:Calix,Ticktock,Vivax Calix[4]:Mocsta,raynpelikoneet,Koshi,CopCake TheSlenderMan[1]:TheSlenderMan Ticktock[3]:ShoCkeyy,Holyflare,Conversion boxerfred[1]:boxerfred Vivax[1]:Regfan Calix is currently the lynch. The deadline is Wednesday, Jun 27 10:59pm GMT (GMT+00:00) which is in . This is it Now time to dig. Because as far as I remember, Rayn called TT mafia DURING end of the day, not before so yeah. | ||
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On June 27 2018 01:58 raynpelikoneet wrote: I dont want to have anything to do with this game anymore. Calix is mafia. Vivax is mafia. Maybe Regfan is mafia, idk. Could be boxerfred, Slendy. Maybe 3% Holyflare. bye. This is odd | ||
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On June 28 2018 02:24 raynpelikoneet wrote: Holyflare, the hydra is not mafia. Calix is though. Make your pick. During the vote count before rayn said the result will be kn town lynched: - Had Vivax and Calix and Regfan as 100%mafia - Then said the hydra is not mafia for being too mafia - Next he said the result will end in town lynched because shockey has votes on him (the people who were on the lynch were shockey, calix and TT) - Rayn never called TT mafia, he started until later when the whole chaos started to happen. My conclusion is: Rayn said that town will be lynched was refering to TT and Shockey. | ||
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On June 28 2018 04:20 raynpelikoneet wrote: why are you so fucking incapable to make a decision? make a decision, dont ask useless shit from other ppl. Not calling TT mafia here | ||
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Here called TT town So yeah, TT was never a mafia read on rayn His focus was on Calix, single tunneled but took a jump of faith in hF with TT because Calix wasnt getting lynched. | ||
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On June 28 2018 22:47 Mocsta wrote: Im on phone Is there any supporting quotes that rayn tr tt at that point? Rayn told HF TT is town, I quoted later ^^ | ||
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On June 28 2018 22:50 Calix wrote: 100% incorrect. Rayn voted for TT when I still had 4 votes, thus putting TT and I at 3 votes each. If he hadn't swapped, I would have been in the lead. You're not even looking at the evidence when it comes to your rayn defense, lol. | ||
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Nice try Calix but the flow of rayn progression is clear and townie. Oohhhhh!!! And the thing discussed here was his post “town will get lynched anyways or it seems” something like that and it was refering to shockey and TT ^^ | ||
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On June 28 2018 22:50 Calix wrote: 100% incorrect. Rayn voted for TT when I still had 4 votes, thus putting TT and I at 3 votes each. If he hadn't swapped, I would have been in the lead. You're not even looking at the evidence when it comes to your rayn defense, lol. Also this doesnt matter, you and vivax only needed to vote for TT and rayn went for TT because his odd reaction and had the support of HF. It is not THAT hard. | ||
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You were saying Rayn is mafia because he said “town will end lynched “ and even made a case ^^ that his three suspects were already voting shokey (vivax,calix,tt) amd his other 2 too scum were also getting lynched (calix,tt) But this doesnt work because rayn never had :D TT as mafia, even confronted HF for this. Woooooooo!!!!! | ||
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On June 28 2018 22:24 Calix wrote: Rayn came in and asked "why does ShoCkeyy have votes?" At the time, ShoCkeyy had three votes. One vote was me (his top scum-read). One vote was Vivax (another one of rayn's scum-reads). The third vote was Tictock. Therefore it doesn't make sense for him to ask that question. Because the obvious answer from rayn's point of view is that mafia are trying to mislynch ShoCkeyy. When I asked him this, rayn just called me "super scummy" and never answered the question. If you reffer to this, his question pretty much is “why is shockeyy getting lynched” The obvious answer is because mafia was trying to getting him misslynched but the doubt is still on TT who he considered him town at that time. | ||
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On June 28 2018 22:19 Vivax wrote: The only TR he could have had was shockey, but he had just two votes iirc. And I reffer to this. The three people to be lynchef were: Calix TT Shockey And TT and Shockey were town. | ||
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On June 28 2018 22:18 Vivax wrote: What do you make of his EoD entrance? Someone also mentioned he said it was probably going to be a town lynch when two of his scumreads were being wagons. Like this post is a lie and very manipulative. | ||
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On June 28 2018 23:23 Vivax wrote: Didn't I add an iirc? I was working with my memory there And your view changed when I proved it was wrong or? | ||
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On June 28 2018 23:45 ShoCkeyy wrote: It's stupid, I don't get it, BF came back obviously as you saw... He could of easily joined, but Cilax last minute switched to BF for idk what... Apprently to save TT her townread, she would sacrifice everything for TT. | ||
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There is love there guys. Wooooooo!!! (Btw is an innocent joke, in case you use this to call me toxic) | ||
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On June 29 2018 00:00 Calix wrote: I defend my town-reads a lot when I am town. In my first game on this site, TT and I were both town. TT was the D1 lynch and I went out of my way to save him. But I failed. Then people called me mafia for "white-knighting TT". Think that was Haunted Mafia 3 or something. I also hard-defended Tumblewood against accusations in one of BTDT's Generic Mafia games. Just two examples off the top of my head. I could be quite a bitch and say “Meta doesnt matter” bitnto me, info like this is important since it helps me to understand the personality of the player. Thanks! I hope you know listen to people who have played with me about my characteristics and personality. | ||
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- I find quite annoying people is saying I am biased - I have questioned rayn, I mean I even asked him directly “what do you think i am, town or mafia” since it is one of my ways to deduce him. And for this, I became Calix number on scum in, what it is for me, a bad case with other points ofc that were bad. - Using language barrier as an excuse to not take me consideration or try to understand me. The only persons wjo have been nice to me are TT and Mocca, even HF which is surprising. I would say shotckey too but he is not that active and I havent interacted with conversion, etc. | ||
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On June 29 2018 00:23 raynpelikoneet wrote: What are you even talking about i am never shooting my mislynch in a million years as mafia. I was being sarcastic. There is no way Calix is getting killed because she is mafia. | ||
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On June 29 2018 00:25 Holyflare wrote: Because if you are town it's overwhelmingly likely that the people who gave a shit and were switching wagons are town over the people that did nothing and have static reads. I think your reads aren't changing based on all this new info and it looks really bad. What new info? Calix doing all this work to save TT? Last night was a fiasco, chaos, a disaster Regina George. You enjoyed your power and influence I assume. 😉 | ||
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I am trying to get your point of view because “”””””’maybe”””” you are town. | ||
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On June 29 2018 00:34 Calix wrote: I don't give a fuck about this NK stuff. It's just a distraction rayn's throwing around. He's probably just mafia at this point. Tell me a single interesting thing he's said or done since EOD. Tell me what he is doing aside from defending ShoCkeyy because of terrible dumb-tell analysis and calling me terrible/ mafia. I can't think of anything. His recent posts are just bluffing and bullshit night kill posts and hollow reads, reads that have barely changed despite all this new information from EOD. Why is he even posting? He just look like he wants to distract people and annoy HF with all this "my reads are way better than HF's" and "HF sucks at NKs" stuff. Mmmmmmmm | ||
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On June 29 2018 00:40 ShoCkeyy wrote: says the person who spammed "lynch Shockeyy" all day yesterday.... I think this might have solved the game Depending how the votes went and the reads, it is strange your oush wasnt that hard, specially against an inactive like boxerfriend. Why didnt mafia push? The real question is there And the only answer that comes to my mind is that you flip town and then we actually get REAL info and not PoE shit. | ||
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This fits for a HF/Calix/TT team Because if Calix or TT flipped, pretty sure it would be mafia, but if Shotkey flipped town it would look bad for them so they went for boxerfred. | ||
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Now I am gonna sit here and get a lot of shit comments of how I am biased. | ||
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And why pick boxerfread? Because since he hasnt posted, his vote would be on him. | ||
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There were 3 people to be lynched Calix Shotckey TT If any of these got lynched we would have learned A LOT of info. Why an inactive like boxerfred? Why not someone you consider scum? Calix? | ||
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On June 28 2018 08:17 Tubesock wrote: Final Day 1 Vote Count Tictock[3]: ShoCkeyy[4]: Calix[0]: boxerfred[5]:boxerfred, Holyflare Holyflare[0]: Regfan[0]: Koshi[0]: TheSlenderMan[1]:TheSlenderMan CopCake[0]: Vivax[0]: raynpelikoneet [0]: Boxerfred has been lynched. And said is funny that all the ideal mafia team voted for Tt instead to distribute the vote. Also just a friendly reminder that HF wants modkills :D and ai think Vivax too. | ||
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On June 29 2018 01:33 Calix wrote: You missed me yelling at people to lynch ShoCkeyy for almost the entirety of EOD, giving several reasons for him being mafia, convincing Vivax to vote for him, trying to convince Conversion to vote for him and only succeeding at the last fucking second, getting pissed off at Mocsta and TT for voting off ShoCkeyy for ??? reasons? Then I only voted for Boxerfred at the last second because I thought TT was going to die and I was not letting that happen. And you think I didn't try hard enough????????????????? REALLY? If your vote at the end of the day was on shockey he would have died ^^ the final count vote has him with 4. You prefered to lynch an inactive. | ||
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Can you do more reads? Ignore the others but do it for the sanity of the people who deserve your respect. | ||
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Can I send a msg to Slenderman to tell him the game started or is it against the rules? | ||
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Do you SERIOUSLY the THREE mafia went to vote you? Instead of being somewhere else and blend in? | ||
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You have played a lot of games here Tell me: Is HF this picky? Do you remember he called you mafia for using stroke on a setence? | ||
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On June 29 2018 01:38 Holyflare wrote: But it's stupid when if both slender and bf are town they are essentially free flips for me to not lynch. Even if one is mafia it's still stupid. It helps because is shockey is town it gives town info unlike lynching an inactive. If you HF wanted to lynch an inactive is because you believe the inactive was mafia or more mafia than shotkey. | ||
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On June 26 2018 22:46 Holyflare wrote: I think you're scummy and Vivax too since he created more discussion about the "pointless post" and made absolutely no conclusions on it. Regfan towny, mocsta looks not bad like last game, rayn also not bad. Cop I will never read anything other than confusing. Conversion is meh but I don't hate what he's said. No idea who else is in the game really so my reads are super weak. HF always said regfan was mafia but here he says he is town :D and when Calix had kinda some pressure on her calls her mafia. HF trying to blend in maybe? | ||
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On June 26 2018 22:53 Holyflare wrote: I think your original push on cop wasn't great and was pushed on really mediocre points too hard. I don't like how you kept it up while rayn was disproving it either. It feels like you're grumpy that you shouldn't be pushing copcake anymore rather than pleased it gets rid of a confusing person. You're more concerned with how you look than figuring out. Look at this, HF calling out Calix without actually calling her out. | ||
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Btw At what time the day starts? I have to focus on work now. | ||
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On June 28 2018 06:53 Holyflare wrote: I'd think you'd probably be mafia. Don't get any of the scum reads against calix tbh. So HF tell me if shockey was your scum read why did you preffer the Boxerfred lynch? I mean Calix (your super town read) and you could habe getting him lynched easily. | ||
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Slenderman, pls magically appear to save the day | ||
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I wont dissapoint you nor Stella! I feel the game is worth to play again T-T | ||
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On June 28 2018 03:23 ShoCkeyy wrote: I already said it earlier, he said he's "unlynchable" if he's claiming, then there's a 50/50 chance he's either other. I like those chances better, and if he flips mafia, then Cilax defense of him is pretty clear. Mmmmmm | ||
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I also bought his Vivax is town | ||
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On June 28 2018 03:15 Conversion wrote: Tictock why aren't you talking with me Shockeyy why do you scumread TT over Calix Mmmm | ||
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cake Koshi Rayn Shockey 93% town Conversion 85 town: Vivax Mafia in: Calix, TT, Mocca, HF ***** This is my bet, if I an right I gift myself korean creams ***** | ||
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On June 29 2018 08:00 KelsierSC wrote: Day 2 Vivax was killed. He was a Vanilla. Regfan was modkilled. He was a Vanilla. Day 2 Deadline: Saturday, Jun 30 10:59pm GMT (GMT+00:00) (). Use the voting thread and ensure your vote is formatted correctly Hey i know that song! I listen to vaporwave too. | ||
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On June 29 2018 08:01 Tictock wrote: No surprises there. Also love how Cake is just townreading anything that matches her PoV. But ofc, it is surprising how we even having the same thinking of calix/tt the one that ended up getting lynched was boxerfred. | ||
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On June 29 2018 11:30 raynpelikoneet wrote: I want to entertain Calix/Mocsta/Conversion later. I honestly haven't read much of what Mocsta has posted since he wanted to lynch Calix but i am not sure how much he actually wanted that in the end. Same thing about kitaman fooled me last game. I haven't read anything Conversion has posted. We will see that tonight. Mostca didnt want to lynch calix at the end, neither tt He arrived and voted shotckey, I confronted him and pretty much was “deal with it” He said he read calix and tt filters in what? 5 min? | ||
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On June 29 2018 11:36 raynpelikoneet wrote: idk i simply do not have time to parse that rn. yuou are wrong in TT thugh, he just isn't mafia. Do you think conversions last vote is the scummy thing or why is not HF or TT the other mafia? | ||
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The other people from my town circle are pretty inactive. | ||
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On June 29 2018 11:40 raynpelikoneet wrote: I need to go to work. Can't talk right now. I am simply treating HF as confirmed town since me, you or anyone isn't probably lynching him today or even tomorrow regardless of his alignment and now he should be confirmed by D4 so i am just gonna let him search for mafia until N3. I am voting him lol, I don't know how a town HF would start a wagon out of nowhere on bf. | ||
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On June 29 2018 11:41 raynpelikoneet wrote: Like TT is just town, he actually believes in what he says. Noone fakes shit like that when the argument in the first place is based on some complete bs thing that doesn't even make any sense. If TT was town then why didnt mafia lynch him? easy misslynch | ||
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On June 29 2018 11:45 raynpelikoneet wrote: I don't fucking care. It is very bs to say someone is mafia because of what other people did. It really is, because you cannot control what other people do and you do not always know what mafia thinks since you're not in their QT. No, if you are sure that TT and shotckey are town mafia could have easily misslynch. | ||
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On June 29 2018 11:52 Mocsta wrote: and if you must know i did want to lynch calix, i really thought it was a kitaman thing all over again. everyone shit on my calix points, in particular regfan whom input i valued. since then i have treated calix as town. Nope, you changed your mind like in 3 minutes on the end of the day when she was leading. | ||
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On June 28 2018 07:47 Mocsta wrote: hmmm. Filter dive rayn - Theres a couple odditities in his play, but maybe IRL shit. Like, I just dont think he can be that passionate against calix/regfan etc as mafia. Theres a lot of conviction in his posts that I think cannot be faked. Filter dive tictock - Im still not seeing why anyone thinks he is scum. I look at his wagon and see pretty much town (if you treat the shockeyy mafia stuff as a dumbtell) Koshi is probably a crap shoot. I prob more want to lynch him out of spite than I think he is mafia Calix i think is town. #1004 is just something i dont expect mafia to say, but i see town do it all the time. its just a genuine venting of frustration this leaves my voting block to shockeyy, boxer fred, vivax Will filter those guys now ##unvote Who knows, maybe this is a bizarre game where 2 of the scum team are AFK, and vivax is actually by himself lol You surely think Calix is mafia. | ||
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On June 27 2018 20:32 Mocsta wrote: ##Unvote I dunno if Calix is town, but I trust Regfan enough to relinquish my read. I would vote between Shockeyy and Koshi equally if Calix wont be wagon'd. Shockeyy cos that post shitting on town for being down each others throats is such a mafia style intro post. Koshi for reasons I mentioned prior. Will decide when i wake up. ciao. Sorry if I am "difficult" but then explain to me your vote on Boxerored and not Shockey if you think he is mafia? "REASONS" On June 29 2018 01:32 CopCake wrote: If this is it, then is funny how mafia put all his effort to lynch TT and not distribute the vote. This is quite interesting. It is difficult to me to imagine a town not voting for a mafia read but instead an afk person. | ||
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Oh, I am frustrated because I am like seriously trying to solve the game but if I ask is like "Bitch", "Stupid", "Biased", "Grammar problems" Not a fun at all game to play. The only way I would enjoy this is if Rayn and Slenderman are mafia and drink margaritas together somewhere in Finland while fooling me but that mental image looks distant. | ||
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On June 29 2018 12:33 Mocsta wrote: i didnt vote shockeyy because my strong town read rayn was so certain of shockeyy being town. heres a big tip why dont you go and put all this nice effort into conversion vote actions. like. yeah im mafia and the way to win is to cop this type of heat for lynch actions. this is so fuckn stupid. rayn and hf might want to gloat how they fuckn are nk this and that. well i will gloat as mafia, i simply do not put myself in positions to be scrutinised like this from wagons. i jsut dont, everything is meticulous in the filter for follow through. Conversion was on TT, last moment was on Shockey, gonna check his filter again to see if he ever mentioned him. The problem here is that you had a scum read, two scum reads on wagons. You got convinced on one, but the other one???? I am gonna start to type sorry in each post in case I piss off some for my questions. Sorry. | ||
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On June 27 2018 01:39 Conversion wrote: Actually it might be a tossup between him and ShoCkeyy for the worst entrances in this game why even post this Welp, this is his reason to vote him apparently. | ||
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On June 27 2018 02:07 Conversion wrote: I don't think either Vivax or Calix is mafia for all that's worth at this very exact moment in the game. Or if they was one, it'd be a 1/1 split. No way mafiateam Vivax and Calix randomly jump on Copcake like that.. no reward medium risk play. Rereading rayn/reg makes me solidified in not wanting to lynch them today. Rayn is probably town, reg I get a weird feeling from filter.. like they post a lot and bring a good logical standpoint on things but can't remember anything memorable coming from it? Hence why I wanted some other inputs, but doubt regfan should ever be lynched today, I suppose. Gun to my head, my lynch pool would be HF > Shock > Koshi, but things will change.. will dive Tictock some time later since lunch break is over Another one mentioning Shock "will dive on TT" Let's see where it leads. | ||
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On June 27 2018 02:08 Conversion wrote: also I don't like Tictock's continuous mention of how he is unlynchable this game. rubs me the wrong way There you have it. Conversion is so fucking town. His change of vote was to save Boxfred. GG. | ||
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What do you think of that? And if you agree that Conversion look more townie, who are the mafia besides Calix in your point of view? | ||
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On June 29 2018 12:52 Mocsta wrote: i think you should be considering with Conversion why he even has those opinions. Everything is just loose throw away comments that echo others "ohh, this person rubs me the wrong way" Heres one for you, do any of conversions opinions that you share come first? I suspect it does not. He wanted to kill his mafia reads, never a town. Unless you think TT and Shockey are both town idk how Conversion's pov doesn't work with yours since you also think Shockey is mafia. Conversion tried HARD to kill Shockey to save Boxerfred. | ||
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On June 29 2018 13:04 Mocsta wrote: Please listen carefully. Do you even understand why conversion has those reads.... The act of follow through is non-alignment indicative. Both mafia and town have reasons to do it. Its why and how that matters, and at least to me, its very much lacking with conversion. To me actions speak more than a thousand of walls of posts with fancy words. Words lie. Actions don't. The fact he tried to save boxer says a lot. He could have stayed and then be like "THIS IS SO STUPID BLA BLA BLA BLA" But he actually TRIED* Unless he tried to be like "this is so dumb bla bla" but as a mafia point of view, why just not pretend to afk and be back later? The action to me is what speaks he is town :/ Sorry. | ||
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On June 28 2018 07:36 Tubesock wrote: Day 1 Vote Count Tictock[4]: ShoCkeyy[2]: Calix[1]: boxerfred[2]:boxerfred, Holyflare Holyflare[0]: Regfan[0]: Koshi[1]: TheSlenderMan[1]:TheSlenderMan CopCake[0]: Vivax[1]: raynpelikoneet [1]:Tictock Tictock is currently the lynch. The deadline is Wednesday, Jun 27 10:59pm GMT (GMT+00:00) which is in . PM us if you see a mistake. On June 28 2018 08:17 Tubesock wrote: Final Day 1 Vote Count Tictock[3]: ShoCkeyy[4]: Calix[0]: boxerfred[5]:boxerfred, Holyflare Holyflare[0]: Regfan[0]: Koshi[0]: TheSlenderMan[1]:TheSlenderMan CopCake[0]: Vivax[0]: raynpelikoneet [0]: Boxerfred has been lynched. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/534884-chill-hop-mafia-vote-thread?page=3 So Calix and Vivax voted at the same time before end of the day to boxerored (2 min) Tick tock and conversion 1 minute before end of the day to Shockey If I think about it carefully, TT's numbers were 4, so if conversion stayed with him, it would be the same as Shockey. Both were mafia reads of Conversion's so it would work for him either way, then... In a world in which conversion is mafia... WHY THE MOVE? Is TT town and if he flipped town would clear a lot of things? Is TT mafia and apply the same? Why to take the risk of the move and be called out for it? I can see conversion being mafia is TT is mafia and his whole read of TT was just bluff and copy/budding people as you say. | ||
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On June 29 2018 14:02 Mocsta wrote: CopCake.. im giong to drop conversion. I feel like im trying to create linkages to suit my outcome, which probably means im wrong. BUT... what i will say is, going through conversion made me specifcally look through shockeyy because converision asks him at one point why tictock over calix. Im still going through the filter, but the stuff i was looking for... .man. that mofo is town as. just sweet and direct and with impact. so..im back to square-1. in my certainly-town world (Holyflare, rayn, CopCake) in my I-assume-to-be-town world (Shockeyy, conversion) in my prioritise-evaluation pile (Calix, tictock) in my No-fucknig-idea (koshi, Slender) ticktock has shifted to re-evalute because of shockeyy. Once i digest the content I will have a better idea of where i sit. Calix. i havent read much of what she was written she since had the copcake case. I think its time i stop giving her a free town read for reaction and read the content. meh.. in short, im a sheep this cycle. anwaysy, i will spoiler what i was writing about b4 just in case you think i was bullshitting. but its probably not relevant + Show Spoiler + actions do lie, especially when you are aware of the outcome before others. im going to summarise my perspective of what you are saying: Conversion position: Shock=TT >Vivax>Calix>Koshi via #517 Mildly amusing in between this (and note its to his scum-read about his scum-read) On June 26 2018 22:40 ShoCkeyy wrote: I go to dinner, sleep, get ready for work, get my day started, visit TL, see 13 pages, type this response, close TL, be back later to read walls of text T_T On June 27 2018 01:39 Conversion wrote: Actually it might be a tossup between him and ShoCkeyy for the worst entrances in this game why even post this On June 27 2018 22:21 Conversion wrote: Is this a manufactured dumb mechanics thing from Shock? I highly doubt a dude who has played mafia here before honestly thinks mafia getting 3 KP in one night is balanced. at all On June 27 2018 22:49 Calix wrote: [...] So I'm just going with ShoCkeyy/ Vivax/ ??? for my current scum reads. I'd like some thoughts on ShoCkeyy/ Calix from the rest of the thread please. On June 27 2018 22:59 Conversion wrote: I recall having the same frustrations with Shock making posts that never seemed town, and he ended up being town, in a game I played with him. I’ll metacheck that when I’m at a computer The voting block is deceiving because there are lots of errors in it & came about very infrequently. I will make the assumption that people were too lazy to count what the actuals were, and went off the host counts. Keep in mind Conversion position from above, and that prior to this he was trolling with a HF vote. On June 28 2018 01:14 Tictock wrote: ##Vote: ShoCkeyy On June 28 2018 01:18 Conversion wrote: ##Unvote ##Vote:Tictock On June 28 2018 02:59 ShoCkeyy wrote: ##Vote:Tictock At this point, surely Conversion has to be suspicious that his scum-reads are voting each other, which to his credit there is some "follow-through" On June 28 2018 03:15 Conversion wrote: Tictock why aren't you talking with me Shockeyy why do you scumread TT over Calix On June 28 2018 03:19 Conversion wrote: Let me reword that-- Shockeyy why do you want to lynch Tictock OVER Calix regardless if bother are scum or not? I feel like the general vibe that I felt from you was that Calix was your read On June 28 2018 08:17 Tubesock wrote: Final Day 1 Vote Count Tictock[3]: ShoCkeyy[4]: Calix[0]: boxerfred[5]:boxerfred, Holyflare Holyflare[0]: Regfan[0]: Koshi[0]: TheSlenderMan[1]:TheSlenderMan CopCake[0]: Vivax[0]: raynpelikoneet [0]: Boxerfred has been lynched. I dont know why you arent considering a world where boxerfred & shockeyy are town. imagine that, scum can choose whatever wagon they want without risk... You know that I live in the world that boxfred (confirmed) and shockey are town is right? I dont get why you are asking me something I have expressed a lot... If mafia could choose any wagon then TT, Calix, Shockey, Boxerfred are town. Since Vivax and Regfan died that leave: Cake Rayn Mocca Conversion Koshi HF Slenderman Who from here is mafia? | ||
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On June 29 2018 14:10 Mocsta wrote: #1561 i dont like this, whether i was still anti-conversion or not. the votes were so unpredictable at that point. (a) there was EoD wagons forming like boxer (b) the vote counts were rarely updated and had errors.. there was no certainty but i dont like this because you are insinuating that with 1 minute to spare there is enough time to reload the page, see the change, process what needs to happen to save whomeever, and then type the vote. thats a buttload, and then yuo have different internet speeds.. basically the 1min separate could be considered logging at the same time. the other factor is that philosophically, smoe ppl are just simply opposed to voting an afk lurker. town, perhaps because they wish it wouldnt happen to them; or morals or whatever scum, perhaps because they feel they will cop limelight they dont want, or whatever. like im not gonig to call someone scum because they didnt want to vote boxerfred, and definitely not because of something that happened 1min in sequence. where im getting it is that such a simple thing debunks that whole post.. im not really sure what the point was other than, here, rayn wants me off the island, now here is another plattter to choose. The problem here is that some people decided not to bote for their reads and vivax derped hard. The problem is also you not voting for shockey. I am sorry once again, but you dont voting dor your mafia read is strange. This come again with: Did you not want shockey lynched because it would clear me, rayn, etc or not? (If town) Would his death put a red light (if mafia) to Calix, yourself, etc. I cant believe people picked an afk over a read -____- | ||
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On June 29 2018 14:46 Mocsta wrote: i dont really know what else to say to you. it was a real issue to me that rayn got pissed at regfan, and im over it. im not the only one that voted boxerfred.. like, why arent you doing this to holyflare. I tried to vote all my reads before going to boxer.. like, i just dont get what your problem is. we just keep doing the same dance over and over again, im trying to talk to you in a different way and you are being a brick-wall about this. Ohhhh but when HF gets back he will have hell with me even if Rayn says HF is town. I know you are trying, and I liked your last post (the one saying calix is mafia) Now if those three are your last picks let me figure out how it works with the lynch or as a team and interacions during the day/night. | ||
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On June 29 2018 21:59 Mocsta wrote: Is there any similarity to hf with the last game he was scum? Like i suppose he hasnt been complete dog with a bome this gamr and im still surprised he dropped his scum read on me but thats about it on the negatives for me I only remember a town holyflare yes making mistakes but being super active, aggresive, etc. We “discussed” a lot but we were both town, therefore he thinks I am “confusing” Never forget my “the plays theory” and my “this doesnt clear someone” help us caught up gerip? Idk but well HF will say it was all by himself. | ||
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On June 29 2018 22:06 raynpelikoneet wrote: HF isn't as active as he used to be and "misses" stuff. It's obvious that anyone's townplay is different in case you only play like 2-3 hrs in a day compared to something like 10 hours. I know it quite well. But still he hasnt pushed, he is agressive (in a polite way, I mean, super strong but polite, like a cop) There is this thing on thks game where I complained of people being quite rude out of nowhere and I got surprised by HF. He said something like “The only one being like a hyena is Calix but if she is mafia, it is her work to be so” It looked like he was justifying but I didnt take it too much into consideration becuase “FEELS” | ||
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On June 29 2018 22:12 Mocsta wrote: What was the game I will try to have a read Having said that. I was looking through cc filter for the hf case she mentions and seen anlotbof stuff about tt emotiin appeals to save calix which i wasnt aware of. Tt makes more sense to me than hf. Esp with shockeyy points Calix/HF/TT is the team that makes sense if you are town. No other option. HF started the boxerfred wagon because ???? He suddenly read Calix as mafia. I mean, Calix it is like a mermaid who suddenly put a spell in all the people and everyone decided to vote boxerfred or shockey at the end. They went full boxerfred (I need to think how things would have ended if TT didnt had moved his vote and vivax) | ||
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On June 29 2018 22:15 Mocsta wrote: Hmmm. Why would scum hf choose boxerfred over shockeyy? Actually if shoxkeyy is onto bith buddies in calix and tt. Boxer is distancing himself from a scum all in Its a possibility Because if Shockey flips town (it would) his teamates Tt and Calix are done. | ||
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On June 29 2018 22:17 CopCake wrote: Calix/HF/TT is the team that makes sense if you are town. No other option. HF started the boxerfred wagon because ???? He suddenly read Calix as mafia. I mean, Calix it is like a mermaid who suddenly put a spell in all the people and everyone decided to vote boxerfred or shockey at the end. They went full boxerfred (I need to think how things would have ended if TT didnt had moved his vote and vivax) Read calix as town* derped there. | ||
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On June 28 2018 07:36 Tubesock wrote: Day 1 Vote Count Tictock[4]: ShoCkeyy[2]: Calix[1]: boxerfred[2]:boxerfred, Holyflare Holyflare[0]: Regfan[0]: Koshi[1]: TheSlenderMan[1]:TheSlenderMan CopCake[0]: Vivax[1]: raynpelikoneet [1]:Tictock Tictock is currently the lynch. The deadline is Wednesday, Jun 27 10:59pm GMT (GMT+00:00) which is in . PM us if you see a mistake. So from here, Boxerfread had two, with calix three. Mocca’s and vivax is what killed boxerfred. (Mostly vivax) There is no way for mafia to control vivax’s actions so assume that TT would be the nail? This is the confusin part, because from the boxerfred wagon there are at least two mafia or three. This is why I have a: Calix - HF - TT - Mocca But I am going to simplify and think they wouldnt have minded the shotckey kill and made TT to vote him to look townie? Idk 😐 | ||
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On June 29 2018 22:36 raynpelikoneet wrote: I have lynched myself to save Risen who i was sure is town. I have also fakeclaimed masons with you (and Oats) to save you. soo... it is not scummy. Bluffing is one thing. To go to everyone and say “pls save tt, vote shockey” is another thing. But maybe you are right, I did a shit ton of things to clear you this game. | ||
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On June 29 2018 22:38 raynpelikoneet wrote: I would like to also add that i once claimed to be a cop when i was a doc so i could doc holyflare and ensure we both live D2. He was mafia so oopsie... You looooooveeee HF D: | ||
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On June 29 2018 22:52 Mocsta wrote: Also.. if hf is mafia.. why cant he shoot rayn? This i dont get Because rayn is the principal suspect everyone wanted lynched :D The begining of the night after the lynch it was a hell to me. | ||
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“Vivax was on the right path, lets kill rayn” “You know, mafia can kill people to frame” “What a waste of a post” | ||
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On June 29 2018 22:58 raynpelikoneet wrote: It's okay he thinks i would medic dodge. I wouldn't. I would always shoot Holyflare. I would have killed slenderman Or koshi I already pocketed vivax so 😉 | ||
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On June 29 2018 23:01 raynpelikoneet wrote: I could actually believe you would, and then you would always be lynched D2. :D The move wouldnt work of me but it is what would have worked with them. Now I have a question. TT, he has ##shoot: self in the voting thread Does it mean he is a vig or is it common to do here? | ||
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On June 29 2018 23:10 raynpelikoneet wrote: He is joking. For once you should probably read the OP. I did, it says two blue roles. | ||
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I was right the whole game. | ||
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On June 29 2018 23:13 raynpelikoneet wrote: No it doesn't. It says there are two set ups One blue role or two blue roles | ||
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On June 28 2018 09:15 Calix wrote: So what is your conclusion? That TT, Calix and HF are the mafia team? Because if so, ahahahahaha. The irony | ||
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Clearing HF? | ||
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Everyone went silent suddenly. | ||
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The way he just changed his view, how the votes went, his use of appeal of emotion, using the excuse that I am biased and my arguments are wrong is what makes me believe he is mafia. It is true tho he is an excellent guy and listener. | ||
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On June 30 2018 00:52 TheSlenderMan wrote: Yo, forgot about the game again. Twice. Thanks rayn for the double heads-up! D: Will catch up after I've attended a party tonight. You are gonna be proud of me! Hiiiiii!!!! | ||
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On June 30 2018 00:57 Holyflare wrote: Calix wasn't near being lynched at eod though? She was, then you and TT got a change from the heart | ||
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On June 28 2018 04:00 KelsierSC wrote: Day 1 Vote Count ShoCkeyy[3]:Calix,Ticktock,Vivax Calix[4]:Mocsta,raynpelikoneet,Koshi,CopCake TheSlenderMan[1]:TheSlenderMan Ticktock[3]:ShoCkeyy,Holyflare,Conversion boxerfred[1]:boxerfred Vivax[1]:Regfan Calix is currently the lynch. The deadline is Wednesday, Jun 27 10:59pm GMT (GMT+00:00) which is in . | ||
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On June 30 2018 01:25 Holyflare wrote: For totally legitimate reasons? What were your reasons? | ||
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On June 29 2018 00:25 Holyflare wrote: Because if you are town it's overwhelmingly likely that the people who gave a shit and were switching wagons are town over the people that did nothing and have static reads. I think your reads aren't changing based on all this new info and it looks really bad. I want to know what is the new info from the lynch? inam dumb. | ||
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On June 28 2018 07:58 Holyflare wrote: All the votes on tt are shit but i don't care because he doesn't care to save himself. Vote bf to save tt. Like this is the worst post TT votes are bad but he deserves it but lets save him. If he assumee that all of the TT votes were mafia and he himself (HF) is town then why to ask mafia to unvote? | ||
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On June 30 2018 01:45 Holyflare wrote: If shockey is town then people were voting him off and that's bad. Boxerfred was a very bad lynch for information, even if he was town and many people had already expressed negative thoughts about the bf lynch. In my view, if I was shockeyy, I would overwhelmingly think the people switching from an ok town lynch on myself to a bad afk modkill to save tt are either mafia with tt or very likely town because they aren't afraid to look bad. Since tt did not vote to save himself until the very last minute I would assume he was town (as I have) and argue that the people saving tt by not voting shockeyy were quite townie compared to the people static afking on tt or even voting shockeyy at eod. The problem here is that, at the end of the day you said you won A LOT of info. Dont worry, I am filtering you to be fair. | ||
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On June 28 2018 08:13 Holyflare wrote: Rayn probably mafia Like after the lynch, this was your reaction. | ||
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On June 28 2018 08:25 Holyflare wrote: I think you guys are playing a different game. None of the people (maybe shockey) up for lynch were scummy in the slightest. Half the thread had made absolutely no comment on the leading wagons because they were afk or busy. Rayn had just started to become scummy amd regfan has discord chats outstanding. With me thinking the thread is such a shit show and a lot of townies up for lynch then instead of waiting two cycles and getting two potential modkills that could heavily swing this game badly we elminated a question mark that could have quite easily been mafia. We saved a guy that couldn't be bothered to save himself by voting confirmed town bf and is more than likely town because of it. Calix also voted to save tt and is extremely likely town. That means we have a shit tonne of info that almost all wagons yesterday were town. Mafia love these situations and are happy flitting between lynches and not making much sense. Rayn/cop/shockeyy (yeah if you wanted him lynched then you should have done more. Tough shit.) all look bad doing that. I'd probably add conversion here but that depends on shockey flip and conversion kind of looks ok too. I'm happy with vivax and even koshi. We have a lot of info Rayn is super mafia with cop and shockey I did it to save TT and Calix my town reads lol | ||
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On June 28 2018 01:59 Holyflare wrote: I could lynch you for this post to be honest. Not only do you exclaim to not even know who is up for lynch (it's TT and yourself) but then you full on defend TT for absolutely no reason when you don't even know if he has votes or the reason for lynching him. You then provide no alternative. Like this is perfect and pure. | ||
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On June 30 2018 01:58 Holyflare wrote: I didn't post this as a mafia team. I don't think you and rayn are ever mafia together. I just meant you all fit a profile of doing mafia things. This was also to raise morale of people complaining. If you are town, who is mafia and why? | ||
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On June 30 2018 01:42 Holyflare wrote: I don't remember :D Initially I thought calix was mafia but then she said something in a post about "oh great another person not working with me" which looked quite townie. Then I thought her defence of tt was really bad so I quizzed her and her response to pressure was really quite good (don't think I said this in the thread though). I think around that point I heavily scum read tt but the only reason I backed off was that he started thinking something about vivax that was similar to my thoughts on vivax. I don't like any of his actual posts though, there's quite a lot of misinformation. But I thought he was slightly townie. Then towards deadline I thought shockeyy was scummy and I can't remember why? Guess it was what calix was posting? Then he was actually responding to me and I got some townie glimmer from his filter. At this point rayn switched to tt to put him into a majority and I began super hedging and thinking it wasn't a great lynch and then just wanted to vote off bf. I still think tt's eod was largely townie motivated though. Just give a name | ||
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It is mafia’s work to fool people, to create chaos etc. If I was town and I get lynched good for it. It means I didnt do a good job deffending myself or persuading people. Also as someone mentioned, it is mafia’s work to be mean, to act normal, etc. Ughhh. Sorry, I dislike this, it is so unfair for the sake of the game. This comes from town. | ||
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Also sorry TT for being wrong but that is how it is. I think some people have stress or problems irl and cant take this. It is sad. | ||
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Do we end the game? | ||
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All these mental breakdown is not inspiring and it saddened me. | ||
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But he seemed like honest :/ | ||
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On June 30 2018 08:03 Holyflare wrote: copcake is very much like mocsta I feel they find a new thing to latch onto and push it but then forget all about it? What the fuck? WHAT the actual fuck? I fought fucking Oceaanssssss to deffend rayn and to give you fucking logic reason besides “I feel it” I fucking deffended conversion when everyone started to call him mafia, I have literally posted the vote count more times to the host to see the probabilities of “if someone moved this vote the ending would have been, the reason he didnt probably is” Are you seriously going to tell me that i am a sheep? Are you fucking serious? | ||
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Seriously, what a lack of respect. | ||
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Gonna afk for about 6 hrs or something. Sometimes I feel bad and I think I am not allowing members to habe fun for being like a chihuahua barking with her reads. Bye. | ||
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Calix, the same way you ask us to think in worlds in which you are town, I want you to think who are the mafia from the info you have from the past days. | ||
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On June 30 2018 19:17 Holyflare wrote: If they are in game PMs they should both be modkilled thanks. Please pm them individually. They live in the same city and the one who said who wanted to contact him was me? Ofc I didnt do it because someone said it was against the rules. | ||
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And Koshi are you saying I am mafia, right? | ||
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On June 30 2018 22:02 Koshi wrote: That makes 0 sense if Shockeyy is town. Conversion had 2 other scunreads which I already forgot. Conversion believed TT and Shockey were summy, both of them, he had his vote on TT and when he saw that boxerfred was getting lynched changed to shockey to see if he could save him. Therefore his anger for the BF misslynch, which I totally agree. I could have changed to Shockey but TT was always a mafia read with calix and I townread shockey. | ||
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On June 30 2018 22:12 Koshi wrote: I cba to wait so here is the inconsistency. CC claims Conversion is impossible mafia unless with TT. Yet hre next page is filled with reasoning why TT is mafia and she keeps saying conversion is 100% not mafia. Does not compute. Mafia agenda: - Clears conversion when TT flips because it is impossible conversion is mafia now. And TT was likely going to get lynched over convwrsion at that time. On top of that the entire analysis makes 0 sense and shouldnt be pushed at all. In a TvT lynch conversion can do w.e and then blame the bf wagon and look good doing it. You are putting words in my mouth Koshi, I never said conversion is mafia unless it is with TT. There I clearly said that Calix campaigned hard to save TT. Never said coversion. Conversion never tried to save TT, conversion tried to save BF. | ||
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On June 30 2018 22:51 Conversion wrote: With that said I’m still not moving off Calix unless the alternatives are lynching HF, Koshi, or Mocsta. I was thinking in all the alternative universes in which you could be mafia and why your change of vote. I said I can see you mafia if TT is mafia. That is the only universe. But it would be Conversion + TT + Someone else. But the fact I was thinking TT is mafia doesnt mean I think you were mafia, because the Calix + TT + HF + Mocsta is the one that makes more sense to me. | ||
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On June 30 2018 22:58 Mocsta wrote: Im so confused i cant even sheep Like the conversion vote is only scummy if shockee is town which fucks up all my pairings Actual Edit for my world i find it so hard to believe that copcake is town Voting tells me Shoxkee is town Concersion koshi holyflare is mafia I am not town? | ||
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Did you continue to read? | ||
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“The only universe Conversion is mafia is if TT mafia” based on his moves changing TT to Shockey. It makes sense because that way if ConversionMafia! Existed he could be saving TTmafia and get a town misslynch. But still it doesnt make sense because just the last minute vote and if Conversion was mafia and he knew shockey was town he would be doomed, and if shockey was mafia he killed a scum mate for nothing when he could have allowed a misslynch with boxerfred? Therefore conversion is town. | ||
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On June 30 2018 23:10 CopCake wrote: Like you are calling mafia because I said “The only universe Conversion is mafia is if TT mafia” based on his moves changing TT to Shockey. It makes sense because that way if ConversionMafia! Existed he could be saving TTmafia and get a town misslynch. But still it doesnt make sense because just the last minute vote and if Conversion was mafia and he knew shockey was town he would be doomed, and if shockey was mafia he killed a scum mate for nothing when he could have allowed a misslynch with boxerfred? Therefore conversion is town. I hope someone gets this post. Or if I explained myself correctly. | ||
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I cant see a mafia last minute voting shockey if they see that boxerfred is getting majority and there is no way mafia would know vivax voted last second. I am gonna re check that and see the order of the last 4 votes to be pretty and absolutly clear of that in case I am missing another possible universe. I feel like a clumsy dr. Strange. | ||
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On June 30 2018 23:23 Mocsta wrote: At least 3 of the 4 voters i bekieve is town I said my reasons. I cant help it yoy are so (personally) against it If you believe this then HF is mafia with this comment? | ||
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Could someone tell me who had been Calix reads? Besides me being mafia and TT being town. | ||
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On June 30 2018 23:28 Mocsta wrote: actually. The only benefit as sfum would be so he can shit on the boxerfred wagon. This ONLY is possible if shockee is town Ironically this is what convo has been doing though Yeah he is shitting on the boxerfred wagon and I support him on that. But conversion CANT be scum because as I said, he could have stayed his vote on TT (another town now) | ||
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On June 30 2018 23:31 Conversion wrote: Calix now thinks I am mafia over you and shockeyy is mafia team with me. Most likely what’s going to happen is that I’ll be lynched today and I’ll flip town and she’ll just push her last remaining “scumread” in shockeyy after rayn gets shot and town will lose Not gonna happen i will protect you. | ||
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On June 30 2018 23:32 Conversion wrote: like if I was mafia why wouldn’t I just sit back and vote Shockeyy and push him as hard as possible? That’d be the easiest way to guarantee a mislynch and distance myself away from any other mafia in a scum!conversion town!shockeyy world According to her, shockey is mafia. But if both of you were mafia, why to push your teamate? And if shockey is town and you are mafia and know it, the sudden change would make you super scummy after the town flip. And you are right, you always read scummy shockey and TT so when you saw shockey being getting the better wagon you could be like “ok lets go with this train” | ||
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Who do you want to lynch? | ||
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I will have to filter dive koshi. | ||
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On June 30 2018 23:10 CopCake wrote: Like you are calling mafia because I said “The only universe Conversion is mafia is if TT mafia” based on his moves changing TT to Shockey. It makes sense because that way if ConversionMafia! Existed he could be saving TTmafia and get a town misslynch. But still it doesnt make sense because just the last minute vote and if Conversion was mafia and he knew shockey was town he would be doomed, and if shockey was mafia he killed a scum mate for nothing when he could have allowed a misslynch with boxerfred? Therefore conversion is town. My world why conversion cant me mafia, with math and everything. | ||
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On July 01 2018 00:11 Calix wrote: Also I think Koshi is making waves. He could have easily lynched me and taken path of least resistance or simply agree with my ShoCkeyy read but he attacks CopCake and Conversion instead. Thoughts? I found him to be pretty nipticky focusing on just one post but I have to take in consideration he is on a vacation and could not read my progression. I need to see the betrayal post he did. | ||
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On July 01 2018 00:13 Conversion wrote: I’m going to be unavailable soon until 1 hour to 30 minutes before EoD, which is why I’m stating how this game is going to go aince we have Koshi and HF on me and apparently they can type by bashing their head against a keyboard and people won’t lynch them. Calix you’re being way too stubborn when I’m trying to work with you on alternative lynches and I’m listening to Cop and Mocsta, but if you’re just going to push me until the end of day 2, we can fight until one of us flips. Your unwillingness to work with me and just paint me red is not something that’s giving me confidence that you are town. ;-; I am up for a HF | ||
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Rayn Conversion Shockey The rest can fight, koshi fell for his nipticky post. | ||
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I mean, it could be 3 town on the lynch pool with TT, Shockey and Boxerfred. It doesn't matter who dies, it would look as if they tried to protect town (TT) and that would explain the shockey push they had but it didnt work. But that world only works if Mostca is mafia. I think there is somewhere that he called you mafia or just voted you because people ignored him, and over all people, he picked Shockey. I think mafia's intention was to kill you or misslynch you but not everyone read you mafia or at least two very vocal didnt (Rayn and me) and if you died and flipped town, that would clear us eventually really fast because the reason was that "you had shitty posts" for them to lynch you. No context at all. | ||
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On July 01 2018 05:18 Holyflare wrote: If copcake or mocsta (or anyone with me in their scum teams) can succinctly say why I am mafia that would be good thanks. I'm somehow one of the leading wagons with 0 words written about me. - You haven't done anything - I agree with your case of Motsca because he is one of my mafia reads, because the theory of the vote count fits pretty well, but even if motsca is mafia it doesn't clear you 100%. I need someone who had played with mafiaholyflare! to know if you are able to sacrifice a mate for the sake to win towncred. - Why did you just started to write cases when you felt the knife next to you? I have seen others doing cases with no knife. - When Rayn asked you "who are your reads?" you had absolutely no idea. It is strange, it is weird, I can't see a TownHF being like that, in the limbo. - I don't like how you changed your read on Calix. Why don't you look at her filter? It is terrible. Who are her scum reads? Me?, Rayn? killing inactives? whoever is inactive? I can see a townHF, there is a small alternative, that mafia took advantage of your silly BF wagon BUT, the fact you haven't raged at Calix for following you screams you are mafia to me. | ||
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On July 01 2018 05:33 Holyflare wrote: I did a lot day 1. I didn't have motivation day 2 to do anything. I'm busy and I don't want to commit to a read when I can't fully say I've pieced it together in my mind. That never makes me mafia. I always have a drive for the next mislynch. Of course I can bus a team mate to look good but I don't generally do it unless they are under suspicion and I want the credit. I don't need the credit and I cased him because his vote on me makes no sense. I just started to write cases now because I have you and mocsta putting me as the lead wagon with 0 content as to why I'm mafia. Mocsta especially called me town just a few posts before he voted me. When rayn asked me for my reads I was not comfortable with any of my reads. I thought tt and calix were pretty townie for eod but the more people kept disagreeing with me the more I sacrificed my own read for their uncertainty. Rayn especially telling me tt wasn't town was off putting. Me not reading throughly and people telling me I'm wrong is not a good combo. I still haven't read, I'm purely basing this off of mocsta's recent posting spree. I haven't read a single filter this game other than Mocsta's just now. Maybe her filter is bad. If it is why are you voting me and not calix? I'm going purely by her eod where she had no need to look bad voting bf to save tt as mafia if shockeyy is town. You think shockeyy is town so calix's eod should be quite townie to you. It's the same reasoning as "why would conversion switch to shockeyy" but you're not applying it to calix switching to bf. Shockey flipping town leads to lynch Calix next phase because there was no context on "why to lynch him" Shockey wasn't leading either, it was TT. On June 28 2018 07:36 Tubesock wrote: Day 1 Vote Count Tictock[4]: ShoCkeyy[2]: Calix[1]: boxerfred[2]:boxerfred, Holyflare Holyflare[0]: Regfan[0]: Koshi[1]: TheSlenderMan[1]:TheSlenderMan CopCake[0]: Vivax[1]: raynpelikoneet [1]:Tictock Tictock is currently the lynch. The deadline is Wednesday, Jun 27 10:59pm GMT (GMT+00:00) which is in . PM us if you see a mistake. On June 28 2018 08:17 Tubesock wrote: Final Day 1 Vote Count Tictock[3]: ShoCkeyy[4]: Calix[0]: boxerfred[5]:boxerfred, Holyflare Holyflare[0]: Regfan[0]: Koshi[0]: TheSlenderMan[1]:TheSlenderMan CopCake[0]: Vivax[0]: raynpelikoneet [0]: Boxerfred has been lynched. | ||
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On July 01 2018 05:35 Holyflare wrote: What do you mean by this? Am I imagining things or did Mocsta say in this game you didn't look townie and he wasn't sheeping your cases? Why is he sheeping you on me? I honestly started to ignore him after he called me obxiounshusifj whatever word. I have not problems lynching him tbh but I want you to scum hunt outside of him. | ||
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ShoCkeyy[3]: Calix[0]: boxerfred[4]:boxerfred, Holyflare Holyflare[0]: Regfan[0]: Koshi[0]: TheSlenderMan[1]:TheSlenderMan CopCake[0]: Vivax[0]: [B]raynpelikoneet [1]:Tictock This is how it would have looked the vote count. I think, @Conversion @Rayn check me this. TT would have been lynched, he would flip town and that would give you town credibility Calix. | ||
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On July 01 2018 05:54 Holyflare wrote: The only reason shockeyy was not lynched is because conversion decided to un scumread tt too late and tt didn't give a shit to save himself until last second and someone else did something. but shockey got two votes at the end. If you notice, the final is: [B]On June 28 2018 08:17 Tubesock wrote: Final Day 1 Vote Count Tictock[3]: ShoCkeyy[4]: Calix[0]: boxerfred[5]:boxerfred, Holyflare Holyflare[0]: Regfan[0]: Koshi[0]: TheSlenderMan[1]:TheSlenderMan CopCake[0]: Vivax[0]: raynpelikoneet [0]: Boxerfred has been lynched. Conversion didnt try to save Shockey, Shockey and TT were his scum reads. | ||
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Blue happened before pink. Now let's play this game. (3) Boxerfred would have had 3 votes HF, Mocsta,and BF (not counting Calix and Vivax for being last minute votes) (4) Ticktock would have 4 and be lynched: Conversion (previous vote), Shockey, Rayn, Cake (3) Shockey would have had 3: Calix (previous vote) Koshi and Regfan Then Calix changed her vote (4) Boxerfred: HF, Mocsta,BF, Calix (4) Ticktock would have 4 and be lynched: Conversion (previous vote), Shockey, Rayn, Cake (2) Shockey: Koshi and Regfan THIS specific MOVE of HERS would have KILLEDDDDDD TICKTOCK THIS MOVE Now ask yourself, was Calix trying to save TT? Then Vivax, probably for pressure o idk, decided to vote BF. Notice, Holyflare, that Calix neither someone else had control over Vivax's actions. So, Calix intentions was to Kill Ticktock, because switching her vote last minute would still kill ticktock but she would look "townier" with the whole "whoever got the more votes in the tie gets killed" Next move is Vivax's, who saved TT (5) Boxerfred: HF, Mocsta,and BF, Calix,Vivax (4) Ticktock: Conversion (previous vote), Shockey, Rayn, Cake (2) Shockey: Koshi and Regfan and then the moves of TT last minute, and ofc the fail attempt of Conversion trying to save an AFK. | ||
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On July 01 2018 06:16 ShoCkeyy wrote: Why need to go through the trouble of lynching two people who look like easy mislynches the following days? Knowing that boxerfred plays a pretty mean mafia game when he's actually active, it was an easy kill - I would have done it if I was mafia. And on your read for Mocsta, I can agree he does seem to vote who ever he saw last talked about in the thread. Also his random vote on me when he comes back, which I said earlier, is what had me teetering on him. Which is why I can give a consideration vote on Mocsta if needed. I don't think Calix saved me, Vivax saved me. Calix never tried to save you lol. | ||
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On July 01 2018 06:19 Holyflare wrote: So why on earth am I ever a consideration to be mafia? Also everyone on the bf wagon saved you because you were 1 vote away from dying. This is the problem, you THINK EVERYONE ON THE BF wagon is town. | ||
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On June 28 2018 07:36 Tubesock wrote: Day 1 Vote Count Tictock[4]: ShoCkeyy[2]: Calix[1]: boxerfred[2]:boxerfred, Holyflare Holyflare[0]: Regfan[0]: Koshi[1]: TheSlenderMan[1]:TheSlenderMan CopCake[0]: Vivax[1]: raynpelikoneet [1]:Tictock Tictock is currently the lynch. The deadline is Wednesday, Jun 27 10:59pm GMT (GMT+00:00) which is in . PM us if you see a mistake. Shockey had only two votes. | ||
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On July 01 2018 06:35 ShoCkeyy wrote: Hey Cop, I asked this in a different post, maybe you didn;t see but thoughts on Mocsta? Can lynch immediately. | ||
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On July 01 2018 06:36 Holyflare wrote: And like I said. It is wrong. Calix also told vivax to switch. Why are you trying to throw dirt in her direction and give vivax credit when it was calix instigating other people to switch. I need you to sit, and think as mafia. Hello, I am mafia, I know that TT is town, I know that Boxerfred is town, and I know shotckey is town (hypothetically) I have three wagons, all of them town, Idk if Vivax will follow me but just in case, I will move my vote from my "mafiaread" to an afk. that way TT dies anyways and I win towncred for doing "all in my power" to save him. If Vivax decides to follow me, BF dies, another townie! I don't know if you get it, but I am like 98% confident in the lynch pool of TT, BF and Shockey was town (the -2% is for Shockey) That is why many people are pissed that the afk died. Because it gave us NO INFO. If Shockey would have died, it would have made us go to his filter and look at everything he had said and look for those who accused him. So I don't think mafia's intention was to kill Shockey at all as I have pointed out. Ugh, is it so hard to understand my point or something? Like the ONLY UNIVERSE Calix and you are town is the one slender man, kochi and shockey are mafia or slender man, kochi and mostca | ||
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On July 01 2018 06:50 Conversion wrote: I’m on my way home but a question I had was did calix switching without Vivax actually save TT? I glimpsed cop discussing this and I remember vote analysis from my PoV not hosts (bc it was wrong) that she actually didnt Oh please elaborate it because I am only using the one of the mods. | ||
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On July 01 2018 07:52 Calix wrote: Missed the last bus so had to walk. Am wondering why CopCake and ShoCkeyy and Conversion are lynching Mocsta over me. I'll skim the thread and look at Mocsta case again in the meantime. Man, this is so mafia, I can move the vote for you if you want me. I mean, do you know why I am not voting you, right? Because you pretty much CRIED. And I have felt bad and horrible all game. - You call me stupid. - Then regfan too deep the coment of "everyone is busy" - Next, TT said I only follow my hubby path - Mostca called me things several times - Then, you are like appealing to everyone. So yeah. | ||
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Props to HF for being one of the few who actually understand if they get asked asked asked many times and actually being respectful. | ||
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On July 01 2018 08:05 Conversion wrote: can y'all just modkill slendy and get this game done with. dude didn't post or vote I support this | ||
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Making people feel bad for you to get a chance to survive, make others feel guilt, this is just too much to me. | ||
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Commiting Seppuku in the name of mental health. | ||
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On July 01 2018 08:10 Holyflare wrote: This is not a game relevant post. It also breaks the rules about out of thread communication. Plz modkill. If they dont modkill do you approve of having someone else modkilled? Like idec if you are mafia, I am just annoyed way too much to a person. | ||
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On July 01 2018 08:13 Calix wrote: Your insistence on bringing this stuff up in the thread is going from 'annoying' to 'legitimately scummy' since a mod-kill on town ends the game. But then again, if you're trying to turn the mod into a vigilante as mafia instead of just winning as mafia the normal way then you can go fuck yourself. So make of that what you will. This is cute and all but HF had been wanting to get modkilled since day 1 | ||
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If you are mafia Calix, I cant even with the bullshit you pulled up to make people feel bad. Jesuschrist. If you are not I am sorry and I am the worst person but I cant. | ||
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On July 01 2018 08:17 Holyflare wrote: didn't give a shit when I was asking for them before The problem is that I doubt slenderman, not that I have seen an slendy mafia before in my life but I am dissapointed he approved this playstyle. | ||
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On July 01 2018 08:19 Holyflare wrote: piss off Lets end the game by being modkilled, yes? | ||
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On July 01 2018 08:21 Holyflare wrote: don't modkill yourself, it's what they want But do you think I care if they win or not? I want it over. | ||
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The only universe rayn could be mafia is the one there are two blue roles btw. | ||
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On July 01 2018 11:11 raynpelikoneet wrote: Idk i dont see any case on mocsta after you said "lets kill calix". So there you go. Dont make the things look like something they arent. Once again you wanted to lynch someone and fucked off on someone else. Makes tons of sense. | ||
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This is probably the “I read Calix as mafia” one But for whatever reason started with motsca | ||
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Notice how Calix just appeared at the eotd Saying “modkill yourself or not so I know if I have to do work solving the game” Oh man pls kill me of this game mafia, literally save me and you dont see more of me until the end of the game. | ||
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On July 01 2018 11:25 Holyflare wrote: Have you got amnesia? You know exactly why I pushed mocsta. He voted for me after calling me town. I had my own reads of motsca, alligned with you. You know, my lynch pile was: Calix, HF, TT, motsca and I would not move from that. Now I am considering other universes, ahhhh God. | ||
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I am a role... | ||
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Are you blue or were bluffing? | ||
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On July 01 2018 11:36 Holyflare wrote: and I think you also PMd a guy in game to make him play which means you aren't mafia partners because he wouldn't post that in thread You know they live on the same city, right? | ||
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Mafia can fake the “oh I got roleblocked” shit on a fake vig shot. | ||
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On July 01 2018 11:39 Holyflare wrote: so? if they're mafia together then they just talk to each other But they didnt pm, idk. | ||
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On July 01 2018 11:52 Holyflare wrote: he's a nice guy though, he wouldn't stand up a mafia team just because he's busy Wished he played. | ||
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I am probably going to live one of those special moments if the left wins, it is as big almost as independence day, considering two of the runner ups gave water to kids with cancer instead of chemotherapy and the other one is a international criminal. There is just one good guy, the favorite ofc and the past couples of days have been wild saying the polls prefference is because of bots and that he will make us like Rusia and Cuba. | ||
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On July 02 2018 08:24 Holyflare wrote: And I think slenderman and copcake are absolutely terrible fake checks to make lol Wait, this is true | ||
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But I think is stupid to claim rn as mafia because i “claimed” something and mafia would be wary... or who knows I mean mafia should know the set up because if there are two blues then they got a rb | ||
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I would say that “mafia could not send a kill” but is stupid because the game is also end game and the doctor claim then is legit. | ||
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And you are confident slenderman is the mafia. | ||
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We lynch slenderman, and if he is town, tomorrow you lynh me and i am town... | ||
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On July 02 2018 13:29 ShoCkeyy wrote: Those "checks" are idiotic, If I were cop, I would of checked my first suspicion, you and tictock easily. It's like a blank statement trying to fish for responses... Can't even link post to where she crumbled, but Koshi immediately did. So now Calix is waiting for rayn confirmation that you might have fake claimed? In all honesty, Hf vs Calix is a situation I see most likely happening as well Conversion. If HF was vig, why not shoot calix as he did claim? Then you have copcake also trying to claim some type of role here. Like this all just makes it extremely confusing to even lynch some one... in all honesty if rayn claims too, which I know he crumbled as well, I will go mad. I'm not staying around any longer, this has been frustrating since the game started. I have a very important meeting tomorrow morning. GN. Rayn sometimes fake claims and I “claimed” or do “what ifs” if I see an opportunity to see info or get a reaction. Either way I am happy with the result of Mexico’s wlwcgion so I am pretty much out. Gn. | ||
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On July 02 2018 20:45 Conversion wrote: I just can’t wrap my head around parity cop checking two question marks instead of a confirmed + a question mark. Just makes no sense. Your cop/slender check does nothing for us but give us a coinflip and I seriously doubt town would be confident enough to advocate the coinflip this hard This | ||
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On July 02 2018 21:09 Conversion wrote: anyways I’m heading out to work now. I will not mvoe my vote unless we’re lynching Koshi cause I believe rayn over him Welp, this is weird, Rayn hasnt cc Koshi | ||
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Probability of being reading w/w interaction? | ||
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Part of me believes in Calix Part of me asks herself why she checked slenderman, why not rayn or HF or Shockey. Question Can parity cop check with dead people? Like lets say she picked me on day 1 and tt or regfan who got modkilled and are knew to be town can be picked for day 2? That way the comparation would be like if regfan is known town and i picked slenderman and got a different aligment that means slenderman is mafia. | ||
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Like her “keep me alive” fits specially with the whole “town will regret it” but the pick of slenderman is super odd. | ||
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On June 30 2018 07:47 Calix wrote: Then stop playing if this game is such a huge waste of your time instead of telling us about it. I'm also going to throw up the possibility of Koshi/ Slenderman being two of the mafia. That might explain why people are having such a hard time finding scum-reads and keep pushing obvious townies instead. Because there's only one mafia to be found and since their scum-buddies aren't under any pressure, they can say whatever the fuck they want. I know people will say "lol Calix is focusing on inactives so she doesn't get lynched" but it's actually a valid world that people should consider at the very least. Well, the part about "town eating itself alive" anyway. Obviously it's not a world I 100% believe in (since I'm voting for you and think you/ ShoCkeyy/ Mocsta are scummy) but it's something I've been considering. You think this idea holds any water? With this post, I might believe in Calix. | ||
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On June 30 2018 09:17 Calix wrote: Friendly reminder that we've lost a lynch because of mod-kills. In other words, if you people are serious about lynching me, you're going straight into Day 3 triple LYLO. My advice to you, if you are town and think I am mafia, is to think really long and hard about worlds where I am town and start doing that NOW. Because that is what I am. Don't take the piss. Don't mock me and say "100% mafia" and say your reads are too good to revisit before flips. Just do it. You'll need all the time you can get with that "Calix is town" information because once you fuck up with me, you'll never get that opportunity again. This was the post I was looking for. | ||
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Like the moment I was about to be lunched I would have screamed I am a blue role lol And i would be telling HF he is mafia the very same moment he told me i am not parity cop because I know it is true and only a mafia would have reacted like that. That is why I was asking if it was w/w Because like I said before, if slenderman flips town, town will lynch me inmediatly next day. It is also odd that slenderman is considered the mafia and I am the town in this scenario. | ||
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On July 03 2018 04:44 Calix wrote: My personal belief is that rayn fake-claimed but is town, and that Koshi is the doctor. The only 'strong' evidence I have for you is that if Koshi is town, then he MUST have saved rayn, yes? I'll explain a scenario where doc!Koshi 'saves' mafia!rayn and show you why it doesn't make much sense: It's possible mafia!rayn fake-claims medic and then no-shoots. But mafia!rayn would HAVE to know a real doctor was in the game (since there are always two blues with me around). So if mafia!rayn decided to no shoot with that information then he has no idea who the real doctor is going to save or whether a vigilante would shoot on N2 or anything like that. He has no real incentive to no-shoot. Basically the mafia!Koshi and mafia!rayn scenarios are TECHNICALLY possible but also make no sense. Thus I conclude both are town. If you disagree, please find my mafia!Koshi post and mafia!rayn post and tell me how my logic is wrong, please. This is very speculative so I may have missed a scenario. But I think what I say makes sense. Mafia koshi and Mafia rayn doesnt work i think because theu are forced to shot no? And in that case it is just one blue role (which is yours) | ||
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If rayn fake claimed doctor and koshi protected him and there were no dead people they are both town. No way in hell mafia would avoid a kill, and they MUST have tried to kill rayn or someone else, specially if they are close to win. | ||
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I claimed “something” Mafia role blocked rayn but failed because rayn is vanilla? And the reason they didnt block “HF” is because he would kill Calix? Either way it is smarter to block rayn and kill him because that would be a 100% thing working. | ||
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If HF and Calix are mafia together, it is excellent to fake claim parity cop (no offense Calix) Because they only need to misslynch and it is game over. And they are the two who wanted to be lynched. Like this is a very difficult position. | ||
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On July 03 2018 04:56 Calix wrote: CopCake very clearly gives a fuck about doing stuff and solving the game. Slenderman doesn't. This is a heuristic (I could be underestimating CopCake's mafia game and her play isn't super-townie) but it's accurate enough that I'm willing to roll with it. Oh As mafia I am excellent. As town not so much, I am paranoid. | ||
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I made slenderman have a melt down. | ||
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The problem is that I can see Slenderman to give a fuck if he was mafia. | ||
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That way I can find mafia :D | ||
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On July 03 2018 05:06 Calix wrote: Did anyone ever comment on this post by the way? I don't think they did. Now that you know there's a mafia between Slenderman and CopCake (or me if you think I'm lying), thoughts? Wait, slenderman posted? I believed he only posted the thanks rayn for telling me the game was here lol | ||
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On July 03 2018 05:06 Calix wrote: Did anyone ever comment on this post by the way? I don't think they did. Now that you know there's a mafia between Slenderman and CopCake (or me if you think I'm lying), thoughts? I love you slenderman T-T After this post I claim that Slenderman is NOT Mafia. | ||
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He could have just said “Oh I have played games with her” need to consider if he was pocketing but still ToT <3 | ||
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On July 03 2018 05:08 Holyflare wrote: If we want to believe calix then it is objectively the best play to lynch copcake until slender posts once and then vote him. If he is mafia he is modkilled and if he is town we kill mafia copcake. He wasnt modkilled before Why would he be modkilled here? | ||
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I am thinking!!!!! It is the first time I am facing a mafia slenderman and i have to think, it is a fiasco if he was mafia and I never got the opportunity to fight him. | ||
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The best thing is to wait for rayn. He has played with mafiaslendy! Before. And I am confident rayn is 100% town after the doct thing with koshi. Like I said, there is no way mafia would lose the opportunity to win the game. | ||
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He didnt mention them but had time to talk about conversion!!!! Of all people. And the dead people. | ||
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Slenderman knows me, and rayn knows slenderman well But to be fair, if I was mafia, rayn would have caught it up inmediatly. | ||
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Mafia calix can fake claim for self persevation but the lynch pile tbh was either her or HF. My question for if calix and hf could be w/w is because they both being on the lynch options. Or could be Calix alone and self preservation. Or HF alone and pissed slenderman got found Or both town and HF confused as fuck like the rest of us | ||
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Why dont you buy her claim or play with the idea? Is it self preservation? If Calix is mafia, who is the rest of the scum team? | ||
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On July 03 2018 07:19 raynpelikoneet wrote: Conversion, mafia never ever no-shoots last night. Like literally never, even if i was mafia it never happens. I agree with this | ||
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On July 03 2018 07:26 ShoCkeyy wrote: Calix voting Slenderman because he has a self vote? Just like D1 to vote town boxerfred... Rayn you think HF would bus his partner if true? I can definitely see a HF/Calix/? team here. I followed HF d2 push against mocsta, along side Calix who also had her "suspicions" on him, and I'm an idiot for "pretending Calix is town". Don't be fooled for that CopCake, again... Oh shit I never think of this. | ||
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On July 03 2018 07:36 Holyflare wrote: I'll be real. I think CopCake's play this game seems very feigned. I'm used to her being similar but in a directed way where she channels her focus into something but this game is very much hop on the most opportune thing that's currently being talked about until she forgets all about it. Lol am I mafia now? | ||
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And the other people are way better versed in speaking english than me? I mean, Calix picked an afk and a person who speaks portuguese as her cop checks. | ||
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On July 03 2018 07:50 Holyflare wrote: So I abused it as mafia to try and get my mafia partner lynched for absolutely no reason other than I fucking hate lurkers and shit mechanics that prevent them dying. But what if slenderman is town? 🤔 and you know it? | ||
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On July 03 2018 07:52 Calix wrote: Going to go off-topic for a hot second. You're Portuguese? Do you and rayn actually live together IRL or is it one of those online relationships? I'm just curious. Don't feel like you have to answer this question if you don't want to ^^ We have been several times together irl. Next time is on december! | ||
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We should post cute pics to make the thread/game happy? | ||
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No way in hell mafia misses that If you are town the only teams are: Slenderman/hf/shockey Slenderman/hf/conversion Slenderman/shockey/conversion | ||
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If there are two roles, mafia knows that, right? Because there is a blocker. But if there is just one role, town doesnt know it so it is hard to have a cc than with two. No one is cc you. Mafia would have jumped and cc you now. | ||
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On July 03 2018 08:17 Holyflare wrote: I'd rather just be done with the game if you're town and nobody wants to vote no lynch even though we should. I've given plenty of reasons why slenderman is probably town too. So I am confirmed mafia then? | ||
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Someone alive? | ||
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Are you sure Calix is not mafia? 100% sure? I am thinking with a cold head and the way HF reacted to her claim was pretty strange, like if you think Calix is mafia then HF is town. Unless it is w/w violence, I mean it can be justified because either one of them were to be lynched. | ||
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It doesnt matter which part of the world you are (unless maybe Africa) there is always a 7/11 - lidl? - oxxo and the kind that sell burritos. And burritos is the food of happiness 🌯 | ||
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What kind of blasphemy is that? It sounds like a sushi taco. | ||
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Also annoying eotd if no one will come | ||
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In fact most of it for the world cup. | ||
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I am on a phone 👀 | ||
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The only European Country I support it is Sweden for obvious reasons 👀 | ||
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On July 04 2018 07:13 Calix wrote: If I die the next day then the game ends the same way so I am indifferent to who dies. I didnt get this | ||
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On July 04 2018 08:06 raynpelikoneet wrote: I was real medic i am conceding for the town here. Why did u allow koshi to fake claim then? | ||
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I feel so much shame | ||
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On July 04 2018 08:19 raynpelikoneet wrote: Because Koshi made a good play, regardless of his alignment. I healed myself N2. Doesnt make sense, mafia would have role blocked ypu. | ||
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There was no kill because absent mafia didnt send a kill | ||
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Holy shit | ||
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I still think I shouldnt play lol I mean I would be ok if this was the end game but I got called many things during the game that is pretty much shhhhhh and the so many modkills also doesnt help. | ||
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On July 04 2018 08:32 Mocsta wrote: wow... i think this game was a great learning lesson. im still shocked by the outcome. I am so sorry!!!! I was thinking you were scum like forever but i am paranoid with people being nice to me, i think they try to use “appeal to emotion” | ||
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On July 04 2018 09:00 TheSlenderMan wrote: rayn: ok. Because I simply couldn't. I shouldn't have signed up but I didn't know beforehand that my last week would go as horribly as it did. It was dumb luck, not a grade-B mafia scheme, that I didn't get modkilled during D2. There was a couple of times during D3 where, as Town, I could've risked my neck making short, uninformed posts, despite being woefully out of loop. But I had my team to think about here and ended up getting overwhelmed by the sheer amount of catching up that needed to be done. (When added together I probably had a total of 2,5hours for the whole of D3.) Contrary to what HF thought, I didn't "read a PM" by rayn, it was a real life reminder. I'm not a regular at this site. I would've made a post about the reminder out of habit, regardless of my affiliation (and rayn's), but I do realize now that it wasn't good to muddy the game by making a comment like that, regardless of the details. I still don't know what exactly happened in this game with all the modkills. But on behalf of my own inactivity, I want to apologize one more time for any additional "vitriol" that may have been caused by it. I'm used to being the one complaining about inactivity so it annoys me a great deal that this was a no-game on my part. Also sad that things went sour, in general, as the line-up looked really fun. I would also like to say that please don't blame the hosts for the inactivity-rule here. It gets tricky trying to make the rule at the same time more effective and more specific. Every single rule is going to find an exception to it. Do you remember all those games in which i tinfoiled and called you mafia? Haha Now when it happened i didnt do it <~< | ||
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I think you need to know that “in game” and “outside gane” are different things. I found Calix to be really enjoyable in the off topic convos that were happening. And I dont felt that offended, like in my persona, it just made me wondered if I should play because I made people feel bad. Which is never my intention ofc. I am super cute normaly >~< as in normal convos. We should just do voice mafia where people act nicer because voice and all. | ||
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One of the things that made me believe he was town is because how pasive he was <~< considering how aggresive he was in the drawing game. | ||
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