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Aotearoa39261 Posts
After his success at IEM, I got a moment to sit down and talk with mouz.MorroW. Undoubtedly, he is one of the greatest Terran players around at the moment and is a member of the prestigious mousesports team. This isn't the first time I've had the privilege of collaborating with mouz.MorroW, he shared a number of his views on the direction of SC2 which we turned into "Filling the Void". Unlike many players, mouz.MorroW is not one to shy away from an issue, he gives some of the most direct answers of any gamer and I hope you can respect him for that.
TeamLiquid: Hi MorroW, thanks for stopping by for an interview! Can you introduce yourself for anyone who doesn't know who you are. mouz.MorroW My name is Stefan Andersson. I'm 18 years old been playing sc1 and switched to sc2. I play Terran, and I like to build reapers. My goals and expectations have been very high in this game, right since the start of the Beta. If you want to know more go to Liquipedia on teamliquid.net search for "morrow".
TeamLiquid: how did you find the tournament environment at IEM? mouz.MorroW Absolutely amazing, everyone was nice. Players were talking to each other a lot, watching each other practice. There were lots of fans were there who wanted autographs. Lots of admins who were interested in the game and doing their best to give the players best experience. So yea it was an absolutely amazing week there in Cologne.
TeamLiquid: How did you feel about playing in group C compared to other groups? mouz.MorroW: My group was actually really easy compared to the other groups. Huk is an amazing player but it was his first lan. Tarson, I pretty much know his playstyle and know usually beat in TvT. And Artosis is too heavily crippled by the imbalance, so my group was not too difficult. Streloks group (Group D) was the hardest one in my opinion.
MorroW during his series against Dimaga - picture credit: diejule TeamLiquid: You tried more economical games against Tarson, and in the first few matches in your series against TLO. Any thoughts on why that just wasn't clicking at IEM? mouz.MorroW: They just play abusive and do these blind counters. I did my more economical style in all online tournaments and utterly destroyed everyone, it had to stop sometime. Obviously I'm not going to stop the build cause its really good. But it's just like most builds, it has it's hard counters. After I realized on this is not going to work, I switched to one base play. I wasn't too sad about playing one base because I know my TvT is more solid than others anyway, but so much practice goes down into my fast expand builds that I want to see if they work in tournaments. I did it twice vs Tarson just to make sure. Arguably really stupid of me to do that, but I was qualified anyway so I ir was worth it since I felt it gave me a lot of information about the matchup.
TeamLiquid: Do you think that FE builds will become standard over time, or that these more aggressive builds will stay the norm? mouz.MorroW: I think these blind counters will exist just like in sc1; bbs in the middle countered a fast hatch by zerg but still fast hatch is the standard. You will always have this concept in RTS games. But in sc2 there is more room for these early aggressive plays compared to sc1 where there were many builds that were based on two base timings rather than one base. But yes I think its going to stay similar to how it is now, at least as far as the Terran matchup goes. Although, I'm fast expanding in most of my games with great success, even during the beta.
TeamLiquid: I suppose that makes you a more well rounded player, since you're playing many more midgame situations than the one base play mouz.MorroW Yes I've definitely had tons and tons of more experience than most in the later stages of the game. Bio mech, bc, you name it. Many see me for this one base player now after IEM but most of my games are really just economical games.
TeamLiquid: Do you think that your experience contributed much to defeating TLO in the quarter finals? mouz.MorroW: Well the key to beating TLO was pretty much same to most Terrans: dont die or lose tons of scvs early game, and I will win because of my better mechanics and greater experience.
TeamLiquid: So essentially, the IdrA philosophy? mouz.MorroW Yes exactly: play safe even if they might be able to abuse it a little. But its no problem if your slightly behind in TvT. Not bashing on TLO though; its his worst mu and we all know he's hasn't been Terran forever, so he played really well given the circumstances.
TeamLiquid: Arguably, the series against Dimaga was the closest of the whole tournament. Any particular game in that series that you remember the most? mouz.MorroW: Well I think Blistering Sands was probably the best game, but he got really lucky twice with his hatch - I should have won that. After that I went crippled into the midgame and still its arguable that I could have won. After that game I felt I'm either better player or the matchup is imbalanced - or both. It gave me an extra boost to keep fighting. But I remember the last game, perfect example of the strength of the reaper on Metalopolis.
The delta game was just one sided because my banshees didn't really do damage. I didnt play so well that game, compared to the others. But yeah, that's what I remember the most from the Dimaga series. It was very close and it could have gone either way. He's an amazing player but I don't think we should blame imbalance for my win against him.
TeamLiquid: What makes Dimaga such a dangerous player? mouz.MorroW: Well its mostly just his decisions of when to strike. Many zerg players attack into sieged tanks or into a bad tunnel of terrain. But Dimaga is one of the few Zergs who wait for the right moment to attack with right flank. The micro itself isn't that important in sc2, but the timing on the attack and the positioning before the battle is.
TeamLiquid: You and Dimaga played quite a bit during the beta as well correct? mouz.MorroW: Yes we did. We played a lot of Desert Oasis together. Because of that, it kinda gives me a nightmare whenever I see his name just because of the past. Seriously I've lost some brutal games to him, with him utterly destroying me. Because of that, I felt so afraid of him in this tournament. He was the player I least wanted to go up against. According to the odds, I might have had better chance against him in IEM than Idra, but I honestly don't know if that was true.
MorroW hard at work - picture credit: gosugamers.net TeamLiquid: So you practised after the semifinals against Dimaga for IdrA, is that when the 5rax reaper was perfected? mouz.MorroW: I had the solid ground for the play style, just like any other top Terran, but me and Dimaga sort of formed a pact without talking about it. It kind of became like that because he was up for 3rd place against a Terran, and me against a Zerg in finals. So he told me a bit more in detail and we discussed the build just so he could have the best possible practice to face Tarson while I simply got better preparation for IdrA. I also played with other zergs as well before the games, of course.
TeamLiquid: There's been an incredible amount of whining about the build on TL, what are your thoughts on it? mouz.MorroW: It gives u map control, map presence, pressure, harass, game control, economy lead and even a decent chance of winning most games solely based on reapers or 1base timings. Its the best tvz build I've seen and it works on most maps. I don't think the Zergs have reached their potential to stop it though, so it might not be AS bad as people think after seeing some beat downs with it. But at the end of the day even if Terran doesn’t win with it they usually end up ahead anyway.
I think its fair to say its imbalanced but I don't think its fair to blame a tournament loss on it because imbalance might only be revealed over thousands of games, not a bo5 finals. Both me and IdrA played nowhere near perfect - nobody can on a stage like that. But since IdrA goes high on money and energy on queen because of some pressure, I wouldn't say that because IdrA died to it, it its imba, because he didn't play any more impressive than any other Zergs. At the same time, my reaper micro was not any more impressive than lets say TLO or demuslims.
So just because you have 2 very skilled players with good reputation in a finals doesn't mean "if idra cant defend it then nobody can". A wise man once said, lans are more about who makes least mistakes rather than who plays better.
Victorious at IEM - picture credit: diejule TeamLiquid: What was it like going up against IdrA? mouz.MorroW: I felt very confident after beating dimaga. The confidence I got from that made me sure of beating idra. And even if I couldn't beat him, it wouldn’t create a huge upset so I could play a more free game since I didn't have anything to lose. So my mind state was probably a lot more healthy than his, especially after dropping so many games to, from IdrA's perspective, lesser Terrans.
TeamLiquid: Did you have anything special planned for game 5? mouz.MorroW: I didnt even expect a 4th game, to be honest with you. The Metalopolis game was a lot closer than it looked and i should have won that one. Metalopolis is an insanely good map for 5rax. But overall my gameplan for the series was to "abuse my race to the max", which people seem to perceive as a bad thing.
But my macro is not any lesser than IdrA's, so I wasn't afraid of a macro game vs him. I think I showed this well on Blistering Sands. But with that said, I would never just straight up fast expo with banshee or something because Zerg just gets roo far ahead if both players just expand. "Abusing" your race isn't a bad thing, it's a compliment! That's how anything works in life, you get given the materials and its up to you to use it to the best you can.
TeamLiquid: Who was the toughest opponent for you at IEM? mouz.MorroW: For me, it would be Dimaga. In general though, I think people would fear IdrA or me.
TeamLiquid: Any last comments on IEM? mouz.MorroW: Protoss players didn't get far because they played worse, they told me themselves. Dimaga and IdrA are better than most Terrans here. I won because I was the best player at the event, but at same time Terran is a bit too good. I put my heart and soul into practising and preparing well while the other players were out late at night. I'm sick of hearing Terran imbalance talk and I wish I would get more respect of a player. I hope Terran gets nerfed, so the better Terrans are more apparent and so more Protoss and Zerg get the wins they deserve.
TeamLiquid: We know you've been involved in the mapping scene, do you have any plans to continue? mouz.MorroW: It was going great and I had a lot of fun, but I have too little time now since school started. As stands at the moment, I wont put any more effort into it except maybe during school breaks.
TeamLiquid: What about the use of custom maps in tournaments, how do you feel about that? mouz.MorroW: I think custom maps will definitely take over because of Blizzards lack of skill in map making. But I think the way they are designing sc2 will make maps less significant compared to lets say sc1. If you make a bad map in sc2 it can actually have good gameplay anyway, but in sc1 this was not the case.
TeamLiquid: So you expect maps to play out more or less the same, in general? mouz.MorroW: It comes down to map sizes, they will probably get larger in the future. But I think maps like Steppes will fade out just because of the lack of builds and gameplay they offer.
TeamLiquid: Do you think its too early to begin rotating maps in/out? mouz.MorroW: It would be really cool to bring in new maps to tournament, but at the same time I think they are needed in the ladder pool first. I think we should milk the maps in the current map pool so Blizzard can balance the game. If we change maps too quickly then its going to be hard to say if its because of maps or the matchup. The current maps have a good mixture of styles to properly assess balance, except the map pool maybe lacks a "python" map at the moment.
But on some maps, like Steppes of War, there are some really broken builds. In about a half year I'd probably feel unsatisfied to sit and play 2rax marauder reactor hellion against every Zerg because its unstoppable even if you scout it, well... almost unstoppable. Some maps just favor some stuff so heavily, mostly just because of the short distances.
MorroW at IEM - picture credit: lopper TeamLiquid: Who do you feel are the best players per race, excluding yourself! mouz.MorroW: Well lets start off by excluding the entire asia server - I have no idea how good they are. So IdrA and Dimaga for zergs, HuK and White-ra for Protoss. Terran I don't know. I hope I don't sound too arrogant saying this, but it feels like they are all a step beneath me, although the Korean Terrans should be better than me. They probably are since I'm copying their reaper builds lol! But demuslim and lucifron were really good, but they went inactive and their skills deteriorated. Brat_ok and Strelok as well. The only one who I feel is consistently at the top is myself, at the moment.
So top players for the other races are a lot easier than for Terran, which is a lot less apparent. Wait for a Terran nerf, wait 1 month and then ask me again.
TeamLiquid: Any balance tweaks you would make for the next patch? mouz.MorroW: Well the issues are mostly in TvZ early game. If I were balancing the game I would devote all my efforts into balancing that. I don't know how to fix this, I'm not from Blizzard - they will probably nerf reaper some what though. Its my job as a player to point out the issues, its Blizzard's job to fix it ^^.
TeamLiquid: Good philosophy! mouz.MorroW says: If they add 1 damage or remove 1 damage to a unit, as a player I need 500 games before I can say something about that - unless its extreme or everyone agrees like when Roach was super imba. But right now we don’t have any obvious things like that, its mostly just the early game structure for TvZ that’s kinda broken. But the last thing I want is the zergs to be blaming the matchups when they lose. Even IdrA and Dimaga played less than optimal at the most important lan so far. I'm not perfect either, so IEM mostly came down to skill. But it does seem like lesser Terrans can win vs better Zergs since it’s hard to play safe with Zerg. But as Terran, I could make all my buildings at my choke and not even 15 banelings can kill me - Zerg don't have that kind of flexibility.
TeamLiquid: You already said that Protoss underperformed at IEM, but overall Protoss seem to be really struggling - any thoughts behind this? mouz.MorroW: I don't know much about PvZ, it seems to come down to skill. PvT seems to be a pretty unexplored matcuhp, because I find success in every build I play but I also find good things about every Protoss build that I see. If you watch the playstyle between tosses they play so differently, while for zergs they have more of "figured out" their matchups so I'd say Protoss needs more practice, and games, so the players so the can unite and say "this is how you play Protoss". Before Protoss figure that out I don't think they should touch the balance too much, we just don't know enough yet. But overall the Protoss are less skilled than the Terrans, that's the truth.
TeamLiquid: Speaking of style, How important do you think style is to sc2? mouz.MorroW: Well in sc2, you will have to learn all playstyles to be a top level player. Right now you can have one style just because people are terrible at the game. Later on you will need different styles to counter different possible styles of your opponent. This is unlike sc1, everyone had pretty much about the same "style" or in wc3 where I heard everyone plays the same there as well. Sc2 feels more designed to be more accommodating for players to choose what they wanna build and so it comes down to execution and scouting rather than everyone being forced to play in a particular style.
Although, I'd definitely tell any gamer wanting to learn the game seriously right now to choose 1 style in every matchup and stick with it, if you do it practice hard enough, you're going to beat the people with many styles more often than not. Once you get to the higher levels, you can start worrying about playing many styles.
For example, take any progamer in sc1. They know all the stuff and choose different styles vs different players. It’s not like you see Flash camp every game since then he’s too prone to being abused by 12nex into 3base on 1gate, which, by the way, was the official "beat MorroW build" in the foreigner scene. However, by that time I learned that if I start to mix up my play then they will be forced to play more safe. That’s the key thing about styles, that's the exact reason you want to have more than 1 at the highest level.
TeamLiquid: Any closing remarks/words to fans/antifans? mouz.MorroW: My best matchup is TvT, thats the truth. Too many of my TvT's go unnoticed so people can't see that I do have strong solid foundations. I win tournaments because I practice hard. Thanks alot for all the extreme support I've gotten lately and shame on all the diamond 50% win ratio Zergs who complain after each game they lose.
Thanks a lot to mousesports and its sponsors; razer, intel, giel, hoh and medion. Ill try to keep up the good results in the future, and with that im done, thanks ^^
TeamLiquid: Thanks for taking the time to give this interview!
Feel like you are apart of the camp who have overlooked MorroW until right now? Well TeamLiquid has thought of people like you, and prepared a MorroW replay pack consisting of 77 games from all matchups (and there is a A LOT of TvT). These replays were collected from the various tournaments that MorroW has played in, so there are a lot of good games in there.
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Hooray! A MorroW interview! I've actually always thought of him as an awesome mapmaker guy, and I do I have to admit I was surprised when he started racking up tons of wins.
Congratulations to him on the IEM win! :D
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Damn, long interview. Great read though!
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He just answers every question straight up. Great to have a (great) player be so open in interviews. Good read!
Now start nerfing my race!
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Batisterio-PiB
Brazil219 Posts
Thx for the interview! Good one!
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Morrow is badass, sounds so mature and honest. Can't wait to see him in future tounaments, gl hf with school!
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Wow amazing Interview.
It's fantastic when players just speak their mind. Morrow is my new favourite Terran player. And for the record I always glhf and gg against Terrans xD
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I like his authentic personality MorroW fighting! And shame on me ... because I did not ask him for an autograph at the TL Meetup Well, I hope there will be a chance in the future^^
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On August 27 2010 17:48 theMarkovian wrote: He just answers every question straight up. Great to have a (great) player be so open in interviews. Good read!
agree, it's good to read something straight forward like this - nevertheless he "does" seem to be a little condescending....maybe because of the internet-text-format, but two things bothered me:
a) that he thinks he is one level above the other terrans; I mean, that's just wrong....the fact that you have the strongest mirror matchup doesn't automatically say you are the best of your race; meaning: morrow probably can win against any other terran in the western hemisphere in a TvT, but he might as well lose a TvZ or TvP where other terrans would've won
b) saying that terrans are more skilled than protoss; ok, I am a protoss-player, but still: that's bullshit; I mean, how are the odds that "somehow" many ppl who decided to play terran are "better" while others who decided to play protoss are "worse"; simply according to standard probability theory the chances are very, very, very low; it may very well be that the 2-3 best terrans are better than the 2-3 best protoss-players....but generally saying that terran players are more skilled than protoss players....sorry, but you can't do that, it's offending; he is right that protoss haven't figured out their "way" yet; many pros play protoss very differently and no style seem to stand out; nevertheless, chances that this has something to do with protoss players beeing generally worse than terran players at understanding their race are very low; the probability, that the "one" appropriate terran style is simply easier to master is much higher (in TvP it would be bio with ghost and/or raven-support)
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That was a pretty solid interview I respect him even more after reading his thoughts. Glad he recognizes there are some imbalances but at the same time points out that LAN usually comes down to whoever makes the least mistakes.
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Pretty much right on every point. Yes he is arrogant but he deserves it.
Edit: I think he doesn't like toss as a race like many BW terrans
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
On August 27 2010 18:05 sleepingdog wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2010 17:48 theMarkovian wrote: He just answers every question straight up. Great to have a (great) player be so open in interviews. Good read! b) saying that terrans are more skilled than protoss; ok, I am a protoss-player, but still: that's bullshit; I mean, how are the odds that "somehow" many ppl who decided to play terran are "better" while others who decided to play protoss are "worse"; simply according to standard probability theory the chances are very, very, very low; it may very well be that the 2-3 best terrans are better than the 2-3 best protoss-players....but generally saying that terran players are more skilled than protoss players....sorry, but you can't do that, it's offending; he is right that protoss haven't figured out their "way" yet; many pros play protoss very differently and no style seem to stand out; nevertheless, chances that this has something to do with protoss players beeing generally worse than terran players at understanding their race are very low; the probability, that the "one" appropriate terran style is simply easier to master is much higher (in TvP it would be bio with ghost and/or raven-support) Pretty sure he was talking generically, and I think he's got a really good point. Many "top" Protoss don't have the same level of mechanics as their other race counterparts, particularly because 4gate is so damn strong (or used to be). It's difficult to name a lot of strong protoss players, whereas Terran or Zerg you have no problem. I'm not talking about Huk or White-ra here, I'm talking about the overall race depth.
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On August 27 2010 18:05 sleepingdog wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2010 17:48 theMarkovian wrote: He just answers every question straight up. Great to have a (great) player be so open in interviews. Good read! agree, it's good to read something straight forward like this - nevertheless he "does" seem to be a little condescending....maybe because of the internet-text-format, but two things bothered me: a) that he thinks he is one level above the other terrans; I mean, that's just wrong....the fact that you have the strongest mirror matchup doesn't automatically say you are the best of your race; meaning: morrow probably can win against any other terran in the western hemisphere in a TvT, but he might as well lose a TvZ or TvP where other terrans would've won b) saying that terrans are more skilled than protoss; ok, I am a protoss-player, but still: that's bullshit; I mean, how are the odds that "somehow" many ppl who decided to play terran are "better" while others who decided to play protoss are "worse"; simply according to standard probability theory the chances are very, very, very low; it may very well be that the 2-3 best terrans are better than the 2-3 best protoss-players....but generally saying that terran players are more skilled than protoss players....sorry, but you can't do that, it's offending; he is right that protoss haven't figured out their "way" yet; many pros play protoss very differently and no style seem to stand out; nevertheless, chances that this has something to do with protoss players beeing generally worse than terran players at understanding their race are very low; the probability, that the "one" appropriate terran style is simply easier to master is much higher (in TvP it would be bio with ghost and/or raven-support)
You said it, protoss has not yet figured out their race just yet. This is a huge cripple and put them behind. Terran wasn't so dominant earlier, it's when they figured things out and learned how to execute this to the best of perfection they really came out as a more skilled player. Protoss is less skilled since they struggle to figure it all out.
Also I like his self confidence and just say it as it is, he is probably the best terran in the west. I really like how dangerous he becomes when he goes into macro mode. He is quite a likeable guy, wish people would just speak their mind when interviewed like this.
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Excellent interview, especially the straightforward answers. MorroW sounds like a really intelligent guy, his analysis is pretty much spot on.
I was fortunate enough to watch the entire event (SC2 portions) since being in Australia, the time suited me very well. All the players seem like people I would cheer for at any event, unfortunately there can only ever be 1 winner (except in Dimaga's case - he wins just for being awesomely cheerful).
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Didn't Morrow say back during TSL2 that TvT was his weakest BW matchup? Now suddenly he is the TvT master for SC2...
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I didnt see any arrogance or condescension at all. In fact I felt he was being a bit cautious at points, but still managed to be honest and clearly state his points. I read interviews because I want to know what top players think. Trust me, this is way better than someone trying to give PC/false modest answers that tell you nothing.
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On August 27 2010 18:21 hdkhang wrote: .. unfortunately there can only ever be 1 winner (except in Dimaga's case - he wins just for being awesomely cheerful).
So true, Dimaga is such a likeable guy. I hope he has a fanclub here on TL
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he allmosts looks comfortable with the woman :o!
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On August 27 2010 18:22 Weasel- wrote: Didn't Morrow say back during TSL2 that TvT was his weakest BW matchup? Now suddenly he is the TvT master for SC2...
Man i never played terran in BW and now TvT is my strongest and favourite MU . Easier macro and micro makes for a lot of strategic thinking , and i try to emulate Flash and other top BW terran players in SC 2 .
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On August 27 2010 18:18 Plexa wrote: Pretty sure he was talking generically, and I think he's got a really good point. Many "top" Protoss don't have the same level of mechanics as their other race counterparts, particularly because 4gate is so damn strong (or used to be). It's difficult to name a lot of strong protoss players, whereas Terran or Zerg you have no problem. I'm not talking about Huk or White-ra here, I'm talking about the overall race depth.
I understood Morrow and this is exactly what I meant - now, I reall do not want to seem like just another protoss-whiner who can't get his act together and blames everything on balance; this is neither the thread nor am I the person for something like that
you are perfectly right, when we watch "the best" protoss-players they seem to somehow lack the perfect mechanics we see from terran and imo also zerg; nevertheless my point was, that basic probability theory does not suggest that at all - the probability, that due to some very bizarre reasons protoss-players fail to master the protoss-playstyle, while terran and zerg pros steadily advance is very low; it is much more likely, that the protoss-race in general somehow "prevents" players from developing a smooth mechanical-like playstyle; to put it very simple: right now it seems as if protoss is the race with the most viable openings (opposed to zerg who got...well....one....) but none of them is truly outstanding: like the bio-tech from terran; of course "outstanding" wouldn't mean "better"...simply giving protoss a general 50/50 chance of winning, both opponents being of the same skill; long it seemed as if 4gate into expansion into whatever was the way to go; nowadays terran and zerg can deal with that pretty well, I guess nobody would call a straight-forward 4gate push recommendable any more nowadays; then it seemed (sticking with TvP) that 1 or 2gate into robo for fast immortal + observer was viable; nevertheless I rarely see it succeed anymore, if I watch reps from the korean realm they hardly do it either; again protoss seems to be back at square one
now this doesn't automatically means "imbalance" of course and by no means do I want to turn this into a general discussion about the state of protoss; my criticism was pointed towards the fact that morrow oddly seems to think that the fact why protoss-players haven't developed their race by now (they've pretty much stagnated since release) can be explained by the lacking skill of protoss-players; this is what bothers me, because that's just arrogant; he could've at least considered the possibility that this could have something to do with the race itself (subjunctive!); mainly the complete lack of harassment-possibilities until early midgame (phoenix) and the lack of a strong low-food-unit-compositioning (MMM-players manage to beat gateway+immortal steadily nowadays)
sorry for the long read, didn't plan on writing that much initially....
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"I won because I was the best player at the event" and "Terran I don't know. I hope I don't sound too arrogant saying this, but it feels they are all a step underneath me" AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
This guy has some nerve... wins one big tournament and thinks he is god. Morrow now has the least respect of any player in the community, in my opinion. Wow LOL.
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On August 27 2010 18:05 sleepingdog wrote: a) that he thinks he is one level above the other terrans; I mean, that's just wrong....the fact that you have the strongest mirror matchup doesn't automatically say you are the best of your race; If you watched all the games at IEM you can see he was leagues ahead of the other Terrans. All the other Terrans have holes in their games: TLO; not brilliant at macro yet, creative play not 100% polished or effective. (he's still amazing tho) Tarson; He lets his micro slip all the time, far too many reaper mistakes versus Dimaga DeMuslim; Macro slips and he tilts in longer games. He was completely outplayed in the mid/late game by IdrA.
Morrow was the most complete player in the tournament. Great micro, great macro, great gamesense and flexible enough to adjust in tournament play.
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Nice to see a swedish person not being modest just for the sake of being modest. Cheers
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Kyrgyz Republic1462 Posts
Appreciate the honesty, but he overrates himself in my opinion. Dimaga lost that game on Xel'Naga Caverns rather than Morrow won it and Idra's play was disappointing in the finals.
Morrow is very good at finding things to abuse and abusing them - but it only works so well because the game is still new. When it will get more stable and people learn how to deal with all these abusive strategies, he will not be in the top.
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Very good Interview, Morrow knows what hes talking about and isnt afraid to say what he thinks. Seeing him win at IEM makes me even more proud that im like 5-1 or smth against him You owe me an icecream for that beta zvt practice making u realize u cant let Z expand and not be aggressive until mid/lategame Morrow !
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Morrow's play was really top notch during IEM, and I agree with his position on maps - they simply feel too small, so some all-in builds are going to be incredibly hard to stop (like marauder hellion on steppes, especially with denied scouting)
Morrow seems really passionate about the game, and I hope he goes far in the SC2 scene.
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On August 27 2010 18:56 Random() wrote: When it will get more stable and people learn how to deal with all these abusive strategies, he will not be in the top.
That is also what he wants. I think he will come out ahead when things settle down, asia excluded.
Did you guys notice how he thinks there are many good terrans (although not as good as him) and mention many names but does not include TLO. Is TLO really that bad at the moment?
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popular guy :D
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Really good interview. So many honest answers, that's what I want to read. Thanks MorroW.
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Very comprehensive interview. SC2 strategies still have a lot of room to develop.
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On August 27 2010 18:46 BingoFace wrote: "I won because I was the best player at the event" and "Terran I don't know. I hope I don't sound too arrogant saying this, but it feels they are all a step underneath me" AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
This guy has some nerve... wins one big tournament and thinks he is god. Morrow now has the least respect of any player in the community, in my opinion. Wow LOL.
Well, he did win the event so maybe he were the best player at the event?
But I can not figure out which terran you think is at the same level as him at the moment?
I think he is correct, and it's not like his claiming he is god or even better than the koreans.
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I don't mean to drag this up but there are some statements which sort of counter previous answers to previous questions. Goes on about how he doesn't want to bring up match imbalance, then states how terran vs zerg is imbalance (any build he does basically works, he can build outside his base and zerg can't bust him, etc)... I don't know much about sc2, but yes you want to play abusive, but if you are winning with imbalanced matchups (which no1 can say sc2 is balanced, its a new game so it will take its time) it's hard to argue or get people to agree to not complain about this.
He played well, don't want to take away credit, but the imbalance helps the skill level.
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Canada167 Posts
Really well spoken. Good luck to him.
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Wasn't morrow the guy who was open minded about dodging in the TSL 2 ladder? I remember really appreciating that rational thinking and honesty.
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But I can not figure out which terran you think is at the same level as him at the moment?
roxkisBratOK - in all honesty, if morrow hadn't replaced him, I'm pretty sure he would've won; although it's redundant to speculate about since he wasn't at the tournament, but considering how awsome his games were right before the event I'm sure he would've gotten far
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I flamed Morrow and his win in another thread, but that's because I play zerg and I was on tilt after seeing the close games vs dimaga and idra getting owned.
However, I haven't seen anyone do such aggressive and, above all, continuous(!) reaper harrassment since then. I even checked korean replays, and rarely have I seen a terran who can match morrow in his refined build order, crisp execution, on the spot multitasking and reaper micro.
So, congrats morrow! You earned your win.
On the plus side: nothing is funnier than mid diamond Terrans who try to copy morrows build and fail spectacularly, because they either keep their reapers alive but build no more scvs after they have 5+ reapers, or they conitnue macoring but keep losing their reapers for nothing :p This 5 rax reaper has done wonders for my win percentage vs terran
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he seems a bit bitter, as if he feels he doesnt get enough attention :O
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
On August 27 2010 19:31 Pippah wrote: he seems a bit bitter, as if he feels he doesnt get enough attention :O To be fair, tons of people were raging on the day blaming imbalance for his victory. Morrow is a legit player, he always has been. Just like everyone else, he's practiced a ridiculous amount. At the end of the day he made the least mistakes at IEM, and that's why he was the winner on the day.
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On August 27 2010 18:22 Weasel- wrote: Didn't Morrow say back during TSL2 that TvT was his weakest BW matchup? Now suddenly he is the TvT master for SC2... dude this are two different games
very nice interview, would love to see morrow going to korea and participate in the GSL
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On August 27 2010 18:23 crappen wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2010 18:21 hdkhang wrote: .. unfortunately there can only ever be 1 winner (except in Dimaga's case - he wins just for being awesomely cheerful). So true, Dimaga is such a likeable guy. I hope he has a fanclub here on TL yea, i met dimaga in the beijing airport last year when i was filming a commercial. really nice guy. lots of smiles and chatter. he couldnt believe that he got recognized in the beijing airport..was fun
as far as morrow saying that his play is stronger that others.. well, he proved it so if you think he is "arrogant" then you might need to check your values.
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i love how direct he answers the question, great interview, MorroW is a beast
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On August 27 2010 19:42 Plexa wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2010 19:31 Pippah wrote: he seems a bit bitter, as if he feels he doesnt get enough attention :O To be fair, tons of people were raging on the day blaming imbalance for his victory. Morrow is a legit player, he always has been. Just like everyone else, he's practiced a ridiculous amount. At the end of the day he made the least mistakes at IEM, and that's why he was the winner on the day. this. i really feel saddened by the fact that he felt like he had to justify himself because of all the people unable to acknowledge the amount of time he put into practicing this game. in the games between him and idra both played amazingly well and the games showed what a rock solid player he is. idra was still learning how to cope with the build but got better every game, but he made a few more and fatal mistakes than morrow, the most conspicuous being the one where he couldnt keep up with his larva injections and his macro slipped. to disrespect either of them just because your favourite (player/race) didnt win or because you suck at the game and need to blame an outside source for it, and the number of people who did just that, really disgraces the sc community.
/end rant
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I feel for MorroW. People just say lawl terran and doesn't give the recognition he deserves as a player. Even on ladder no matter what I do or how I play I just get 'grats on Terran' comments, it gets old.
MorroW fighting~ ^_^
ty for replay pack!
edit: p.s. "and shame on all the diamond 50% win ratio Zergs who complain after each game they lose."
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Excellent interview, respect MorroW!
Although I'm Zerg and hoped IdrA or Dimaga would take the finals I think he deserved it.
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Why does he keep contradicting himself? It's fair to call early game TvZ broken but zergs shouldn't blame the game for their losses and he won because he was the best player.
It seems to me like he's trying to sound like a tough guy but every now and then his common-sense kicks in and he says something he actually believes, only to return to fake terminator-mode again.
2 rax marauder reactor hellion on Steppes is almost imposible to stop but don't whine about game balance. Terran could be imbalanced but we should trust him that the other players played worse than him so it doesn't matter anyway. I don't like whiners either, but you can't have it both ways.
I agree it's a well deserved win but he's undermining that when he's admitting early game TvZ is broken.. so in a way he's giving justification to those looking for a reason to not respect his win and has no right to complain after that statement.
I guess it's better than the average polite korean non-interview that could be written without talking to the player since they're so boring and predictable, but it's still a salad of incoherent half-baked ideas if you ask me.
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Nice to see someone not responding with the generic korean pro gamer answers. Good read.
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Good interview, but I'd expect the editor to clean up the spelling mistakes and what not -.- (seemed like I was being trolled at one point after reading it)
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I'm surprised he actually thinks he was the best player there. Had he said he thought he was the best player on the day I wouldn't be so surprised.
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On August 27 2010 18:22 Weasel- wrote: Didn't Morrow say back during TSL2 that TvT was his weakest BW matchup? Now suddenly he is the TvT master for SC2...
Could be because they're two different games...?
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On August 27 2010 21:09 Doctorasul wrote: Why does he keep contradicting himself? It's fair to call early game TvZ broken but zergs shouldn't blame the game for their losses and he won because he was the best player.
It seems to me like he's trying to sound like a tough guy but every now and then his common-sense kicks in and he says something he actually believes, only to return to fake terminator-mode again.
2 rax marauder reactor hellion on Steppes is almost imposible to stop but don't whine about game balance. Terran could be imbalanced but we should trust him that the other players played worse than him so it doesn't matter anyway. I don't like whiners either, but you can't have it both ways.
I agree it's a well deserved win but he's undermining that when he's admitting early game TvZ is broken.. so in a way he's giving justification to those looking for a reason to not respect his win and has no right to complain after that statement.
I guess it's better than the average polite korean non-interview that could be written without talking to the player since they're so boring and predictable, but it's still a salad of incoherent half-baked ideas if you ask me.
Seems to me like you're just nitpicking here.
What he said was that even though the early game in TvZ is a bit broken Zergs can't blame their every loss on that fact. In the end, the person who wins is still going to be the person who makes the least amount of mistakes and takes advantage of the opponents mistakes, like what MorroW did vs IdrA.
If a Zerg player plays 100% perfectly and still loses to a Terran who makes a bunch of mistakes, then you can point your finger at the matchup.
The 2 rax marauder-statement goes to map-balance not matchup-balance, which is why he also said some maps are imbalanced etc,etc.
It's completely possible for the outcome of a match to be based on the players skill even if a matchup or map is imbalanced. Stop seeing everything as black or white, there's an infinite amount of grey in the middle that shouldn't be ignored.
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He doesnt sound 18 at all.
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On August 27 2010 21:18 Goatlust wrote: I'm surprised he actually thinks he was the best player there. Had he said he thought he was the best player on the day I wouldn't be so surprised. I don't think he meant to say that he was the best player there but the player who performed best in the event. I believe it is a common error swedes do when trying to communicate in english (due to swedish grammar).
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On August 27 2010 21:34 10or10 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2010 21:18 Goatlust wrote: I'm surprised he actually thinks he was the best player there. Had he said he thought he was the best player on the day I wouldn't be so surprised. I don't think he meant to say that he was the best player there but the player who performed best in the event. I believe it is a common error swedes do when trying to communicate in english (due to swedish grammar). Yeah, I thought it might just be his wording thanks to his unfamiliarity with English.
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Yeah Stefan, lets get Sweden on the E-Sport map! Best of luck from the south!
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That's a good interview, looks like some Smackdown interview !
Can't wait for the next Morrow Vs Idra, known as Coca Vs Pepsi !
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She has such nice headphones really I wouldn't mind doing her backstage, I hope morrow did something with her since she just asks for it with those headphones really.
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he is delusioned with victories. didn't like his atitude, sounds too arrogant. Nice interview by liquid though
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Nooo I'm older than people now this is so weird seeing someone state their age in pro foeigner interviews and have them be younger D: aaaagh. At this age it doesn't even really matter but it still bothers me for some silly reason
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morrow is cool. I like his attitude.
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United States7481 Posts
"And Artosis is too heavily crippled by the imbalance, so my group was not too difficult." xfd what a baller
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haha it's always nice to see an in depth perspective from the elite players
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Full o' self confidence I see... MorroW ftw. Great interview as well.
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What a sad read ... Protoss players are just bad ? Give me a break. Really liked the lenght of the interview though.
See you next patch.
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United Kingdom16710 Posts
always thought morrow was underrated by many and im glad he has shown the world what he is capable of. to be at the top, you have to have an abundance of self-confidence and yes it can come off as arrogance but i'd rather see a player be totally honest then cover it up with false-modesty. just look at top athletes like federer, c.ronaldo, bolt...etc and you'll understand.
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On August 27 2010 19:23 Patriot.dlk wrote: Wasn't morrow the guy who was open minded about dodging in the TSL 2 ladder? I remember really appreciating that rational thinking and honesty.
Yes that was him.
On August 27 2010 19:31 Pippah wrote: he seems a bit bitter, as if he feels he doesnt get enough attention :O
Honestly, after the post-tourney interview I was a bit pissed of myself. When the interviewer was just talking about Terran imbalance in the interview I was like wtf - these things should be done to celebrate his great success, not to hint at the winner not being the deserving champion. And even though I hadnt been on TL.net during the time in cologne I obviously already know that the LR threads would be full of whining zerg players who would attribute his success solely to imbalance.
Morrow is a guy where you just feel how incredibly ambitious he is and that he's working really really hard on becoming a top pro gamer. Like he already mentioned himself, the other players were already out dancing and partying and he was still in front of the computer, just practicing like crazy. If you think that he's slowly gonna fade away once Terran gets nerfed, you're a fool. Morrow's gonna be around for a long time to come.
On August 27 2010 23:23 Boblion wrote: What a sad read ... Protoss players are just bad ? Give me a break. Really liked the lenght of the interview though.
See you next patch.
He's not the only one that thinks so. Nazgul also said that he thinks that there just aren't that many strong Protoss players around.
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was pissed against morrow after the win against idra. but after reading through this interview it seems like he doesn't seem to get enough recognition though.
however the way he puts his words across seems like he wants blizzard to nerf terrans and have more protosses and zergs come up so that he can beat them and show that he is indeed the better player. quite the attitude imo(in the way i see it,no offense,just commenting)
And is it me or does he have something against TLO? he doesn't seem to credit TLO and instead says that other terrans are better, as though we are overhyping TLO
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On August 28 2010 00:23 Invictus wrote: And is it me or does he have something against TLO? he doesn't seem to credit TLO and instead says that other terrans are better, as though we are overhyping TLO
He thinks TLO will be the best foreigner after a few months in Korea.
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TLO is probably being overhyped. He's a creative player with great micro but those kind of players get crushed by more solid standard macro players in BW. TLO's days will come where his style no longer surprises his opponents.
There was so much rage on the LR thread that people never recognized Morrow's godly micro and multitasking and macro. Beating Idra 3-1 is not easy and Morrow definitely seemed like he was ahead of the rest of the Terrans.
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It comes across as if Morrow feels he doesn't get the respect he deserves for beating Idra.
I like that he says he wants Terran to get nerfed so it can separate the men from the boys, but I think until that happens any Terran player isn't going to get much hype around them like the dimaga or idras.
I don't know about the macro game on blistering vs Idra either. Idra made mistakes this is for sure. But I don't know if it was a fair fight. it wasn't a 'straight-up' macro game, because as Morrow said, the table was stacked in his favour from his opening.
All this said though, one good way to measure up a player is vs his own race. And in this sense Morrow is outstanding. I can't wait to see how he develops and if as the game develops he can maintain the sort of performance he showed at IEM.
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Thanks for the great interview. The questions were on point and the responses provided actual answers. It does seem like he contradicts himself a little bit but I understand his point about even if there is a little imbalance, it's still going to be the person making more mistakes 90% of the time that gets the loss.
All in all a very revealing look into morrow's thoughts. A+ from me
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Wow, what's with his attitude in this interview. He sounds so cocky and arrogant, especially the part where he says he's one step above other terrans..... Good interview though.
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Morrow has always been very underrated, even more so in BW. He would often say things that could easily be interpreted as egotistical, especially in text form, but it's clear he just wants more recognition and respect for all the effort he put in.
Of course it's difficult to complain about not getting the attention you deserve without sounding like a twat. Personally I think the wise thing to do is to avoid trying altogether.
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Nice interview, it paints a pretty good picture of the SC2 scene since beta, focusing on TvZ in particular.
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If protoss player are less skilled than terran why did he lose against chobo? edit: anyways he is a good player but he should be careful of what he is saying
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I loved the interview and have new found respect for MorroW. He's straight up honest confident to the border of arrogance but a darned well rounded player.
He does contradict himself and ofcourse no one likes winning a tournament (with the likes of TLO, whitera and idra participating in) and being called a noob or an abuser.
I can't believe he's 18 either. Very solid points of view and it gave me a lot of insights into his thinking. I wish more players would be straight up and honest.
And I can't wait for Nony/Tyler to take up the protoss mantle and show us what our race can do!
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On August 27 2010 21:34 10or10 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2010 21:18 Goatlust wrote: I'm surprised he actually thinks he was the best player there. Had he said he thought he was the best player on the day I wouldn't be so surprised. I don't think he meant to say that he was the best player there but the player who performed best in the event. I believe it is a common error swedes do when trying to communicate in english (due to swedish grammar).
Either way I think he is right. A high ranking brood war terran is going to be the most rounded sc2 terran there is. I think his play showed that
I hope Terran gets nerfed, so the better Terrans are more apparent and so more Protoss and Zerg get the wins they deserve. I hope for this to. It will be a nice testing period to see which terrans are exactly good and which are just outright abusive.
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On August 28 2010 00:40 vnlegend wrote: TLO is probably being overhyped. He's a creative player with great micro but those kind of players get crushed by more solid standard macro players in BW. TLO's days will come where his style no longer surprises his opponents.
I strongly disagree - I think the only thing TLO has not is something you can learn: mechanic macro; he has this intuitivity of always making a move that his opponent won't expect; like the very hard push vs white ra in the second game; I'm sure no other terran (including morrow) would've done that, because TLO wasn't in a good position; nevertheless he sensed that he could catch even white ra off-guard right here, right now; this is something you can't really learn...
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Awesome interview. He wasn't being condescending. Particularly because he pointed it out. I think Morrow took the place of TLO in my heart for now. He just made apparent that TLO's mechanics are lacking.
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On August 28 2010 02:40 sleepingdog wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2010 00:40 vnlegend wrote: TLO is probably being overhyped. He's a creative player with great micro but those kind of players get crushed by more solid standard macro players in BW. TLO's days will come where his style no longer surprises his opponents.
I strongly disagree - I think the only thing TLO has not is something you can learn: mechanic macro; he has this intuitivity of always making a move that his opponent won't expect; like the very hard push vs white ra in the second game; I'm sure no other terran (including morrow) would've done that, because TLO wasn't in a good position; nevertheless he sensed that he could catch even white ra off-guard right here, right now; this is something you can't really learn...
I think you are right. TLO has something nice, he just needs a bit time to get his solidness up. I cant wait to see how good he will be in a month or two.
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I agreed with most of the things he said. Spot on. Protosses haven't figured out themselves with regard to each matchup yet.
I love his straight forwardness.
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On August 28 2010 02:42 Epsilon8 wrote: Awesome interview. He wasn't being condescending. Particularly because he pointed it out. I think Morrow took the place of TLO in my heart for now. He just made apparent that TLO's mechanics are lacking.
yes, but at the same time he noted his micro is inferior to one TLO has.
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Thank you for a really great interview - the depth was fantastic, and it gave a really nice look into the mind and opinions of an otherwise quiet player! I, as well as many others apparently, really liked how straightforward and mature he was with his answers. While he may have seemed to come across as arrogant, I think that he only had that effect because he wants it to be known that he won the IEM tournament (and the many other tournaments) based on his skills, not his luck.
He seems like a very quiet guy, but putting myself in his shoes, I would start to become a little more vocal with my thoughts too if I wasn't getting the credit that I deserved. I think we can all agree that he faced the toughest road (in terms of the caliber of players that he defeated to win the tournament) to win at IEM, and he deserves his championship. I know that I would want my accomplishments (remember that he is the #1 rated StarCraft 2 player in the world according to the Gosu rankings due to his many, many wins) to be noted as well, because of my painstaking dedication and my skills. It would be really frustrating to win a championship and have many people try to validate his win by claiming that it was all due to imbalance.
I really like his attitude! I liked that he was able to admit that there was a TvZ imbalance and that he claimed that he hope that it gets fixed, really as a way to separate the men from the boys - you can't blame him for having the confidence to want to be able to prove that he is one of the best so that more people will give him the credit that he deserves.
Best of luck in the future MorroW, and I hope that your wishes come true so that you can show the world how talented you really are and receive the credit that you feel you deserve!
EDIT: I think that it would be interesting to interview IdrA next, to not only talk about himself and his career and such, but to also reflect on IEM and some of the things that MorroW said in this interview.
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On August 28 2010 04:35 _SkY wrote: EDIT: I think that it would be interesting to interview IdrA next, to not only talk about himself and his career and such, but to also reflect on IEM and some of the things that MorroW said in this interview.
lol, that would just be Idra-Morrow TSL2 Drama 2.0
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Wow. That was one of the most straight-forward interviews I've ever read. He complimented himself when he felt it was necessary and complimented others just the same. He comes clean with Terran imba but at the same time criticizes the Zerg complainers. Wonderful read.
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People saying he's arrogant need to go watch the replays. He was a step above all other terrans at the tournament.
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nice job murrow. keep up your hard work. !
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Nice interview, answered all questions directly and a little arrogance doesn't hurt, it just makes it more interesting and honest
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Really nice interview, i like the fact that Morrow is straight up honest with his answers (as mentioned above). It honestly seems like he's one of the tightest players around now, his micro/macro is extremely good.
Looking forward to see more from him in the upccoming tournaments.
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On August 28 2010 08:33 Ginchan wrote: Nice interview, answered all questions directly and a little arrogance doesn't hurt, it just makes it more interesting and honest
i really think a little arrogance can hurt.
modesty isn't always fake. If you're really into something, even if you are the best, you appreciate the aspects of it that other people have mastered better then you, and you are learning that part of it from them.
i felt he came across as petulant, i prefer the honestly modest pros.
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On August 28 2010 09:01 drift0ut wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2010 08:33 Ginchan wrote: Nice interview, answered all questions directly and a little arrogance doesn't hurt, it just makes it more interesting and honest i really think a little arrogance can hurt. modesty isn't always fake. If you're really into something, even if you are the best, you appreciate the aspects of it that other people have mastered better then you, and you are learning that part of it from them. i felt he came across as petulant, i prefer the honestly modest pros.
didn't hurt idra or nony
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On August 27 2010 18:25 GGDaverave wrote: he allmosts looks comfortable with the woman :o!
Apparently you haven't seen the other IEM pictures:p I think that IdrA should have won if Morrow doesn't "cheese" but regardless it was an exciting game, glad Morrow won
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OMFg Hot chick =D
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Great Interview , seriously people should do interviews just like Morrow , straight up answer the questions directly instead doing some kind of modest look or puppy faces or w/e.
Btw , People don't seem to remember that TLO isn't actually "A Terran Player" , or at least he hasn't been playing terran for that long , so it's not odd that Morrow didn't mention TLO as one of the best terrans. I do strongly believe that TLO will be one of the best (if not THE BEST) Terran player in the future (if he sticks to Terran as his race) as soon he gets his Terran plays more and more solid , which shouldnt' be too long into the future , he just needs a little time.
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LOL that guy is jealous! xD
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Good, solid responces from MorroW, love the honesty. Hope for more epic matches like the ones against Dimaga!
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Big fan of morrow. Straight up guy. Congrats on IEM GC win!
And thanks for replay pack!
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wow this kid keeps it real in a non-douchey way (*cough* idra *cough*)
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Bearded Elder29875 Posts
if I played milion games daily I'd be good too, cocky guy, don't like him :3
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Grats again morrow. You did a kick ass job. Liked the honesty of the interview, even if i didn't like some of the responses.
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Good interview. Bad attitude. Good honesty.
Anyways he was the best player in that tournament and deservedly took the win.
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Does anyone else think it´s sad that he feels the need to get defensive in almost all of the answers? It shouldn´t be like that after winning a tournament, it was a well earned victory T_T
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morrow is awesome. i love his attitude "don't blame, keep practicing, be the best."
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On August 29 2010 09:08 Solaris.playgu wrote: Does anyone else think it´s sad that he feels the need to get defensive in almost all of the answers? It shouldn´t be like that after winning a tournament, it was a well earned victory T_T
I think he's sensitive to the TvZ imba discussion and all the trash talk about him from Idra during the last TSL.
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Been a fan of Morrow since Bw. He's got a in my book.
Great interview, nice to see a lengthy interview touching a lot of subjects and not being answered with one liners or only asking about TvZ.
Gj staff and Morrow!
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Hm. I can understand being angry that he is not getting as much respect for winning the IEM due to talk about imbalance, but it sounds like he is trying to convince himself that the imbalance is less to legitimise himself as a player. Of course he is a great player, but it is obvious that he is not looking at the imbalance situation in a level headed manner because of the fact that his skill as a player is at stake.
Basically, it sounds like he doesn't believe some of the things he is saying. Or he doesn't know if he does.
Either that or he was trying too hard to exhibit certain qualities in the interview, and so his consistency suffered as a result (I say this because I recognise myself doing the same thing sometimes).
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Wow, nice read and pretty long interview!
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On August 27 2010 19:31 Pippah wrote: he seems a bit bitter, as if he feels he doesnt get enough attention :O
This
Some of his answers are very strange. In the same answer he talks about TvZ being imbalanced and then somehow coming to the conclusion that skill makes all the difference, not race balance at all?
I found it also quite hilarious that he said in SC1 and WC3 people more or less play the same while SC2 is designed not to be like that? Of course no-one plays the same in SC2 the game is like 6 weeks old or something compared to SC1 and WC3 with their 10 and 8 years or whatever.
Either way, thanks for interview. Don't like the guy.
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wow that amazing morrow that you are one of the best in sc2
still remember you in the ToT) channel in europe . back in sc1
congrats for the win !
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Very interesting interview. Thanks!
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I respect him for giving honest answers but jesus he seems like a dick. "Shame on 50% wr Zergs;" what if that WR is affected by TvZ indeed being imba (if it is), and NA ladder being like 60% terran MU's at mid+ diamond?
-_- and yeah he seems pissed that everyone isn't felating him like they do idra.
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Wow he looks so arrogant to me.
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he is wondering why people view a strategy as badwhich he himself describes as abuse. when is abuse ever used in a positive context.
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I can't say that I'm a fan.
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On August 30 2010 05:42 CoMMoDuS wrote: he is wondering why people view a strategy as badwhich he himself describes as abuse. when is abuse ever used in a positive context.
Where does he wonder that exactly? He just doesn't want people to not give him any credit and to blame his success on nothing but an imba build order but to acknowledge the skill he has in this game.
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MorroW is beast.
I can't get the replay pack to work t.t
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such a hottie next to him
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I do agree that that was the worst that I've ever seen IdrA player... ever. Especially the Blistering game. He suicided into the middle of the map at one point, and had like 1200 minerals, which is crazy for IdrA.
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On August 30 2010 10:54 sjschmidt93 wrote: I do agree that that was the worst that I've ever seen IdrA player... ever. Especially the Blistering game. He suicided into the middle of the map at one point, and had like 1200 minerals, which is crazy for IdrA. harassment definitely screwed up his metagame
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Awesome interview. Loved the honesty and the confidence to say what he believes. Doesn't mean I agree 100% but I respect that and I hope other players will be just as candid.
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
On August 30 2010 06:46 acceL.sik wrote: MorroW is beast.
I can't get the replay pack to work t.t Odd? It worked for me? What issues are you having
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Question to morrow.
What will you do TvP when the tank gets nerfed? Do you htink you cannot continue to use it for your FE builds in the way you do, asthe -15 dmg to zealots and sentries is huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuge.
thanks. Big fan down under here! Love your play.
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At least he's a little more upfront than other terrans about his race being completely imba. Still, you can never call yourself the best player if you play terran. I'm not saying he necessarily isn't, just that it's not possible to tell because a zerg or protoss could be better than you and still lose due to imbalance.
I'm glad he wants a nerf, and if it ever comes in a reasonable manner, we will see how good he really is.
But I gotta point something out,
"But my macro is not any lesser than IdrA's, so I wasn't afraid of a macro game vs him."
Lawl.
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To people who doubt his ability (and his claims in this interview), remember that 2nd and 3rd places were zergs, and he was the only T who managed to beat them. So the TvZ imbalance is rather small, and by no means should take away credit from his win. Consequentially, no matter how level headed he might be, if instead of the credit he deserves but doesn't get for his win people talk about the perceived imbalance, it surely does annoy him. Hence, he states both that there is some form of early TvZ imbalance, but also that players skill plays by far the predominant role.
I personally love his attitude and gaming talent.
And that chick is stunningly hot. Watch the full video.
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Well whether he is the number one Terran or not people will always have their own opinion but if he thinks he is the best then he can certainly say so. The question asks "who do YOU think is the best of each race?"
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wow. great interview, he's not hesitating to speak his mind, all his points are valid and he doesn't seem to be afraid of what people think of him. he's simply addressing the issues at hand.
if anyone's being petulant, i dare say it's those of us who seem so provoked by his very much straight forward demeanor. sure, some of his statements may be called bold, how ever this is to be expected in light of how difficult it is to come up with meaningful and accurate generalizations, especially when you're only 18 and english isn't your native language.
and yes of course i'm biased since we're fellow swedes, but anyway - i will continue to monitor his progress with great interest. even if balance issues made winning the IEM easier, there is no doubt that MorroW is one of the most skilled starcraft2 gamers in the world today.
it's a also pitty that dimaga didn't win the tournament, as a fellow zerg will always be more important than simply originating from the same nation. sure idra is an amazing player, but as far as i'm concerned, manners are to be a priority, not just gameplay, at least if you're serious about being a professional gamer.
after all, it is only a matter of opinion. ^_^
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Good lenghty interview, "honest" answers.. sure I guess. He comes over arrogant though, having attitude because he doesn't get as much respect as he wants. saying things like "shame on 50% winratio zergs" or "I'm a level above all terrans" doesn't exactly get you fans
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On September 02 2010 19:28 Trizz wrote: Good lenghty interview, "honest" answers.. sure I guess. He comes over arrogant though, having attitude because he doesn't get as much respect as he wants. saying things like "shame on 50% winratio zergs" or "I'm a level above all terrans" doesn't exactly get you fans
Being honest gets you fans. (not sure why you felt the need to put it in quotation marks). Some players *cough* Idra *cough* have tons of fan despite being arrogant and such things, some seemingly just because of it. Also I seriously doubt he made this interview to "get more fans" so I don't see why it matters. You can't please everybody.
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being the best and bad ass like Idra gets you fans
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If only he could fly now to the GSL and replace someone...
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