edit: Well, let's change the question, does anyone know were i can find the points for each win/loss according to rank? I can calculate the winning % by myself. I do remember reading somewhere the % done for PGT in it's time, so i thought they would be there for ICCUP
Rank winning percentage?
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PePe QuiCoSE
Argentina1204 Posts
edit: Well, let's change the question, does anyone know were i can find the points for each win/loss according to rank? I can calculate the winning % by myself. I do remember reading somewhere the % done for PGT in it's time, so i thought they would be there for ICCUP | ||
Doctorasul
Romania1145 Posts
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Jaxx
Slovakia758 Posts
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jingXD
United States283 Posts
Don't think it's changed. | ||
Raelcun
United States3747 Posts
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PePe QuiCoSE
Argentina1204 Posts
D - 33% C - 42% B - 50% A - 56% hope they add this info in a more accessible place in their website | ||
That_guy
47 Posts
On April 05 2008 05:26 jingXD wrote: http://www.rentaextra.com/season2pts.htm Don't think it's changed. What's that olympic rank above A+? Does it have a name (S rank?) And has anyone ever achieved it? | ||
EtherealDeath
United States8366 Posts
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dybydx
Canada1764 Posts
On April 05 2008 07:01 PePe QuiCoSE wrote: oh, ok so to maintain your position playing against your own rank it's something like D - 33% C - 42% B - 50% A - 56% hope they add this info in a more accessible place in their website :p to expand a lil more on that in greater details...(rank/win-loss/percent) D: 1-2 (33.33%) C: 3-4 (42.85%) B: 1-1 (50%) A: 10-13 (56.52%) HOWEVER....in GREATER DETAILS, any ranks above B+ can only be maintained temporarily (ie of boxer is playing against boxer's clone, he would have be ranked B). Thus you can NOT maintain your A- rank by consistently playing A- opponents, because a 50% win ratio will occur and both of you will get demoted to B+. The only way to prevent this from happening is to play MotW. Thus the strategy is, whenever you are A- or above, you should never play against someone of your own rank unless its on MotW. Thus in greater accuracy, the winning percentage for ranks above B+ is 50%, because a wise player of such rank will only play against his own rank on MotW. | ||
ZpuX
Sweden1230 Posts
On April 12 2008 08:43 dybydx wrote: :p to expand a lil more on that in greater details...(rank/win-loss/percent) D: 1-2 (33.33%) C: 3-4 (42.85%) B: 1-1 (50%) A: 10-13 (56.52%) HOWEVER....in GREATER DETAILS, any ranks above B+ can only be maintained temporarily (ie of boxer is playing against boxer's clone, he would have be ranked B). Thus you can NOT maintain your A- rank by consistently playing A- opponents, because a 50% win ratio will occur and both of you will get demoted to B+. The only way to prevent this from happening is to play MotW. Thus the strategy is, whenever you are A- or above, you should never play against someone of your own rank unless its on MotW. Thus in greater accuracy, the winning percentage for ranks above B+ is 50%, because a wise player of such rank will only play against his own rank on MotW. uhm, but playing lower ranks makes you lose even more pts? so playing the same rank, even when A- is the most effective, or do you account for higher win % vs lower ranks? | ||
dybydx
Canada1764 Posts
Step-by-step Guide 1. Since you want to maximize your ranking, you should only play on MotW (unless the map is very imba against you). If you feel a need to "practice your skills", do so with a non-TSL account on iCCup. 2. Pick a rank you feel your skill level is at. (ie D+) 3.1 Suppose your TRUE skill level is D+ or lower then you should always play against players of your own rank (if you true rank is D, only play against D, even if you get promoted to D+ or C-, dont play against C- players) This will allow a D, D+ player reach C- rank by consistently play D ranked players. D- players can only reach D+ rank. Once you reached C-, stop playing with this account. Any additional games will cause you to drop back to D+. 3.2 Suppose your true rank is C-, C or C+, the same strategy as above will allow you to reach C+, C+ and B- respectively. Again, stop playing once you've reached those ranks. (you can however, play using another non TSL account to practice and improve your skill. but until you get better, dont screw with your TSL account, it will cause you to lose a rank.) 3.3 Suppose your true rank is B-, B, B+ the same strategy will allow you to reach B, B+ and A-. This is significant, because A- is possibly enuf to get you into the top 16 and B+ might get you into top 48. You dont want to play with other A- players, because you will start to lose points VERY fast compared to your rate of winning it back. Dont EVER choose to play on a non-MotW map. 3.4 Suppose your true rank is A-. Keep playing against low rated A- players (those newly promoted from B+). If you play 216 games against low A- players, the chance of you winning 116 of em is fairly good, and you will reach A. Once you reach A, dont EVER play another game unless you are PJ or someone who can consistently rape Jangbi, Mind or other Koreans. This is because the best chance to get to A+ is to play against A players. And all A players (4 of em at the moment) are Korean pro gramers that regularly makes it into MSL/OSL. Another strategy if you are A- is to stop playing all together. This is because the inherent 56% winning rate required just to maintain your rank means A- and ranks above are meant to be a "bell curve" type of rank. it doesnt matter if you have skills, it only matters how much MORE skills you have than other A- players. | ||
dybydx
Canada1764 Posts
On April 12 2008 09:05 ZpuX wrote: uhm, but playing lower ranks makes you lose even more pts? so playing the same rank, even when A- is the most effective, or do you account for higher win % vs lower ranks? imagine you have 99 very good SC players that has a 50% winning rate against each other and then 1 player is top of the world. the 1 player will always be in the A ranged ranks, the remaining 99 will be in the B's with some occasionally reaching A- but eventually will drop back to B+. Therefore, it is unadvisable for A- players to keep playing unless they feel that they are that 1 player that is definitely top of the world. Chances are, you are one of those 99 players. | ||
VIB
Brazil3567 Posts
The only way to prevent this from happening is to play MotW. So, theorically, if you always play MotW you can get a+ by mass gaming with less than 50% win ratio? Or am I missing something? | ||
dybydx
Canada1764 Posts
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Divinek
Canada4045 Posts
On April 12 2008 09:41 dybydx wrote: Here, i've made a guide on how to maximize your ranking on the TSL. This will teach you how to obtain a rank higher than you actually have in skills. Step-by-step Guide 1. Since you want to maximize your ranking, you should only play on MotW (unless the map is very imba against you). If you feel a need to "practice your skills", do so with a non-TSL account on iCCup. 2. Pick a rank you feel your skill level is at. (ie D+) 3.1 Suppose your TRUE skill level is D+ or lower then you should always play against players of your own rank (if you true rank is D, only play against D, even if you get promoted to D+ or C-, dont play against C- players) This will allow a D, D+ player reach C- rank by consistently play D ranked players. D- players can only reach D+ rank. Once you reached C-, stop playing with this account. Any additional games will cause you to drop back to D+. 3.2 Suppose your true rank is C-, C or C+, the same strategy as above will allow you to reach C+, C+ and B- respectively. Again, stop playing once you've reached those ranks. (you can however, play using another non TSL account to practice and improve your skill. but until you get better, dont screw with your TSL account, it will cause you to lose a rank.) 3.3 Suppose your true rank is B-, B, B+ the same strategy will allow you to reach B, B+ and A-. This is significant, because A- is possibly enuf to get you into the top 16 and B+ might get you into top 48. You dont want to play with other A- players, because you will start to lose points VERY fast compared to your rate of winning it back. Dont EVER choose to play on a non-MotW map. 3.4 Suppose your true rank is A-. Keep playing against low rated A- players (those newly promoted from B+). If you play 216 games against low A- players, the chance of you winning 116 of em is fairly good, and you will reach A. Once you reach A, dont EVER play another game unless you are PJ or someone who can consistently rape Jangbi, Mind or other Koreans. This is because the best chance to get to A+ is to play against A players. And all A players (4 of em at the moment) are Korean pro gramers that regularly makes it into MSL/OSL. Another strategy if you are A- is to stop playing all together. This is because the inherent 56% winning rate required just to maintain your rank means A- and ranks above are meant to be a "bell curve" type of rank. it doesnt matter if you have skills, it only matters how much MORE skills you have than other A- players. Please don't talk anymore. And at any A rank you lose -140 and gain 130 for same rank motw soooo playing on motw isnt ideal for 50%. That's where that chart is off. | ||
Torlak
Macedonia74 Posts
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