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On February 19 2013 08:47 sitromit wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2013 08:34 Shellshock1122 wrote:On February 19 2013 08:32 RiceAgainst wrote: And thus, it ended 3-0, like I didn't predict. Hmm, maybe the game still isn't ready for release. I dont think you can judge if the game is ready for release or not based off these games. They were played about a week ago and one of the IM players said no one had basically touched the game yet that was still in the GSL. NesTea and Creator still have Code A matches to play so they haven't switched to HoTS full time. There's still a lot of stuff to figure out. Nestea actually even streamed HotS several weeks ago. He also played in showmatches on 2 different occasions, one of which was the 1st HotS showmatch series ever, AFAIK. I'm pretty sure he has more experience with HotS than Creator does. I'm pretty sure for both the hots showmatches, he just showed up without practicing (or practicing much)
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On February 19 2013 08:32 RiceAgainst wrote: And thus, it ended 3-0, like I didn't predict. Hmm, maybe the game still isn't ready for release. It's ready for release when the SP campaign is finished and polished, they'll balance the rest of the stuff as they go along, like they did with WoL.
Obviously it's imbalanced now, not as badly as WoL was at release but it is and pros will figure out more and more completely imbalanced exploits that can destroy tournaments as they play more games.
You just have to accept that for the first few months everything will be a bit volatile and results don't necessarily represent player skill completely.
Just watch and fun and try not to root for one race too hard, depending on the state of the game and on which one it is you might get depressed about results or get too used to success and get depressed after inevitable nerfs. :D
And no way NesTea has more experience with HotS than Creator, that isn't even close. The Prime kid has practiced quite a bit, like all of his teammates.
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On February 19 2013 08:47 sitromit wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2013 08:34 Shellshock1122 wrote:On February 19 2013 08:32 RiceAgainst wrote: And thus, it ended 3-0, like I didn't predict. Hmm, maybe the game still isn't ready for release. I dont think you can judge if the game is ready for release or not based off these games. They were played about a week ago and one of the IM players said no one had basically touched the game yet that was still in the GSL. NesTea and Creator still have Code A matches to play so they haven't switched to HoTS full time. There's still a lot of stuff to figure out. Nestea actually even streamed HotS several weeks ago. He also played in showmatches on 2 different occasions, one of which was the 1st HotS showmatch series ever, AFAIK. I'm pretty sure he has more experience with HotS than Creator does.
I doubt it, Prime is pretty HEAVILY into Hots, more so than they should considering up coming matches TBH.
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On February 19 2013 08:50 ragz_gt wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2013 08:47 sitromit wrote:On February 19 2013 08:34 Shellshock1122 wrote:On February 19 2013 08:32 RiceAgainst wrote: And thus, it ended 3-0, like I didn't predict. Hmm, maybe the game still isn't ready for release. I dont think you can judge if the game is ready for release or not based off these games. They were played about a week ago and one of the IM players said no one had basically touched the game yet that was still in the GSL. NesTea and Creator still have Code A matches to play so they haven't switched to HoTS full time. There's still a lot of stuff to figure out. Nestea actually even streamed HotS several weeks ago. He also played in showmatches on 2 different occasions, one of which was the 1st HotS showmatch series ever, AFAIK. I'm pretty sure he has more experience with HotS than Creator does. I doubt it, Prime is pretty HEAVILY into Hots, more so than they should considering up coming matches TBH. Creator had 210 ladder matches played as of last night. I dont know the timespan for playing all of them though. His ladder account is SKTRain
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On February 19 2013 08:51 Shellshock1122 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2013 08:50 ragz_gt wrote:On February 19 2013 08:47 sitromit wrote:On February 19 2013 08:34 Shellshock1122 wrote:On February 19 2013 08:32 RiceAgainst wrote: And thus, it ended 3-0, like I didn't predict. Hmm, maybe the game still isn't ready for release. I dont think you can judge if the game is ready for release or not based off these games. They were played about a week ago and one of the IM players said no one had basically touched the game yet that was still in the GSL. NesTea and Creator still have Code A matches to play so they haven't switched to HoTS full time. There's still a lot of stuff to figure out. Nestea actually even streamed HotS several weeks ago. He also played in showmatches on 2 different occasions, one of which was the 1st HotS showmatch series ever, AFAIK. I'm pretty sure he has more experience with HotS than Creator does. I doubt it, Prime is pretty HEAVILY into Hots, more so than they should considering up coming matches TBH. Creator had 210 ladder matches played as of last night. I dont know the timespan for playing all of them though. His ladder account is SKTRain
Prime is really OP right now. They have both SKTRain and KTFlash on the same team
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Wouldn't draw much from this. The games were played live on Gisado's stream right after Nestea gave his post-interview in code A in which he stated he hadn't really been playing HotS. Had a lv 10 account on the stream as well, so take from that what you will.
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On February 19 2013 08:51 Shellshock1122 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2013 08:50 ragz_gt wrote:On February 19 2013 08:47 sitromit wrote:On February 19 2013 08:34 Shellshock1122 wrote:On February 19 2013 08:32 RiceAgainst wrote: And thus, it ended 3-0, like I didn't predict. Hmm, maybe the game still isn't ready for release. I dont think you can judge if the game is ready for release or not based off these games. They were played about a week ago and one of the IM players said no one had basically touched the game yet that was still in the GSL. NesTea and Creator still have Code A matches to play so they haven't switched to HoTS full time. There's still a lot of stuff to figure out. Nestea actually even streamed HotS several weeks ago. He also played in showmatches on 2 different occasions, one of which was the 1st HotS showmatch series ever, AFAIK. I'm pretty sure he has more experience with HotS than Creator does. I doubt it, Prime is pretty HEAVILY into Hots, more so than they should considering up coming matches TBH. Creator had 210 ladder matches played as of last night. I dont know the timespan for playing all of them though. His ladder account is SKTRain
Really? I wonder why they don't pick their names. I find it irritating how they name themselves after good players like that -_-.
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On February 19 2013 09:15 blade55555 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2013 08:51 Shellshock1122 wrote:On February 19 2013 08:50 ragz_gt wrote:On February 19 2013 08:47 sitromit wrote:On February 19 2013 08:34 Shellshock1122 wrote:On February 19 2013 08:32 RiceAgainst wrote: And thus, it ended 3-0, like I didn't predict. Hmm, maybe the game still isn't ready for release. I dont think you can judge if the game is ready for release or not based off these games. They were played about a week ago and one of the IM players said no one had basically touched the game yet that was still in the GSL. NesTea and Creator still have Code A matches to play so they haven't switched to HoTS full time. There's still a lot of stuff to figure out. Nestea actually even streamed HotS several weeks ago. He also played in showmatches on 2 different occasions, one of which was the 1st HotS showmatch series ever, AFAIK. I'm pretty sure he has more experience with HotS than Creator does. I doubt it, Prime is pretty HEAVILY into Hots, more so than they should considering up coming matches TBH. Creator had 210 ladder matches played as of last night. I dont know the timespan for playing all of them though. His ladder account is SKTRain Really? I wonder why they don't pick their names. I find it irritating how they name themselves after good players like that -_-. Yeah idk. It seems to be a Prime thing. KTFlash = Marineking, SKTRain = Creator, CJEffOrt = Emir/HogU whatever his name is. that new zerg
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On February 19 2013 09:19 Shellshock1122 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2013 09:15 blade55555 wrote:On February 19 2013 08:51 Shellshock1122 wrote:On February 19 2013 08:50 ragz_gt wrote:On February 19 2013 08:47 sitromit wrote:On February 19 2013 08:34 Shellshock1122 wrote:On February 19 2013 08:32 RiceAgainst wrote: And thus, it ended 3-0, like I didn't predict. Hmm, maybe the game still isn't ready for release. I dont think you can judge if the game is ready for release or not based off these games. They were played about a week ago and one of the IM players said no one had basically touched the game yet that was still in the GSL. NesTea and Creator still have Code A matches to play so they haven't switched to HoTS full time. There's still a lot of stuff to figure out. Nestea actually even streamed HotS several weeks ago. He also played in showmatches on 2 different occasions, one of which was the 1st HotS showmatch series ever, AFAIK. I'm pretty sure he has more experience with HotS than Creator does. I doubt it, Prime is pretty HEAVILY into Hots, more so than they should considering up coming matches TBH. Creator had 210 ladder matches played as of last night. I dont know the timespan for playing all of them though. His ladder account is SKTRain Really? I wonder why they don't pick their names. I find it irritating how they name themselves after good players like that -_-. Yeah idk. It seems to be a Prime thing. KTFlash = Marineking, SKTRain = Creator, CJEffOrt = Emir/HogU whatever his name is. that new zerg It probably ended up as a joke about how MarineKing went by the name Boxer at first
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On February 19 2013 09:26 Die4Ever wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2013 09:19 Shellshock1122 wrote:On February 19 2013 09:15 blade55555 wrote:On February 19 2013 08:51 Shellshock1122 wrote:On February 19 2013 08:50 ragz_gt wrote:On February 19 2013 08:47 sitromit wrote:On February 19 2013 08:34 Shellshock1122 wrote:On February 19 2013 08:32 RiceAgainst wrote: And thus, it ended 3-0, like I didn't predict. Hmm, maybe the game still isn't ready for release. I dont think you can judge if the game is ready for release or not based off these games. They were played about a week ago and one of the IM players said no one had basically touched the game yet that was still in the GSL. NesTea and Creator still have Code A matches to play so they haven't switched to HoTS full time. There's still a lot of stuff to figure out. Nestea actually even streamed HotS several weeks ago. He also played in showmatches on 2 different occasions, one of which was the 1st HotS showmatch series ever, AFAIK. I'm pretty sure he has more experience with HotS than Creator does. I doubt it, Prime is pretty HEAVILY into Hots, more so than they should considering up coming matches TBH. Creator had 210 ladder matches played as of last night. I dont know the timespan for playing all of them though. His ladder account is SKTRain Really? I wonder why they don't pick their names. I find it irritating how they name themselves after good players like that -_-. Yeah idk. It seems to be a Prime thing. KTFlash = Marineking, SKTRain = Creator, CJEffOrt = Emir/HogU whatever his name is. that new zerg It probably ended up as a joke about how MarineKing went by the name Boxer at first And Creator named himself after NesTea after all.
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After watching the series I feel like phoenix shouldn't be able to decimate mutalisks so easily. They have the range, do bonus damage, and attack while they move. While it doesn't hurt all match ups it seems to easily cut through muta plays, maybe if they could remove the bonus damage vs muta? IDK, there needs to be some drawback for the phoenix maybe reduce shield HP or something.
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On February 19 2013 09:57 TeslasPigeon wrote: After watching the series I feel like phoenix shouldn't be able to decimate mutalisks so easily. They have the range, do bonus damage, and attack while they move. While it doesn't hurt all match ups it seems to easily cut through muta plays, maybe if they could remove the bonus damage vs muta? IDK, there needs to be some drawback for the phoenix maybe reduce shield HP or something. I also feel like phoenixes are way too good against mutas, it just seems so 1 dimensional "oh you went mutas? good cause I got phoenixes! I WIN!"
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so funny they increased the muta speed by 5% or something to see more muta play but buffed the hardcounters 10 times more lol, well muta all the way in zvz at least
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If phoenix didn't hard counter muta, protoss would have no variety at all and no follow up to defending it. Zerg would go muta, protoss would answer with blink + storm, and zerg would take every base on the map, pressure with swarm host, and then push with the doom army that protoss doesn't have gas to stop.
And really, it's not exactly any harsher than other unit responses in the game. It's not like zerglings do better against colossi or brood lords do better against vikings.
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On February 19 2013 09:15 blade55555 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2013 08:51 Shellshock1122 wrote:On February 19 2013 08:50 ragz_gt wrote:On February 19 2013 08:47 sitromit wrote:On February 19 2013 08:34 Shellshock1122 wrote:On February 19 2013 08:32 RiceAgainst wrote: And thus, it ended 3-0, like I didn't predict. Hmm, maybe the game still isn't ready for release. I dont think you can judge if the game is ready for release or not based off these games. They were played about a week ago and one of the IM players said no one had basically touched the game yet that was still in the GSL. NesTea and Creator still have Code A matches to play so they haven't switched to HoTS full time. There's still a lot of stuff to figure out. Nestea actually even streamed HotS several weeks ago. He also played in showmatches on 2 different occasions, one of which was the 1st HotS showmatch series ever, AFAIK. I'm pretty sure he has more experience with HotS than Creator does. I doubt it, Prime is pretty HEAVILY into Hots, more so than they should considering up coming matches TBH. Creator had 210 ladder matches played as of last night. I dont know the timespan for playing all of them though. His ladder account is SKTRain Really? I wonder why they don't pick their names. I find it irritating how they name themselves after good players like that -_-. You mean, SlayerSBoxer?
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Creators PvNestea Was good!
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Very happy Creator qualified. I wish it was not over Nestea though.
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On February 19 2013 08:56 Veldril wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2013 08:51 Shellshock1122 wrote:On February 19 2013 08:50 ragz_gt wrote:On February 19 2013 08:47 sitromit wrote:On February 19 2013 08:34 Shellshock1122 wrote:On February 19 2013 08:32 RiceAgainst wrote: And thus, it ended 3-0, like I didn't predict. Hmm, maybe the game still isn't ready for release. I dont think you can judge if the game is ready for release or not based off these games. They were played about a week ago and one of the IM players said no one had basically touched the game yet that was still in the GSL. NesTea and Creator still have Code A matches to play so they haven't switched to HoTS full time. There's still a lot of stuff to figure out. Nestea actually even streamed HotS several weeks ago. He also played in showmatches on 2 different occasions, one of which was the 1st HotS showmatch series ever, AFAIK. I'm pretty sure he has more experience with HotS than Creator does. I doubt it, Prime is pretty HEAVILY into Hots, more so than they should considering up coming matches TBH. Creator had 210 ladder matches played as of last night. I dont know the timespan for playing all of them though. His ladder account is SKTRain Prime is really OP right now. They have both SKTRain and KTFlash on the same team
hahaha... rather cheeky antics
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On February 19 2013 18:05 liberate71 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2013 08:56 Veldril wrote:On February 19 2013 08:51 Shellshock1122 wrote:On February 19 2013 08:50 ragz_gt wrote:On February 19 2013 08:47 sitromit wrote:On February 19 2013 08:34 Shellshock1122 wrote:On February 19 2013 08:32 RiceAgainst wrote: And thus, it ended 3-0, like I didn't predict. Hmm, maybe the game still isn't ready for release. I dont think you can judge if the game is ready for release or not based off these games. They were played about a week ago and one of the IM players said no one had basically touched the game yet that was still in the GSL. NesTea and Creator still have Code A matches to play so they haven't switched to HoTS full time. There's still a lot of stuff to figure out. Nestea actually even streamed HotS several weeks ago. He also played in showmatches on 2 different occasions, one of which was the 1st HotS showmatch series ever, AFAIK. I'm pretty sure he has more experience with HotS than Creator does. I doubt it, Prime is pretty HEAVILY into Hots, more so than they should considering up coming matches TBH. Creator had 210 ladder matches played as of last night. I dont know the timespan for playing all of them though. His ladder account is SKTRain Prime is really OP right now. They have both SKTRain and KTFlash on the same team hahaha... rather cheeky antics
They have CJEffort as well. Might be adding Mvp, Life, DRG, Soulkey and Bogus next.
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