On November 17 2013 10:14 Cascade wrote:
are they done for today?
are they done for today?
yes
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DrPandaPhD
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On November 17 2013 10:14 Cascade wrote: are they done for today? yes | ||
Boucot
France15997 Posts
On November 17 2013 10:14 Cascade wrote: are they done for today? Thank god yes, no 4:00 like yesterday :D | ||
TheDwf
France19747 Posts
On November 17 2013 10:09 Wombat_NI wrote: Show nested quote + On November 17 2013 10:05 TheDwf wrote: On November 17 2013 10:02 Wombat_NI wrote: On November 17 2013 09:57 TheDwf wrote: On November 17 2013 09:57 SnuggleZhenya wrote: Today really crystalized one of the big differences between the Korean players and the foreigners as I see it. It is clear now that many foreigners CAN play at a very high level and compete toe to toe with very good Koreans. But they seem to have trouble playing at that level with the same consistency at the Koreans. Also known as inferior level. True, that said the mechanical difference isn't AS massive as some make out. Koreans seem a hell of a lot better at adjusting builds and timings on the fly, and generally make better decisions too. Not in his best shape, but guys like MC make their timings work with such regularity, even weird ones, they seem to have some triggers mentally Depends on the races. The difference between non-Korean and Korean Terrans regarding this is really huge, for instance. Korean Terrans are superhumans, or perhaps androids. Korean Zergs are mechanically a cut above, especially Jaedong/Soulkey/Life and those of that calibre. Peak Stephano and Scarlett weren't/aren't a million miles off though. Stephano is a case in point though, his on-the-fly decision making was truly sensational at his peak, as was his general gamesense and mental strength. Protosses not so much. I think they have the capacity for sure, but there's just a bit less of a mechanical demand with that race. For Protoss, it depends on the style played. If you were to watch the FPOV of people like Dear, Trap or PartinG while playing a Templar style in PvT, you would still notice a huge difference with a non-Korean Protoss trying to do so. Naturally, the differences are made partially irrelevant if both Protoss play a peaceful turtle style and aren't disturbed much while doing so. For Zerg, someone like Scarlett even had better creep spread than many top Korean Zergs. But someone like DRG with his 250 eapm is still much faster than any non-Korean Zerg. | ||
The_Templar
your Country52796 Posts
BabyKnight 2-3 Symbol TaeJa 3-0 HerO Happy 1-3 Hyun Leenock 3-2 Jjakji Symbol 1-3 TaeJa Hyun 3-1 Leenock TaeJa 3-2 Hyun | ||
Shellshock
United States97248 Posts
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WombaT
Northern Ireland20728 Posts
On November 17 2013 10:16 TheDwf wrote: Show nested quote + On November 17 2013 10:09 Wombat_NI wrote: On November 17 2013 10:05 TheDwf wrote: On November 17 2013 10:02 Wombat_NI wrote: On November 17 2013 09:57 TheDwf wrote: On November 17 2013 09:57 SnuggleZhenya wrote: Today really crystalized one of the big differences between the Korean players and the foreigners as I see it. It is clear now that many foreigners CAN play at a very high level and compete toe to toe with very good Koreans. But they seem to have trouble playing at that level with the same consistency at the Koreans. Also known as inferior level. True, that said the mechanical difference isn't AS massive as some make out. Koreans seem a hell of a lot better at adjusting builds and timings on the fly, and generally make better decisions too. Not in his best shape, but guys like MC make their timings work with such regularity, even weird ones, they seem to have some triggers mentally Depends on the races. The difference between non-Korean and Korean Terrans regarding this is really huge, for instance. Korean Terrans are superhumans, or perhaps androids. Korean Zergs are mechanically a cut above, especially Jaedong/Soulkey/Life and those of that calibre. Peak Stephano and Scarlett weren't/aren't a million miles off though. Stephano is a case in point though, his on-the-fly decision making was truly sensational at his peak, as was his general gamesense and mental strength. Protosses not so much. I think they have the capacity for sure, but there's just a bit less of a mechanical demand with that race. For Protoss, it depends on the style played. If you were to watch the FPOV of people like Dear, Trap or PartinG while playing a Templar style in PvT, you would still notice a huge difference with a non-Korean Protoss trying to do so. Naturally, the differences are made partially irrelevant if both Protoss play a peaceful turtle style and aren't disturbed much while doing so. For Zerg, someone like Scarlett even had better creep spread than many top Korean Zergs. But someone like DRG with his 250 eapm is still much faster than any non-Korean Zerg. There aren't enough FPs of top Korean Protosses these days, shame really. Hopefully more guys will stream during the WCS off-season. Oh DRG, where art thou? | ||
Pandain
United States12861 Posts
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Daogin
Canada2308 Posts
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VictorX
United States773 Posts
Tons of good games: Dayshi vs. Hero, Incontrol vs. ToD to name a few. | ||
Pandain
United States12861 Posts
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Killmouse
Austria5700 Posts
On November 17 2013 10:22 Pandain wrote: Any good games btw? happy games, dayshi vs hero | ||
FrostedMiniWheats
United States30730 Posts
On November 17 2013 10:33 Killmouse wrote: happy games, dayshi vs hero Also Heromarine vs Leenock | ||
Wildmoon
Thailand4189 Posts
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juicyjames
United States3815 Posts
On November 17 2013 10:37 FrostedMiniWheats wrote: Show nested quote + On November 17 2013 10:33 Killmouse wrote: On November 17 2013 10:22 Pandain wrote: Any good games btw? happy games, dayshi vs hero Also Heromarine vs Leenock Is that it for recommended games for today? I'm not sure what "happy games" entails (which series?), but Dayshi vs HerO and Heromarine vs Leenock? | ||
Killmouse
Austria5700 Posts
On November 17 2013 10:44 juicyjames wrote: Show nested quote + On November 17 2013 10:37 FrostedMiniWheats wrote: On November 17 2013 10:33 Killmouse wrote: On November 17 2013 10:22 Pandain wrote: Any good games btw? happy games, dayshi vs hero Also Heromarine vs Leenock Is that it for recommended games for today? I'm not sure what "happy games" entails (which series?), but Dayshi vs HerO and Heromarine vs Leenock? all happy games today were sick in my opinion, btw im terran ;P | ||
Whitewing
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
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Olli
Austria24413 Posts
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Creager
Germany1827 Posts
On November 17 2013 11:03 DarkLordOlli wrote: Taeja vs HerO. That's where the torch passes, it is known It is known. | ||
mishimaBeef
Canada2259 Posts
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