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On December 18 2016 14:56 TaKeTV wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2016 14:54 EatingBomber wrote: Oh, nvm, the units tab showed it - 2 Medivacs at the very end and only one of them was present at the fight in INnoVation's natural.
Good god, he actually dared to drop 8 Marines with the 1 Medivac he had while facing an all-in. How good is he? usually thats what a good player does. He is aware that 8 marines probably don't make for hold or not but they can make a difference when being offensive Actually, I think against Gateways-Voids all-ins you want every single unit to be present - 8 Marines with stimpack (and a Medivac) are actually extremely valuable assets that you would want to have because the snowball effect with Protoss units in this kind of all-in, once all bio units are dead, almost certainly guarantees a win. INnoVation dropping with 8 Marines and the sole Medivac he had, I think was a sign of supreme confidence because it was super risky
Edit: What Charoisaur said as well.
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Innovation would never blow a 3-0 lead. He has this in the bag.
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On December 18 2016 15:00 Solar424 wrote: Innovation would never blow a 3-0 lead. He has this in the bag. LOL
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On December 18 2016 14:59 Charoisaur wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2016 14:56 TaKeTV wrote:On December 18 2016 14:54 EatingBomber wrote: Oh, nvm, the units tab showed it - 2 Medivacs at the very end and only one of them was present at the fight in INnoVation's natural.
Good god, he actually dared to drop 8 Marines with the 1 Medivac he had while facing an all-in. How good is he? usually thats what a good player does. He is aware that 8 marines probably don't make for hold or not but they can make a difference when being offensive when playing vs an allin it's usually not worth it to send units out to harass because you're already ahead just by holding the allin and if you don't hold the allin it doesn't matter if you kill 20 workers on the other side of the map because you have nothing to kill the army and lose. in this game it worked but I think if he kept all his units at home he would've won even easier.
It does remove from your opponent the option of pulling back to regroup for another round of warp-ins before continuing the all-in, and puts pressure on them, so it isn't all bad. Not sure if it was good in this particular case, would have the check the replay carefully to know for sure.
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On December 18 2016 14:58 stuchiu wrote: I'd have like to see if a better micro Protoss would've won anyway. Oh well. this is the best micro toss in the highest skilled era. players of past years are low skill level compared to this.
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Looks like 2017 is gonna be the Return of the Machine. Again.
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On December 18 2016 15:01 Charoisaur wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2016 14:58 stuchiu wrote: I'd have like to see if a better micro Protoss would've won anyway. Oh well. this is the best micro toss in the highest skilled era. players of past years are low skill level compared to this. no one thinks stats is the micro toss
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On December 18 2016 15:00 Solar424 wrote: Innovation would never blow a 3-0 lead. He has this in the bag.
not sure if serious...
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United States32499 Posts
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Katowice25012 Posts
channel the spirit of soulkey
or effort
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I think the distraction just barely saved Inno since Stats charged head strong into two widow mines and lost everything, then again, 8 stimmed marines and a medivac would've probably secured the win without any risk attached.
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On December 18 2016 15:03 Waxangel wrote: REVERSE SWEEP
that's a sure way to get triggered
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On December 18 2016 15:01 ZigguratOfUr wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2016 14:59 Charoisaur wrote:On December 18 2016 14:56 TaKeTV wrote:On December 18 2016 14:54 EatingBomber wrote: Oh, nvm, the units tab showed it - 2 Medivacs at the very end and only one of them was present at the fight in INnoVation's natural.
Good god, he actually dared to drop 8 Marines with the 1 Medivac he had while facing an all-in. How good is he? usually thats what a good player does. He is aware that 8 marines probably don't make for hold or not but they can make a difference when being offensive when playing vs an allin it's usually not worth it to send units out to harass because you're already ahead just by holding the allin and if you don't hold the allin it doesn't matter if you kill 20 workers on the other side of the map because you have nothing to kill the army and lose. in this game it worked but I think if he kept all his units at home he would've won even easier. It does remove from your opponent the option of pulling back to regroup for another round of warp-ins before continuing the all-in, and puts pressure on them, so it isn't all bad. Not sure if it was good in this particular case, would have the check the replay carefully to know for sure. that's true but when he can't break you with his first push while a part of your army is on the other side of the map I don't think the allin would have any chance of working if all your units are at home even with additional warpins.
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what if soulkey was sitting in the front row right now, staring
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Canada8773 Posts
On December 18 2016 14:52 Topin wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2016 14:51 Nakajin wrote: The demon speed of INnovation is to good for Stats i didnt even notice, what was it?
The way he unburrow and burrow the mines against the void ray, only a true monster speed demon can do that.
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On December 18 2016 15:04 IshinShishi wrote: I think the distraction just barely saved Inno since Stats charged head strong into two widow mines and lost everything, then again, 8 stimmed marines and a medivac would've probably secured the win without any risk attached.
you're overthinking this. The bottom line is that Inno is almost good enough for GumBa to regain his passion
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On December 18 2016 15:04 Heyoka wrote: channel the spirit of soulkey
or effort
ggplay
life
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On December 18 2016 15:00 Solar424 wrote: Innovation would never blow a 3-0 lead. He has this in the bag. can't wait for Inno to fly 3 medivacs full of units into phoenixes.
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Italy2573 Posts
will Soulkey spirit try to fight a machine?
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On December 18 2016 15:05 negativedge wrote: what if soulkey was sitting in the front row right now, staring
that would mean that he has to actually show up for an event
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