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Intel Extreme Masters is South Korea-bound! As previously announced by Intel, StarCraft II will have its own stand-alone esports tournament ahead of the Olympic Winter Games 2018. The final event will take place in PyeongChang from February 5-7, 2018.
16 players, $150,000 on the line and the opportunity to be the first ever esports pros to step on a one-of-a-kind stage - what more is there to say! ESL and Intel are excited to unveil the regional open qualifiers, which are set to take place in December.
Event Slot Distribution
Sign up links and event dates:
Qualifier: North America - 2 Stages, 4 Slots
+ Show Spoiler +- Qualifier Stage #1: Thursday, Dec 07 2:00am GMT (GMT+00:00) (single elimination, Bo3, qualifying rounds Bo5)
- Qualifier Stage #2: Tuesday, Dec 12 2:00am GMT (GMT+00:00) (double elimination, Bo3, qualifying matches are Bo5)
Qualifier: South America - 2 Stages, 2 Slots
+ Show Spoiler +- Qualifier Stage #1: [unparsable timestamp format] (single elimination, Bo3, qualifying rounds Bo5)
- Qualifier Stage #2: [unparsable timestamp format] (double elimination, Bo3, qualifying matches are Bo5)
Qualifier: Europe - 2 Stages, 5 x 1 Slot
- EU North - Player Qualified: Serral
- EU East - Player Qualified: Bly
- EU South - Player Qualified: HeRoMaRinE
- EU West - Player Qualified: DnS
- EU Central - Player Qualified: Elazer
Qualifier: South Korea - 2 Stages, 2 Slots
+ Show Spoiler +- Qualifier Stage #1: Friday, Dec 22 9:00am GMT (GMT+00:00) (single elimination, Bo3, qualifying rounds Bo5)
- Qualifier Stage #2: Saturday, Dec 23 9:00am GMT (GMT+00:00) (double elimination, Bo3, qualifying matches are Bo5)
Qualifier: Asia West - 1 Stages, 1 Slots
+ Show Spoiler +- Qualifier Stage #1: [unparsable timestamp format] (single elimination, Bo3, qualifying match Bo5)
Qualifier: Asia East - 1 Stages, 1 Slots
+ Show Spoiler +- Qualifier Stage #1: Monday, Dec 11 9:00am GMT (GMT+00:00) (single elimination, Bo3, qualifying match Bo5)
- Player Qualified: Nice
Qualifier: Africa - 1 Stages, 1 Slots
+ Show Spoiler +- Qualifier Stage #1: Sunday, Dec 10 5:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) (single elimination, Bo3, qualifying match Bo5)
Qualifier: Australia & Oceania - 2 Stages, 1 Slots
+ Show Spoiler +- Qualifier Stage #1: Friday, Dec 08 7:00am GMT (GMT+00:00) (single elimination, Bo3, qualifying rounds Bo5)
- Qualifier Stage #2: Saturday, Dec 09 7:00am GMT (GMT+00:00) (double elimination, Bo3, qualifying match is Bo5, with 1:0 advantage for player on upper bracket)
Coverage:
Questions regarding eligibility:
Access the cup in which you think you should play (check the eligibility on the info tab) and click on the support Tab, you will be presented with a form to submit a support ticket.
Example: Europe Central Support Ticket Page: https://play.eslgaming.com/starcraft/global/sc2/major/masters/season-12-pyeongchang-europe-central-open-qualifier-stage-1/support
Tips to fill in the support ticket:
- Do not change anything on the Dropdown menus;
- Add a short and relevant subject;
- Describe your problems with as most as details as humanly possible.
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/IEM Season XII - PyeongChang
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For Qualifiers with 2 Stages:
The first stage will be played as a single elimination BO3, until the tournament reaches the RO16 at which point players will play a best of five series, and the winners will advance to stage two.
The second stage is a double elimination best of three bracket. In regions with one qualifier slot (Oceania, China, and Europe), the grand finals will be played as a BO5 series where the player from the winner’s side of the bracket will begin with a 1:0 lead, and the winner of the tournament will qualify for Intel Extreme Masters PyeongChang.
In regions with two qualifier slots (South Korea, North and South America), the upper bracket, lower bracket and grand finals will each be played as a standard best of 5 series, and both of the finalists will earn a coveted qualifier spot.
For Qualifiers with 1 Stage:
If 9 or more players enter the qualifiers in these regions, the tournament will be played as a single elimination BO3 bracket that concludes with a BO5 final. In the event 8 or fewer players enter, the tournament will be played in the same fashion as the two-stage tournaments above: Double elimination BO3 bracket with a BO5 final, where the player from the upper bracket begins with a 1:0 lead.
Source: https://www.eslgaming.com/article/announcing-2018-intel-extreme-masters-pyeongchang-qualifiers-3807
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Central Europe is gonna be a hell of a carnage. Already the sign up list is incredible ...
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On December 04 2017 03:32 opisska wrote: Central Europe is gonna be a hell of a carnage. Already the sign up list is incredible ... Korea will make Central Europe look like a kiddie pool.
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KR qualifier gonna be harder than blizzcon ...
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On December 04 2017 07:06 DieuCure wrote: KR qualifier gonna be harder than blizzcon ...
I sure hope not, otherwise won't be seeing Dark or Stats.
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How do we sign up? Having trouble signing up, says i don't meet the requirements. edit: nvm changed country
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You need a higher apm, Avilo.
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So is Russia banned from this too
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Are these qualifiers not being cast?
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Colour commentary on avilo vs Special by avilo.
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On December 07 2017 11:18 Boggyb wrote: Are these qualifiers not being cast?
They are not. Although, avilo is broadcasting his series vs special. Which, I'm sure, is the only series from this qualifier that we will get to see live.
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On December 07 2017 12:04 breaker1328 wrote:They are not. Although, avilo is broadcasting his series vs special. Which, I'm sure, is the only series from this qualifier that we will get to see live. puCK is also broadcasting his games.
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Canada8763 Posts
On December 07 2017 12:04 breaker1328 wrote:They are not. Although, avilo is broadcasting his series vs special. Which, I'm sure, is the only series from this qualifier that we will get to see live.
No one want to see that, like avilo said, Special is absolute garbage
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Canada8763 Posts
Wow Starkiller 3-0 NoRegret,does someone if it was a no show?
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On December 07 2017 12:45 Nakajin wrote: Wow Starkiller 3-0 NoRegret,does someone if it was a no show?
Not surprising, Starkiller is quite good and NoRegret playing on lag.
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kinda sucks main event overlaps with WESG NA finals. i dont see anyone from NA or South america forfeiting wesg na for iem. so unless something changes gonna be very lackluster participants from na / sa. its especially sad cause wesg na was announced for quite a bit and they didnt even notice until like today.
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On December 07 2017 23:31 Major wrote: kinda sucks main event overlaps with WESG NA finals. i dont see anyone from NA or South america forfeiting wesg na for iem. so unless something changes gonna be very lackluster participants from na / sa. its especially sad cause wesg na was announced for quite a bit and they didnt even notice until like today. Yeah really hope one of IEM or WESG NA can move their event by a week. Also they just announced DH Leipzig for WCS 2018 and the America qualifier is at the same time as IEM South America qual, wtf???
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Overlapping tournaments, 2012's thing
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why were switzerland and peru flags in the north american qualifier?
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On December 10 2017 14:12 mishimaBeef wrote: why were switzerland and peru flags in the north american qualifier?
PengWin has dual Swiss-American citizenship iirc. Presumably the Peruvian also meets either the citizenship or residency requirements for the qualifier.
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If there is a competitive SC2 player in Greenland, I'd definitely want to hear more from them!
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Serral, Namshar, Zanster and Snute are qualified for Stage 2!
NaNiwa is playing against hUed for a Stage 2 spot.
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Stephano vs Cort was basically a creep spread and abduct training map as expected.
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On December 11 2017 03:59 ZigguratOfUr wrote: Stephano vs Cort was basically a creep spread and abduct training map as expected. i guess that's what happens when you open hellions and don't move out until you have 10 of them into a mass queen defense (or when you don't research blue flame when you're playing mass hellion vs ling hydra)
stephano could have banked minerals, traded his army and made literally 100 mutas just for fun
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I know you have to hype it but, come on, HAS a legendary sc2 player ...
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On December 11 2017 14:35 DieuCure wrote: I know you have to hype it but, come on, HAS a legendary sc2 player ...
I think for the sheer fact that he tries what he tries in offline tournaments, gives him the legendary title, it is not for victories, it is because, if you are talking about SC2, you tell one or two Has stories.
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On December 11 2017 22:33 Sinistro wrote:Show nested quote +On December 11 2017 14:35 DieuCure wrote: I know you have to hype it but, come on, HAS a legendary sc2 player ... I think for the sheer fact that he tries what he tries in offline tournaments, gives him the legendary title, it is not for victories, it is because, if you are talking about SC2, you tell one or two Has stories. Nothing Has has done compares to doing the same cheese in consecutive games when playing for $100,000.
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On December 12 2017 01:40 djraphi23 wrote: Naniwa hype ! Look at the bright side, at least he took a series against Zanster before falling to Pappijoe.
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Due to WESG conflict, Jonsnow, Major, Scarlett and Neeb will not be competing, no response from replacements so bracket will updated accordingly.
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Really ? There is one day between WeSG America and IEM PyeongChang right ?
Sad, KR qualifier will be bloodbath and NA qualifier a cushion battle for as many spots ...
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That's so shitty. Who's the admin that decides this?
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What a joke. Possibly the last chance SC2 has to appeal to a mainstream audience and it gets run by the most incompetent organizer SC2 has. Maybe you should check a calendar to see when other tournaments are being run before you go and screw an entire region over. Between DH and IEM it seems like the only people who actually cared about SC2 are long gone, and all we have left are people using it to get goodwill with Blizzard. There really needs to be a player bill of rights or something so that organizers can't just go and announce qualifiers a week before they happen. DH and IEM have basically created a monopoly on offline events, and it only benefits them.
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Dissapointing to not have a chance to participate in the first pre olympics event
And the last it seems, it becomes a fiasco...
It's time to give one more spot to South Korea.
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Unless the sleeping admin was in a coma, not waking him was absolutely unacceptable.
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So it is going to be starkiller, Cham, puCK, and PandaBearMe? Contrats Cham for your IEM PyeongChang qualification.
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The 4 players left, so Cham, Puck, starkiller and PandaBearMe should boycott it, but it will not happened, and i understand why but ... Please ...
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Puck is apparently not playing.
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On December 12 2017 10:51 Soke wrote: Puck is apparently not playing. Lol yup, I forgot about this. 3 Player qualifier hype Nony replaces Neeb apparently. We 2011 boys
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Rofl, well it's time to swallow your pride dear admin, and fix it ...
Same thing will happen to SA anyway
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noregret isnt allowed to replace anyone cuz starkiller who eliminated him is still in
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On December 12 2017 10:59 Scarlett` wrote:noregret isnt allowed to replace anyone cuz starkiller who eliminated him is still in Does that mean avilo can replace SpeCial?
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On December 12 2017 11:00 Boggyb wrote:Show nested quote +On December 12 2017 10:59 Scarlett` wrote:noregret isnt allowed to replace anyone cuz starkiller who eliminated him is still in Does that mean avilo can replace SpeCial? maybe but he didnt follow streaming rules so i think he might have got dqd as well
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One spot for SA, one for NA and 4 for SK, problem solved
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Nony put up a pretty decent fight against Cham. I think he has a shot against anyone else.
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On December 12 2017 11:01 Scarlett` wrote:Show nested quote +On December 12 2017 11:00 Boggyb wrote:On December 12 2017 10:59 Scarlett` wrote:noregret isnt allowed to replace anyone cuz starkiller who eliminated him is still in Does that mean avilo can replace SpeCial? maybe but he didnt follow streaming rules so i think he might have got dqd as well Oh dear
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oh well i tried to play some decent games but these are all things im seeing for the first time. lurkers and brood lord and ravager. im still learning the game mechanics for blocking lings etc. pretty messy but that's what happens on first look
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On December 12 2017 14:15 NonY wrote: oh well i tried to play some decent games but these are all things im seeing for the first time. lurkers and brood lord and ravager. im still learning the game mechanics for blocking lings etc. pretty messy but that's what happens on first look I'm proud of ya still Nony
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New day, new qualifier folks, while all that was said above is already being handled by IEM Team, let's focus on what takes place today: EU East Stage 2, featuring some of the players that are with us since 2010! And EU South Stage 1:
Again, for those who didn't follow yet, the Stage 1 is not streamed, only the Stage 2.
EU East - Stage 2:
Bracket: https://play.eslgaming.com/starcraft/global/sc2/major/masters/season-12-pyeongchang-europe-east-open-qualifier-stage-2/rankings/
Stream: https://www.twitch.tv/ESL_SC2
Players: Bly, BRAT_OK, DIMAGA, Kas, Krr, Strange, Minato, Couguar
EU South - Stage 1:
Sign Up link: https://play.eslgaming.com/starcraft/global/sc2/major/masters/season-12-pyeongchang-europe-south-open-qualifier-stage-1/
Both begin at 18:00 CET
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Russian Federation54 Posts
Not again pls. I am cougUar not cougar. ) such a common mistake. cougar is animal. Couguar is half of my cat's family name
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You dont want to know what cougar means in French
e: ah, it's an anglicism, useless comment.
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BratOk and Kas game 1 has been about awful fights so far.
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HeroMarine in South Europe Qualifier?? O_O
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Italy2573 Posts
On December 13 2017 02:32 SNSeigifried wrote: HeroMarine in South Europe Qualifier?? O_O yeah, wtf?
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On December 13 2017 02:33 CynicalDeath wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2017 02:32 SNSeigifried wrote: HeroMarine in South Europe Qualifier?? O_O yeah, wtf? dual citizen, Germany and Italy
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On December 13 2017 02:32 SNSeigifried wrote: HeroMarine in South Europe Qualifier?? O_O There goes the outside shot of no Terran at IEM PyeongChang.
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Italy2573 Posts
On December 13 2017 02:35 Ctone23 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2017 02:33 CynicalDeath wrote:On December 13 2017 02:32 SNSeigifried wrote: HeroMarine in South Europe Qualifier?? O_O yeah, wtf? dual citizen, Germany and Italy didn't know that, thanks!
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Those dual citizenships are silly.
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On December 13 2017 00:09 Couguar wrote: Not again pls. I am cougUar not cougar. ) such a common mistake. cougar is animal. Couguar is half of my cat's family name
Fixed mate!
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We are going for our 4th day of European qualifiers, with 2 already completed (North and East) today we proceed with the stage 1 of the EU West and we will also find out who will join us in the main event coming from the EU South Stage 2!
Again, for those who didn't follow yet, the Stage 1 is not streamed, only the Stage 2.
EU South - Stage 2:
Bracket: https://play.eslgaming.com/starcraft/global/sc2/major/masters/season-12-pyeongchang-europe-south-open-qualifier-stage-2/rankings/
Stream: https://www.twitch.tv/ESL_SC2
Players: HeRoMaRinE NightEnD, Lightning, Nitix, ArchangeL, RuinBlaster, Vincent, and Ryosis
EU West - Stage 1:
Sign Up link: https://play.eslgaming.com/starcraft/global/sc2/major/masters/season-12-pyeongchang-europe-west-open-qualifier-stage-1/
Both begin at 18:00 CET
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Are there any english streams available?
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On December 13 2017 03:16 Yrr wrote: Those dual citizenships are silly. Why?
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So ESL stream is not even linked in the sidebar right now? when qualifiers are going on? that's so stupid. SC2 scene always harms itself instead of pulling together
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Why no Reynor in South Europe qualifiers?
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On December 14 2017 04:37 Duckman wrote: Why no Reynor in South Europe qualifiers? He can't participate until he turns 16
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On December 14 2017 03:18 Charoisaur wrote:Why? At least for sports competitions. Those people can choose whichever nationality they like most for the next competition. Doesnt seem fair to me.
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On December 14 2017 05:03 Yrr wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2017 03:18 Charoisaur wrote:On December 13 2017 03:16 Yrr wrote: Those dual citizenships are silly. Why? At least for sports competitions. Those people can choose whichever nationality they like most for the next competition. Doesnt seem fair to me.
Uh huh. If you have any brilliant proposals to maintain fairness for region locked qualifiers go ahead--these players are no less citizens than people who only have a single citizenship.
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On December 14 2017 05:39 ZigguratOfUr wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2017 05:03 Yrr wrote:On December 14 2017 03:18 Charoisaur wrote:On December 13 2017 03:16 Yrr wrote: Those dual citizenships are silly. Why? At least for sports competitions. Those people can choose whichever nationality they like most for the next competition. Doesnt seem fair to me. Uh huh. If you have any brilliant proposals to maintain fairness for region locked qualifiers go ahead--these players are no less citizens than people who only have a single citizenship.
Traditional sports force you to represent only one nationality which you cant change after your first apperance.
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On December 14 2017 05:42 Yrr wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2017 05:39 ZigguratOfUr wrote:On December 14 2017 05:03 Yrr wrote:On December 14 2017 03:18 Charoisaur wrote:On December 13 2017 03:16 Yrr wrote: Those dual citizenships are silly. Why? At least for sports competitions. Those people can choose whichever nationality they like most for the next competition. Doesnt seem fair to me. Uh huh. If you have any brilliant proposals to maintain fairness for region locked qualifiers go ahead--these players are no less citizens than people who only have a single citizenship. Traditional sports force you to represent only one nationality which you cant change after your first apperance.
Passport swapping happens all the time even at the Olympics. There's a three year limit, but that's about it.
Besides previous IEMs just had European qualifiers iirc, so this is the first time that there's a Southern Europe qualifier. So how is Heromarine's choice of playing in South Europe rather than Central Europe (for example) illegitimate?
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He played for Germany in Nationswars for example. I know those are different organisations. I dont mind him choosing italy or stephano tunisia. I just dont like them switching around whenever they like.
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On December 14 2017 06:05 Yrr wrote: He played for Germany in Nationswars for example. I know those are different organisations. I dont mind him choosing italy or stephano tunisia. I just dont like them switching around whenever they like.
Yes, like in football Jerome Boateng decided to play for Germany, while Kevin-Prince played for Ghana. Perfectly fine decisions and way better than them hopping around whenever. In international competition they're representatives of a country after all.
And that applies to FIFA, UEFA and CAF competitions equally.
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Wow Light doing it. IEM cursed not to get any terrans. Dunno why Heromarine stuck to only marine/marauder the entire time--a few widow mines or siege tanks would have closed things out with how far Heromarine was ahead.
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On December 14 2017 06:32 ZigguratOfUr wrote: Wow Light doing it. IEM cursed not to get any terrans. Dunno why Heromarine stuck to only marine/marauder the entire time--a few widow mines or siege tanks would have closed things out with how far Heromarine was ahead. Korean qualifiers will be after the patch, so there's still a chance.
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On December 14 2017 06:38 pvsnp wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2017 06:32 ZigguratOfUr wrote: Wow Light doing it. IEM cursed not to get any terrans. Dunno why Heromarine stuck to only marine/marauder the entire time--a few widow mines or siege tanks would have closed things out with how far Heromarine was ahead. Korean qualifiers will be after the patch, so there's still a chance.
Yeah also South America has two spots, so Kelazhur can make it even if he unaccountably loses to Erik.
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On December 14 2017 06:40 ZigguratOfUr wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2017 06:38 pvsnp wrote:On December 14 2017 06:32 ZigguratOfUr wrote: Wow Light doing it. IEM cursed not to get any terrans. Dunno why Heromarine stuck to only marine/marauder the entire time--a few widow mines or siege tanks would have closed things out with how far Heromarine was ahead. Korean qualifiers will be after the patch, so there's still a chance. Yeah also South America has two spots, so Kelazhur can make it even if he unaccountably loses to Erik. Kelazhur has the same problem Neeb/Special/Scarlett had, where he has to play in the WESG event that overlaps with IEM.
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On December 14 2017 06:44 Solar424 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2017 06:40 ZigguratOfUr wrote:On December 14 2017 06:38 pvsnp wrote:On December 14 2017 06:32 ZigguratOfUr wrote: Wow Light doing it. IEM cursed not to get any terrans. Dunno why Heromarine stuck to only marine/marauder the entire time--a few widow mines or siege tanks would have closed things out with how far Heromarine was ahead. Korean qualifiers will be after the patch, so there's still a chance. Yeah also South America has two spots, so Kelazhur can make it even if he unaccountably loses to Erik. Kelazhur has the same problem Neeb/Special/Scarlett had, where he has to play in the WESG event that overlaps with IEM. But not the exact same problem of getting dq'd, I hope.
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Let's get this show on the road folks! We are down to the last Stage 1 Qualifier for EU, this time the EU Central, including some of the best StarCraft II players from the whole region!
But not only that, today we also have the 2nd Stage of EU West with a beyond Stacked bracket (thankfully, it is double elimination!).
EU West - Stage 2:
Bracket: https://play.eslgaming.com/starcraft/global/sc2/major/masters/season-12-pyeongchang-europe-west-open-qualifier-stage-2/rankings/
Stream: https://www.twitch.tv/ESL_SC2
Players: PtitDrogo, DnS, Dayshi, Denver, FireCake, hinO, DeMusliM, and garitos
EU West - Central 2:
Sign Up link: https://play.eslgaming.com/starcraft/global/sc2/major/masters/season-12-pyeongchang-europe-central-open-qualifier-stage-1/
Both begin at 18:00 CET
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I don't know what DnS's PvT form is like these days, but if it is decent, I think he's probably the favorite to win the EU West spot.
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It will be fun to see some foreigners in the Polish qualifier ;-)
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Really glad to see Demuslim take one there, hoping he can keep it going
such a likable guy on stream Im really rooting for him
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wait fire "deadgame" cake is back?
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You know, I was thinking the map is quite unfair.
Any sensible person would look at a Risk map and see an ideal distribution:
3 players for Africa - I only see 2/3 (counting Mideast as Africa) 7 players for Asia - I only see 4/7 5 players for Europe - they did this correctly 2 players for S. America - they did this correctly 5 players for N. America - I only see 2/5 2 players for Australoceania - I only see 1/2.
If this isn't continentalist discrimination, I don't know what it is. At least cut back on Europe to 3-4 players.
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On December 15 2017 03:52 KR_4EVR wrote: Any sensible person would look at a Risk map and see an ideal distribution: No sensible person sees that as an ideal distribution.
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On December 15 2017 03:52 KR_4EVR wrote: You know, I was thinking the map is quite unfair.
Any sensible person would look at a Risk map and see an ideal distribution:
3 players for Africa - I only see 2/3 (counting Mideast as Africa) 7 players for Asia - I only see 4/7 5 players for Europe - they did this correctly 2 players for S. America - they did this correctly 5 players for N. America - I only see 2/5 2 players for Australoceania - I only see 1/2.
If this isn't continentalist discrimination, I don't know what it is. At least cut back on Europe to 3-4 players.
At least Europe's subdivisions broadly correspond. Should've rolled Korea into the Mongolian qualifier.
On December 15 2017 04:21 Boggyb wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2017 03:52 KR_4EVR wrote: Any sensible person would look at a Risk map and see an ideal distribution: No sensible person sees that as an ideal distribution.
I understand your confusion. You were trying to use a Starcraft RISK board, and creating qualifiers for the Aiur/Char/Korhal/Mar Sara/Shakuras/Zerus regions and assigning players to them is a bit difficult. I'd recommend using a vanilla RISK board, and the sensibility of the distribution becomes self-evident.
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On December 15 2017 04:22 ZigguratOfUr wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2017 03:52 KR_4EVR wrote: You know, I was thinking the map is quite unfair.
Any sensible person would look at a Risk map and see an ideal distribution:
3 players for Africa - I only see 2/3 (counting Mideast as Africa) 7 players for Asia - I only see 4/7 5 players for Europe - they did this correctly 2 players for S. America - they did this correctly 5 players for N. America - I only see 2/5 2 players for Australoceania - I only see 1/2.
If this isn't continentalist discrimination, I don't know what it is. At least cut back on Europe to 3-4 players. At least Europe's subdivisions broadly correspond. Should've rolled Korea into the Mongolian qualifier. Show nested quote +On December 15 2017 04:21 Boggyb wrote:On December 15 2017 03:52 KR_4EVR wrote: Any sensible person would look at a Risk map and see an ideal distribution: No sensible person sees that as an ideal distribution. I understand your confusion. You were trying to use a Starcraft RISK board, and creating qualifiers for the Aiur/Char/Korhal/Mar Sara/Shakuras/Zerus regions and assigning players to them is a bit difficult. I'd recommend using a vanilla RISK board, and the sensibility of the distribution becomes self-evident. Even with a proper RISK board you should find distributing 24 spots for a 16 player tournament difficult though.
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If you apply the logic of RISK to the SC2 world, it would be 12 SK, 2 Europeans, and 2 from the Americas.
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Good of Dayshi to remind us why mech vs. Protoss is a really, really bad idea.
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This is it folks, the last day of European qualifiers, a 8 man showdown in which only one advances to join Bly, Serral, HeroMarine and DnS! Who will advance from today's edition and secure himself a ticket for IEM PyeongChang?
EU Central - Stage 2:
Bracket: https://play.eslgaming.com/starcraft/global/sc2/major/masters/season-12-pyeongchang-europe-central-open-qualifier-stage-2/rankings/
Stream: https://www.twitch.tv/ESL_SC2
Players: Elazer, Guru, Harstem, Lambo, MaNa, Nerchio, ShoWTimE and uThermal
It begins at 18:00 CET
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That Nerchio vs Showtime game was crazy
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On December 16 2017 03:14 Ej_ wrote: That was a throw. Yeah but also abilities of protoss are just too insane
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I missed the second game what happened? I'm assuming thermy won if we're now on a break
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No gg because "abilities of terran are just too insane" Now in Elazer I trust, hopefully he won't go fullDrogo in final stage.
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On December 16 2017 04:55 Fango wrote: I missed the second game what happened? I'm assuming thermy won if we're now on a break unscouted 2 base allin vs 80 drones no bane speed
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of course no gg, it's Nerchio.
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Mismicro on both sides, not sure how viable 3rax reaper is
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On December 16 2017 04:57 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2017 04:55 Fango wrote: I missed the second game what happened? I'm assuming thermy won if we're now on a break unscouted 2 base allin vs 80 drones no bane speed
Ouch
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Nerchio ragequits vs uthermal who ragequits vs showtime
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I wonder how these fast drilling claw builds will look when widow mines build 33% faster.
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Not sure why uThermal went back to that same siege position after it didn't do much the first time. Showtime just countered it with the same flank he did the first time and smacked it down.
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On December 16 2017 05:50 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: Not sure why uThermal went back to that same siege position after it didn't do much the first time. Showtime just countered it with the same flank he did the first time and smacked it down.
Neon Violet's pretty open, so it's probably still the best siege position he could find.
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^ What I wanted to write. He seemed pretty close to breaking him and Showtime was really on point with the drop defense. Didn't seem like a bad idea to go for that kind of attack. Going into real late game was probably something he wanted to avoid.
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That seemed way too easy for Elazer
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Elazer is so sick. That was utter domination.
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Wow, that was some shutdown.
Every now and then Elazer just has these games that are completely insane. That was some Rogue-esque stuff there.
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Russian Federation28 Posts
HeroMarine ... What a shame to do it like this ...
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What was the name of this commentator? I like him, he's got a great voice.
EDIT: nvm just learned how to read.
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Wow really cool games from Scarlett there.
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So how was Scarlett vs Neeb?
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Horror show from Major in that game :S
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On December 17 2017 11:46 ZigguratOfUr wrote: So how was Scarlett vs Neeb?
Scarlett won the first one with a Nydus/Roach all-in, just barely failed with a ling rush in the second game, game 3 Scarlett went hard with lings again and after several attacks and a big sim city from Neeb she got through with a large Queen/ling/banedrop push.
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On December 17 2017 11:46 ZigguratOfUr wrote: So how was Scarlett vs Neeb? Game 1: Roach/Queen nydus, Scarlett wins Game 2: 12 pool drone rush, Neeb wins Game 3: Ling flood into Queen/Overlord drop push, Scarlett wins.
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On December 17 2017 11:46 ZigguratOfUr wrote: So how was Scarlett vs Neeb? all ins and fast games... pretty weird series
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that was brutal ... wp by Scarlett
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Scarlett dominated that first game. I'd be shocked if Major didn't swtich to mech from here on out.
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Damn, Scarlett is really embracing the meme games
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On December 17 2017 11:52 Topin wrote:all ins and fast games... pretty weird series
Isn't that how most Scarlett vs Neeb series go? I get the impression that the better she knows a player, the more she cheeses them which is a fun dynamic.
edit: All of MajOr's harass looked slightly off that game, not quite as crisp or decisive as it is usually, but it got the job done.
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On December 17 2017 11:57 ZigguratOfUr wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2017 11:52 Topin wrote:On December 17 2017 11:46 ZigguratOfUr wrote: So how was Scarlett vs Neeb? all ins and fast games... pretty weird series Isn't that how most Scarlett vs Neeb series go? I get the impression that the better she knows a player, the more she cheeses them which is a fun dynamic. edit: All of MajOr's harass looked slightly off that game, not quite as crisp or decisive as it is usually, but it got the job done. scarlett defended almost all the drops flawlessly, except the one in her 3rd that killed all the mineral line :/
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On December 17 2017 12:20 Topin wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2017 11:57 ZigguratOfUr wrote:On December 17 2017 11:52 Topin wrote:On December 17 2017 11:46 ZigguratOfUr wrote: So how was Scarlett vs Neeb? all ins and fast games... pretty weird series Isn't that how most Scarlett vs Neeb series go? I get the impression that the better she knows a player, the more she cheeses them which is a fun dynamic. edit: All of MajOr's harass looked slightly off that game, not quite as crisp or decisive as it is usually, but it got the job done. scarlett defended almost all the drops flawlessly, except the one in her 3rd that killed all the mineral line :/
I felt she got lucky for some of it. The first widow mine only got 4 drones, but that was just a matter of luck since she didn't react at all for example.
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Major's multitasking just way too strong. RIP Scarlett
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Wow mech is back in the meta, time for me to stop playing again.
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On December 17 2017 12:32 Solar424 wrote: Wow mech is back in the meta, time for me to stop playing again. Wow we'll miss you so much
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Basically the opposite of game 1.
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Scarlett had 0 swarmhosts and 1 Viper against mech.....and Special had 18 Vikings. Tbh I'm surprised she even managed to get off a PB at all. Also nowhere near enough Corruptors to cover the BL
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On December 17 2017 12:34 pvsnp wrote: Scarlett had 0 swarmhosts and 1 Viper against mech..... She tried for fast brood lords, which does make sense in theory, but they just weren't fast enough and the game was destined to snowball from there
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On December 17 2017 12:33 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2017 12:32 Solar424 wrote: Wow mech is back in the meta, time for me to stop playing again. Wow we'll miss you so much Mech just makes me feel completely hopeless whenever I have to play against it. Nothing screams fun like having your army wiped out by units you can't even see.
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On December 17 2017 12:34 pvsnp wrote: Scarlett had 0 swarmhosts and 1 Viper against mech.....and Special had 18 Vikings. Tbh I'm surprised she even managed to get off a PB at all. Also nowhere near enough Corruptors to cover the BL
It happens when you lose 80 workers to hellions.
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On December 17 2017 12:35 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2017 12:34 pvsnp wrote: Scarlett had 0 swarmhosts and 1 Viper against mech..... She tried for fast brood lords, which does make sense in theory, but they just weren't fast enough and the game was destined to snowball from there Yeah, Major scanned them and pulled back and BLs can't chase for jack shit. Then 3 Starports -> 18 Vikings and it's just gg
Personally I don't like BLs against mech. Weird as it sounds, mech can run rings around the BL deathball since BLs need hydras and corruptors and vipers for support. Rogue does the multiple-rapid-tech-switch thingy instead, and I think it's superior
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On December 17 2017 12:36 ZigguratOfUr wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2017 12:34 pvsnp wrote: Scarlett had 0 swarmhosts and 1 Viper against mech.....and Special had 18 Vikings. Tbh I'm surprised she even managed to get off a PB at all. Also nowhere near enough Corruptors to cover the BL It happens when you lose 80 workers to hellions. Hence why ultimately it was Major's multitasking that one him that game, because he was getting insane damage done. Hellions might be a little too good, frankly, but still
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On December 17 2017 12:35 Solar424 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2017 12:33 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:On December 17 2017 12:32 Solar424 wrote: Wow mech is back in the meta, time for me to stop playing again. Wow we'll miss you so much Mech just makes me feel completely hopeless whenever I have to play against it. Nothing screams fun like having your army wiped out by units you can't even see. There's a reason Blizz changed the game to favor it less for so long, most players feel the same way against it.
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On December 17 2017 12:37 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2017 12:36 ZigguratOfUr wrote:On December 17 2017 12:34 pvsnp wrote: Scarlett had 0 swarmhosts and 1 Viper against mech.....and Special had 18 Vikings. Tbh I'm surprised she even managed to get off a PB at all. Also nowhere near enough Corruptors to cover the BL It happens when you lose 80 workers to hellions. Hence why ultimately it was Major's multitasking that one him that game, because he was getting insane damage done. Hellions might be a little too good, frankly, but still Hellions haven't been changed since like 2014, right? (May 2014, just checked)
I mean banes and hydras counter hellions and both have been buffed since then. I don't see how hellions are the problem here.
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On December 17 2017 12:39 pvsnp wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2017 12:37 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:On December 17 2017 12:36 ZigguratOfUr wrote:On December 17 2017 12:34 pvsnp wrote: Scarlett had 0 swarmhosts and 1 Viper against mech.....and Special had 18 Vikings. Tbh I'm surprised she even managed to get off a PB at all. Also nowhere near enough Corruptors to cover the BL It happens when you lose 80 workers to hellions. Hence why ultimately it was Major's multitasking that one him that game, because he was getting insane damage done. Hellions might be a little too good, frankly, but still Hellions haven't been changed since like 2014, right? I mean banes and hydras counter hellions and both have been buffed since then. I don't see how hellions are the problem here.
They did get smart servos making them a bit better, but yeah don't think I've heard that hellions were too good before.
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On December 17 2017 12:40 ZigguratOfUr wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2017 12:39 pvsnp wrote:On December 17 2017 12:37 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:On December 17 2017 12:36 ZigguratOfUr wrote:On December 17 2017 12:34 pvsnp wrote: Scarlett had 0 swarmhosts and 1 Viper against mech.....and Special had 18 Vikings. Tbh I'm surprised she even managed to get off a PB at all. Also nowhere near enough Corruptors to cover the BL It happens when you lose 80 workers to hellions. Hence why ultimately it was Major's multitasking that one him that game, because he was getting insane damage done. Hellions might be a little too good, frankly, but still Hellions haven't been changed since like 2014, right? I mean banes and hydras counter hellions and both have been buffed since then. I don't see how hellions are the problem here. They did get smart servos making them a bit better, but yeah don't think I've heard that hellions were too good before. Personal taste thing. But I'm also a salty scarlett fan so idk
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On December 17 2017 12:40 ZigguratOfUr wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2017 12:39 pvsnp wrote:On December 17 2017 12:37 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:On December 17 2017 12:36 ZigguratOfUr wrote:On December 17 2017 12:34 pvsnp wrote: Scarlett had 0 swarmhosts and 1 Viper against mech.....and Special had 18 Vikings. Tbh I'm surprised she even managed to get off a PB at all. Also nowhere near enough Corruptors to cover the BL It happens when you lose 80 workers to hellions. Hence why ultimately it was Major's multitasking that one him that game, because he was getting insane damage done. Hellions might be a little too good, frankly, but still Hellions haven't been changed since like 2014, right? I mean banes and hydras counter hellions and both have been buffed since then. I don't see how hellions are the problem here. They did get smart servos making them a bit better, but yeah don't think I've heard that hellions were too good before. Funny that hellions are brought up though, Inno has been trying a new hellion-heavy build (or old? a new old build) on stream and I haven't seen a Zerg beat it yet
Oh, and gratz to Neeb for that sick strat in Game 1! A well-deserved victory there.
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On December 17 2017 12:42 pvsnp wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2017 12:40 ZigguratOfUr wrote:On December 17 2017 12:39 pvsnp wrote:On December 17 2017 12:37 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:On December 17 2017 12:36 ZigguratOfUr wrote:On December 17 2017 12:34 pvsnp wrote: Scarlett had 0 swarmhosts and 1 Viper against mech.....and Special had 18 Vikings. Tbh I'm surprised she even managed to get off a PB at all. Also nowhere near enough Corruptors to cover the BL It happens when you lose 80 workers to hellions. Hence why ultimately it was Major's multitasking that one him that game, because he was getting insane damage done. Hellions might be a little too good, frankly, but still Hellions haven't been changed since like 2014, right? I mean banes and hydras counter hellions and both have been buffed since then. I don't see how hellions are the problem here. They did get smart servos making them a bit better, but yeah don't think I've heard that hellions were too good before. Funny that hellions are brought up though, Inno has been trying a new hellion-heavy build (or old? a new old build) on stream and I haven't seen a Zerg beat it yet Oh, and gratz to Neeb for that sick strat in Game 1! A well-deserved victory there.
People say foreigners aren't good at preparation, but Neeb showing us that he's a cut above the rest by preparing that kill-switch for the Korea house's internet.
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On December 17 2017 12:48 ZigguratOfUr wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2017 12:42 pvsnp wrote:On December 17 2017 12:40 ZigguratOfUr wrote:On December 17 2017 12:39 pvsnp wrote:On December 17 2017 12:37 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:On December 17 2017 12:36 ZigguratOfUr wrote:On December 17 2017 12:34 pvsnp wrote: Scarlett had 0 swarmhosts and 1 Viper against mech.....and Special had 18 Vikings. Tbh I'm surprised she even managed to get off a PB at all. Also nowhere near enough Corruptors to cover the BL It happens when you lose 80 workers to hellions. Hence why ultimately it was Major's multitasking that one him that game, because he was getting insane damage done. Hellions might be a little too good, frankly, but still Hellions haven't been changed since like 2014, right? I mean banes and hydras counter hellions and both have been buffed since then. I don't see how hellions are the problem here. They did get smart servos making them a bit better, but yeah don't think I've heard that hellions were too good before. Funny that hellions are brought up though, Inno has been trying a new hellion-heavy build (or old? a new old build) on stream and I haven't seen a Zerg beat it yet Oh, and gratz to Neeb for that sick strat in Game 1! A well-deserved victory there. People say foreigners aren't good at preparation, but Neeb showing us that he's a cut above the rest by preparing that kill-switch for the Korea house's internet.
He prepared a full computer crash. That's even more impressive.
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that archon animation was really cool
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Scarlett lost a shocking amount for basically nothing there? Like 40 supply, did we miss a move command?
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I still can't get over how fast lurkers can teleport into the ground.
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steroids upgrade for lurkers
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Upgraded lurkers are strong but I don't think they are broken, at least not that I've seen yet
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On December 17 2017 13:08 pvsnp wrote: Upgraded lurkers are strong but I don't think they are broken, at least not that I've seen yet
Yeah the hive tech makes it just about fair. It's still disconcerting though.
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Man I wish Zerg had a harassment unit even half as good as hellions or adepts
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On December 17 2017 13:16 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: Man I wish Zerg had a harassment unit even half as good as hellions or adepts
I think they're called zerglings.
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On December 17 2017 13:16 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: Man I wish Zerg had a harassment unit even half as good as hellions or adepts
Zerglings are good I heard
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At lower levels they rarely seem to be great, but at higher levels there can still be a good window for Protoss to do damage before Lurkers, and even before Hive. And, for harassing with them, they usually require Overlords which tends to be a big investment if it doesn't win the game. I can see either argument, but I think upgraded Lurkers put just enough pressure on Protoss right now.
Also, Oracles and Adepts are still strong. @_@;;
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Zerglings aint that good ya'll. Especially since you have to use them defensively to deal with the adepts!
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On December 17 2017 13:20 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: Zerglings aint that good ya'll. Especially since you have to use them defensively to deal with the adepts! Cracklings runbys are insanely good, cost-efficient like nothing else
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On December 17 2017 13:18 Fango wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2017 13:16 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: Man I wish Zerg had a harassment unit even half as good as hellions or adepts Zerglings are good I heard at forcing Protoss to make Shield Batteries I fixed your sentence. (jk ofc... well, mostly jk )
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On December 17 2017 13:20 pvsnp wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2017 13:20 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: Zerglings aint that good ya'll. Especially since you have to use them defensively to deal with the adepts! Cracklings runbys are insanely good When you can do a crackling runby before the 5 minutes mark let me know
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On December 17 2017 13:20 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: Zerglings aint that good ya'll. Especially since you have to use them defensively to deal with the adepts!
The best defense is a good ling drop.
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On December 17 2017 13:21 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2017 13:20 pvsnp wrote:On December 17 2017 13:20 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: Zerglings aint that good ya'll. Especially since you have to use them defensively to deal with the adepts! Cracklings runbys are insanely good When you can do a crackling runby before the 5 minutes mark let me know If it's earlygame you're complaining about, try dropping the lings
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Weak reaction from Neeb. He should've known that was coming after scouting the late third.
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On December 17 2017 13:22 pvsnp wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2017 13:21 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:On December 17 2017 13:20 pvsnp wrote:On December 17 2017 13:20 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: Zerglings aint that good ya'll. Especially since you have to use them defensively to deal with the adepts! Cracklings runbys are insanely good When you can do a crackling runby before the 5 minutes mark let me know If it's earlygame you're complaining about, try dropping the lings Oh I do, but you can prevent a drop with good scouting. Even if you scout adepts they're getting some drone kills.
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On December 17 2017 13:23 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2017 13:22 pvsnp wrote:On December 17 2017 13:21 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:On December 17 2017 13:20 pvsnp wrote:On December 17 2017 13:20 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: Zerglings aint that good ya'll. Especially since you have to use them defensively to deal with the adepts! Cracklings runbys are insanely good When you can do a crackling runby before the 5 minutes mark let me know If it's earlygame you're complaining about, try dropping the lings Oh I do, but you can prevent a drop with good scouting. Even if you scout adepts they're getting some drone kills. I dunno what to say man, forumgoers told me PvZ is at 40% because of ling drops
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Last game! Plz no PC crash! >_<
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It's kinda funny that people are still confused about how the squares work at this point. Kaelaris and Tod weren't sure about whether you could drop the tanks between the cubes too.
It's just a one by one grid which doesn't allow archons, ultralisks, thors and tanks.
I'm just glad the cubes that blocked off the pocket base were removed, since they didn't do anything except lock in ultralisk that were produced at the hatch there.
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was there an explanation on why the hydra and lurker den buildings were separated?
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Holy cow that went so much better than I thought it would.
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On December 17 2017 13:33 Topin wrote: was there an explanation on why the hydra and lurker den buildings were separated? So you could get the hydra upgrade and lurker den at same time. Lurker den buld time is like ten minutes
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Welp that's an unceremonious end.
On December 17 2017 13:33 Topin wrote: was there an explanation on why the hydra and lurker den buildings were separated?
I think it was something to do with a lurker den snipe crippling zerg tech for several lunar cycles before it finishes rebuilding.
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On December 17 2017 13:33 Topin wrote: was there an explanation on why the hydra and lurker den buildings were separated? It makes you spend a little more resources (structure cost plus a Drone), allows you to reach Lurkers faster if you want (build at the same time), and is just another way to design/balance things that is very "Zerg-y". I like it, personally as a Zerg player, and I think it works well overall. It also gives the team more things to tweak if things need to be nerfed/buffed, which I also like from a design perspective.
*Oh, yeah, and it isn't as bad if you lose the Den. A lot of things.
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I feel bad for Neeb. Maybe Lurkers were the unit I was looking for :O
Grats to SCarlett though. I'm so excited to see her at IEM
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Game run down from the 2 series they played. game 1 nydus scarlett wins g2 drone pull neeb wins g3 ling drop scarlett wins g4 bane bust neeb wins g5 roach all in scarlett wins g6 neeb goes for adept timing neeb wins g7 scarlett gets to late game she wins g8 lurker drop scarlett wins
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So no neeb at iem? I hope Scarlett can do as well as neeb normally does and wins the whole thing
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On December 17 2017 14:49 sudete wrote: So no neeb at iem? I hope Scarlett can do as well as neeb normally does and wins the whole thing
I would be very suprised if Scarlett or Neeb were able to win IEM. Getting to the ro4 would be a solid achievement
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On December 18 2017 02:44 Fango wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2017 14:49 sudete wrote: So no neeb at iem? I hope Scarlett can do as well as neeb normally does and wins the whole thing I would be very suprised if Scarlett or Neeb were able to win IEM. Getting to the ro4 would be a solid achievement
Compared to who's going, I would have been surprised if Neeb didn't make ro4 had he made. However, with Scarlett, I would say ro8. I haven't seen the consistency against foreigners that I've seen with Neeb.
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On December 18 2017 06:56 FrkFrJss wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2017 02:44 Fango wrote:On December 17 2017 14:49 sudete wrote: So no neeb at iem? I hope Scarlett can do as well as neeb normally does and wins the whole thing I would be very suprised if Scarlett or Neeb were able to win IEM. Getting to the ro4 would be a solid achievement Compared to who's going, I would have been surprised if Neeb didn't make ro4 had he made. However, with Scarlett, I would say ro8. I haven't seen the consistency against foreigners that I've seen with Neeb.
He could have met SpeCial or one of the koreans in the ro8 and lost there. Otherwise I don't think he could have fallen to anyone else.
Apparently Scarlett can get the best of him though. I do think Scarlett is still one of the top foreigers, she had underwhelming results in WCS but iirc she was losing almost exclusively to other zergs. Her performances in GSL were probably more impressive than any of the other foreigners there
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United States97248 Posts
I can't believe Kela dropped a map in the SA qualifiers
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Canada8763 Posts
Tod and Kealaris night cast are always the best
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Tod and Kealaris night cast are always the best They are indeed good and funny. But they are also unprofessional. I don't mind really but it is not what they should be doing.
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It's a qualifier not an actual tournament. I like what they are doing. Well except for the long break earlier.
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On December 18 2017 09:12 Kafka777 wrote:They are indeed good and funny. But they are also unprofessional. I don't mind really but it is not what they should be doing. a sports caster's profession is entertaining people, so what constitutes professionalism is a matter of personal taste. if you follow football or baseball many commentators will be blunt and edgy whereas many others will be subdued and stoic. same as if you listen to radio programs, some are wild and crazy while some are serious and refined. it's just personal taste.
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gratz eggz and kela
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a sports caster's profession is entertaining people, so what constitutes professionalism is a matter of personal taste. if you follow football or baseball many commentators will be blunt and edgy whereas many others will be subdued and stoic. same as if you listen to radio programs, some are wild and crazy while some are serious and refined. it's just personal taste
Not exactly. They just didn't do well in all situations. Irrespective of what the taste. But overall they are good and funny. Taking into consideration this is a (from a certain point of view) irrelevant qualifier with relatively unknown players, perhaps its appropriate.
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im in seoul the next 8 days. are they hosting the korea qualifiers anywhere and can i go watch? the dec 22 and 23 qualifiers.
Thanks
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On December 19 2017 21:01 krazymunky wrote: im in seoul the next 8 days. are they hosting the korea qualifiers anywhere and can i go watch? the dec 22 and 23 qualifiers.
Thanks
I am afraid you won't have anything to watch while being in SeouL, the KR Qualifiers will be held online, just like all the previous qualifiers.
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Gsl qualifiers are soon too, I don't know if you can attend though
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On December 20 2017 00:18 DieuCure wrote: Gsl qualifiers are soon too, I don't know if you can attend though
just saw the schedule . I leave morning of the 26th . same day as the first day of qualifiers.
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On December 20 2017 17:20 krazymunky wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2017 00:18 DieuCure wrote: Gsl qualifiers are soon too, I don't know if you can attend though just saw the schedule . I leave morning of the 26th . same day as the first day of qualifiers. I don't think qualifiers are open to the public–they are played in a PC bang. If you know one of the players you could probably get in though.
Moot point, I suppose.
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im in seoul the next 8 days. are they hosting the korea qualifiers anywhere and can i go watch? the dec 22 and 23 qualifiers.
Thanks
GSL Season 1 Qualifiers Offline Event: Date: December 26th(Tuesday)-27th(Wednesday) 2017 (KST) Location: AfreecaTV PC Bang, Hongik University, Seoul
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On December 20 2017 22:46 Kafka777 wrote:Show nested quote +im in seoul the next 8 days. are they hosting the korea qualifiers anywhere and can i go watch? the dec 22 and 23 qualifiers.
Thanks GSL Season 1 Qualifiers Offline Event: Date: December 26th(Tuesday)-27th(Wednesday) 2017 (KST) Location: AfreecaTV PC Bang, Hongik University, Seoul Qualifiers are not open to the public I think.
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The world is cheering for you Cure !
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Why do Protosses so often put their cybernetics core as the middle building of their wall when the side buildings have less surface area and are generally safer? I guess if you just construct them in the regular order it's easier to place them this way without risking misplacing them, but still. I've seen a few games hinge on how fast lings sniped the cyber core.
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On December 22 2017 18:27 ZigguratOfUr wrote: Why do Protosses so often put their cybernetics core as the middle building of their wall when the side buildings have less surface area and are generally safer? I guess if you just construct them in the regular order it's easier to place them this way without risking misplacing them, but still. I've seen a few games hinge on how fast lings sniped the cyber core. Hey, it has more health than gateways, it can take the extra hits for the team.
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On December 22 2017 18:31 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On December 22 2017 18:27 ZigguratOfUr wrote: Why do Protosses so often put their cybernetics core as the middle building of their wall when the side buildings have less surface area and are generally safer? I guess if you just construct them in the regular order it's easier to place them this way without risking misplacing them, but still. I've seen a few games hinge on how fast lings sniped the cyber core. Hey, it has more health than gateways, it can take the extra hits for the team.
That's true. And since if you survive the first wave, you'll be chrono-ing it enabling it to regen shields faster in preparation for the next wave.
And daed stream?
edit: Oh it's back.
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sOs vs. Dark for Bo.5 and no stream, great.
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On December 22 2017 18:51 Alarak89 wrote: sOs vs. Dark for Bo.5 and no stream, great.
really? :>
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On December 22 2017 18:51 Alarak89 wrote: sOs vs. Dark for Bo.5 and no stream, great.
The disconnect gods have granted your wish.
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On December 22 2017 18:51 Alarak89 wrote: sOs vs. Dark for Bo.5 and no stream, great. ...it's literally on stream now
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On December 22 2017 18:57 starkiller123 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 22 2017 18:51 Alarak89 wrote: sOs vs. Dark for Bo.5 and no stream, great. ...it's literally on steam now How did valve get the rights for that though
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Dark seems to like seeing Protosses take the gold on BotB. It gives him more space to pull them apart.
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Most of these stage 2 qualifying matches are looking real good.
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On December 22 2017 19:07 Elentos wrote: Most of these stage 2 qualifying matches are looking real good. In theory, because in practice sOs vs Dark is awful so far
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On December 22 2017 19:08 Durnuu wrote:Show nested quote +On December 22 2017 19:07 Elentos wrote: Most of these stage 2 qualifying matches are looking real good. In theory, because in practice sOs vs Dark is awful so far Beautiful storm drop though
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On December 22 2017 19:08 Durnuu wrote:Show nested quote +On December 22 2017 19:07 Elentos wrote: Most of these stage 2 qualifying matches are looking real good. In theory, because in practice sOs vs Dark is awful so far I didn't mean this one
Zerglings > Artosis pylon
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sOs is getting murdered by Dark. Not unexpected, but I was hoping for more from sOs since he hadn't played many games post patch, and would have the preparation advantage.
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On December 22 2017 19:09 ZigguratOfUr wrote: sOs is getting murdered by Dark. Not unexpected, but I was hoping for more from sOs since he hadn't played many games post patch, and would have the preparation advantage. But he's playing the greatest Bo11 player of all time. He never stood a chance in a series longer than 1 game
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Cure really unlucky to play against herO in the first round...
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On December 22 2017 19:12 DieuCure wrote: Cure really unlucky to play against herO in the first round... Yeah herO was probably the only player with a >0% chance of winning
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Interesting that sOs is going adepts every game... This can't be a sound opening though.
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On December 22 2017 19:17 ZigguratOfUr wrote: Interesting that sOs is going adepts every game... This can't be a sound opening though. Reminiscent of his PvT in 2016
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On December 22 2017 19:18 Durnuu wrote:Show nested quote +On December 22 2017 19:17 ZigguratOfUr wrote: Interesting that sOs is going adepts every game... This can't be a sound opening though. Reminiscent of his PvT in 2016 Also his PvZ in 2016.
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He didn't do too well in 2016 all told
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The best player is out because of bo3, it's pretty sad, but at least there is some suspense now
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ToD clearly hasn't watched enough ONPOONG since he's surprised by how aggressive Dark is being.
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On December 22 2017 19:25 Heartland wrote: Is there a stream?
Yes, sidebar !
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Dark really likes his ling-bane-ravager. It seems a little bit worse than ling-bane-hydra against what sOs is going for, but I guess it's probably quite good against colossus?
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Billowy eliminated Stats - so far biggest surprise(apart from GOAT Cure losing)
Dark vs sOs seems to be going into ace match
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On December 22 2017 19:30 killerm12 wrote: Billowy eliminated Stats - so far biggest surprise(apart from GOAT Cure losing)
Dark vs sOs seems to be going into ace match
Biggest surprise was Creator over Maka obviously.
edit: I admire sOs's optimism with his builds. Getting a 6:20 fourth base off of a handful of oracles that are aggressively using there energy on the other side of the map could have gone so much worse.
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This blink micro is so poorly thought-out
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Bunny beat Rogue :-O
better nerf terran, obviously too stronk
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I pity whoever has to observe this game.
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What a bizarre game. They should invite sOs to ONPOONG if Dark flukes his way past Cure.
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The best defense player ever, what a god.
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I'm OK with Cure's sacrifice if TY and Maru are in
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On December 22 2017 19:52 DieuCure wrote: I'm OK with Cure's sacrifice if TY and Maru are in
Maru's as good as ded, he plays herO next
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On December 22 2017 19:51 ZigguratOfUr wrote: What a bizarre game. They should invite sOs to ONPOONG if Dark flukes his way past Cure. I think bizarre is an adequate description. Mostly it was a whole bunch of what the fuck moments because Dark just randomly rallied shit in random places. It's like he lost his grip on reality midway through. He had no armor upgrades but still made 20 ultras against Protoss.
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On December 22 2017 19:55 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On December 22 2017 19:51 ZigguratOfUr wrote: What a bizarre game. They should invite sOs to ONPOONG if Dark flukes his way past Cure. I think bizarre is an adequate description. Mostly it was a whole bunch of what the fuck moments because Dark just randomly rallied shit in random places. It's like he lost his grip on reality midway through. He had no armor upgrades but still made 20 ultras against Protoss.
The way sOs somehow succeeds in dragging his opponents down to his level so often is quite remarkable.
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Thanks, didn't see it on the list
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dark wtf
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It's already looking grim for Maru. Going for the half-base on Neon Violet feels so bad unless your build's limiting factor is gas which is definitely not the case for bio.
edit: Yeah that's what I expected from a 1.2x mineral patch differential.
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Wow that felt a bit sad to watch. Sure Marus mine opening did almost zero damage but Hero took a third base and still smashed Maru that havent event started his third.
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soO made it at least, good thing getting 2nd would be enough
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what the fuck was that base trade
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That game was SO close. Maru should go for the nexus.
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No ByuN
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This is worst than the blink era by a large margin.
User was temp banned for this post.
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On December 22 2017 20:42 PlokoonSC wrote: This is worst than the blink era by a large margin. Lol yeah protoss is so broken, winning only one match vs terran E : sorry, two, creator also won vs Maka, very unexpected
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So Maru isnt our saviour
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Austria24413 Posts
IEM KR qualifiers are the best
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Lol yeah protoss is so broken, winning only one match vs terran E : sorry, two, creator also won vs Maka, very unexpected
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Austria24413 Posts
Using your first two posts on balance whine bodes well for your TL forum career
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I want to believe herO and Zest are just much better atm.
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nothing really changes, does it?
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If Zest's attack was 3 seconds later he would have lost
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So the korean PvT meta is to simply make gateway units and kill the terran.
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Something's gonna change if you keep making these posts
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France12466 Posts
How did Bunny trash Rogue?
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On December 22 2017 21:14 Poopi wrote: How did Bunny trash Rogue? All his units get +10 attack +20 hp when playing off-stream
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On December 22 2017 21:14 Poopi wrote: How did Bunny trash Rogue? Rogue is a patchzerg and Bunny a god
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I wonder what Plokoon makes of this
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so anyone care to figure out what these terrans are doing wrong?
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On December 22 2017 21:24 shadymmj wrote: so anyone care to figure out what these terrans are doing wrong? They're not playing off-stream
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this is ridiculous. Not even entertaining to watch.
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Wow korean PvT is not anymore a match-up but a scheduled slaughter :/
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Stats, TY and Solar all out FeelsBadMan
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On December 22 2017 21:25 ilikeredheads wrote: this is ridiculous. Not even entertaining to watch.
the lack of zerg does hurt, but its not as bad as you make it to be
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On December 22 2017 21:24 shadymmj wrote: so anyone care to figure out what these terrans are doing wrong? They need slightly worse opponents
I'm serious actually. Zest's play was close to flawless in the early game and early mid-game. His timing in game 1 obliterated a quarter of TY's army 3 seconds before stim was done (which would have likely turned the entire fight around). In game 2 TY's entire build falls flat because Zest blind walls the reaper cliff and responds perfectly to everything. In game 3, even with no map vision, he stops all of TY's harass; then he has charge ready for the combat shields push and destroys that, and only after he got a huge lead from that did he start to take harass damage.
And Maru had to decide quicker in game 3 if he wanted to kill the nexus or fight the army.
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With the PvP of Zest vs herO in round 1 we made sure winner and loser bracket will get wrecked by Protoss.
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Wow Zerg really got shrekt today. Protoss on the other hand....
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beside esl_sc2 channel, what other caster covered this qualifier? i want to see the vods later
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On December 22 2017 23:33 Topin wrote: beside esl_sc2 channel, what other caster covered this qualifier? i want to see the vods later Nobody.
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It was a sad sad day one !
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So many 3:0's today, hopefully stage 2 will be more interesting.
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It's looking like either Inno, herO, Zest, or Classic gonna make it. Would be great to see soO though
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INno and soO since TY and Cure aren't there.
I would be disappointed if Gumiho managed to do it.
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How does Stephano gets qualified in Africa ?
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On December 23 2017 06:18 FFW_Rude wrote: How does Stephano gets qualified in Africa ?
He's a Tunisian citizen. He also did the same thing for last year's WESG.
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On December 23 2017 06:18 FFW_Rude wrote: How does Stephano gets qualified in Africa ?
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It is very honourable if you are Tunisian.
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L A N D E D
V I K I N G S
Doing something for the first time ever
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Has INno played yet please? the liquipedia bracket doesn't seem to match what I can see on the screen
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On December 23 2017 18:56 Edpayasugo wrote: Has INno played yet please? the liquipedia bracket doesn't seem to match what I can see on the screen He lost in the first round to GuMiho and then beat Bunny in LB, waiting for a match atm.
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Time to decide the best Protoss atm.
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soO.. ):
Go Ho for racial diversity I guess
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On December 23 2017 20:30 Penev wrote: soO.. ):
Go Ho for racial diversity I guess Don't worry, foreigners are bringing some Zerg firepower. Africa's finest.
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Well ToD, you'd rather have the ghost start with EMP than with cloak.
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Australia18228 Posts
Super late game TvP this will be interesting
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Only way to come back right now is to pray really hard to get 30 lib ssomehow
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I swear if I ever hear protoss players whine this patch..
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On December 23 2017 22:25 Nerchio wrote: I swear if I ever hear protoss players whine this patch..
Harstem and HerO said they thought toss was too strong does that count?
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On December 23 2017 22:25 Nerchio wrote: I swear if I ever hear protoss players whine this patch.. Even when playing against a pretty good zerg race?
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On December 23 2017 22:25 Nerchio wrote: I swear if I ever hear protoss players whine this patch.. Removal of MSC is so unfair now protoss can't defend anything and dealing with harassment is way too hard.
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Well, the only two top level Koreans who can fail enough to lose to the foreigners after crushing a qualifier.
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I was originally thinking that the qualifier redo (and ignoring SpeCial acting like a dick) was motivated by a desire to have the game appear somewhat balanced in terms of race representations, but now I'm thinking they were worried about there being ANY Terran in the event. TIME winning the China qualifier was not a sure thing and I doubt anyone knew that HeRoMaRinE was secretly Italian, so they were possibly one bad qualifier from South Korean Terran players away from having SC2 look like WC2.
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Saw replays of the KR qualifier being reviewed on a stream-- are those publicly available? Can anyone link me to them please? TY
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Australia18228 Posts
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On December 23 2017 06:23 ZigguratOfUr wrote:Show nested quote +On December 23 2017 06:18 FFW_Rude wrote: How does Stephano gets qualified in Africa ? He's a Tunisian citizen. He also did the same thing for last year's WESG.
Didn't know he had double citizenship.
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