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is it me or round robin and bo5 series is just too much for only second group stage? did any tournament before had used this system?
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3 bo5s sounds reallly tiring. Although I'm always down for longer series
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Italy2573 Posts
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On March 15 2018 01:54 phodacbiet wrote: So many Zergs :/ Terrans and Protoss should really try sucking less, I hear its a good strategy
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On March 15 2018 02:03 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:Terrans and Protoss should really try sucking less, I hear its a good strategy
P much. I've often wondered what it'd look like if the likes of Serral or Neeb went Terran and stuck with it
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On March 15 2018 02:06 Myrddrael wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2018 02:03 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:On March 15 2018 01:54 phodacbiet wrote: So many Zergs :/ Terrans and Protoss should really try sucking less, I hear its a good strategy P much. I've often wondered what it'd look like if the likes of Serral or Neeb went Terran and stuck with it
They'd probably be decent but nowhere near champion contenders. They switched for a reason.
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Yeah Serral switched from Terran for a reason.
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On March 15 2018 02:39 Fango wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2018 02:06 Myrddrael wrote:On March 15 2018 02:03 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:On March 15 2018 01:54 phodacbiet wrote: So many Zergs :/ Terrans and Protoss should really try sucking less, I hear its a good strategy P much. I've often wondered what it'd look like if the likes of Serral or Neeb went Terran and stuck with it They'd probably be decent but nowhere near champion contenders. They switched for a reason. Given Serral mechanics he would be fine as terran at the same time INno is doing well.
For Neeb, he would have improved had he stayed terran but hard to say if he would have dominated 2017 as much.
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groups tomorrow should be more interesting, Group A especially looks extremely one-sided
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I'm a Juanito fan, but today... andiamo reynor!
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damn Reynor playing great
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Italia! Italia! Italia! :D
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Reynor playing great but Special looking pretty bad as well. Funny to see he's still losing harassing units all over the place because he just forgets about them
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Not the major we're used to seeing, but Raynor is playing really well. Kid's impressive
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wow Reynor! im ready to get on on that hype train
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Italiaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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wow i totally forgot this was a Bo5
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On March 15 2018 12:49 Obamarauder wrote: reynor will beat classic
If he does, I'll lose it.
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On March 15 2018 12:56 Fran_ wrote: what am I watching??? SpeCial getting wrecked.
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Canada8755 Posts
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If this is considered 'the best foreign Terran', it's truly a sad state
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Well, can't say I saw that one coming, but there it is. Well done Reynor.
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that was super impressive
thou Special's play wasn't super impressive
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Italiaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!
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On March 15 2018 12:59 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: Foreign Terrans man
Italians do it better
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On March 15 2018 12:49 Obamarauder wrote: reynor will beat classic
Please no. The balance whine will be insane.
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On March 15 2018 13:03 Kalera wrote:Please no. The balance whine will be insane. there are no brakes in this hype train
edit: now SpeCial vs Dark??!!! omg G_G
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On March 15 2018 13:07 Topin wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2018 13:03 Kalera wrote:On March 15 2018 12:49 Obamarauder wrote: reynor will beat classic Please no. The balance whine will be insane. there are no brakes in this hype train edit: now SpeCial vs Dark??!!! omg G_G Here's my ticker... chooo chooo
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If Special doesn't make it we're likely to see 5 zergs in the ro8.. I hope he makes it through because I can't stand watching zvz.
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On March 15 2018 13:01 Fran_ wrote:Italians do it better I'm one quarter Italian so I will take some pride in this
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BUILD A FUCKING MARAUDER YOU MORON!
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Going out on a limb here and guessing that 4 orbitals before production is not the best idea.
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On March 15 2018 13:32 LongShot27 wrote: BUILD A FUCKING MARAUDER YOU MORON! xd
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I just want to know how tf Special lost 0-3 to Reynor...if he doesn't go 0-3 vs Dark that'd be the upset of the century.
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Twitch chat is talking about Specials mother passing aways, does someone know if it's more then the usual Twitch chat trolling?
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On March 15 2018 13:54 mierin wrote: I just want to know how tf Special lost 0-3 to Reynor...if he doesn't go 0-3 vs Dark that'd be the upset of the century.
reynor was always a good player. he didnt gain recognition since he is/was too young to play in WCS and many other tournaments
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On March 15 2018 13:58 Obamarauder wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2018 13:54 mierin wrote: I just want to know how tf Special lost 0-3 to Reynor...if he doesn't go 0-3 vs Dark that'd be the upset of the century. reynor was always a good player. he didnt gain recognition since he is/was too young to play in WCS and many other tournaments
I'm forever a zerg fanboy so I am cheering for Reynor :D just checking.
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Dark vs Special game 1-3: the gap is completely closed.
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On March 15 2018 14:01 usopsama wrote: Dark vs Special game 1-3: the gap is completely closed.
I think the gap thing doesn't even go into effect today...0-3 vs. a foreign Zerg. I think he just had a terrible day.
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Lol, let's not read too much into this as a reflection of the gap, special is already clearly having an off day and Dark's ZvT is borderline perfect.
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I completely agree. uThermal, Nice, Reynor, puCK, Elazer, Semper, and TIME also had a terrible/off day yesterday when the Koreans destroyed them 14-1 in map score.
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On March 15 2018 14:05 usopsama wrote: I completely agree. uThermal, Nice, Reynor, puCK, Elazer, Semper, and TIME also had a terrible/off day yesterday when the Koreans destroyed them 14-1 in map score.
I'm totally on board with Koreans being better. I was just saying Special in particular seemed to be noticeably underperforming compared to how he usually plays.
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On March 15 2018 13:54 mierin wrote: I just want to know how tf Special lost 0-3 to Reynor...if he doesn't go 0-3 vs Dark that'd be the upset of the century.
Because he's been the most overhyped foreigner for the past 8 years?
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On March 15 2018 14:09 LongShot27 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2018 13:54 mierin wrote: I just want to know how tf Special lost 0-3 to Reynor...if he doesn't go 0-3 vs Dark that'd be the upset of the century. Because he's been the most overhyped foreigner for the past 8 years?
All foreigners are overhyped IMO. It's just that Special vs. Reynor didn't turn out remotely the way I thought it would.
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Rotterdam looks tired as hecker
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On March 15 2018 14:16 FataLe wrote: Rotterdam looks tired as hecker
Why in every tournament he casts does everyone thinks Rotterdam is sick? He looks like a normal human being to me.
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I like Reynor's opening....
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Italiaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa! Reynor! Reynor! Reynor!
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rofl I wake up a bit later and come to that result...
Did Special forget to make ravens?
Beating a semi-retired iasonu is expected though.
On March 15 2018 12:49 Obamarauder wrote: reynor will beat classic Looked pretty outclassed against him earlier.
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Celebrate with mom, celebrate with the ref Nice win.
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Still great to see younger players making a splash.
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reynor wont beat dark or maru but he will definitely beat classic if they meet in later brackets
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On March 15 2018 15:07 Obamarauder wrote: reynor wont beat dark or maru but he will definitely beat classic if they meet in later brackets Just like how he beat Classic 2-0 yesterday, oh wait.
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On March 15 2018 15:10 usopsama wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2018 15:07 Obamarauder wrote: reynor wont beat dark or maru but he will definitely beat classic if they meet in later brackets Just like how he beat Classic 2-0 yesterday, oh wait.
he already advanced by winning 1 match. he's going to bring his A game now
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Sometimes the hype gets a bit silly.
I guess reality will hit eventually.
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Special... That rage quit
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dark skill checking Raynor in game 1
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On March 15 2018 15:12 Obamarauder wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2018 15:10 usopsama wrote:On March 15 2018 15:07 Obamarauder wrote: reynor wont beat dark or maru but he will definitely beat classic if they meet in later brackets Just like how he beat Classic 2-0 yesterday, oh wait. he already advanced by winning 1 match. he's going to bring his A game now The A game he is bringing against Dark is so strong. You can really see the gap closing.
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On March 15 2018 15:41 usopsama wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2018 15:12 Obamarauder wrote:On March 15 2018 15:10 usopsama wrote:On March 15 2018 15:07 Obamarauder wrote: reynor wont beat dark or maru but he will definitely beat classic if they meet in later brackets Just like how he beat Classic 2-0 yesterday, oh wait. he already advanced by winning 1 match. he's going to bring his A game now The A game he is bringing against Dark is so strong. You can really see the gap closing.
Sarcasm looks ugly.
Anyway, I don't see Reynor winning a game here. He just isn't quite accurate enough with his ling/bling micro and against a monster like Dark, it really shows.
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SpeCial's actually going to go 0-9... oh he has a 50 supply lead game 3, shouldn't lose this one
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Fun game 2 between Dark and Reynor, impressive to see Dark holding on with just ling/bane and queens lol
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Even if Reynor loses 0-3 here, I'm actually impressed.
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He should have never run into the main! I wonder what would've happened if he just killed the third.
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On March 15 2018 15:55 blooblooblahblah wrote: He should have never run into the main! I wonder what would've happened if he just killed the third.
Yeah, I wondered that too. My guess is that this is the type of play that'll probably get smoothed out as he plays more top players.
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I have found a new way to annoy people on the ladder. *-*
Thank you Raynor!
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On March 15 2018 16:12 D-light wrote: Cute moves not enough.
No, but they got him way further into that game than I ever would have imagined. Pretty fun game, I thought!
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I feel like that build never actually fulfills its purpose. Like at what point are you going to find so many overlords together so far away from the enemy army that you kill enough that a supply block is meaningful?
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On March 15 2018 15:57 FrostedMiniWheats wrote: wtf happened Special --; He did not play seriously in game 1 and game 2 against iasonu, even rage quit in game 1.
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On March 15 2018 16:16 chipmonklord17 wrote: I feel like that build never actually fulfills its purpose. Like at what point are you going to find so many overlords together so far away from the enemy army that you kill enough that a supply block is meaningful?
It kept some of Dark's units at home and it kept Dark remaking overlords that could have been army units. Considering how dead Reynor was looking at that point, I'd say it worked out pretty well.
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yikes, Reynor got Serral'd by Dark
just a rite of passage before becoming WCS circuit champion
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Australia18228 Posts
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On March 15 2018 16:22 Waxangel wrote:yikes, Reynor got Serral'd by Dark just a rite of passage before becoming WCS circuit champion I guess we'll just have to wait for that championship for a while now.
Since Raynor still needs to hit 10k mmr and become the #1 aligulac player.
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I knew Special would have troubles beating Reynor but this is embarassing.
Is TvZ that hard nowadays?
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On March 15 2018 01:52 CynicalDeath wrote: go Reynor! yayyy
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On March 15 2018 16:43 Poopi wrote: I knew Special would have troubles beating Reynor but this is embarassing.
Is TvZ that hard nowadays? he just seemed very off, i dont think the race mattered
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Good game by uThermal, that mine drop to open up the wall for the hellions was really cool
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omg, if Thermy pulls a 3-0 comeback :O ..
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Wow. The title of best player in the world is slipping out of Classic's grasp so fast since Katowice.
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On March 15 2018 17:15 FrostedMiniWheats wrote: omg, if Thermy pulls a 3-0 comeback :O ..
I heard this morning on the stream that uThermal is in his best form, so there is a big chance to put up a good fight agaisnt Classic and maybe also beat Neeb.
About Special, seeing the 2 0-3 scores, I thought he was late or something for the event, did not imagine he could actually lose 6 games to, no offense to anyone, but somehow up and coming, unknown players.(even if I know at least Reynor)
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uThermal is so dangerous sometimes, really like how he's played the last couple games.
I feel like Classic should go back to going blink though, it worked well earlier, and it's a good way to get into the later part of the game where Classic is obviously favoured.
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Nice start so far for Uthermal...it might happen
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Why did you shade in Classic wtf
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If only Classic lost and we would've gotten all three Koreans on the same side of the bracket.
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build a fucking depot wall you silver league Terran shit
User was warned for this post.
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Full foreigner has never been a truer description.
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If only he had a full wall....
WP Classic
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ladies and gentry the gap
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On March 15 2018 17:35 blooblooblahblah wrote: If only he had a full wall....
WP Classic
And if he hadn't botched the attack that badly.
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On March 15 2018 17:35 FataLe wrote: ladies and gentry the gap nice pun :D
Neeb vs Classic up!. Let`s go.
If feel kinda bad that I root so much against classic, I just don`t like him for no reason.
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On March 15 2018 17:33 D-light wrote: If only Classic lost and we would've gotten all three Koreans on the same side of the bracket.
naaah if Foreigner want to go in final they have to earn it
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On March 15 2018 18:37 Mun_Su wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2018 17:33 D-light wrote: If only Classic lost and we would've gotten all three Koreans on the same side of the bracket. naaah if Foreigner want to go in final they have to earn it Not if apollo has anything to do with it.
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On March 15 2018 17:56 jarodtou wrote:nice pun :D Neeb vs Classic up!. Let`s go. If feel kinda bad that I root so much against classic, I just don`t like him for no reason. Jealous of all that manly chin?
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How was Neeb vs Classic? Thought it would be a close game as it's Neebs best matchup.
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Is uthermal legit the best foreigner? I haven't seen the games but his results are crazy.
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On March 15 2018 19:24 Fango wrote: Is uthermal legit the best foreigner? I haven't seen the games but his results are crazy. No. He's horrible. Just ask uthermal.
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On March 15 2018 19:20 Meeii wrote: How was Neeb vs Classic? Thought it would be a close game as it's Neebs best matchup.
Not close. There's no shame because if Neeb has a chance vs Classic he would have top korean level PvP.
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On March 15 2018 19:20 Meeii wrote: How was Neeb vs Classic? Thought it would be a close game as it's Neebs best matchup. Pretty one-sided. Classic good in PvP.
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Is Neeb vs uThermal coming up next? Or is it being played off stream?
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Wardi and Lowko make for a great duo. I am not a fan of either solo, but they have some nice chemistry. Nice job
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On March 15 2018 19:56 JWD[9] wrote:Wardi and Lowko make for a great duo. I am not a fan of either solo, but they have some nice chemistry. Nice job Yeah solo-casting can be a bit tricky for most.
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Almost a flawless game by Classic to end it.
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On March 15 2018 20:18 D-light wrote: Almost a flawless game by Classic to end it.
To be fair he did play someone a lot worse than him.
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Kevin looks as if he is so allergic to something
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On March 15 2018 20:35 Heartland wrote: Kevin looks as if he is so allergic to something starcraft
D:
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uthermal should take the series unless he lets the curse gets to him mentally.
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On March 15 2018 20:44 Penev wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2018 20:35 Heartland wrote: Kevin looks as if he is so allergic to something starcraft D:
It's like being allergic to cats, it sucks for you but you are not getting out of loving it just because your body hates you.
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On March 15 2018 20:34 Heartland wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2018 20:18 D-light wrote: Almost a flawless game by Classic to end it. To be fair he did play someone a lot worse than him. Yup. Not saying that it would've been an amazing feat. Just pretty neat even with the skill difference since the game did last a bit.
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Uthermal playing so well lately, he deserves a decent results at this tournament
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On March 15 2018 21:14 Hephaistas89 wrote: Uthermal playing so well lately, he deserves a decent results at this tournament making a lot of mistakes this map though
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On March 15 2018 21:14 Hephaistas89 wrote: Uthermal playing so well lately, he deserves a decent results at this tournament rip
full tilt
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Could be Maru as the lone Terran in the ro8, yet again..
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I'm worried he's gone into full tilt. That game was really weird and he even lost a base and 17 SCVs to zealots...
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On March 15 2018 21:21 FrostedMiniWheats wrote: Could be Maru as the lone Terran in the ro8, yet again.. If only our foreigner terrans played like Maru.
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On March 15 2018 21:21 FrostedMiniWheats wrote: Could be Maru as the lone Terran in the ro8, yet again..
I mean, in a tournament where we only have 1 Korean Terran, that result isn't that surprising,
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Come on uThermal, do it for yurop
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How on earth was Neeb tricked into taking that position? He's been quite sloppy in all his games
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On March 15 2018 21:30 Heartland wrote: How on earth was Neeb tricked into taking that position? He's been quite sloppy in all his games M-m-m...
+ Show Spoiler +
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What was that fight, neeb...
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finally a scan before going in
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Wait, what, the game is not over?
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uThermal might commit twitter sudoku if he loses this game
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uthermal was thinking about what to tweet after game. what a mental collapse.
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On March 15 2018 21:40 Heartland wrote: What is happening?! extreme politeness, they both want to gift the game
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The life of a foreigner terran.
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That blink defense reminded of Arium vs Revival WCS America Season 3 Game 3.
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Can Maru save terran for the third event in a row?
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man I feel sorry for uThermal
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On March 15 2018 21:46 Fango wrote: Can Maru save terran for the third event in a row? Yes.
Though technically you can put quotation marks on that "save".
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Watching Rotterdam's chair shake makes me think of a dog wagging its tail.
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On March 15 2018 21:46 Fango wrote: Can Maru save terran for the third event in a row? Let's see what Maru can do against Classic in the finals.
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Neeb looking miserable after securing minimum 10k winnings? Huh...
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lol at the baywatch shirt
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Man I always forget how much money is actually on the line here.
Losing in this tournament really hurts.
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On March 15 2018 21:50 sudete wrote: Neeb looking miserable after securing minimum 10k winnings? Huh... It's the talking with other people part that makes him miserable.
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On March 15 2018 21:52 D-light wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2018 21:50 sudete wrote: Neeb looking miserable after securing minimum 10k winnings? Huh... It's the talking with other people part that makes him miserable. I mean the fact that she is wearing a shirt with baywatch babes on her chest makes it really unfair tbh.
The interview is bound to turn awkward. Neeb did really well too I'd say, he definitely improved a lot over the years.
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Slightly sad neither uThermal nor SpeCial could complete their dreams today, maybe next tournament!
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I find it really odd that there isn't one consistent foreign Terran. There is only so many times you can watch them get pummeled before it gets really boring.
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On March 16 2018 00:44 RoflStomped wrote: I find it really odd that there isn't one consistent foreign Terran. There is only so many times you can watch them get pummeled before it gets really boring.
There aren't many consistent Korean terrans right now tbf.
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Reynor what a god
France getting nervous for nation wars :D
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On March 16 2018 01:02 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote: Reynor what a god
France getting nervous for nation wars :D We have a zerg and a protoss in our team so we will be fine
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It's a shame we don't have more people watching WESG... Streamers like Winter had more viewers last night. WESG is such a huge event in China and the production quality reflects that.
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On March 16 2018 01:32 geokilla wrote: It's a shame we don't have more people watching WESG... Streamers like Winter had more viewers last night. WESG is such a huge event in China and the production quality reflects that.
WESG is getting screwed with the Achievement Hunt event pulling viewers away. Apparently watching streamers play campaign is more compelling than Group Stage 1 of a tournament plagued with behind-the-scenes issues. Also time zones really reflect this too - tournament day doesnt start until 11pm EST, which is tough for NA audience, and really early for EU audience, especially during the week.
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On March 16 2018 01:32 geokilla wrote: It's a shame we don't have more people watching WESG... Streamers like Winter had more viewers last night. WESG is such a huge event in China and the production quality reflects that.
The event hasn't been hugely promoted (at least not to english speaking viewers). Also view times are bad for both EU and NA.
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On March 16 2018 01:37 vult wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2018 01:32 geokilla wrote: It's a shame we don't have more people watching WESG... Streamers like Winter had more viewers last night. WESG is such a huge event in China and the production quality reflects that. WESG is getting screwed with the Achievement Hunt event pulling viewers away. Apparently watching streamers play campaign is more compelling than Group Stage 1 of a tournament plagued with behind-the-scenes issues. Also time zones really reflect this too - tournament day doesnt start until 11pm EST, which is tough for NA audience, and really early for EU audience, especially during the week.
as EU resident, I can't watch it during the week. too bad...
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Every WESG tournament has low viewership though, it's the same for CS and HS.
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On most of the tournament's channels there are tournaments every months etc, so many more followers etc than once a year + low interest before the playoff because of the disparity
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