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On May 02 2018 22:22 Poopi wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2018 22:20 deacon.frost wrote:On May 02 2018 22:12 Fango wrote:On May 02 2018 22:09 deacon.frost wrote:On May 02 2018 22:07 Fango wrote: Feel so bad for ByuL getting the best PvZ player in the ro32 :/ some of the other groups were so much weaker. Yeah, that first game definitelly was looking like a best PvZ player out there... or Stats Rogue, the best PvZ player looked a league bellow Rogue... c'mon Name one protoss who is better vZ right now. I would go with Classic over Stats ATM. Stats obviously was strong since he got into GSL finals, but at the moment he doesn't look like the best PvZ player out there. The thing is that Stats never looks strong The thing is that Rogue outclassed him so much Arty cursed Rogue with him winning the GSL.
Edit> I give him the 2 last games where he turtled into superior position(doesn't help Byul doing some wierd de cisions in the 3rd game). That was really a perfect play, but the 3 PvZs before it was bad. Fine, underestimated Byul in the 1st game, but got smashed twice by Rogue? Yeah, no.
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On May 02 2018 22:20 deacon.frost wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2018 22:12 Fango wrote:On May 02 2018 22:09 deacon.frost wrote:On May 02 2018 22:07 Fango wrote: Feel so bad for ByuL getting the best PvZ player in the ro32 :/ some of the other groups were so much weaker. Yeah, that first game definitelly was looking like a best PvZ player out there... or Stats Rogue, the best PvZ player looked a league bellow Rogue... c'mon Name one protoss who is better vZ right now. I would go with Classic over Stats ATM. Stats obviously was strong since he got into GSL finals, but at the moment he doesn't look like the best PvZ player out there. Classic has notoriously weak PvZ compared to his other match-ups. This year his bank account is missing a few 100k because of that.
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On May 02 2018 22:20 deacon.frost wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2018 22:12 Fango wrote:On May 02 2018 22:09 deacon.frost wrote:On May 02 2018 22:07 Fango wrote: Feel so bad for ByuL getting the best PvZ player in the ro32 :/ some of the other groups were so much weaker. Yeah, that first game definitelly was looking like a best PvZ player out there... or Stats Rogue, the best PvZ player looked a league bellow Rogue... c'mon Name one protoss who is better vZ right now. I would go with Classic over Stats ATM. Stats obviously was strong since he got into GSL finals, but at the moment he doesn't look like the best PvZ player out there. Classic is better vT and maybe vP. But his vZ is a massive weak point. He said himself he loses to Zerg every time.
In fact almost all of classic's recent loses are to Dark, Serral, or rogue.
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On May 02 2018 22:15 MarianoSC2 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2018 22:12 Fango wrote:On May 02 2018 22:09 deacon.frost wrote:On May 02 2018 22:07 Fango wrote: Feel so bad for ByuL getting the best PvZ player in the ro32 :/ some of the other groups were so much weaker. Yeah, that first game definitelly was looking like a best PvZ player out there... or Stats Rogue, the best PvZ player looked a league bellow Rogue... c'mon Name one protoss who is better vZ right now. Neeb? Neeb definitely has good PvZ, too bad he didn't try for GSL this season (or did he lose to Hurricane again?).
Stats showed again and again why he is the best PvZ player in longer series. A sloppy bo3 or two won't change that.
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On May 02 2018 22:24 deacon.frost wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2018 22:22 Poopi wrote:On May 02 2018 22:20 deacon.frost wrote:On May 02 2018 22:12 Fango wrote:On May 02 2018 22:09 deacon.frost wrote:On May 02 2018 22:07 Fango wrote: Feel so bad for ByuL getting the best PvZ player in the ro32 :/ some of the other groups were so much weaker. Yeah, that first game definitelly was looking like a best PvZ player out there... or Stats Rogue, the best PvZ player looked a league bellow Rogue... c'mon Name one protoss who is better vZ right now. I would go with Classic over Stats ATM. Stats obviously was strong since he got into GSL finals, but at the moment he doesn't look like the best PvZ player out there. The thing is that Stats never looks strong The thing is that Rogue outclassed him so much Arty cursed Rogue with him winning the GSL. Rogue also 4-0'd classic though?
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On May 02 2018 22:24 deacon.frost wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2018 22:22 Poopi wrote:On May 02 2018 22:20 deacon.frost wrote:On May 02 2018 22:12 Fango wrote:On May 02 2018 22:09 deacon.frost wrote:On May 02 2018 22:07 Fango wrote: Feel so bad for ByuL getting the best PvZ player in the ro32 :/ some of the other groups were so much weaker. Yeah, that first game definitelly was looking like a best PvZ player out there... or Stats Rogue, the best PvZ player looked a league bellow Rogue... c'mon Name one protoss who is better vZ right now. I would go with Classic over Stats ATM. Stats obviously was strong since he got into GSL finals, but at the moment he doesn't look like the best PvZ player out there. The thing is that Stats never looks strong The thing is that Rogue outclassed him so much Arty cursed Rogue with him winning the GSL. Maybe Rogue would have started tilting at 3-1 had it been a BO7
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Classic's losses to Zerg happened when the PvZ match up was extremely Zerg favored, so I'm not sure how much I'd read into that.
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On May 02 2018 22:26 Fango wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2018 22:24 deacon.frost wrote:On May 02 2018 22:22 Poopi wrote:On May 02 2018 22:20 deacon.frost wrote:On May 02 2018 22:12 Fango wrote:On May 02 2018 22:09 deacon.frost wrote:On May 02 2018 22:07 Fango wrote: Feel so bad for ByuL getting the best PvZ player in the ro32 :/ some of the other groups were so much weaker. Yeah, that first game definitelly was looking like a best PvZ player out there... or Stats Rogue, the best PvZ player looked a league bellow Rogue... c'mon Name one protoss who is better vZ right now. I would go with Classic over Stats ATM. Stats obviously was strong since he got into GSL finals, but at the moment he doesn't look like the best PvZ player out there. The thing is that Stats never looks strong The thing is that Rogue outclassed him so much Arty cursed Rogue with him winning the GSL. Rogue also 4-0'd classic though? I don't remember it being such difference like this. If Stats is trully the best than PvZ is in even worse position than I think... (and I still don't think Stats is the best to offer)
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On May 02 2018 22:25 leublix wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2018 22:15 MarianoSC2 wrote:On May 02 2018 22:12 Fango wrote:On May 02 2018 22:09 deacon.frost wrote:On May 02 2018 22:07 Fango wrote: Feel so bad for ByuL getting the best PvZ player in the ro32 :/ some of the other groups were so much weaker. Yeah, that first game definitelly was looking like a best PvZ player out there... or Stats Rogue, the best PvZ player looked a league bellow Rogue... c'mon Name one protoss who is better vZ right now. Neeb? Neeb definitely has good PvZ, too bad he didn't try for GSL this season (or did he lose to Hurricane again?). He wasn't in Korea for the qualifiers I'm pretty sure.
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On May 02 2018 22:27 deacon.frost wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2018 22:26 Fango wrote:On May 02 2018 22:24 deacon.frost wrote:On May 02 2018 22:22 Poopi wrote:On May 02 2018 22:20 deacon.frost wrote:On May 02 2018 22:12 Fango wrote:On May 02 2018 22:09 deacon.frost wrote:On May 02 2018 22:07 Fango wrote: Feel so bad for ByuL getting the best PvZ player in the ro32 :/ some of the other groups were so much weaker. Yeah, that first game definitelly was looking like a best PvZ player out there... or Stats Rogue, the best PvZ player looked a league bellow Rogue... c'mon Name one protoss who is better vZ right now. I would go with Classic over Stats ATM. Stats obviously was strong since he got into GSL finals, but at the moment he doesn't look like the best PvZ player out there. The thing is that Stats never looks strong The thing is that Rogue outclassed him so much Arty cursed Rogue with him winning the GSL. Rogue also 4-0'd classic though? I don't remember it being such difference like this. If Stats is trully the best than PvZ is in even worse position than I think... (and I still don't think Stats is the best to offer) Because it's impossible that Stats had a bad day right?
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On May 02 2018 22:29 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2018 22:27 deacon.frost wrote:On May 02 2018 22:26 Fango wrote:On May 02 2018 22:24 deacon.frost wrote:On May 02 2018 22:22 Poopi wrote:On May 02 2018 22:20 deacon.frost wrote:On May 02 2018 22:12 Fango wrote:On May 02 2018 22:09 deacon.frost wrote:On May 02 2018 22:07 Fango wrote: Feel so bad for ByuL getting the best PvZ player in the ro32 :/ some of the other groups were so much weaker. Yeah, that first game definitelly was looking like a best PvZ player out there... or Stats Rogue, the best PvZ player looked a league bellow Rogue... c'mon Name one protoss who is better vZ right now. I would go with Classic over Stats ATM. Stats obviously was strong since he got into GSL finals, but at the moment he doesn't look like the best PvZ player out there. The thing is that Stats never looks strong The thing is that Rogue outclassed him so much Arty cursed Rogue with him winning the GSL. Rogue also 4-0'd classic though? I don't remember it being such difference like this. If Stats is trully the best than PvZ is in even worse position than I think... (and I still don't think Stats is the best to offer) Because it's impossible that Stats had a bad day right? AND THAT'S WHY I WROTE THERE ATM.
Edit> And I still believe that the best having a bad day shouldn't look this easy
Edit2 > FFS are you guys reading waht I'm writing or just jumping at me because I touched your PvZ god who has fallen?
And Edit3> I'm out, I wrote my things and I don't have the time nor the will to do some e-penis measuring contest
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On May 02 2018 22:19 juicyjames wrote: Was any of this recommended?
I personally enjoyed Byul vs. Rogue, it was a great ZvZ series, one of the better ones you can get in this matchup. The rest of the games were moreorless meh, anything with eMotion was, sadly, an outright stomp.
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patience clearly has the best PvZ, he even beat scarlett
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On May 02 2018 22:27 Boggyb wrote: Classic's losses to Zerg happened when the PvZ match up was extremely Zerg favored, so I'm not sure how much I'd read into that.
Then again Classic does well whenever balance favors protoss so it cancels out.
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On May 02 2018 23:34 Lexender wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2018 22:27 Boggyb wrote: Classic's losses to Zerg happened when the PvZ match up was extremely Zerg favored, so I'm not sure how much I'd read into that. Then again Classic does well whenever balance favors protoss so it cancels out. It would be pretty fucking awkward if one of the best Protoss players in the world didn't do well when Protoss was strong, wouldn't it?
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On May 03 2018 00:30 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2018 23:34 Lexender wrote:On May 02 2018 22:27 Boggyb wrote: Classic's losses to Zerg happened when the PvZ match up was extremely Zerg favored, so I'm not sure how much I'd read into that. Then again Classic does well whenever balance favors protoss so it cancels out. It would be pretty fucking awkward if one of the best Protoss players in the world didn't do well when was Protoss was strong, wouldn't it?
Well maru only does well when his race struggles. usually its innovation that takes the show
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On May 03 2018 00:31 Obamarauder wrote:Show nested quote +On May 03 2018 00:30 Ej_ wrote:On May 02 2018 23:34 Lexender wrote:On May 02 2018 22:27 Boggyb wrote: Classic's losses to Zerg happened when the PvZ match up was extremely Zerg favored, so I'm not sure how much I'd read into that. Then again Classic does well whenever balance favors protoss so it cancels out. It would be pretty fucking awkward if one of the best Protoss players in the world didn't do well when was Protoss was strong, wouldn't it? Well maru only does well when his race struggles. usually its innovation that takes the show He won OSL and SSL when Terran was doing perfectly fine, which mind you were his only tournament wins until this year. No big ups or downs for long periods of time just, very consistent independent of the meta, especially in HotS. He doesn't "only do well when his race has a hard time", he doesn't fall off as hard as the other Terrans do.
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On May 03 2018 01:21 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On May 03 2018 00:31 Obamarauder wrote:On May 03 2018 00:30 Ej_ wrote:On May 02 2018 23:34 Lexender wrote:On May 02 2018 22:27 Boggyb wrote: Classic's losses to Zerg happened when the PvZ match up was extremely Zerg favored, so I'm not sure how much I'd read into that. Then again Classic does well whenever balance favors protoss so it cancels out. It would be pretty fucking awkward if one of the best Protoss players in the world didn't do well when was Protoss was strong, wouldn't it? Well maru only does well when his race struggles. usually its innovation that takes the show He won OSL and SSL when Terran was doing perfectly fine, which mind you were his only tournament wins until this year. No big ups or downs for long periods of time just, very consistent independent of the meta, especially in HotS. He doesn't "only do well when his race has a hard time", he doesn't fall off as hard as the other Terrans do. Maru doesn't only do well when terran is bad. But he sure has a habit of being the best whenever terran is worst. Late 2013-14 and early 2018 being the biggest examples. Either he plays better when terran sucks or he's just more independent of balance.
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First Keen and now ByuL those two could have advance but fell short
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Lol, another group, another round of soO-jokes in the interviews. Hope they do highlights when the season ends.
Sad to see ByuL go out. He looked like a Ro16 player, just makes you even more pissed that Patience advance from that fuckfest.
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