SoS has a really good chance of going through first. Only risk is if he goes heavy DT's against Stats. Due to his safe and stable nature.But I am pretty sure his Lotv record against Stats is pretty decent. Luckily Stats is paired up against Byun. With the marauder buff Byun's micro is not something I want SoS to run into. I'll say SoS goes first with Stats in second.
On June 02 2018 01:12 dave81 wrote: SoS has a really good chance of going through first. Only risk is if he goes heavy DT's against Stats. Due to his safe and stable nature.But I am pretty sure his Lotv record against Stats is pretty decent. Luckily Stats is paired up against Byun. With the marauder buff Byun's micro is not something I want SoS to run into. I'll say SoS goes first with Stats in second.
If I remember it right ByuN has always favored heavy-marine style instead of marauder.
This is a tough group to guess.... I think logic dictates that it should clearly be Stats and SoS to get through. But, it seems like Byun has been starting to come back to form. So I think Byun will sneak through, but Stats will probably get out in first. He's Stats. Stop underestimating him.
I'm not as big on Stats this season as I was last season. He still has a good chance to get out but more likely as 2nd, or goes home as 3rd. The thing is Stats always struggles with PvT, his worst MU by far in offline tournaments. Byun and Gumiho aren't exactly best terrans, but still. I think no matter what sOs will get out.
On June 02 2018 01:12 dave81 wrote: SoS has a really good chance of going through first. Only risk is if he goes heavy DT's against Stats. Due to his safe and stable nature.But I am pretty sure his Lotv record against Stats is pretty decent. Luckily Stats is paired up against Byun. With the marauder buff Byun's micro is not something I want SoS to run into. I'll say SoS goes first with Stats in second.
If I remember it right ByuN has always favored heavy-marine style instead of marauder.
You could be right I only really pay attention to Maru as far as terrans go. But the marauder buff is no joke against toss. Toss generally suck against them until mid to late game with storm + enough immortals. If he gets at least one of his first 3 barracks out with the attachment that doubles them up and 2 of his first 5 with his micro he should be able to due well against either toss player.
I figure of the 2 Stats would/will be better prepared. But because SoS has a very non traditional style he could get rushed by them and wrecked like how Maru did when he got 2-3'd in the first GSL season.
On June 02 2018 02:28 travis wrote: This is a tough group to guess.... I think logic dictates that it should clearly be Stats and SoS to get through. But, it seems like Byun has been starting to come back to form. So I think Byun will sneak through, but Stats will probably get out in first. He's Stats. Stop underestimating him.
thats part of the fun. mr. consistent, is mr. consistently underestimated.
I think Byun has a better chance winning a series off Stats or sOs than he does against GuMiho's TvT. GuMiho works some mech + proxy magic in TvP and comes in 2nd behind Stats.
Not too long ago herO said that ByuN is #1 Terran and we shouldn't take his recent results too seriously. I really believed that he'll deliver tonight so it's nice to see him doing well (though my heart is with all the Splyceboiis)
On June 02 2018 13:37 Kommander wrote: Am I reading Aligulac right? PvT went from 54% advantage for Protoss in April to nearly 50-50 in May. Terrans figured something out?
On June 02 2018 13:37 Kommander wrote: Am I reading Aligulac right? PvT went from 54% advantage for Protoss in April to nearly 50-50 in May. Terrans figured something out?
On June 02 2018 02:39 yangluphil wrote: I'm not as big on Stats this season as I was last season. He still has a good chance to get out but more likely as 2nd, or goes home as 3rd. The thing is Stats always struggles with PvT, his worst MU by far in offline tournaments. Byun and Gumiho aren't exactly best terrans, but still. I think no matter what sOs will get out.
On June 02 2018 13:37 Kommander wrote: Am I reading Aligulac right? PvT went from 54% advantage for Protoss in April to nearly 50-50 in May. Terrans figured something out?
It means post patch PvT is roughly 46%, which makes people happy I guess.
If Gumi wins the group, I can't take another TY vs Gumi in Ro8. But at least one will make the semi.
Still remember the series in 2017 S2, Gumi won 3-2 over TY. One of the games they basetraded and the game stabilized with both players taking >3 bases on the other player's side of the map. That was such an amazing TvT game.
I feel like bio vs mech on small maps is almost always a loss. Byun would be much better off if he didn't insist on playing bio in every single game no matter what.
On June 02 2018 14:59 iamho wrote: I feel like bio vs mech on small maps is almost always a loss. Byun would be much better off if he didn't insist on playing bio in every single game no matter what.
Honestly I've never seen him played mech...I wonder if he actually knows how to play it.
Can't understand Byun's reasoning there. If you take a secret base, you don't want to actually throw units into the other player. I know you want to keep pressure on, but you don't want to play as if you don't have the secret base. It's not hard to keep the threat on the left side without actually making engagements. This is the especially true in TvT.
Byun just lets his aggressive habits take precedence over the strategy. Classic Byun. Shame because the gold base is actually a good move especially considering his reputation.
sOs hardly performs in the mid-year either way. This wasn't really that surprising. He'll have to really make it deep in future tournaments if he wants to secure his spot for BlizzCon.
Artosis stop smh. Stats did not take the ramp because he saw Byun's 5 cyclones were stuck behind the two stasised ones. He retreated temporarily in case there is a drop in the main. That was actually a high level defensive move. Of course what went wrong was that the cyclones were not actually stuck. Once the scv in the front was pulled back, the rest of the army pushed through.
Double forge is the right move here because Stats knows the proxy failed. And he scouted there is no immediate follow up from Byun. So it is the best long term investment at this stage of the game.
And to imagine that a couple days ago the terran fans were already sharpening their pitchforks at the prospect of maybe having 6 protoss in the ro8... and now there's more terrans than protoss in the ro8.
Knew going in it's going to be a tough one for Stats who was already struggling in PvT before patch. Byun played well (not in the TvT series) and deserved credit though. sOs was not himself after G2 throw vs Gumiho.
On June 02 2018 16:56 Be9he wrote: Most recommended match?
sOs vs Gumiho g2 was really good
ByuN vs Stats g3 in the decider for the sick ByuN micro
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On June 02 2018 16:35 Inflicted wrote: If Maru knocks out Rogue, this is Classic's GSL
Zest can beat him if he makes it to the finals. If anything I'd say Rogue is unbeatable if he manages to survive Maru. There isn't a TvZ better than Maru, the Zergs are dead and I don't think there's a Protoss in the world that can reliably take him on in a bo7.
On June 02 2018 16:30 Nezgar wrote: And to imagine that a couple days ago the terran fans were already sharpening their pitchforks at the prospect of maybe having 6 protoss in the ro8... and now there's more terrans than protoss in the ro8.
But that's on this site normal, Terrans here are the most vocal IMO.
To be honest, Byun had to play like a monster just to eek out a win in that last game. I felt like he played ahead in almost every move and at still (except for near the end) he didn't look like he was ahead by much.
On June 02 2018 17:40 droppanda wrote: To be honest, Byun had to play like a monster just to eek out a win in that last game. I felt like he played ahead in almost every move and at still (except for near the end) he didn't look like he was ahead by much.
It's just his style...always playing on the edge, trying to outmicro his opponent. When he plays against an inferior player he will seem like a beast, but against someone on the similar level like Stats you will feel like this way.
On June 02 2018 16:30 Nezgar wrote: And to imagine that a couple days ago the terran fans were already sharpening their pitchforks at the prospect of maybe having 6 protoss in the ro8... and now there's more terrans than protoss in the ro8.
But that's on this site normal, Terrans here are the most vocal IMO.
The terrans in the Ro16 have been doing a lot better than expected somehow. Not sure if it's the patch or a natural resurgence from things getting figured out more, or what. Gumiho could very easily have found himself in the loser's match today, it was actually kind of a miracle that he didn't.
On June 02 2018 16:30 Nezgar wrote: And to imagine that a couple days ago the terran fans were already sharpening their pitchforks at the prospect of maybe having 6 protoss in the ro8... and now there's more terrans than protoss in the ro8.
But that's on this site normal, Terrans here are the most vocal IMO.
The terrans in the Ro16 have been doing a lot better than expected somehow. Not sure if it's the patch or a natural resurgence from things getting figured out more, or what. Gumiho could very easily have found himself in the loser's match today, it was actually kind of a miracle that he didn't.
Betwen a Byun that has looked like hot garbage lately and Stats who was last seasons runner up expecting the 2 tosses to pass made sense, maybe Gumiho pulling a sneaky one and topping sOs for 2nd, but Gumiho 1st and Byund 2nd? Nobody expected that.
Hell yes my boy Byun is back. He straight up destroyed the best protoss in the world. I've always rooted for him he seems such a nice fellow. I can see him lose to Classic because he plays completely different from Stats though.
I don't really see him or Maru beating Rogue though, or anyone for the matter from the other side of the bracket.rrrrr