On June 06 2018 04:49 Fango wrote: Rogue has this in the bag.
Classic vs ByuN could be closer if ByuN's form in the ro16 was as good as people hyped it up to be.
I'm a Rogue fan, but I'm actually kinda worried about him. I don't see any Z beating Maru currently unless he proxies too much.
Rogue is the kind of player who will realise if he can't beat someone in a macro game and then never play one. I think Maru is technically the better TvZ player than Rogue, but he won't be prepared for the allins and mindgames that are likely to occur.
On June 06 2018 12:07 yangluphil wrote: This season's GSL will be over after the first bo5.
Well, if Rogue wins he's looking unbeatable. Maru on the other hand can be defeated and by several others I'd say. In fact I think Classic and Gumiho hold the advantage over him should they meet.
On June 06 2018 12:07 yangluphil wrote: This season's GSL will be over after the first bo5.
Well, if Rogue wins he's looking unbeatable. Maru on the other hand can be defeated and by several others I'd say. In fact I think Classic and Gumiho hold the advantage over him should they meet.
Classic won't beat Maru, not after marauder buff. Gumiho has a chance (probably not over 50%), but he won't be able to beat Zest in bo7.
Wow, Maru had that timed out to the second. Held the position instead of trying to get aggressive at all with his first two medivacs, and the tanks set up right as 1-1 and combat shields hit. Even with a super-depot, that was as close to perfect as execution gets in this game.
Huh, I like how different Maru's followup to the 2/1/1 is to, say, how Innovation does it. I wonder if this is a response to Rogue's playstyle, or whether that's the direction he generally wants to take TvZ nowadays.
Guys, sorry, I've never played sc2, could you please explain what does that raven thing do, when it puts enemy units 'on fire'? Is it some kind of damage over time?
On June 06 2018 19:22 terfand wrote: Guys, sorry, I've never played sc2, could you please explain what does that raven thing do, when it puts enemy units 'on fire'? Is it some kind of damage over time?
It's amusing to hear this Terran and Zerg whine back and forth. Pre-patch: "OMG RAVENS SO OP ZERGS CAN'T BEAT THIS CRAP". Post-patch: "OMG THANKS BLIZZ TERRAN NO LATEGAME ZERG LATEGAME UNBEATABLE".
I love how Rogues ZvT transformed over the year. At the start, and in Katowice, he was only beating Terran with cheesy play, all-ins and tricks. That is how he beat Maru in Katowice. And now its a complete reverse. He absolutely owns the late game, but Maru is destroying him with early game aggression. Hope we get 2 more games, awesome series !
On June 06 2018 19:52 MarianoSC2 wrote: I love how Rogues ZvT transformed over the year. At the start, and in Katowice, he was only beating Terran with cheesy play, all-ins and tricks. That is how he beat Maru in Katowice. And now its a complete reverse. He absolutely owns the late game, but Maru is destroying him with early game aggression. Hope we get 2 more games, awesome series !
Thing is the same is true for Maru as well.
When Maru first came on the scene his bio control was just about all he was. He's somehow morphed into this all around great Terran that can play any style in any match up.
On June 06 2018 19:52 MarianoSC2 wrote: I love how Rogues ZvT transformed over the year. At the start, and in Katowice, he was only beating Terran with cheesy play, all-ins and tricks. That is how he beat Maru in Katowice. And now its a complete reverse. He absolutely owns the late game, but Maru is destroying him with early game aggression. Hope we get 2 more games, awesome series !
Because of the balance patch.
Back then it was a better choice to do late "all-ins" in ZvT but now the late game gives you more chances to win now that terrans need to figure out a way without super strong ravens
But it's nice to see that he adapts so fast indeed. Clearly not a patchzerg no matter what was said somewhere here
On June 06 2018 19:52 MarianoSC2 wrote: I love how Rogues ZvT transformed over the year. At the start, and in Katowice, he was only beating Terran with cheesy play, all-ins and tricks. That is how he beat Maru in Katowice. And now its a complete reverse. He absolutely owns the late game, but Maru is destroying him with early game aggression. Hope we get 2 more games, awesome series !
Because of the balance patch.
Back then it was a better choice to do late "all-ins" in ZvT but now the late game gives you more chances to win now that terrans need to figure out a way without super strong ravens
But it's nice to see that he adapts so fast indeed. Clearly not a patchzerg no matter what was said somewhere here
I think Rogue is definitely a patchzerg = Insanely good through all the patches
Oh man Rogue is just on another level. He is the ultimate baneling master and his muta play this game? How many tank reinforcements did he snipe? 12? Insane plays. I mean Maru can still cheese him out in the last map, but I hope Rogue takes it becuse Maru will just get bopped by Classic in the semis
On June 06 2018 20:14 neutralrobot wrote: Well, as expected, it goes to game 5. The normal Maru thing to do would be to proxy here, but I think he probably won't.
Maru cant proxy rax against Rogue. They play each other too much and Rogue can just easily scout and hold that. He even held it against Inno where he did not really expect it. Aggressive Tank pushes seem to work for Maru, I expect another one here.
On June 06 2018 19:52 MarianoSC2 wrote: I love how Rogues ZvT transformed over the year. At the start, and in Katowice, he was only beating Terran with cheesy play, all-ins and tricks. That is how he beat Maru in Katowice. And now its a complete reverse. He absolutely owns the late game, but Maru is destroying him with early game aggression. Hope we get 2 more games, awesome series !
Thing is the same is true for Maru as well.
When Maru first came on the scene his bio control was just about all he was. He's somehow morphed into this all around great Terran that can play any style in any match up.
He's grown so much.
And yet the games he won were quintessential Maru. This looks precisely like 2016, 2017, whenever.
Oh well, that last tank shot on the banes won Maru the series... A bit sad tbh, Rogue is the better player overall. Maru stands no chance against Classic. While I would bet for Rogue to win GSL if he advanced :/ Damn
On June 06 2018 20:24 MarianoSC2 wrote: Oh well, that last tank shot on the banes won Maru the series... A bit sad tbh, Rogue is the better player overall. Maru stands no chance against Classic. While I would bet for Rogue to win GSL if he advanced :/ Damn
Not really, they were running into his marines anyway he could have saved one more maybe but this game wasnt about A bane
sexi boi keeping the ro8 meme real. sOs has 2 finals losses, Maru 4 ro4's, and Rogue on his way to 8th ro8 loss. Trap still working on his ro16 appearances.
On June 06 2018 20:23 Pursuit_ wrote: Really kinda disappointing for Rogue, he just didn't macro properly at the end. Floating 1200/700, if he just had units he'd have been fine
thats wasnt a macro mistake. if you drone that heavily, you dont have enough lava to spend the money at this point of the game. you have to put it into tech. but that was not what he needed. and under constant pressure he hadnt the time to morph bane... thats where the money is supposed to go at this point. he was just a little to greedy.
Honestly Classic probably still advantage here but I hope Byun wins this one. If you think PvT was bad, reconsider it after this season when you see the winrate approaches 56% for terran.
On June 06 2018 20:38 dummy1 wrote: Right now I m feeling ambivalence. I'm happy but also is sad. Maru won. Nice. Rogue not. Not nice. SC2 is so cruel game. Playing with feelings.
There have been way too many JinAir teamkills in recent Ro8s. It always feels bittersweet.
On June 06 2018 20:58 Carminedust wrote: Maru is still winning this mus mean terran needs nerfed harder clearly the raven still OP must redo the raven and redesign it
On June 06 2018 20:58 Carminedust wrote: Maru is still winning this mus mean terran needs nerfed harder clearly the raven still OP must redo the raven and redesign it
we switched to whining about marines
clearly SCV ability to gather minerals is OP must nerf so they can only gather Gas and not minerals
On June 06 2018 20:58 Carminedust wrote: Maru is still winning this mus mean terran needs nerfed harder clearly the raven still OP must redo the raven and redesign it
we switched to whining about marines
clearly SCV ability to gather minerals is OP must nerf so they can only gather Gas and not minerals
Maru vs Rogue was a fun match. Classic vs Byun was boring and a bop. I'm mostly sad we got no zerg left. Still haven't had a zerg GSL champion since Life in S1 2015.
On June 06 2018 21:34 Kommander wrote: Classic almost never goes robo tech in PvT except for a few immortals and warp prisms, makes it more fun to watch IMO.
if u think ur the better player u should never go robo. the amount of shit u can do with oracle and blink allows you to control the game as demonstrated by the series. robo is so hots style honestly
On June 06 2018 21:47 Zephyp wrote: Maru vs Rogue was a fun match. Classic vs Byun was boring and a bop. I'm mostly sad we got no zerg left. Still haven't had a zerg GSL champion since Life in S1 2015.
It's not like the most 2nd places took soO who's ... uh... isn't he zerg?
Sure, it sucks to not have the champion, but having such a godlike player(at least at that time) isn't something I woul treat lightly.
Has a Korean ended a game in GSL with anything other than your standard GG, g, ww, or *whatever korean symbols*? That "gg..." seemed a bit weird and BM (coming from a Rogue fanboy). I could be totally wrong though.
On June 07 2018 04:44 mierin wrote: Has a Korean ended a game in GSL with anything other than your standard GG, g, ww, or *whatever korean symbols*? That "gg..." seemed a bit weird and BM (coming from a Rogue fanboy). I could be totally wrong though.
As long as you don't write IMBA IMBA IMBA you should be fine tbh
On June 07 2018 04:44 mierin wrote: Has a Korean ended a game in GSL with anything other than your standard GG, g, ww, or *whatever korean symbols*? That "gg..." seemed a bit weird and BM (coming from a Rogue fanboy). I could be totally wrong though.
As long as you don't write IMBA IMBA IMBA you should be fine tbh
On June 07 2018 04:44 mierin wrote: Has a Korean ended a game in GSL with anything other than your standard GG, g, ww, or *whatever korean symbols*? That "gg..." seemed a bit weird and BM (coming from a Rogue fanboy). I could be totally wrong though.
As long as you don't write IMBA IMBA IMBA you should be fine tbh
I was so deep in feels with Ryung that time.
Also mierin while I dislike Rogue I don't think he was bm. I think he was upset with himself because of how he lost to early push