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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51300 Posts
Poll: Zest vs TYTY Wins (30) 60% Zest Wins (20) 40% 50 total votes Your vote: Zest vs TY (Vote): Zest Wins (Vote): TY Wins
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As a protoss player, i hope TY wins just to avoid a PvP finals. Classic will smash maru 99% sure
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England1106 Posts
You know I have a strange feeling that Zest has a good shot at winning and going on to the finals. Definitely watching this tomorrow.
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On June 13 2018 07:12 Obamarauder wrote: As a protoss player, i hope TY wins just to avoid a PvP finals. Classic will smash maru 99% sure with the marauder buff, Maru gonna 3-0 Classic
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On June 13 2018 08:53 necrosexy wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2018 07:12 Obamarauder wrote: As a protoss player, i hope TY wins just to avoid a PvP finals. Classic will smash maru 99% sure with the marauder buff, Maru gonna 3-0 Classic
well its a bo7, im assuming u meant 3-0 into 4-3 Classic )
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On June 13 2018 09:54 Obamarauder wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2018 08:53 necrosexy wrote:On June 13 2018 07:12 Obamarauder wrote: As a protoss player, i hope TY wins just to avoid a PvP finals. Classic will smash maru 99% sure with the marauder buff, Maru gonna 3-0 Classic well its a bo7, im assuming u meant 3-0 into 4-3 Classic ) nooooooooooooo
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On June 13 2018 06:28 Charoisaur wrote: TvT finals incoming
I feel like a PvP finals is more likely but I'd like to see Classic v TY
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I'm feeling Zest on this one. My instincts have been so off this season, though, that this probably bodes well for TY.
Which I'd like. Zest is cool and all, but I would be much more excited to see any of the other remaining 3 players win it this time.
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Won't be able to watch it live because i'll be at work but i'm hoping for Zest.
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Man I feel like cheering for Zest and Classic.... I must be sick
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Austria24413 Posts
I got TY winning unfortunately. Close series though.
The prospect of a Bo7 PvP between Zest and Classic is pretty awesome though.
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why is bottom bracket playing first?
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I hope for a TvT final, it`s been a while, but I am happy with any of these 4 awesome players to win it all. Zest would be a nice comeback. Classic is staying strong. Maru best player period. Ty one of the best terrans in the last 3-4 years, kinda always top3 matterial.
so, let`s just hope for close series and ggs
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Time to watch the Terminator go to work.
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Hope I'm wrong but I went with TY. Really don't want to see a TvT final. But as much as people prop up Classic's PvT he has absolutely no chance against Maru with upgraded marauders.
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Zest will be best, I like TY aswell though.
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Hmm does that count as an Artosis curse?
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Darkness Sanctuary game 7 :S
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tyuuuuuuuuuuu, zestuuuuuuuuuuuuu
Hmm who to root for. I want a a non mirror finals so either Maru Zest or Classic TY.. TY it is cuz Maru would smash Zest.
TYUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
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On June 13 2018 18:42 Penev wrote: tyuuuuuuuuuuu, zestuuuuuuuuuuuuu
Hmm who to root for. I want a a non mirror finals so either Maru Zest or Classic TY.. TY it is cuz Maru would smash Zest.
TYUUUUUUUUUUUUUU You only add the "u" after a consonant.
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On June 13 2018 18:44 DBooN wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2018 18:42 Penev wrote: tyuuuuuuuuuuu, zestuuuuuuuuuuuuu
Hmm who to root for. I want a a non mirror finals so either Maru Zest or Classic TY.. TY it is cuz Maru would smash Zest.
TYUUUUUUUUUUUUUU You only add the "u" after a consonant. you are mistaken, I add the "u" after everything I want
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the winner will loose finals
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On June 13 2018 18:46 Penev wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2018 18:44 DBooN wrote:On June 13 2018 18:42 Penev wrote: tyuuuuuuuuuuu, zestuuuuuuuuuuuuu
Hmm who to root for. I want a a non mirror finals so either Maru Zest or Classic TY.. TY it is cuz Maru would smash Zest.
TYUUUUUUUUUUUUUU You only add the "u" after a consonant. you are mistaken, I add the "u" after everything I want I'll sue you!
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Just tuned in, how was game 1?
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lol TY letting that probe in
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This is GSL champion Zest I'm watching here.
When he plays like this he really does look as good as he used to.
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On June 13 2018 18:52 Fyzar wrote: Just tuned in, how was game 1?
It was almost the same story as game 1.
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looks like this will be a short series
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Just put him out of his misery Zest. This game is already over.
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one of the worse casts from them tbh
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On June 13 2018 18:51 DBooN wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2018 18:46 Penev wrote:On June 13 2018 18:44 DBooN wrote:On June 13 2018 18:42 Penev wrote: tyuuuuuuuuuuu, zestuuuuuuuuuuuuu
Hmm who to root for. I want a a non mirror finals so either Maru Zest or Classic TY.. TY it is cuz Maru would smash Zest.
TYUUUUUUUUUUUUUU You only add the "u" after a consonant. you are mistaken, I add the "u" after everything I want I'll sue you! I'll have incontroll defend me in court!
he'll slander your good name (;
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look at the souply damnit
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Oh zest. Just when I was complimenting you.
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On June 13 2018 18:57 Penev wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2018 18:51 DBooN wrote:On June 13 2018 18:46 Penev wrote:On June 13 2018 18:44 DBooN wrote:On June 13 2018 18:42 Penev wrote: tyuuuuuuuuuuu, zestuuuuuuuuuuuuu
Hmm who to root for. I want a a non mirror finals so either Maru Zest or Classic TY.. TY it is cuz Maru would smash Zest.
TYUUUUUUUUUUUUUU You only add the "u" after a consonant. you are mistaken, I add the "u" after everything I want I'll sue you! I'll have incontroll defend me in court! he'll slander your good name (; T-this isn't the last you hear of me!!
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tastosis tried to hard to make it sound like TY had any chance in that game LOL
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why did arty think TY was going to win?
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zest playing like zest, but the best version of zest
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"I tell you TY is in a good place to win the game" GG's 30sec after that. That was fun haha
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Wow Zest is off to a killer start. Think he is in his head as well.
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On June 13 2018 18:57 Aunvilgodess wrote: one of the worse casts from them tbh
truly bad
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Man, Tastosis has a bit of a bias for TY. That or they're having a bad cast analysis wise.
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I think Dan has played too much BW and is failing to realize how bad TvP is right now.
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On June 13 2018 19:05 ilikeredheads wrote: I think Dan has played too much BW and is failing to realize how bad TvP is right now. Yeah Protoss is struggling a bit but apparently it's not stopping Zest!
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On June 13 2018 19:04 StateAlchemist wrote: "I tell you TY is in a good place to win the game" GG's 30sec after that. That was fun haha
Yeah...I'm like "are you looking at the supply"
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I wonder if they have the supply counts that the viewer's have access to. Because often when I watch casts they get stuff like that wrong?
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On June 13 2018 19:05 ilikeredheads wrote: I think Dan has played too much BW and is failing to realize how bad TvP is right now. Zest doesnt seem fazed tho
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reverse sweeps have happened alot against TY though :p
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No chance in hell TY scouts there
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Big mistake by Zest. But will it matter
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fuck this series
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I´ve never seen a beatdown like that, monstrous. What makes it even more hilarious is the TY hyping from artosis since the beginning
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I mean TY is not dead yet
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On June 13 2018 19:16 Argonauta wrote: I´ve never seen a beatdown like that, monstrous. What makes it even more hilarious is the TY hyping from artosis since the beginning can't beat the Arotsis Curse
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Yeah pretty sure TY just wins lol
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Pretty impressive game by TY, thought he was screwed
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TY's not doing that bad honestly
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wtf happened with 2 first matches ?
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Holy shit, that was a sick game by TY being in that situation!
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Still confused why he brought the adept up and let his stargate get scouted. Zest shouldve won that shit
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I just ate a quesadilla for a snack. Appropriate considering how much CHEESE is in this series.
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Oh wow, Flash is streaming the games. Makes sense though, these two are his former teammates.
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On June 13 2018 19:25 Kommander wrote: Oh wow, Flash is streaming the games. Makes sense though, these two are his former teammates.
He was streaming Byun's games too IIRC. May have been another Terran, but Flash has been paying attention for sure these last few rounds.
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On June 13 2018 19:22 Vindicare605 wrote: What is this game?!
Starcraft 2
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I think this is what TY calls a Championship Build
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On June 13 2018 19:26 Heartland wrote:Starcraft 2
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Most intense sc2 series. StarCraft just gets better and better
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On June 13 2018 19:27 Vindicare605 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2018 19:26 Heartland wrote:On June 13 2018 19:22 Vindicare605 wrote: What is this game?! Starcraft 2 hey the man just recovered from winning the most brutal of BO5's, give him a break
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TY has a great opportunity to go ahead from here, Backwater is pretty much T favored in TvP.
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TY's so much better than Zest it's insane
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Feels like we're gonna watch more break time than actual gameplay
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On June 13 2018 19:29 Penev wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2018 19:27 Vindicare605 wrote:On June 13 2018 19:26 Heartland wrote:On June 13 2018 19:22 Vindicare605 wrote: What is this game?! Starcraft 2 hey the man just recovered from winning the most brutal of BO5's, give him a break
I'll need context for this one. What Bo5? Was there another LR tournament that I missed?
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TY's so much better than Zest it's insane
Yeah sure that what the first 2 games showed
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LOL now I regret not joining up. If I knew I could advance on literal coin flips I might have had a chance of making it deep.
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is last map P or T favored ?
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On June 13 2018 19:34 Vindicare605 wrote:LOL now I regret not joining up. If I knew I could advance on literal coin flips I might have had a chance of making it deep.
Basically my play style is a coin flip anyway
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On June 13 2018 19:39 Heartland wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2018 19:34 Vindicare605 wrote:On June 13 2018 19:31 Penev wrote:On June 13 2018 19:30 Vindicare605 wrote:On June 13 2018 19:29 Penev wrote:On June 13 2018 19:27 Vindicare605 wrote:On June 13 2018 19:26 Heartland wrote:On June 13 2018 19:22 Vindicare605 wrote: What is this game?! Starcraft 2 hey the man just recovered from winning the most brutal of BO5's, give him a break I'll need context for this one. What Bo5? Was there another LR tournament that I missed? http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/sc2-tournaments/532780-lrsl-live-report-super-tournament-2018?page=6#120 LOL now I regret not joining up. If I knew I could advance on literal coin flips I might have had a chance of making it deep. Basically my play style is a coin flip anyway
Protoss.
Doesn't surprise me.
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On June 13 2018 19:40 Vindicare605 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2018 19:39 Heartland wrote:On June 13 2018 19:34 Vindicare605 wrote:On June 13 2018 19:31 Penev wrote:On June 13 2018 19:30 Vindicare605 wrote:On June 13 2018 19:29 Penev wrote:On June 13 2018 19:27 Vindicare605 wrote:On June 13 2018 19:26 Heartland wrote:On June 13 2018 19:22 Vindicare605 wrote: What is this game?! Starcraft 2 hey the man just recovered from winning the most brutal of BO5's, give him a break I'll need context for this one. What Bo5? Was there another LR tournament that I missed? http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/sc2-tournaments/532780-lrsl-live-report-super-tournament-2018?page=6#120 LOL now I regret not joining up. If I knew I could advance on literal coin flips I might have had a chance of making it deep. Basically my play style is a coin flip anyway Protoss. Doesn't surprise me. this is a perfect little thread
shit I just ruined it :/
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fuck yeah it's M E C H A N I C time
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Well. This didn't work. Another nail in the coffin that is Mech vs Protoss.
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thank god mech isnt viable in TvP
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protoss
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getting supply blocked at 85 really screwed TY, not that he would have 100% held without it of course
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shitty game again but GG Zest i guess
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On June 13 2018 19:45 sneakyfox wrote:protoss terran
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Way to kill the hype Zest -_-
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Yeah get that mech shit outta here
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On June 13 2018 19:45 Mun_Su wrote: shitty game again but GG Zest i guess Pretty shit series so far tbh
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Catalyst quite similar to the first two maps. I'm fearing for TY here
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forgot that was bo7. com'on give us some good games
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On June 13 2018 19:45 Durnuu wrote: getting supply blocked at 85 really screwed TY, not that he would have 100% held without it of course
That plus the micro mistake with the statis ward :/
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This game is gonna turn into a fiesta real fast
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Austria24413 Posts
Was going to be 3gate prism/immortal, but Zest abandoned it after the hellion scout
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On June 13 2018 19:46 Fyzar wrote:Pretty shit series so far tbh
Dreamcatcher was funny
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Austria24413 Posts
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TY is going full-Maru this game
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Damn that was so well played by TY!
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Darkness Sanctuary game 7 hype
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Finally a good game. Even if was still sloppy.
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this series reminds me of the games just after LotV or HotS just came out.
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2 disruptor didn't shot at the end when TY closed on Zeest army + he wasn't able to deny TY's mass drop
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On June 13 2018 18:41 sneakyfox wrote: Darkness Sanctuary game 7 :S
Here we go. This all going to end with some silly protoss push
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Zest gonna be sad about that void ray game if he ends up losing this game.
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On June 13 2018 19:59 Aunvilgodess wrote: this series reminds me of the games just after LotV or HotS just came out.
Yeah, quite a bit like their GSL final
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at least not cross position. thank god!
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last map is not a good map ?
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On June 13 2018 20:04 Mun_Su wrote: last map is not a good map ?
To play in? Yeah, nowadays no one wants to play on a 4 player spawn map. Not that bad in terms of watchability though.
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That's a big move. Not looking good for TY.
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Interesting series.
Zest is best.
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Looking like PvP finals and another Zest championship
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zest in a gsl finals 2018
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Last two maps were pretty good, Zest in better shape today.
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Losing the game, because your spotter marine was 6 tiles off.
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I really don't see how Terran is supposed to beat Protoss straight up on that map. Protoss Air is just so damn fast and provides such excellent map control.
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On June 13 2018 20:13 Vindicare605 wrote: I really don't see how Terran is supposed to beat Protoss straight up on that map. Protoss Air is just so damn fast and provides such excellent map control.
Not losing your 3rd base to stalkers is a good start.
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On June 13 2018 20:07 Kommander wrote:To play in? Yeah, nowadays no one wants to play on a 4 player spawn map. Not that bad in terms of watchability though.
Thanks
So the winner of this GSL (no matter who) will become a 3 times starleague winner right ?
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On June 13 2018 20:12 Ej_ wrote: Losing the game, because your spotter marine was 6 tiles off.
And everything was looking so well for TY up to that point. Brutal
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Austria24413 Posts
One of the worst full Bo7s I've seen but I'll take it!
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On June 13 2018 20:14 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2018 20:13 Vindicare605 wrote: I really don't see how Terran is supposed to beat Protoss straight up on that map. Protoss Air is just so damn fast and provides such excellent map control.
Not losing your 3rd base to stalkers is a good start.
I don't get why TY chose that location for his 3rd. Conventional wisdom would've been to expand away from your opponent, not towards.
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On June 13 2018 20:13 Vindicare605 wrote: I really don't see how Terran is supposed to beat Protoss straight up on that map. Protoss Air is just so damn fast and provides such excellent map control.
just play like Maru
on that note if Classic wins the other semi's Zest has an actual chance of winning another GSL :o
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On June 13 2018 20:14 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2018 20:13 Vindicare605 wrote: I really don't see how Terran is supposed to beat Protoss straight up on that map. Protoss Air is just so damn fast and provides such excellent map control.
Not losing your 3rd base to stalkers is a good start.
I mean yea, but that's part of the thing with the air units I was talking about.
Oracles can just tag the army over and over, Protoss can expand freely and if Terran moves out at all the potential for counter attacks into recall is just that much stronger thanks to the size of the map.
Only way TY holds that attack with the supply he had was to see it coming already, in which case Zest can just hang back and take a 4th.
if TY counters, Zest can wipe out the CC and recall back in time to meet the Terran army walking over.
I dunno. the pure size and layout just plays to all of the strengths of Protoss in the match up. The later it goes the worse it gets imo.
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Seriously, Zest in GSL finals ...
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On June 13 2018 20:14 Mun_Su wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2018 20:07 Kommander wrote:On June 13 2018 20:04 Mun_Su wrote: last map is not a good map ? To play in? Yeah, nowadays no one wants to play on a 4 player spawn map. Not that bad in terms of watchability though. Thanks So the winner of this GSL (no matter who) will become a 3 times starleague winner right ?
Oh i forgot that Maru won OSL. so he can become a 4 times starleague champion
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Nice use of the Back to the Future music here.
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Zest on his way to become the uncontested GOAT
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On June 13 2018 20:15 Penev wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2018 20:13 Vindicare605 wrote: I really don't see how Terran is supposed to beat Protoss straight up on that map. Protoss Air is just so damn fast and provides such excellent map control.
just play like Maru on that note if Classic wins the other semi's Zest has an actual chance of winning another GSL :o
I mean that would be my strategy tbh. Just start going for Raven/Ghost/Viking from the outset and defend whatever nonsense my opponent throws at me.
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TY couldn't answer Zest's Stargate play, that's why he lost. He smashed down his collosus play.
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On June 13 2018 20:16 Vindicare605 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2018 20:14 Ej_ wrote:On June 13 2018 20:13 Vindicare605 wrote: I really don't see how Terran is supposed to beat Protoss straight up on that map. Protoss Air is just so damn fast and provides such excellent map control.
Not losing your 3rd base to stalkers is a good start. I mean yea, but that's part of the thing with the air units I was talking about. Oracles can just tag the army over and over, Protoss can expand freely and if Terran moves out at all the potential for counter attacks into recall is just that much stronger thanks to the size of the map. Only way TY holds that attack with the supply he had was to see it coming already, in which case Zest can just hang back and take a 4th. if TY counters, Zest can wipe out the CC and recall back in time to meet the Terran army walking over. I dunno. the pure size and layout just plays to all of the strengths of Protoss in the match up. The later it goes the worse it gets imo.
Even tho I agree overall, TY really had no excuse to not see that attack coming. To not have any vision of the rocks that lead straight to your 3rd was poor play. If Zest was ever going to attack, that was probably the most obvious route he would take. That spotter marine wasn't well placed.
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On June 13 2018 20:25 blooblooblahblah wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2018 20:16 Vindicare605 wrote:On June 13 2018 20:14 Ej_ wrote:On June 13 2018 20:13 Vindicare605 wrote: I really don't see how Terran is supposed to beat Protoss straight up on that map. Protoss Air is just so damn fast and provides such excellent map control.
Not losing your 3rd base to stalkers is a good start. I mean yea, but that's part of the thing with the air units I was talking about. Oracles can just tag the army over and over, Protoss can expand freely and if Terran moves out at all the potential for counter attacks into recall is just that much stronger thanks to the size of the map. Only way TY holds that attack with the supply he had was to see it coming already, in which case Zest can just hang back and take a 4th. if TY counters, Zest can wipe out the CC and recall back in time to meet the Terran army walking over. I dunno. the pure size and layout just plays to all of the strengths of Protoss in the match up. The later it goes the worse it gets imo. Even tho I agree overall, TY really had no excuse to not see that attack coming. To not have any vision of the rocks that lead straight to your 3rd was poor play. If Zest was ever going to attack, that was probably the most obvious route he would take. That spotter marine wasn't well placed.
Absolutely, I'm not saying TY didn't get outplayed in that game, just the way that early game looked it really seemed like he was screwed no matter what he tried.
It really felt like the best option was to just turtle up and move out slowly knowing you're gonna have to face the Protoss deathball and beat it at some point.
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On June 13 2018 20:18 Penev wrote: Zest on his way to become the uncontested GOAT
Maybe in about 3 GSL wins
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Those games were even better than I expected. Zest having moments of looking like his old self. I just really don't want him to take it. My main hope is for Maru to be standing on a couple more discarded protoss corpses as he grasps another trophy.
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Now all we need is for Maru to be crushed under the mighty chin for best GSL Finals
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On June 13 2018 21:24 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2018 20:18 Penev wrote: Zest on his way to become the uncontested GOAT Maybe in about 3 GSL wins let us continue this discussion in other players' fan club threads
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On June 13 2018 20:49 Vindicare605 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2018 20:25 blooblooblahblah wrote:On June 13 2018 20:16 Vindicare605 wrote:On June 13 2018 20:14 Ej_ wrote:On June 13 2018 20:13 Vindicare605 wrote: I really don't see how Terran is supposed to beat Protoss straight up on that map. Protoss Air is just so damn fast and provides such excellent map control.
Not losing your 3rd base to stalkers is a good start. I mean yea, but that's part of the thing with the air units I was talking about. Oracles can just tag the army over and over, Protoss can expand freely and if Terran moves out at all the potential for counter attacks into recall is just that much stronger thanks to the size of the map. Only way TY holds that attack with the supply he had was to see it coming already, in which case Zest can just hang back and take a 4th. if TY counters, Zest can wipe out the CC and recall back in time to meet the Terran army walking over. I dunno. the pure size and layout just plays to all of the strengths of Protoss in the match up. The later it goes the worse it gets imo. Even tho I agree overall, TY really had no excuse to not see that attack coming. To not have any vision of the rocks that lead straight to your 3rd was poor play. If Zest was ever going to attack, that was probably the most obvious route he would take. That spotter marine wasn't well placed. Absolutely, I'm not saying TY didn't get outplayed in that game, just the way that early game looked it really seemed like he was screwed no matter what he tried. It really felt like the best option was to just turtle up and move out slowly knowing you're gonna have to face the Protoss deathball and beat it at some point.
The heavy gas investment in air means his storm will be late, and Oracle's and phoenixes aren't great fighting units, leaving you vulnerable to an early attack. So there are advantages and disadvantages of that play.
In that game, Zest abused the large map to expand very quickly, so he had an economic advantage. That made his air look stronger than it was.
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I'm really struggling here. On the one hand, I really want Classic to win the next match, but I really don't want a PvP finals. However, out of the remaining folks there I want Classic to win the whole thing. Sigh...guess I'm cheering for Classic.
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TY lost too much in the initial phase of the game whilst doing comparably gabarggio damage, but he was still quite ahead tech wise, with that said if TY had not lost his third so easily or if he had hit before storm, I think Zest would've lost the game. Pretty sure last minute storm saved his ass there.
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crazy and exciting series overall. i thought this was going to be a TY victory but damn! Zest looked strong today. wp!
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Practicing with Ryung really paid off.
I swear, Ryung is the best practice partner. His execution isn't good at all, but he knows the ins and outs of every build in the game up until the 9 minute mark.
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