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Rip Stephano, ZvZ is truly taking the wind out of his "comeback". The guy is top4 on the ladder and stuff but never gets to play ZvT and ZvP in tournaments.
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ZvZ carnival today... good grief. We'll have a new world record in # of roaches dead within 4 hours.
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On August 11 2018 20:42 Musicus wrote: Rip Stephano, ZvZ is truly taking the wind out of his "comeback". The guy is top4 on the ladder and stuff but never gets to play ZvT and ZvP in tournaments.
Well, when playing Zerg in EU, you had better get good at ZvZ... 9 / 16 are Zerg in this qualifier. :/
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On August 11 2018 22:56 BaneRiders wrote:Show nested quote +On August 11 2018 20:42 Musicus wrote: Rip Stephano, ZvZ is truly taking the wind out of his "comeback". The guy is top4 on the ladder and stuff but never gets to play ZvT and ZvP in tournaments. Well, when playing Zerg in EU, you had better get good at ZvZ... 9 / 16 are Zerg in this qualifier. :/ Which really makes you wonder how he got high on the ladder in the first place :D
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On August 11 2018 23:45 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On August 11 2018 22:56 BaneRiders wrote:On August 11 2018 20:42 Musicus wrote: Rip Stephano, ZvZ is truly taking the wind out of his "comeback". The guy is top4 on the ladder and stuff but never gets to play ZvT and ZvP in tournaments. Well, when playing Zerg in EU, you had better get good at ZvZ... 9 / 16 are Zerg in this qualifier. :/ Which really makes you wonder how he got high on the ladder in the first place :D
Indeed, what is his race report? I can't even find him in the GM... Is he playing with a barcode?
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I don't like ZombieGrub's makeup.... It looks so strong :\
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On August 11 2018 23:49 BaneRiders wrote:Show nested quote +On August 11 2018 23:45 Ej_ wrote:On August 11 2018 22:56 BaneRiders wrote:On August 11 2018 20:42 Musicus wrote: Rip Stephano, ZvZ is truly taking the wind out of his "comeback". The guy is top4 on the ladder and stuff but never gets to play ZvT and ZvP in tournaments. Well, when playing Zerg in EU, you had better get good at ZvZ... 9 / 16 are Zerg in this qualifier. :/ Which really makes you wonder how he got high on the ladder in the first place :D Indeed, what is his race report? I can't even find him in the GM... Is he playing with a barcode? Not sure, but he was streaming just a day ago or two and he was top 4 then.
Edit: Okay according to sc2 unmasked he is the zerg who is currently rank 13 and has 69% ZvP, 75 ZvT and 53% ZvZ
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On August 11 2018 23:52 Musicus wrote:Show nested quote +On August 11 2018 23:49 BaneRiders wrote:On August 11 2018 23:45 Ej_ wrote:On August 11 2018 22:56 BaneRiders wrote:On August 11 2018 20:42 Musicus wrote: Rip Stephano, ZvZ is truly taking the wind out of his "comeback". The guy is top4 on the ladder and stuff but never gets to play ZvT and ZvP in tournaments. Well, when playing Zerg in EU, you had better get good at ZvZ... 9 / 16 are Zerg in this qualifier. :/ Which really makes you wonder how he got high on the ladder in the first place :D Indeed, what is his race report? I can't even find him in the GM... Is he playing with a barcode? Not sure, but he was streaming just a day ago or two and he was top 4 then. Edit: Okay according to sc2 unmasked he is the zerg who is currently rank 13 and has 69% ZvP, 75 ZvT and 53% ZvZ
Probably he lost a few ZvZs and dropped a few spots then.
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On August 11 2018 23:49 geokilla wrote: I don't like ZombieGrub's makeup.... It looks so strong :\
Do you prefer feardragon's?
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It's kinda blowing my mind that we already have over 20k watching a WCS Challenger full zerg group, people really like to watch WCS these days.
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NA casting EU? Not that I'm complaining about ZG and Incontrol
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On August 12 2018 01:03 Musicus wrote: It's kinda blowing my mind that we already have over 20k watching a WCS Challenger full zerg group, people really like to watch WCS these days.
The hype is real!
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On August 12 2018 01:06 Noonius wrote: NA casting EU? Not that I'm complaining about ZG and Incontrol
They are on a long shift today.
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On August 12 2018 01:03 Musicus wrote: It's kinda blowing my mind that we already have over 20k watching a WCS Challenger full zerg group, people really like to watch WCS these days.
heat stroke is a dangerous thing and manifests itself in various ways
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On August 12 2018 01:03 Musicus wrote: It's kinda blowing my mind that we already have over 20k watching a WCS Challenger full zerg group, people really like to watch WCS these days. Seems like people liked watching Stephano more than WCS itself, since it's tanked about 9k viewers since he got knocked out
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On August 12 2018 01:21 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2018 01:03 Musicus wrote: It's kinda blowing my mind that we already have over 20k watching a WCS Challenger full zerg group, people really like to watch WCS these days. Seems like people liked watching Stephano more than WCS itself, since it's tanked about 9k viewers since he got knocked out Yeah, did not expect him to have that much pull still.
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What is Incontrol doing in a four zerg group if he dislikes the matchup so much though
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On August 12 2018 01:26 VengefulTree wrote: What is Incontrol doing in a four zerg group if he dislikes the matchup so much though He's taking one for the team, 4 Zerg group sucks for everyone.
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On August 12 2018 01:26 VengefulTree wrote: What is Incontrol doing in a four zerg group if he dislikes the matchup so much though inb4 Geoff shows up to say this thread sucks
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On August 12 2018 01:36 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2018 01:26 VengefulTree wrote: What is Incontrol doing in a four zerg group if he dislikes the matchup so much though inb4 Geoff shows up to say this thread sucks With this level of activity it kinda does.
But I'll gladly blame this on the full ZvZ group.
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On August 12 2018 01:26 VengefulTree wrote: What is Incontrol doing in a four zerg group if he dislikes the matchup so much though
I love your concept of casting / hiring process.
Them: Geoff? Want to cast challenger? Me: sure! Wait.. is there an all ZvZ group? Them: *shifty eyed* no... Me: oh ok! Sounds great!
Nah fam. I’m just making my jokes likes I do every broadcast. And like every broadcast you are the destined few who get their jimmies rustled. Tomorrow it will happen again.
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1 hour late as usual. poor stephano, always zerg. I wonder how Stephano would do in tournament where each player only plays opponents who aren't the same race as him. Like a round robin without mirror matches, with the same number of players per race.
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namshar a literal god in zvz
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It's going to suck if the Korean SC2 scene dies and it's 60% Z everywhere.
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if Serral loses a map we all know what to blame. JET LAG
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just to be edgy, uthermal#1 Serral#2 in this group
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Now this group is interesting. Let's see what uthermal/Harstem can do vs Serral.
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Wow, I really like what Denver has been doing his game. Maybe he's back to his early 2017 form
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On August 12 2018 23:08 Musicus wrote: Now this group is interesting. Let's see what uthermal/Harstem can do vs Serral.
I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say, absolutely nothing
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Serral lost 2 drones to that ling attack? he's clearly in a slump
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damn Denver, I am impressed!
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I still think hydra/lurker will win out in the end.
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Denver put up a really good fight, but Serral just turned up the heat at the end there. GG.
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That was a very weird game.
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there's absolutely no need to pull 8 scvs
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Serral should only be allowed to make tier 1 units whilst playing on EU or NA
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Serral somehow goes up against 7 very well spread out siege tanks and wins the battles
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Uthermal played really well, almost no mistakes until that brutal blinding cloud. Yet Serral was never really challenged lol
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On August 13 2018 01:17 Noonius wrote: Serral should only be allowed to make tier 1 units whilst playing on EU or NA Maybe taking 10 percentage of the health from his units would be a good start.
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foreign terran beating serral, is the gap closing? Jk Serral somehow came out alive.
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how in the actual fuck is Serral still even alive
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uThermal, best terran in the world
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uthermal proxy raxes in set3 calling it right here
wait what map is set3 on
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I don't think its a good idea to go mech vs a dude that specializes at picking apart small openings
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How did Uthermal take a map off our God?
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Is it even possible not to spot burrow move roaches on redshift?
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On August 13 2018 01:58 Aeromi wrote: -_-
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idk, feels like uthermal could've killed the mid right base at least a couple times and was too afraid to do it, he needed to create chaos and instead stood still waiting for his doom.
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On August 13 2018 01:54 VengefulTree wrote: How did Uthermal take a map off our God? Hellbats.
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Noice disruptions. Not so noice dodges.
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uThermal's Widow Mines were just moving around the whole time...
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On August 13 2018 01:42 IshinShishi wrote: I don't think its a good idea to go mech vs a dude that specializes at picking apart small openings Is it better to go Bio vs a dude that beat INnoVation straight up?
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On August 12 2018 06:03 Athenau wrote: It's going to suck if the Korean SC2 scene dies and it's 60% Z everywhere. Then Zerg will probably be nerfed as blizzard balances the game around the highest skilled players. If foreigners become the highest skilled players the game will be balanced around them.
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On August 13 2018 02:48 Charoisaur wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2018 01:42 IshinShishi wrote: I don't think its a good idea to go mech vs a dude that specializes at picking apart small openings Is it better to go Bio vs a dude that beat INnoVation straight up? Yeah I think playing bio vs Snute is perfectly reasonable to be honest.
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Guys do you know if Reynor will play his matches from Korea since he is there for the GSL?
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Big Gabe looking good so far!
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Solid showing by Big Gabe!
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Soul has improved quite a lot lately, hasn't he? I think he's got a good shot at this.
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Man, watching MaNa's PvT as a non-Protoss is so frustrating/disgusting. The perfect mix of typical oldschool deathball plus all the other tools in the great book of bullshit. Let's see if souL can turn it around.
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How does Mana stay so patient I dont know. Please teach me!
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Well, that sure was more one sided than I thought it would be. Well done Mana!
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On August 19 2018 02:13 Silvana wrote: How does Mana stay so patient I dont know. Please teach me!
Roughly 56 years of experience of high level gaming probably helps out.
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Hope Dark is watching so he can see you can hold this if you don't go double evo and get super supply blocked. Nerchio still showing Korean Zergs the way.
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Hahaha Clem trashed Nerchio so hard the guy didn't even gg.
Maru level micro sometimes, very nice game!
edit: @Elentos: it wasn't the same build, Clem didn't pull scv
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On August 19 2018 23:18 Poopi wrote: Hahaha Clem trashed Nerchio so hard the guy didn't even gg.
Hahaha you think this is worth talking about in 2018.
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Clem is still too raw :/ Experience won that
Now it's full ZvZ until loser match
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On August 19 2018 23:45 Poopi wrote: Now it's full ZvZ until loser match So 1 match
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Yeah he seems very off compared to usual
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Is reynor straight up out of wcs montreal? I'm not sure exactly how this works
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On August 20 2018 00:50 Psychonian wrote: Is reynor straight up out of wcs montreal? I'm not sure exactly how this works He can still fly there and participate via the open bracket.
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On August 20 2018 00:50 Psychonian wrote: Is reynor straight up out of wcs montreal? I'm not sure exactly how this works
no it's just the qualifier for a high seed
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ah ok, i'm just getting back into the scene after being gone for a long time
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Reynor is not in Korea by the way.
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On August 20 2018 00:56 Aeromi wrote: Reynor is not in Korea by the way. thx for the clarification. O'Gaming is solid.
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On August 20 2018 00:58 JimmyJRaynor wrote:thx for the clarification. O'Gaming is solid. Scarlett said on her stream that he came back in Italy after losing his GSL group, she is more solid than O'Gaming.
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Cool to see Clem winning the battle of the Titans. Not the first and I'm sure, not the last match we'll see between him and Reynor.
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the lack of "gg"s at the end of Nerchio's losses are well known but a bit irritating imo
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GG Lambo! That was a sick game.
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why are those polish zergs are so impolite!? anyways.. well done lambo!
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well done by Blizzard to put these games on during California morning time so that its a good hour for European viewing.
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This is such a tilting game for Nerchio
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Wow, is Clem doing this? :D
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He did!
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In other news, salt prices are heavily falling in Poland right now as the market is being oversaturated.
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It's always so fun to see rage on stream :D
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SC2 is a young man's game.
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I think everyone would be upset after throwing a 2nd game like this.
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On August 20 2018 01:51 TheOneAboveU wrote: In other news, salt prices are heavily falling in Poland right now as the market is being oversaturated.
lmao! K+S bankruptcy coming up soon?
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On August 20 2018 01:50 Aeromi wrote:This is such a tilting game for Nerchio Tilting? Nerchio? Would've assumed that it would be enjoyable.
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Well that was a bit silly
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The old guard isn't letting the young guys get through easily.
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On August 20 2018 02:32 ZigguratOfUr wrote: The old guard isn't letting the young guys get through easily.
Nope. No beard, no freebies!
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So we got 5 Zergs, 2 Terran and one lonely Toss for the playoffs. Think about it, that is twice as many Terrans as Toss in EU??
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Young Reynor will now understand the menace of Jet Lag
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On August 20 2018 02:37 BaneRiders wrote:So we got 5 Zergs, 2 Terran and one lonely Toss for the playoffs. Think about it, that is twice as many Terrans as Toss in EU??
Terran has had as many or more players in the Ro8 of Challenger than Protoss at every single event this year.
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On August 20 2018 02:52 ZigguratOfUr wrote:Show nested quote +On August 20 2018 02:37 BaneRiders wrote:So we got 5 Zergs, 2 Terran and one lonely Toss for the playoffs. Think about it, that is twice as many Terrans as Toss in EU?? Terran has had as many or more players in the Ro8 of Challenger than Protoss at every single event this year.
Actually, last time around it was also only MaNa left in Ro8 now that I look back, and before that only Harstem. EU Toss = threatened species.
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On August 20 2018 05:00 BaneRiders wrote:Show nested quote +On August 20 2018 02:52 ZigguratOfUr wrote:On August 20 2018 02:37 BaneRiders wrote:So we got 5 Zergs, 2 Terran and one lonely Toss for the playoffs. Think about it, that is twice as many Terrans as Toss in EU?? Terran has had as many or more players in the Ro8 of Challenger than Protoss at every single event this year. Actually, last time around it was also only MaNa left in Ro8 now that I look back, and before that only Harstem. EU Toss = threatened species. Cuz Showtime is always busy skilling in Korea or having a slump
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And people were wondering if Namshar could beat Serral since he is so freaking good in ZvZ.
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On August 25 2018 21:55 Musicus wrote: And people were wondering if Namshar could beat Serral since he is so freaking good in ZvZ.
He's certainly not as good as Dark and even that was a 3-1. Not a nailbitingly close one either
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I feel like FearDragon and InControl have got a lot better at casting together. Their chemistry really wasn't great at first, but it seems like it's improved a lot and it's quite fun now.
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Easy win for Lambo, hope HeRoMaRinE can follow him into the Top 4!
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Nate and Incontrol just sound bored, and the cast is meandering, pointless. If they're that jaded they should retire and move onto something else.
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Wow Heromarine looks outclassed
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Your comment seems bored and jaded with our cast. If you feel that way you should just move on.
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Well, uThermal looked pretty stronk tbh - The only non-zerg still standing...
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On August 25 2018 23:16 iNcontroL wrote: Your comment seems bored and jaded with our cast. If you feel that way you should just move on.
Did you have your coffee this morning?
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On August 25 2018 23:20 BaneRiders wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2018 23:16 iNcontroL wrote: Your comment seems bored and jaded with our cast. If you feel that way you should just move on. Did you have your coffee this morning?
Coffee? I’m a Monster elemental.. and no
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On August 25 2018 23:21 iNcontroL wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2018 23:20 BaneRiders wrote:On August 25 2018 23:16 iNcontroL wrote: Your comment seems bored and jaded with our cast. If you feel that way you should just move on. Did you have your coffee this morning? Coffee? I’m a Monster elemental.. and no
Monster got you good, didn't it.
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zvz should be limited to BO3 by law
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On August 25 2018 23:26 Noonius wrote: zvz should be limited to BO3 by law
I bet we will have 3-2 in this quarter just to add insult to injury...
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Much like the casting your post is all cynical quippery and no substance. Don't take it personally. You're fine at HSC. You're fine at WCS main events. But if Challenger Playoffs ain't hype enough for you just don't do it. You literally went the entire HeroMarine uThermal series without saying anything substantial, and even tried to shut Nate down when he did try to say something remotely informative.
I can mute the TV or just wait for the casters to get rotated. I'm not going to stop watching something I'm passionate about just because you aren't. Edit: Your casting with Feardragon was much better btw.
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Well that was a tightly contested RO8. GG to the 4 better players
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Serral is so good, he was 100% dead.
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On August 26 2018 00:39 Aeromi wrote: Serral is so good, he was 100% dead. That Muta gamble really paid off. But his control is amazing too. Every time his mutas got low, he micro'd the weak ones back to get another volley off.
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Incontrol is not enjoying this :D
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Yogo and TKL are dying of excitement, i doubt english cast is half as passionned right here
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holy shit, how do you throw this game? lambo going full NA.
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rofl what is this, Joona.
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Geez Lambo are you serious?
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Serral survived amazingly from an early deficit, just long enough for Lambo to throw XD
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Casting was just horrible in that game. Almost made me want to mute it.
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the paranoia is real. 20% serral genius... 80% throw. the fear of winning.
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Honestly after that I wouldn't blame Lambo for just forfeiting the series
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Those mutas were really worth their minerals
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feardragon does well as a narrator.
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maybe lambo is so done with this series, that he now just wins it.
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Just get incontrol out of there.
Usually he is good...
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On August 26 2018 00:02 JasonOfAeson wrote: Much like the casting your post is all cynical quippery and no substance. Don't take it personally. You're fine at HSC. You're fine at WCS main events. But if Challenger Playoffs ain't hype enough for you just don't do it. You literally went the entire HeroMarine uThermal series without saying anything substantial, and even tried to shut Nate down when he did try to say something remotely informative.
I can mute the TV or just wait for the casters to get rotated. I'm not going to stop watching something I'm passionate about just because you aren't. Edit: Your casting with Feardragon was much better btw. anonymously criticizing someone on the internet about the quality of their presenting -- WHILE they're doing the presenting -- and then telling them to "not take it personally"
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this is why i thought the "caster feedback" thread was a problem in the sc2 general forum, we really should just remove this shit from the scene. literally no one ever needs to hear negative feedback about a caster, it's almost always just some creepy dude trying to bait incontrol because they know he posts here
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jesus, incontrol. You really went there. I do hope someone clipped it
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On August 26 2018 01:13 TheBloodyDwarf wrote: Just get incontrol out of there.
Usually he is good...
blame zvz
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Just a reminder Uthermal 5-0ed Elazer in the map test tournament.
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Aight I wasn't here for whatever happened earlier, but that Mensk and Raynor impression was AMAZING!
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I feel like they don't care about the game anymore.
Why were they up at 3AM PST? Why didn't Blizzard get some European casters?
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On August 26 2018 02:49 geokilla wrote: I feel like they don't care about the game anymore.
Why were they up at 3AM PST? Why didn't Blizzard get some European casters? Because our call time is at 4am and the studio is in California not Europe?
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Some people enjoy jokes / silly casts.. some don’t. Trying to tell me how to do it is funny we gonna keep Doing our thing. Can’t please everyone!
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Maybe the tiredness has been more noticeable, but I've enjoyed it overall.
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Reynor will be the new hope. Also, I'm picking up what you're putting down here Nate, and it's amazing. The force is strong with this one.
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Jokes are fine but I would also prefer casters following the game.
Right now its all great.
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Always nice to see lurkers lose a ZvZ.
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On August 26 2018 02:49 geokilla wrote: Why didn't Blizzard get some European casters?
Because then zero Americans would watch. If there's anything Amerians don't care about, it's people who speak with an accent.
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On August 26 2018 03:27 hobbyistGamedev wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2018 02:49 geokilla wrote: Why didn't Blizzard get some European casters? Because then zero Americans would watch. If there's anything Amerians don't care about, it's people who speak with an accent.
lol what.
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Most Americans would rather listen to a half-asleep incontrol doing prequel-memes for twenty minutes than listen to Rotterdam or Khador doing actual commentary.
That's not to say incontrol isn't a fantastic caster, don't get me wrong.
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On August 26 2018 03:22 TheBloodyDwarf wrote: Jokes are fine but I would also prefer casters following the game.
Right now its all great.
Like I said man.. we can’t make everyone happy. No amount of you saying “I prefer” changes that lol. I’m at peace that to some I’m amazing and to others I’m trash.
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Casters miss yet another runby. There were so many great counterattacks in these games and i feel like the only time it was mentioned was when MaNa lost the main fight, then afterwards they switched over to his zealots still wrecking drones.
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Elazer is making this exiting.
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On August 26 2018 03:33 hobbyistGamedev wrote: Most Americans would rather listen to a half-asleep incontrol doing prequel-memes for twenty minutes than listen to Rotterdam or Khador doing actual commentary.
That's not to say incontrol isn't a fantastic caster, don't get me wrong.
Yeah... I don't think I'm sold on American Starcraft fandom being such a hotbed of linguistic discrimination.
And wow, if Elazer wins this, it'll be the first time Serral will have lost (a Bo3+) against another foreigner in the last six months.
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On August 26 2018 03:38 ZigguratOfUr wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2018 03:33 hobbyistGamedev wrote: Most Americans would rather listen to a half-asleep incontrol doing prequel-memes for twenty minutes than listen to Rotterdam or Khador doing actual commentary.
That's not to say incontrol isn't a fantastic caster, don't get me wrong. Yeah... I don't think I'm sold on American Starcraft fandom being such a hotbed of linguistic discrimination. There's like 3 different accents per US state I can't imagine Americans being that sensitive about accents.
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Feardragon and Nathanias are trying really hard to defend Blueshift as not a Catalyst-clone, but even the mapmaker admits that he basically rotated Catalyst (which he also made) and threw in a dash of Frozen Temple.
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Finally some competitive matches
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On August 26 2018 03:42 ZigguratOfUr wrote: Feardragon and Nathanias are trying really hard to defend Blueshift as not a Catalyst-clone, but even the mapmaker admits that he basically rotated Catalyst (which he also made) and threw in a dash of Frozen Temple. I don't really agree, it feels very different to play on, mainly because of the lack of a central forward 4th. All maps have some similar features
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On August 26 2018 03:47 Charoisaur wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2018 03:42 ZigguratOfUr wrote: Feardragon and Nathanias are trying really hard to defend Blueshift as not a Catalyst-clone, but even the mapmaker admits that he basically rotated Catalyst (which he also made) and threw in a dash of Frozen Temple. I don't really agree, it feels very different to play on, mainly because of the lack of a central forward 4th. All maps have some similar features You disagree with the mapmaker saying he took Catalyst, rotated it and changed the middle to be more like Frozen Temple? They're not straight up copies of each other but they don't play out grotesquely different do be honest.
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On August 26 2018 03:47 Charoisaur wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2018 03:42 ZigguratOfUr wrote: Feardragon and Nathanias are trying really hard to defend Blueshift as not a Catalyst-clone, but even the mapmaker admits that he basically rotated Catalyst (which he also made) and threw in a dash of Frozen Temple. I don't really agree, it feels very different to play on, mainly because of the lack of a central forward 4th. All maps have some similar features
It's a bit different. Different enough that I don't mind having them in two consecutive pools, but they're similar enough that I find GSL's choice of having both of them in the same pool dubious.
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On August 26 2018 03:50 ZigguratOfUr wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2018 03:47 Charoisaur wrote:On August 26 2018 03:42 ZigguratOfUr wrote: Feardragon and Nathanias are trying really hard to defend Blueshift as not a Catalyst-clone, but even the mapmaker admits that he basically rotated Catalyst (which he also made) and threw in a dash of Frozen Temple. I don't really agree, it feels very different to play on, mainly because of the lack of a central forward 4th. All maps have some similar features It's a bit different. Different enough that I don't mind having them in two consecutive pools, but they're similar enough that I find GSL's choice of having both of them in the same pool dubious. Admittedly it would have been more dubious to keep Eastwatch instead. But they could have added Para Site or Cerulean to replace Eastwatch. I approve of them taking LRSL's idea to the next level and adding Atlas to the map pool tho.
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I think Koreans (both pros and mapmakers) just really like the thug-of-war type of maps like Blue Shift, Catalyst, Overgrowth, or Newkirk. That and big 4p rotational maps :D
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I think they just like maps like that because those allow them the strategic flexibility of what they want to do, they don't force any particular way to play and allow anything from stinky cheese to split map.
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On August 26 2018 03:48 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2018 03:47 Charoisaur wrote:On August 26 2018 03:42 ZigguratOfUr wrote: Feardragon and Nathanias are trying really hard to defend Blueshift as not a Catalyst-clone, but even the mapmaker admits that he basically rotated Catalyst (which he also made) and threw in a dash of Frozen Temple. I don't really agree, it feels very different to play on, mainly because of the lack of a central forward 4th. All maps have some similar features You disagree with the mapmaker saying he took Catalyst, rotated it and changed the middle to be more like Frozen Temple? They're not straight up copies of each other but they don't play out grotesquely different do be honest. I don't disagree with what the mapmaker said but I think what he did was enough to make the map very different.
I think both, Coda and Overgrowth have more similarity to Catalyst than Blueshift. Standard maps are bound to be quite similar.
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On August 26 2018 03:53 Ej_ wrote: I think Koreans (both pros and mapmakers) just really like the thug-of-war type of maps like Blue Shift, Catalyst, Overgrowth, or Newkirk. That and big 4p rotational maps :D
Not just rotational, judging by the way they randomly added Deadwing to the pool last year.
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On August 26 2018 04:00 ZigguratOfUr wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2018 03:53 Ej_ wrote: I think Koreans (both pros and mapmakers) just really like the thug-of-war type of maps like Blue Shift, Catalyst, Overgrowth, or Newkirk. That and big 4p rotational maps :D Not just rotational, judging by the way they randomly added Deadwing to the pool last year. Inno not remembering it was vertical/cross only and thus accidentally scouting a proxy stargate was fabulous.
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On August 26 2018 04:03 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2018 04:00 ZigguratOfUr wrote:On August 26 2018 03:53 Ej_ wrote: I think Koreans (both pros and mapmakers) just really like the thug-of-war type of maps like Blue Shift, Catalyst, Overgrowth, or Newkirk. That and big 4p rotational maps :D Not just rotational, judging by the way they randomly added Deadwing to the pool last year. Inno not remembering it was vertical/cross only and thus accidentally scouting a proxy stargate was fabulous. Umm, it's called star sense.
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How much is the +3 armor vs +2 armor worth in roach wars?
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On August 26 2018 04:05 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2018 04:03 Elentos wrote:On August 26 2018 04:00 ZigguratOfUr wrote:On August 26 2018 03:53 Ej_ wrote: I think Koreans (both pros and mapmakers) just really like the thug-of-war type of maps like Blue Shift, Catalyst, Overgrowth, or Newkirk. That and big 4p rotational maps :D Not just rotational, judging by the way they randomly added Deadwing to the pool last year. Inno not remembering it was vertical/cross only and thus accidentally scouting a proxy stargate was fabulous. Umm, it's called star sense. Don't lie to yourself, at our MMR it's called maphacking.
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On August 26 2018 04:05 ZigguratOfUr wrote: How much is the +3 armor vs +2 armor worth in roach wars? Worthless in roach vs roach. 2 armor upgrades = 1 attack upgrade
I don't know the math for hydras and ravagers.
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This is pretty tense. That last game was not a straightforward one.
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Serral Invictus won't be broken.
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Best foreigner with another win. GG Serral. Good he didn't lose after being down 0-2.
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Lambo curse if real.
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4 for 4. Perfect WCS 2018 sweep, and GSL vs the world win. Absolute legend.
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On August 26 2018 04:40 Ciaus_Dronu wrote: 4 for 4. Perfect WCS 2018 sweep, and GSL vs the world win. Absolute legend. This was just the qualifier, but yes he'll do it hopefully. :D
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GG! Serral is a beast and the great form continues. It's absurd someone could take all four WCS trophies but this time is getting more and more likely with Serral being on top of his game. Such a phenomenon in starcraft.
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Great showing by Lambo and Elazer though!
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With the strong result by Elazer it's gonna be a big day for True tomorrow, a win in chalenger in the only way for him to comeback at less then 300 points of the 8th place meaning he would only need to go 1 playoff round further than Elazer to catch him (and also further then Snute). If he dosen't win chalenger he will need to do at least 2 round better then Elazer or reach the final to catch him.
Also both Heromarine and Nerchio missed their opportunity to make their life much easier for Blizzcon, Nerchio would have pass Has in 5th with a win over Elazer essentially clinching a Blizzcon spot and Heromarine would have pass Nerchio with a win over Uthermal (assuming Nerchio still lost). I guess congratz Elazer and Uthermal for doing everything to keep their hopes alive!
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On August 26 2018 04:46 HolydaKing wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2018 04:40 Ciaus_Dronu wrote: 4 for 4. Perfect WCS 2018 sweep, and GSL vs the world win. Absolute legend. This was just the qualifier, but yes he'll do it hopefully. :D
Ooooh, that explains the low interest XD Well lol RIP me for getting that so wrong.
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How did Mana fair against Lambo? I hope he makes a good run in Montreal
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On August 26 2018 06:51 VengefulTree wrote: How did Mana fair against Lambo? I hope he makes a good run in Montreal He got dumpstered.
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god bless incontrol, he is an sc national tresure.
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