Group Stage: March 11-12, 05:00 GMT (+00:00)
Playoffs: March 13-17
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Casters: RotterDam, Wardi, Rapid, Lowko
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pvsnp
7676 Posts
Group Stage: March 11-12, 05:00 GMT (+00:00) Playoffs: March 13-17 WESG SC2 Stage | WESG Main Stage Casters: RotterDam, Wardi, Rapid, Lowko World Electronic Sports Games 2018 | ||
pvsnp
7676 Posts
Schedule courtesy of Wardi: 1. Scarlett Vs MacSed 2. Stephano vs TooDming 3. Reynor vs Probe 4. Kelazhur vs TIME 5. Reynor vs PtitDrogo 6. INnoVation vs Stephano 7. iAsonu vs Probe 8. Rail vs TIME 9. Reynor vs iAsonu 10. Kelazhur vs SortOf 11. Scarlett vs Bly 12. Kelazhur vs Rail | ||
Die4Ever
United States17421 Posts
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digmouse
China6271 Posts
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chipmonklord17
United States11944 Posts
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pvsnp
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Doko
Argentina1737 Posts
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chipmonklord17
United States11944 Posts
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GoloSC2
702 Posts
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Poopi
France12454 Posts
How can you not improve at a MU after all this time losing in it, while playing in EU where there are a lot of good zergs to practice with? Only saw the 0-2 result but still -_- | ||
Tsubbi
Germany7937 Posts
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starkiller123
United States4029 Posts
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starkiller123
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fastr
France901 Posts
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starkiller123
United States4029 Posts
On March 12 2019 17:16 fastr wrote: Drogo brought his A game today, happy for him. Now he has a legit shot at first place and doable RO16 to enter the money. I hope he has a good run this tournament, he’s not been doing well for a while now | ||
Tsubbi
Germany7937 Posts
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FBTsingLoong
China410 Posts
On March 12 2019 17:39 Tsubbi wrote: stephano banking 2k after the pause not doing anything, hotkeys not working or what? so many technical difficulties The casters said it was sound problem. | ||
Geo.Rion
7375 Posts
Also that was the most ineffective flank in the history of failed flanks | ||
Kimb3r
Germany744 Posts
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sneakyfox
8216 Posts
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fastr
France901 Posts
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Poopi
France12454 Posts
On March 12 2019 18:08 fastr wrote: Stephano put out a good fight in game 2, but Inno's macro and late game is absolutely incredible, if Serral couldn't crack that egg I'm not sure anybody can, maybe Rogue? Rogue and Dark probably Maybe even Solar | ||
Durnuu
13258 Posts
On March 12 2019 18:08 fastr wrote: Stephano put out a good fight in game 2, but Inno's macro and late game is absolutely incredible, if Serral couldn't crack that egg I'm not sure anybody can, maybe Rogue? Meomaika | ||
MarianoSC2
Slovakia1855 Posts
On March 12 2019 16:55 Poopi wrote: Stephano keeps disappointing again and again... So sad to see him fall even further from his peak How can you not improve at a MU after all this time losing in it, while playing in EU where there are a lot of good zergs to practice with? Only saw the 0-2 result but still -_- This so much ! How was Stephano even good once? He is so terrible I cant even find the rights words for it. And sure, he occasionally has good games against P and T, but how on earth can you be a gold leaguer in ZvZ playing on Pro level in a region full of top Zergs? Its just so strange... | ||
Geo.Rion
7375 Posts
On March 12 2019 18:12 MarianoSC2 wrote: Show nested quote + On March 12 2019 16:55 Poopi wrote: Stephano keeps disappointing again and again... So sad to see him fall even further from his peak How can you not improve at a MU after all this time losing in it, while playing in EU where there are a lot of good zergs to practice with? Only saw the 0-2 result but still -_- This so much ! How was Stephano even good once? He is so terrible I cant even find the rights words for it. And sure, he occasionally has good games against P and T, but how on earth can you be a gold leaguer in ZvZ playing on Pro level in a region full of top Zergs? Its just so strange... Rotti said on stream that he broken 7k mmr on europe recently, and to do that he must have had to face a throng of zergs. Yet he s being trashed in ZvZ at every single tournament, and his other MUs dont seem to be that much better, to make up for the losses in the mirror mu | ||
Harris1st
Germany6036 Posts
On March 12 2019 18:25 Geo.Rion wrote: Show nested quote + On March 12 2019 18:12 MarianoSC2 wrote: On March 12 2019 16:55 Poopi wrote: Stephano keeps disappointing again and again... So sad to see him fall even further from his peak How can you not improve at a MU after all this time losing in it, while playing in EU where there are a lot of good zergs to practice with? Only saw the 0-2 result but still -_- This so much ! How was Stephano even good once? He is so terrible I cant even find the rights words for it. And sure, he occasionally has good games against P and T, but how on earth can you be a gold leaguer in ZvZ playing on Pro level in a region full of top Zergs? Its just so strange... Rotti said on stream that he broken 7k mmr on europe recently, and to do that he must have had to face a throng of zergs. Yet he s being trashed in ZvZ at every single tournament, and his other MUs dont seem to be that much better, to make up for the losses in the mirror mu Well, winning a ZvT vs Inno is one of the most challenging games there are, so that's understandable. Losing vs Toodming on the other hand is avoidable. I guess that was his tournament life right there | ||
neutralrobot
Australia1025 Posts
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Poopi
France12454 Posts
On March 12 2019 18:25 Geo.Rion wrote: Show nested quote + On March 12 2019 18:12 MarianoSC2 wrote: On March 12 2019 16:55 Poopi wrote: Stephano keeps disappointing again and again... So sad to see him fall even further from his peak How can you not improve at a MU after all this time losing in it, while playing in EU where there are a lot of good zergs to practice with? Only saw the 0-2 result but still -_- This so much ! How was Stephano even good once? He is so terrible I cant even find the rights words for it. And sure, he occasionally has good games against P and T, but how on earth can you be a gold leaguer in ZvZ playing on Pro level in a region full of top Zergs? Its just so strange... Rotti said on stream that he broken 7k mmr on europe recently, and to do that he must have had to face a throng of zergs. Yet he s being trashed in ZvZ at every single tournament, and his other MUs dont seem to be that much better, to make up for the losses in the mirror mu He has broken 7k mmr in EU numerous times, finishes regularly in the top 8/16 of EU GM, yet he can't have a good result in tournaments. It's really weird. At this point watching him play you forget he was the foreigner GOAT once, and he is not that old. | ||
deacon.frost
Czech Republic12115 Posts
On March 12 2019 18:25 Geo.Rion wrote: Show nested quote + On March 12 2019 18:12 MarianoSC2 wrote: On March 12 2019 16:55 Poopi wrote: Stephano keeps disappointing again and again... So sad to see him fall even further from his peak How can you not improve at a MU after all this time losing in it, while playing in EU where there are a lot of good zergs to practice with? Only saw the 0-2 result but still -_- This so much ! How was Stephano even good once? He is so terrible I cant even find the rights words for it. And sure, he occasionally has good games against P and T, but how on earth can you be a gold leaguer in ZvZ playing on Pro level in a region full of top Zergs? Its just so strange... Rotti said on stream that he broken 7k mmr on europe recently, and to do that he must have had to face a throng of zergs. Yet he s being trashed in ZvZ at every single tournament, and his other MUs dont seem to be that much better, to make up for the losses in the mirror mu WCS consists of plenty of Zergs and Protosses. Having a weak ZvZ cannot be saved by good ZvT and ZvP as ZvZ makes up for almost a half of your matches. This can work in Code S where you have more Terrans. | ||
Geo.Rion
7375 Posts
On March 12 2019 18:42 deacon.frost wrote: Show nested quote + On March 12 2019 18:25 Geo.Rion wrote: On March 12 2019 18:12 MarianoSC2 wrote: On March 12 2019 16:55 Poopi wrote: Stephano keeps disappointing again and again... So sad to see him fall even further from his peak How can you not improve at a MU after all this time losing in it, while playing in EU where there are a lot of good zergs to practice with? Only saw the 0-2 result but still -_- This so much ! How was Stephano even good once? He is so terrible I cant even find the rights words for it. And sure, he occasionally has good games against P and T, but how on earth can you be a gold leaguer in ZvZ playing on Pro level in a region full of top Zergs? Its just so strange... Rotti said on stream that he broken 7k mmr on europe recently, and to do that he must have had to face a throng of zergs. Yet he s being trashed in ZvZ at every single tournament, and his other MUs dont seem to be that much better, to make up for the losses in the mirror mu WCS consists of plenty of Zergs and Protosses. Having a weak ZvZ cannot be saved by good ZvT and ZvP as ZvZ makes up for almost a half of your matches. This can work in Code S where you have more Terrans. But how is he on the top of the ladder when over half of the top euro GMs are zergs? | ||
Poopi
France12454 Posts
On March 12 2019 18:51 Geo.Rion wrote: Show nested quote + On March 12 2019 18:42 deacon.frost wrote: On March 12 2019 18:25 Geo.Rion wrote: On March 12 2019 18:12 MarianoSC2 wrote: On March 12 2019 16:55 Poopi wrote: Stephano keeps disappointing again and again... So sad to see him fall even further from his peak How can you not improve at a MU after all this time losing in it, while playing in EU where there are a lot of good zergs to practice with? Only saw the 0-2 result but still -_- This so much ! How was Stephano even good once? He is so terrible I cant even find the rights words for it. And sure, he occasionally has good games against P and T, but how on earth can you be a gold leaguer in ZvZ playing on Pro level in a region full of top Zergs? Its just so strange... Rotti said on stream that he broken 7k mmr on europe recently, and to do that he must have had to face a throng of zergs. Yet he s being trashed in ZvZ at every single tournament, and his other MUs dont seem to be that much better, to make up for the losses in the mirror mu WCS consists of plenty of Zergs and Protosses. Having a weak ZvZ cannot be saved by good ZvT and ZvP as ZvZ makes up for almost a half of your matches. This can work in Code S where you have more Terrans. But how is he on the top of the ladder when over half of the top euro GMs are zergs? Maybe he is farming T/P a bit below his MMR and not losing much? You can gain MMR playing almost only vs inferior players (but you don't gain much points and you can lose a lot of points if you happen to lose one game) I guess you need to watch his matchup winrates ingame to be sure but his ZvZ is probably his weakest here too | ||
Doko
Argentina1737 Posts
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12115 Posts
On March 12 2019 18:51 Geo.Rion wrote: Show nested quote + On March 12 2019 18:42 deacon.frost wrote: On March 12 2019 18:25 Geo.Rion wrote: On March 12 2019 18:12 MarianoSC2 wrote: On March 12 2019 16:55 Poopi wrote: Stephano keeps disappointing again and again... So sad to see him fall even further from his peak How can you not improve at a MU after all this time losing in it, while playing in EU where there are a lot of good zergs to practice with? Only saw the 0-2 result but still -_- This so much ! How was Stephano even good once? He is so terrible I cant even find the rights words for it. And sure, he occasionally has good games against P and T, but how on earth can you be a gold leaguer in ZvZ playing on Pro level in a region full of top Zergs? Its just so strange... Rotti said on stream that he broken 7k mmr on europe recently, and to do that he must have had to face a throng of zergs. Yet he s being trashed in ZvZ at every single tournament, and his other MUs dont seem to be that much better, to make up for the losses in the mirror mu WCS consists of plenty of Zergs and Protosses. Having a weak ZvZ cannot be saved by good ZvT and ZvP as ZvZ makes up for almost a half of your matches. This can work in Code S where you have more Terrans. But how is he on the top of the ladder when over half of the top euro GMs are zergs? Don't know, but his winrates should be visible on his ladder account, aren't they? But I can tell you my experience, sure, I am not GM I leave every barcode, every mirror and every random(I play unranked). yet if I play enough I can get into the league I should be in(better said - I play vs people who are in the league I belong to ). Sure, on my level ZvZ/ZvR/Zv|||| don't make 50 % of my games, on the other hand I don't win 100 % of the time the rest of the games. Mind you I have roughly 5 % win rate in ZvZ(sometimes the other player leaves faster ) Think about that. Yes, I am nowhere near GM but it should be possible to be that high with bad ZvZ. It's still a ladder BO1, even BO3 in SC2 is considered volatile. | ||
Poopi
France12454 Posts
Stephano also lost to gogojoey? Is he sick or something at this point? Thankfully he didn't qualify for France, what a shameful performance. | ||
Geo.Rion
7375 Posts
On March 12 2019 19:03 Poopi wrote: Am I reading liquipedia right? Stephano also lost to gogojoey? Is he sick or something at this point? Thankfully he didn't qualify for France, what a shameful performance. Knowing him, he probably threw the games after realizing he's pretty much out, went with some meme-allins probably | ||
Poopi
France12454 Posts
On March 12 2019 19:05 Geo.Rion wrote: Show nested quote + On March 12 2019 19:03 Poopi wrote: Am I reading liquipedia right? Stephano also lost to gogojoey? Is he sick or something at this point? Thankfully he didn't qualify for France, what a shameful performance. Knowing him, he probably threw the games after realizing he's pretty much out, went with some meme-allins probably At least PtitDrogo is carrying the french flag by beating the overrated Reynor. Hopefully he and DnS manage to qualify | ||
DBooN
Germany2701 Posts
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freeamount
China202 Posts
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zergtat
Hong Kong853 Posts
I remembered in 2010, 2011 we played tons of games together (WOL diamond only), at that time he was still so young but he keeps asking for games! S glad to see him achieved this much! | ||
sudete
Singapore3040 Posts
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DreamOen
Spain1400 Posts
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TheOneAboveU
Germany3367 Posts
On March 12 2019 19:21 DreamOen wrote: Where can I see Neeb vs Serral and Innovation games? vods are beeing really hard to track Neeb vs. Serral and INnoVation vs. Stephano were definitely shown on the German stream, so you might want to check there. | ||
GoloSC2
702 Posts
On March 12 2019 19:21 DreamOen wrote: Where can I see Neeb vs Serral and Innovation games? vods are beeing really hard to track not entirely sure, but i think psinsin had inno vs toodming on at some point | ||
Nakajin
Canada8747 Posts
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HolydaKing
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D-light
Finland7364 Posts
On March 12 2019 19:21 DreamOen wrote: Where can I see Neeb vs Serral and Innovation games? vods are beeing really hard to track Serral vs Neeb https://www.twitch.tv/videos/393771368?t=00h26m02s Innovation vs Stephano https://www.twitch.tv/videos/394250237?t=03h58m22s | ||
Geo.Rion
7375 Posts
On March 12 2019 19:20 sudete wrote: Joey and IA only have to win one more series to guarantee progress? No, it is entirely possible to not advance with a 4-1 score. Joey has to play Innovation, which is probably a loss, so he's gonna play a winner take all vs Toodming. As for IA, it's similar, he has yet to play Drogo and Reynor, and has a map score disadvantage, so it's highly likely he s gonna get knocked out in a tiebreaker situation | ||
FBTsingLoong
China410 Posts
On March 12 2019 19:21 DreamOen wrote: Where can I see Neeb vs Serral and Innovation games? vods are beeing really hard to track I only got vod in Chinese.You can turn off the sound if you don't want to listen to CN casters. day 1 :https://www.bilibili.com/video/av45980247 day 2:https://www.bilibili.com/video/av46067159 | ||
stilt
France2628 Posts
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Geo.Rion
7375 Posts
Or Reynor would need to lose to Ryu 2-0 | ||
deacon.frost
Czech Republic12115 Posts
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Inflicted
Australia18228 Posts
On March 12 2019 20:47 deacon.frost wrote: BTW anyone knows what happened to Jarppi? | ||
deacon.frost
Czech Republic12115 Posts
On March 12 2019 20:50 Inflicted wrote: Show nested quote + On March 12 2019 20:47 deacon.frost wrote: BTW anyone knows what happened to Jarppi? https://twitter.com/TeamDuSt/status/1105310537334878208 Ah, thanks. Sad panda + Show Spoiler + Wouldn't happen with MasterCard | ||
TheOneAboveU
Germany3367 Posts
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Poopi
France12454 Posts
On March 12 2019 20:56 TheOneAboveU wrote: Stephano only second best player from Africa so far... let's see if the can win some maps to catch up to Drager. Let's settle this in Nation Wars | ||
BerserkSword
United States2123 Posts
On March 12 2019 19:21 DreamOen wrote: Where can I see Neeb vs Serral and Innovation games? vods are beeing really hard to track neeb vs serral is already on youtube type in need vs serral wesg and it's there. it's in chinese though | ||
Harris1st
Germany6036 Posts
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Geo.Rion
7375 Posts
On March 12 2019 21:04 Harris1st wrote: Kelazhur taking some pages out of Gumiho's book Kelazhur doing everything in his power to throw the game, but i dont think it s possible at this point | ||
BerserkSword
United States2123 Posts
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Harris1st
Germany6036 Posts
On March 12 2019 21:11 BerserkSword wrote: what is zerg supposed to do against late game terran lol Mind control a SCV and build Cattlebruisers of course! | ||
MarianoSC2
Slovakia1855 Posts
On March 12 2019 21:11 BerserkSword wrote: what is zerg supposed to do against late game terran lol Just play like Dark or Rogue | ||
Geo.Rion
7375 Posts
On March 12 2019 21:16 MarianoSC2 wrote: Show nested quote + On March 12 2019 21:11 BerserkSword wrote: what is zerg supposed to do against late game terran lol Just play like Dark or Rogue Which games are you referring to? Have there been recent ultra late game ZvT wins? Genuinely asking btw, not trolling | ||
BerserkSword
United States2123 Posts
On March 12 2019 21:16 MarianoSC2 wrote: Show nested quote + On March 12 2019 21:11 BerserkSword wrote: what is zerg supposed to do against late game terran lol Just play like Dark or Rogue Rogue just lost to Gumiho's late game terran in IEM tho | ||
BerserkSword
United States2123 Posts
On March 12 2019 21:17 Geo.Rion wrote: Show nested quote + On March 12 2019 21:16 MarianoSC2 wrote: On March 12 2019 21:11 BerserkSword wrote: what is zerg supposed to do against late game terran lol Just play like Dark or Rogue Which games are you referring to? Have there been recent ultra late game ZvT wins? Genuinely asking btw, not trolling Scarlett beat Special in WCS a few weeks ago, but special threw imo | ||
MarianoSC2
Slovakia1855 Posts
On March 12 2019 21:17 Geo.Rion wrote: Show nested quote + On March 12 2019 21:16 MarianoSC2 wrote: On March 12 2019 21:11 BerserkSword wrote: what is zerg supposed to do against late game terran lol Just play like Dark or Rogue Which games are you referring to? Have there been recent ultra late game ZvT wins? Genuinely asking btw, not trolling To be completely honest I havent seen any. Terrans try to end game early/mid game and Zergs usually win once they transition to GGlords. Inno vs Serral and Gumi vs Serral was the only relevant pro game in a long time I saw go that late. And it looked like once Terran goes into BC Raven its very hard for the Zerg. Although I still think that Inno is simply a better player in the matchup than Serral is, and the longer the game goes, the better it is for Inno, he always was the best late game TvZ wasnt he? | ||
Harris1st
Germany6036 Posts
1. Play Zerg 2. Make Nydus 3. Win game 4. Profit | ||
Liquid`Snute
Norway839 Posts
On March 12 2019 21:11 BerserkSword wrote: what is zerg supposed to do against late game terran lol That terran style just happens to look ridiculous when it does win, it's quite okay to play against if you have a plan just need to get infestor and eventually BLs, take very patient fights with the endgame hive army and terran can't really do much then. Yes you can't really attack for what feels like forever. But you can army-split and position and spread creep. Terran barely has any anti air or anti-burrowed infestor stuff with this comp so you have a lot of freedom if you make enough BLs and can transfuse them too + sneaky infestors dodging thors/lib circles from underground. If sortof had a bit of a better game and engagement he'd win. He was playing really well with the infestors earlier but still some mistakes. It's easy to take damage or be distracted by cyclones. I don't find this style very OP, it's just tedious to play against because you get compressed into a tennis ball while terran takes 10 bases. But it's not that big of a deal because it's all about the 4-5base army and one or two fights in the end. If you retain the god hive zerg army and unlock your 5th and 6th, terran won't have the mad bank to switch into full sky terran or ghosts or anything due to their ridiculous cyclone spending.. But if your defense or fight isn't convincing enough, they'll manage to make the switch. It's one of the more interesting and crazy mech styles to watch. When you have a plan as zerg it can be pretty fun to play against too. Bit of a meme style from terran so if you do manage to defend well and ultimately win the big fight it's pretty rewarding. | ||
Kimb3r
Germany744 Posts
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Geo.Rion
7375 Posts
On March 12 2019 21:33 Kimb3r wrote: SortOf plays the wrong race.. he should play Toss, play def and reactive all game and then hit with the deathball... I think he s doing alright, lol | ||
Kimb3r
Germany744 Posts
On March 12 2019 21:36 Geo.Rion wrote: Show nested quote + On March 12 2019 21:33 Kimb3r wrote: SortOf plays the wrong race.. he should play Toss, play def and reactive all game and then hit with the deathball... I think he s doing alright, lol haha yeah now he just wrecked Khela with that one attack :D | ||
MarianoSC2
Slovakia1855 Posts
It was a big mistake by Kela though, he could have transitioned much sooner with the Eco advantage he had. | ||
HolydaKing
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Kimb3r
Germany744 Posts
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Nakajin
Canada8747 Posts
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BerserkSword
United States2123 Posts
On March 12 2019 21:23 Liquid`Snute wrote: Show nested quote + On March 12 2019 21:11 BerserkSword wrote: what is zerg supposed to do against late game terran lol That terran style just happens to look ridiculous when it does win, it's quite okay to play against if you have a plan just need to get infestor and eventually BLs, take very patient fights with the endgame hive army and terran can't really do much then. Yes you can't really attack for what feels like forever. But you can army-split and position and spread creep. Terran barely has any anti air or anti-burrowed infestor stuff with this comp so you have a lot of freedom if you make enough BLs and can transfuse them too + sneaky infestors dodging thors/lib circles from underground. If sortof had a bit of a better game and engagement he'd win. He was playing really well with the infestors earlier but still some mistakes. It's easy to take damage or be distracted by cyclones. I don't find this style very OP, it's just tedious to play against because you get compressed into a tennis ball while terran takes 10 bases. But it's not that big of a deal because it's all about the 4-5base army and one or two fights in the end. If you retain the god hive zerg army and unlock your 5th and 6th, terran won't have the mad bank to switch into full sky terran or ghosts or anything due to their ridiculous cyclone spending.. But if your defense or fight isn't convincing enough, they'll manage to make the switch. It's one of the more interesting and crazy mech styles to watch. When you have a plan as zerg it can be pretty fun to play against too. Bit of a meme style from terran so if you do manage to defend well and ultimately win the big fight it's pretty rewarding. input from the man himself, thanks snute i dont play zerg but my mind is blown at how you zerg players can go toe to toe with late game terran. Ghost snipe + nuke just looks so hard to play against as late game zerg. not to mention these new bc styles | ||
Nakajin
Canada8747 Posts
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sneakyfox
8216 Posts
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Nakajin
Canada8747 Posts
A battle of the group titan between INno and Gogojoey both at 6-0 Stephano trying to defend his title of best player in Africa against Drager with a win over Yohilo eGGz vs TooDming with both players hopes on the line What a time to be alive Edit: hey it's already played | ||
Poopi
France12454 Posts
One more match till money | ||
Geo.Rion
7375 Posts
On March 12 2019 22:01 Poopi wrote: Congratulations PtitDrogo! Very good performance so far, hopefully he doesn't get rewarded with Serral first round though One more match till money DNS is also through, so it s possible that one of the games next round gonna be an all french PvP, ensuring some cash influx to the french economy | ||
Kimb3r
Germany744 Posts
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vult
United States9386 Posts
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Jerom
Netherlands588 Posts
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Harris1st
Germany6036 Posts
On March 12 2019 22:30 Jerom wrote: I must say this format really isn't the greatest. Lots of downtime on the stream and honestly these aren't really the highest level games. Even in the playoffs the first few rounds will probably be walkovers. I much prefer the format of for example IEM. I said it yesterday and I'll say it again: Just be glad this tournament happens at all | ||
Geo.Rion
7375 Posts
On March 12 2019 22:30 Jerom wrote: I must say this format really isn't the greatest. Lots of downtime on the stream and honestly these aren't really the highest level games. Even in the playoffs the first few rounds will probably be walkovers. I much prefer the format of for example IEM. It s not the format's fault, or at least not really. At IEM, everyone was there, like literally all the korean pros, except for Classic who couldnt make it due to some paperwork/ military drafting issue. And i cant think of any foreigner semi-pro who wasnt there. So obviously, there were a lot more big names in the group stage of the main events, and then in the single elimination bracket. | ||
MarianoSC2
Slovakia1855 Posts
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sneakyfox
8216 Posts
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Xain0n
Italy3963 Posts
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Geo.Rion
7375 Posts
On March 12 2019 22:38 Xain0n wrote: TIME needs to win at all costs, right? As much as I get it, he either goes first place or elimination as even losing 1-2 would put mean he'd have same map score as Rail , having lost the head to head. I think so. If he loses 2-1 then it's a 3 way tie in series score between Rail, Kelazhur and Time. Mapscore would be 5-4, 5-4, 5-5. Im assuming at this point Khelazur is eliminated and they take the H2H between the two 3-2 (5-4) players. Edit: RIP my guardian pic, which I had for so many years | ||
Harris1st
Germany6036 Posts
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yht9657
1809 Posts
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freeamount
China202 Posts
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Aeromi
France14446 Posts
On March 12 2019 23:06 freeamount wrote: The Chinese casters Xiaose and F91 will draw the match-up of playoff on main stage stream. Can you post the link of the Chinese stream? Thank you. | ||
Nakajin
Canada8747 Posts
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Geo.Rion
7375 Posts
The one exception is Maru, who went 4-1 and claimed the first place with tiebreaker rule, h2h vs special. | ||
sneakyfox
8216 Posts
On March 12 2019 23:06 freeamount wrote: The Chinese casters Xiaose and F91 will draw the match-up of playoff on main stage stream. Please post link! | ||
Harris1st
Germany6036 Posts
On March 12 2019 23:18 sneakyfox wrote: Show nested quote + On March 12 2019 23:06 freeamount wrote: The Chinese casters Xiaose and F91 will draw the match-up of playoff on main stage stream. Please post link! I think the german stream has it too. No idea though, I don't speak Chinese | ||
FuRong
New Zealand3089 Posts
On March 12 2019 23:18 sneakyfox wrote: Please post link! https://www.huya.com/wesg2 | ||
sneakyfox
8216 Posts
Great, thanks! | ||
sneakyfox
8216 Posts
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freeamount
China202 Posts
On March 12 2019 23:10 Aeromi wrote: Show nested quote + On March 12 2019 23:06 freeamount wrote: The Chinese casters Xiaose and F91 will draw the match-up of playoff on main stage stream. Can you post the link of the Chinese stream? Thank you. https://www.huya.com/wesg5 main stage https://www.huya.com/wesg2 second stage | ||
freeamount
China202 Posts
On March 12 2019 23:18 sneakyfox wrote: Show nested quote + On March 12 2019 23:06 freeamount wrote: The Chinese casters Xiaose and F91 will draw the match-up of playoff on main stage stream. Please post link! https://www.huya.com/wesg5 main stage https://www.huya.com/wesg2 second stage | ||
TheOneAboveU
Germany3367 Posts
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sneakyfox
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sneakyfox
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sneakyfox
8216 Posts
And winner gets Dark v Toodming | ||
Poopi
France12454 Posts
Possible Maru - Serral final detected Auto-destruction from Maru imminent before the finals | ||
Geo.Rion
7375 Posts
On March 11 2019 22:56 FuRong wrote: MaNa's reward for 10-0ing his group could be Serral in the ro16. this guy called it yesterday | ||
sneakyfox
8216 Posts
On March 12 2019 23:32 Poopi wrote: Alert, alert Possible Maru - Serral final detected Auto-destruction from Maru imminent before the finals It's Dark and Serral in the upper half, Maru and Inno in the lower half Innovation is going to take out Maru | ||
Geo.Rion
7375 Posts
On March 12 2019 23:33 sneakyfox wrote: Show nested quote + On March 12 2019 23:32 Poopi wrote: Alert, alert Possible Maru - Serral final detected Auto-destruction from Maru imminent before the finals It's Dark and Serral in the upper half, Maru and Inno in the lower half Innovation is going to take out Maru Unlikely, Rail's gonna knock out Inno | ||
Poopi
France12454 Posts
On March 12 2019 23:33 sneakyfox wrote: Show nested quote + On March 12 2019 23:32 Poopi wrote: Alert, alert Possible Maru - Serral final detected Auto-destruction from Maru imminent before the finals It's Dark and Serral in the upper half, Maru and Inno in the lower half Innovation is going to take out Maru The most likely thing is Neeb taking out Reynor then Maru I think Elazer is okay for Maru INno - Rail is gonna be hard but we should see INno win PtitDrogo should advance as well but I don't see him beat INno | ||
TheOneAboveU
Germany3367 Posts
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sneakyfox
8216 Posts
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thickertom
China608 Posts
MaNa vs Serral Dark vs TooDming SortOf vs DnS Scarlett vs SpeCial Maru vs Elazer Neeb vs Reynor PtitDrogo vs Lambo INnoVation vs Rail | ||
Harris1st
Germany6036 Posts
Now all I need is a timetable to know when I'll be sick at work | ||
Alejandrisha
United States6565 Posts
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sneakyfox
8216 Posts
On March 12 2019 23:43 Harris1st wrote: Nice! Now all I need is a timetable to know when I'll be sick at work They said on TakeTv that the first match starts at 8 am CET | ||
Alejandrisha
United States6565 Posts
On March 12 2019 23:43 Harris1st wrote: Nice! Now all I need is a timetable to know when I'll be sick at work ugh this post takes me back to 2010 levels of content xD | ||
ShAd_1337
Germany1042 Posts
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Xain0n
Italy3963 Posts
On March 12 2019 23:38 sneakyfox wrote: This is actually pretty an amazing bracket for Serral considering he went 2nd place. Out of Maru, Inno, Neeb and Dark he would probably choose Dark. The three others are in the lower half Dark has arguably the best shape out of the koreans while Neeb is on fire; thus said, I am not sure Neeb would beat Maru or Inno(whose TvP has looked very sharp in the last five month, I'd be extremely surprised to see Rail advancing). I still wouldn't bet on a Serral-Maru final happening next Sunday. This bracket would indeed look good for the best Serral and his form seemed getting better game after game, yesterday. | ||
Alejandrisha
United States6565 Posts
On March 12 2019 23:44 ShAd_1337 wrote: this time dark gonna FUCK serral. when the armor chips the cracks begin to show ya? serral is sooo 2018 :p | ||
freeamount
China202 Posts
That is CET 8:00 in the morning. | ||
ShAd_1337
Germany1042 Posts
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Xain0n
Italy3963 Posts
On March 12 2019 23:44 ShAd_1337 wrote: this time dark gonna FUCK serral. Narrowly losing 2-3 to soO into getting pwnd by Dark? Unlikely. I see Serral winning 3-2 this time, it will for sure be a much closer match than it was at BlizzCon. | ||
thickertom
China608 Posts
On March 12 2019 23:48 ShAd_1337 wrote: ro16 played one after one or are there gonna be two matches at the same time? I feel that it's two matches at the same time because the SC2 event of WESG has two channels. | ||
Nakajin
Canada8747 Posts
Scarlett-SpeCial, Serral-Mana and Neeb-Reynor are my personnal highlight. I would like to say Elazer-Maru but while it may be up in the air it's probably gonna be a shit show of a series | ||
Harris1st
Germany6036 Posts
MaNa vs Serral 1:3 Dark vs TooDming 3:1 SortOf vs DnS 2:3 Scarlett vs SpeCial 3:1 Maru vs Elazer 3:0 Neeb vs Reynor 3:0 PtitDrogo vs Lambo 3:1 INnoVation vs Rail 3:1 On March 12 2019 23:44 Alejandrisha wrote: Show nested quote + On March 12 2019 23:43 Harris1st wrote: Nice! Now all I need is a timetable to know when I'll be sick at work ugh this post takes me back to 2010 levels of content xD What? | ||
Wardi
England890 Posts
On March 12 2019 23:48 ShAd_1337 wrote: ro16 played one after one or are there gonna be two matches at the same time? One after another, 6 matches tomorrow and 6 the day after (so not all of ro16 is tomorrow) | ||
MarianoSC2
Slovakia1855 Posts
Its a shame that Serral got such an easy bracket (Dark ZvZ not good enough, Scarlett will choke as usual) and Inno + Maru are on the same side. There is just no way Maru gets past Inno. TBH with his current form he will probably have trouble getting past Neeb :D | ||
deacon.frost
Czech Republic12115 Posts
On March 13 2019 00:17 MarianoSC2 wrote: Well this bracket is pretty obvious. Serral vs Inno finals with easy Inno win. Its a shame that Serral got such an easy bracket (Dark ZvZ not good enough, Scarlett will choke as usual) and Inno + Maru are on the same side. There is just no way Maru gets past Inno. TBH with his current form he will probably have trouble getting past Neeb :D The question is how much Maru gets better. I can see him getting into the finals but at the same time I can see Elazer cheesing him out of the tournament. Dark can win against Serral if he doesn't choke from previous loses. | ||
SamirDuran
Philippines883 Posts
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Harris1st
Germany6036 Posts
On March 13 2019 00:29 SamirDuran wrote: possible Neeb vs Serral Finals That would butthurt so many ppl here... I love it! | ||
Xain0n
Italy3963 Posts
On March 13 2019 00:17 MarianoSC2 wrote: Well this bracket is pretty obvious. Serral vs Inno finals with easy Inno win. Its a shame that Serral got such an easy bracket (Dark ZvZ not good enough, Scarlett will choke as usual) and Inno + Maru are on the same side. There is just no way Maru gets past Inno. TBH with his current form he will probably have trouble getting past Neeb :D Man, the unstoppable Innovation you are depicting crashed 0-4 of IEM groupstages before winning 2-1("Inno easy") against Serral in match worth $200 just ten days ago. Inno has a good shot to the finals and a chanche of winning the event; however, I need to inform you it's not March 2013 as you seem to think judging by your comments. | ||
MarianoSC2
Slovakia1855 Posts
On March 13 2019 00:38 Xain0n wrote: Show nested quote + On March 13 2019 00:17 MarianoSC2 wrote: Well this bracket is pretty obvious. Serral vs Inno finals with easy Inno win. Its a shame that Serral got such an easy bracket (Dark ZvZ not good enough, Scarlett will choke as usual) and Inno + Maru are on the same side. There is just no way Maru gets past Inno. TBH with his current form he will probably have trouble getting past Neeb :D Man, the unstoppable Innovation you are depicting crashed 0-4 of IEM groupstages before winning 2-1("Inno easy") against Serral in match worth $200 just ten days ago. Inno has a good shot to the finals and a chanche of winning the event; however, I need to inform you it's not March 2013 as you seem to think judging by your comments. Obviously I am triggering Serral fanboys a bit with such comments (I can admit he is a top top player), but the fact that Inno dismantled and stomped Serral in super late game is an undeniable fact which no amount of deluded fanboy-ism can change And it was on official offline match on a big tournament, does not really matter what were the circumstances and how much Innovation screwed up previously | ||
Xain0n
Italy3963 Posts
On March 13 2019 01:09 MarianoSC2 wrote: Show nested quote + On March 13 2019 00:38 Xain0n wrote: On March 13 2019 00:17 MarianoSC2 wrote: Well this bracket is pretty obvious. Serral vs Inno finals with easy Inno win. Its a shame that Serral got such an easy bracket (Dark ZvZ not good enough, Scarlett will choke as usual) and Inno + Maru are on the same side. There is just no way Maru gets past Inno. TBH with his current form he will probably have trouble getting past Neeb :D Man, the unstoppable Innovation you are depicting crashed 0-4 out of IEM groupstages before winning 2-1("Inno easy") against Serral in match worth $200 just ten days ago. Inno has a good shot to the finals and a chanche of winning the event; however, I need to inform you it's not March 2013 as you seem to think judging by your comments. Obviously I am triggering Serral fanboys a bit with such comments (I can admit he is a top top player), but the fact that Inno dismantled and stomped Serral in super late game is an undeniable fact which no amount of deluded fanboy-ism can change And it was on official offline match on a big tournament, does not really matter what were the circumstances and how much Innovation screwed up previously Innovation won those games in a pretty decisive way. So what? I am telling you not to be so sure this would happen the next time they meet, the last time they played a meaningful series Serral went back home with a title. I can't tell you for sure Inno wouldn't win ultra late game, of course, it might be that he simply is better than Serral at that phase of the matchup; also, it's not mandatory that every single TvZ has to get past minute 20. I just find the fact you pretend to know better quite disturbing. | ||
TheOneAboveU
Germany3367 Posts
On March 13 2019 00:36 Harris1st wrote: That would butthurt so many ppl here... I love it! You think so? Honestly at this point Serral going out early would probably rustle the most jimmies. | ||
Xain0n
Italy3963 Posts
On March 13 2019 01:55 TheOneAboveU wrote: Show nested quote + On March 13 2019 00:36 Harris1st wrote: On March 13 2019 00:29 SamirDuran wrote: possible Neeb vs Serral Finals That would butthurt so many ppl here... I love it! You think so? Honestly at this point Serral going out early would probably rustle the most jimmies. That would be disappointing but not entirely unexpected after IEM, not to mention he was(is?) ill. A final without koreans in a tournament starring Maru, Inno and Dark would cause many livers to explode, on the other hand. | ||
Silvanel
Poland4597 Posts
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12115 Posts
On March 13 2019 02:10 Xain0n wrote: Show nested quote + On March 13 2019 01:55 TheOneAboveU wrote: On March 13 2019 00:36 Harris1st wrote: On March 13 2019 00:29 SamirDuran wrote: possible Neeb vs Serral Finals That would butthurt so many ppl here... I love it! You think so? Honestly at this point Serral going out early would probably rustle the most jimmies. That would be disappointing but not entirely unexpected after IEM, not to mention he was(is?) ill. A final without koreans in a tournament starring Maru, Inno and Dark would cause many livers to explode, on the other hand. Out of these 3 only Dark is a stellar player. Maru looks in slump and Inno is nowhere near is championship material. While Neeb appears to be in somewhat good form and Serral is slumping, but considering his match against soO he still can play ZvZ. It shouldn't surprise anyone if Neeb advances through and Dark wouldn't beat Serral in ZvZ. So, no? What would be annoying - all the foreign fanboys writing about it everywhere all the time. Similarly to that BO1 victory of Serral etc. So, would the finals without Korean be the reason or all the people trying to piss other people? ... Edit> Unless you go by names, obviously. But that would be silly. If you would go by names and randomly placed into the play off Flash, Rain and Soulkey, everyone would be thinking that the finals have to be Rain v Flash. While they're godlike in BW and they were really fucking amazing in SC2(well, Flash slightly less, shots fired ), nowadays they have just their names in SC2 and their legacy. Nothing more, I believe all of them would lost. No offense to these players. Also if SK sucks in BW, find me another SC/BW example, please | ||
Xain0n
Italy3963 Posts
On March 13 2019 03:32 deacon.frost wrote: Show nested quote + On March 13 2019 02:10 Xain0n wrote: On March 13 2019 01:55 TheOneAboveU wrote: On March 13 2019 00:36 Harris1st wrote: On March 13 2019 00:29 SamirDuran wrote: possible Neeb vs Serral Finals That would butthurt so many ppl here... I love it! You think so? Honestly at this point Serral going out early would probably rustle the most jimmies. That would be disappointing but not entirely unexpected after IEM, not to mention he was(is?) ill. A final without koreans in a tournament starring Maru, Inno and Dark would cause many livers to explode, on the other hand. Out of these 3 only Dark is a stellar player. Maru looks in slump and Inno is nowhere near is championship material. While Neeb appears to be in somewhat good form and Serral is slumping, but considering his match against soO he still can play ZvZ. It shouldn't surprise anyone if Neeb advances through and Dark wouldn't beat Serral in ZvZ. So, no? What would be annoying - all the foreign fanboys writing about it everywhere all the time. Similarly to that BO1 victory of Serral etc. So, would the finals without Korean be the reason or all the people trying to piss other people? ... Edit> Unless you go by names, obviously. But that would be silly. If you would go by names and randomly placed into the play off Flash, Rain and Soulkey, everyone would be thinking that the finals have to be Rain v Flash. While they're godlike in BW and they were really fucking amazing in SC2(well, Flash slightly less, shots fired ), nowadays they have just their names in SC2 and their legacy. Nothing more, I believe all of them would lost. No offense to these players. Also if SK sucks in BW, find me another SC/BW example, please I have to admit the first part of your post is absolute gold. I agree that one has to properly take into consideration reasonably recent results, fame isn't really relevant when it comes to actual play. To answer your question, the idea foreigners suck strongly lingers in the minds of many lurking or posting here on Team Liquid. Despite being such a nasty belief, it had its reasons to exist back in HoTS; that's not the case anymore, even if obviously koreans are still stronger players on average. The mere fact Serral and Neeb(the ones who most likely could play a non korean final) were not born in Korea would generate whole plains of salt, regardless of their objectively very high level of play, if both of them would reach WESG's finals; I don't see it happening, in any of case. | ||
Nakajin
Canada8747 Posts
On March 13 2019 03:32 deacon.frost wrote: Show nested quote + On March 13 2019 02:10 Xain0n wrote: On March 13 2019 01:55 TheOneAboveU wrote: On March 13 2019 00:36 Harris1st wrote: On March 13 2019 00:29 SamirDuran wrote: possible Neeb vs Serral Finals That would butthurt so many ppl here... I love it! You think so? Honestly at this point Serral going out early would probably rustle the most jimmies. That would be disappointing but not entirely unexpected after IEM, not to mention he was(is?) ill. A final without koreans in a tournament starring Maru, Inno and Dark would cause many livers to explode, on the other hand. Out of these 3 only Dark is a stellar player. Maru looks in slump and Inno is nowhere near is championship material. While Neeb appears to be in somewhat good form and Serral is slumping, but considering his match against soO he still can play ZvZ. It shouldn't surprise anyone if Neeb advances through and Dark wouldn't beat Serral in ZvZ. So, no? What would be annoying - all the foreign fanboys writing about it everywhere all the time. Similarly to that BO1 victory of Serral etc. So, would the finals without Korean be the reason or all the people trying to piss other people? ... Edit> Unless you go by names, obviously. But that would be silly. If you would go by names and randomly placed into the play off Flash, Rain and Soulkey, everyone would be thinking that the finals have to be Rain v Flash. While they're godlike in BW and they were really fucking amazing in SC2(well, Flash slightly less, shots fired ), nowadays they have just their names in SC2 and their legacy. Nothing more, I believe all of them would lost. No offense to these players. Also if SK sucks in BW, find me another SC/BW example, please Serral is in a slump? Since when? I mean if he is in a slump why is Dark not in a slump? He only went a round further then Serral at IEM with the same score in the group stage and had arguably an easier opponent then Serral, he also lost vs a guy Serral beat multiples times. And in this tournament sure he had a 5-0 and not a 4-1 but he also had an easier group and dropped 2 maps just like Serral. So I don't really get how you can say that Dark is "stellar" and that Serral is "slumping" when they have had pretty much the same results. He did have his GSL matches but I don't feel like going 4-1 vs Trust and Dear is enough to say that he had results significantly different from Serral. | ||
MarianoSC2
Slovakia1855 Posts
On March 13 2019 04:40 Nakajin wrote: Show nested quote + On March 13 2019 03:32 deacon.frost wrote: On March 13 2019 02:10 Xain0n wrote: On March 13 2019 01:55 TheOneAboveU wrote: On March 13 2019 00:36 Harris1st wrote: On March 13 2019 00:29 SamirDuran wrote: possible Neeb vs Serral Finals That would butthurt so many ppl here... I love it! You think so? Honestly at this point Serral going out early would probably rustle the most jimmies. That would be disappointing but not entirely unexpected after IEM, not to mention he was(is?) ill. A final without koreans in a tournament starring Maru, Inno and Dark would cause many livers to explode, on the other hand. Out of these 3 only Dark is a stellar player. Maru looks in slump and Inno is nowhere near is championship material. While Neeb appears to be in somewhat good form and Serral is slumping, but considering his match against soO he still can play ZvZ. It shouldn't surprise anyone if Neeb advances through and Dark wouldn't beat Serral in ZvZ. So, no? What would be annoying - all the foreign fanboys writing about it everywhere all the time. Similarly to that BO1 victory of Serral etc. So, would the finals without Korean be the reason or all the people trying to piss other people? ... Edit> Unless you go by names, obviously. But that would be silly. If you would go by names and randomly placed into the play off Flash, Rain and Soulkey, everyone would be thinking that the finals have to be Rain v Flash. While they're godlike in BW and they were really fucking amazing in SC2(well, Flash slightly less, shots fired ), nowadays they have just their names in SC2 and their legacy. Nothing more, I believe all of them would lost. No offense to these players. Also if SK sucks in BW, find me another SC/BW example, please Serral is in a slump? Since when? I mean if he is in a slump why is Dark not in a slump? He only went a round further then Serral at IEM with the same score in the group stage and had arguably an easier opponent then Serral, he also lost vs a guy Serral beat multiples times. And in this tournament sure he had a 5-0 and not a 4-1 but he also had an easier group and dropped 2 maps just like Serral. So I don't really get how you can say that Dark is "stellar" and that Serral is "slumping" when they have had pretty much the same results. He did have his GSL matches but I don't feel like going 4-1 vs Trust and Dear is enough to say that he had results significantly different from Serral. Maybe he meant that Serral and Maru are slumping for their standards (which they set last year when they won almost everything important they could). So while these 2 are "slumping" a bit, Dark keeps his standard of not winning anything but always looking very dangerous? | ||
deacon.frost
Czech Republic12115 Posts
On March 13 2019 04:28 Xain0n wrote: Show nested quote + On March 13 2019 03:32 deacon.frost wrote: On March 13 2019 02:10 Xain0n wrote: On March 13 2019 01:55 TheOneAboveU wrote: On March 13 2019 00:36 Harris1st wrote: On March 13 2019 00:29 SamirDuran wrote: possible Neeb vs Serral Finals That would butthurt so many ppl here... I love it! You think so? Honestly at this point Serral going out early would probably rustle the most jimmies. That would be disappointing but not entirely unexpected after IEM, not to mention he was(is?) ill. A final without koreans in a tournament starring Maru, Inno and Dark would cause many livers to explode, on the other hand. Out of these 3 only Dark is a stellar player. Maru looks in slump and Inno is nowhere near is championship material. While Neeb appears to be in somewhat good form and Serral is slumping, but considering his match against soO he still can play ZvZ. It shouldn't surprise anyone if Neeb advances through and Dark wouldn't beat Serral in ZvZ. So, no? What would be annoying - all the foreign fanboys writing about it everywhere all the time. Similarly to that BO1 victory of Serral etc. So, would the finals without Korean be the reason or all the people trying to piss other people? ... Edit> Unless you go by names, obviously. But that would be silly. If you would go by names and randomly placed into the play off Flash, Rain and Soulkey, everyone would be thinking that the finals have to be Rain v Flash. While they're godlike in BW and they were really fucking amazing in SC2(well, Flash slightly less, shots fired ), nowadays they have just their names in SC2 and their legacy. Nothing more, I believe all of them would lost. No offense to these players. Also if SK sucks in BW, find me another SC/BW example, please I have to admit the first part of your post is absolute gold. I agree that one has to properly take into consideration reasonably recent results, fame isn't really relevant when it comes to actual play. To answer your question, the idea foreigners suck strongly lingers in the minds of many lurking or posting here on Team Liquid. Despite being such a nasty belief, it had its reasons to exist back in HoTS; that's not the case anymore, even if obviously koreans are still stronger players on average. The mere fact Serral and Neeb(the ones who most likely could play a non korean final) were not born in Korea would generate whole plains of salt, regardless of their objectively very high level of play, if both of them would reach WESG's finals; I don't see it happening, in any of case. Nonsense, many TL readers are acknowledging Serral. It's a little bit complicated for Neeb as he's not as stable as Serral but his RO4 road was impressive nontheless. It's just your imagination. On March 13 2019 04:56 MarianoSC2 wrote: Show nested quote + On March 13 2019 04:40 Nakajin wrote: On March 13 2019 03:32 deacon.frost wrote: On March 13 2019 02:10 Xain0n wrote: On March 13 2019 01:55 TheOneAboveU wrote: On March 13 2019 00:36 Harris1st wrote: On March 13 2019 00:29 SamirDuran wrote: possible Neeb vs Serral Finals That would butthurt so many ppl here... I love it! You think so? Honestly at this point Serral going out early would probably rustle the most jimmies. That would be disappointing but not entirely unexpected after IEM, not to mention he was(is?) ill. A final without koreans in a tournament starring Maru, Inno and Dark would cause many livers to explode, on the other hand. Out of these 3 only Dark is a stellar player. Maru looks in slump and Inno is nowhere near is championship material. While Neeb appears to be in somewhat good form and Serral is slumping, but considering his match against soO he still can play ZvZ. It shouldn't surprise anyone if Neeb advances through and Dark wouldn't beat Serral in ZvZ. So, no? What would be annoying - all the foreign fanboys writing about it everywhere all the time. Similarly to that BO1 victory of Serral etc. So, would the finals without Korean be the reason or all the people trying to piss other people? ... Edit> Unless you go by names, obviously. But that would be silly. If you would go by names and randomly placed into the play off Flash, Rain and Soulkey, everyone would be thinking that the finals have to be Rain v Flash. While they're godlike in BW and they were really fucking amazing in SC2(well, Flash slightly less, shots fired ), nowadays they have just their names in SC2 and their legacy. Nothing more, I believe all of them would lost. No offense to these players. Also if SK sucks in BW, find me another SC/BW example, please Serral is in a slump? Since when? I mean if he is in a slump why is Dark not in a slump? He only went a round further then Serral at IEM with the same score in the group stage and had arguably an easier opponent then Serral, he also lost vs a guy Serral beat multiples times. And in this tournament sure he had a 5-0 and not a 4-1 but he also had an easier group and dropped 2 maps just like Serral. So I don't really get how you can say that Dark is "stellar" and that Serral is "slumping" when they have had pretty much the same results. He did have his GSL matches but I don't feel like going 4-1 vs Trust and Dear is enough to say that he had results significantly different from Serral. Maybe he meant that Serral and Maru are slumping for their standards (which they set last year when they won almost everything important they could). So while these 2 are "slumping" a bit, Dark keeps his standard of not winning anything but always looking very dangerous? Yes, exactly what I meant. | ||
Harris1st
Germany6036 Posts
On March 13 2019 01:09 MarianoSC2 wrote: Show nested quote + On March 13 2019 00:38 Xain0n wrote: On March 13 2019 00:17 MarianoSC2 wrote: Well this bracket is pretty obvious. Serral vs Inno finals with easy Inno win. Its a shame that Serral got such an easy bracket (Dark ZvZ not good enough, Scarlett will choke as usual) and Inno + Maru are on the same side. There is just no way Maru gets past Inno. TBH with his current form he will probably have trouble getting past Neeb :D Man, the unstoppable Innovation you are depicting crashed 0-4 of IEM groupstages before winning 2-1("Inno easy") against Serral in match worth $200 just ten days ago. Inno has a good shot to the finals and a chanche of winning the event; however, I need to inform you it's not March 2013 as you seem to think judging by your comments. Obviously I am triggering Serral fanboys a bit with such comments (I can admit he is a top top player), but the fact that Inno dismantled and stomped Serral in super late game is an undeniable fact which no amount of deluded fanboy-ism can change And it was on official offline match on a big tournament, does not really matter what were the circumstances and how much Innovation screwed up previously That game was the definition of a nail biter and could have gone either way for a very long time. You really need to google words like "dismantled" and "stomped" | ||
SamuelGreen
Sweden292 Posts
On March 13 2019 17:00 Harris1st wrote: Show nested quote + On March 13 2019 01:09 MarianoSC2 wrote: On March 13 2019 00:38 Xain0n wrote: On March 13 2019 00:17 MarianoSC2 wrote: Well this bracket is pretty obvious. Serral vs Inno finals with easy Inno win. Its a shame that Serral got such an easy bracket (Dark ZvZ not good enough, Scarlett will choke as usual) and Inno + Maru are on the same side. There is just no way Maru gets past Inno. TBH with his current form he will probably have trouble getting past Neeb :D Man, the unstoppable Innovation you are depicting crashed 0-4 of IEM groupstages before winning 2-1("Inno easy") against Serral in match worth $200 just ten days ago. Inno has a good shot to the finals and a chanche of winning the event; however, I need to inform you it's not March 2013 as you seem to think judging by your comments. Obviously I am triggering Serral fanboys a bit with such comments (I can admit he is a top top player), but the fact that Inno dismantled and stomped Serral in super late game is an undeniable fact which no amount of deluded fanboy-ism can change And it was on official offline match on a big tournament, does not really matter what were the circumstances and how much Innovation screwed up previously That game was the definition of a nail biter and could have gone either way for a very long time. You really need to google words like "dismantled" and "stomped" MarianoSC2 basically admitted in his comment that he uses these words to trigger a subset of sc2-fans, so don't take him seriously (as he doesn't do so himself)! | ||
Alejandrisha
United States6565 Posts
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