On March 13 2019 22:01 MarianoSC2 wrote: Reynor is going to get roflstomped by Maru... Hoping for Neeb to turn it around so we at least have a series in the next round
Reynor came pretty close to beating Maru in Code S last year and he's looking strong now. Maru will win but I expect Reynor to put up a good fight
In the group, the last year Maru looked weak in all RO16/32 groups. Well, weaker than in play offs.
The this year Maru looks weak in 50% of his games, no matter when and where though
He hasn't been seen in playoffs this year. Last year he almost lost to guys like Zanster in GSL groups but put in the effort to smash guys like Dark/Stats/TY/Classic/Rogue etc when it reached playoffs
Lol he didn't exactly "smash" TY, did he? And that goes for a couple of others too. And as pointed out above it's only relevant for three Code S tournaments + WESG, he wasn't great in playoffs in any other tournament
"smashed" was a sweeping statement given he didn't lose to any player in the playoffs. Some matches were obviously closer than others but when you go 33-13 in maps and 9-0 in series during GSL playoffs (against sOs, Zest, Stats, Classic, Gumiho, TY, Dark, and Rogue) it's safe to say he fucking smashed it.
Compared to groups where he almost lost to Zanster, Reynor, Keen etc at least
Edit: as far as tournaments go he didn't really seem to try outside of Code S, Wesg, Katowice, and blizzcon. And he was good in playoffs of all of those except blizzcon. And even then it seemed like less his skill that he lost and more his strategic choices going in.
That doesn't change the fact that he was not amazing in any other tournament, except WESG. And the whole "Maru only loses when he doesn't take it seriously" is frankly just ridiculous.
I didn't say he only loses when he doesn't take it seriously, but in the case of the smaller events like super tournaments it's clear he really didn't. He said himself he didn't practice for them and took the time as a break from Code S.
Yeah, well, I think there are lots of little 'buts' here and there that supposedly explain how Maru losing is not a sign of Maru any limits to him as a player but something else. Just like you just said Maru's loses were not about lack of skill but rather bad strategy. How in the world is strategy not a skill in a game like starcraft? We all know that this has been one of Maru's limitations as a player (although he seemed to improve a lot on this in 2018).
On March 13 2019 22:01 MarianoSC2 wrote: Reynor is going to get roflstomped by Maru... Hoping for Neeb to turn it around so we at least have a series in the next round
Reynor came pretty close to beating Maru in Code S last year and he's looking strong now. Maru will win but I expect Reynor to put up a good fight
In the group, the last year Maru looked weak in all RO16/32 groups. Well, weaker than in play offs.
The this year Maru looks weak in 50% of his games, no matter when and where though
He hasn't been seen in playoffs this year. Last year he almost lost to guys like Zanster in GSL groups but put in the effort to smash guys like Dark/Stats/TY/Classic/Rogue etc when it reached playoffs
Lol he didn't exactly "smash" TY, did he? And that goes for a couple of others too. And as pointed out above it's only relevant for three Code S tournaments + WESG, he wasn't great in playoffs in any other tournament
"smashed" was a sweeping statement given he didn't lose to any player in the playoffs. Some matches were obviously closer than others but when you go 33-13 in maps and 9-0 in series during GSL playoffs (against sOs, Zest, Stats, Classic, Gumiho, TY, Dark, and Rogue) it's safe to say he fucking smashed it.
Compared to groups where he almost lost to Zanster, Reynor, Keen etc at least
Edit: as far as tournaments go he didn't really seem to try outside of Code S, Wesg, Katowice, and blizzcon. And he was good in playoffs of all of those except blizzcon. And even then it seemed like less his skill that he lost and more his strategic choices going in.
That wasn't what you wrote in the other post, but fair enough. And yes Maru was much better in Code S playoffs than group stages.
That doesn't change the fact that he was not amazing in any other tournament, except WESG. And the whole "Maru only loses when he doesn't take it seriously" is frankly just ridiculous.
I recall Maru playing pretty well in last year's IEM though. Actually: semi finals Katowice, RO8 in both super tournaments and semi finals in GSL vs the world. That is still pretty damned impressive and pretty consistent. There are basically 4 tournament play off losses for maru in an entire year. He lost twice to sOs, once to stats and once to Rogue.
On March 13 2019 22:01 MarianoSC2 wrote: Reynor is going to get roflstomped by Maru... Hoping for Neeb to turn it around so we at least have a series in the next round
Reynor came pretty close to beating Maru in Code S last year and he's looking strong now. Maru will win but I expect Reynor to put up a good fight
In the group, the last year Maru looked weak in all RO16/32 groups. Well, weaker than in play offs.
The this year Maru looks weak in 50% of his games, no matter when and where though
He hasn't been seen in playoffs this year. Last year he almost lost to guys like Zanster in GSL groups but put in the effort to smash guys like Dark/Stats/TY/Classic/Rogue etc when it reached playoffs
Lol he didn't exactly "smash" TY, did he? And that goes for a couple of others too. And as pointed out above it's only relevant for three Code S tournaments + WESG, he wasn't great in playoffs in any other tournament
"smashed" was a sweeping statement given he didn't lose to any player in the playoffs. Some matches were obviously closer than others but when you go 33-13 in maps and 9-0 in series during GSL playoffs (against sOs, Zest, Stats, Classic, Gumiho, TY, Dark, and Rogue) it's safe to say he fucking smashed it.
Compared to groups where he almost lost to Zanster, Reynor, Keen etc at least
Edit: as far as tournaments go he didn't really seem to try outside of Code S, Wesg, Katowice, and blizzcon. And he was good in playoffs of all of those except blizzcon. And even then it seemed like less his skill that he lost and more his strategic choices going in.
That doesn't change the fact that he was not amazing in any other tournament, except WESG. And the whole "Maru only loses when he doesn't take it seriously" is frankly just ridiculous.
I didn't say he only loses when he doesn't take it seriously, but in the case of the smaller events like super tournaments it's clear he really didn't. He said himself he didn't practice for them and took the time as a break from Code S.
Yeah, well, I think there are lots of little 'buts' here and there that supposedly explain how Maru losing is not a sign of Maru any limits to him as a player but something else. Just like you just said Maru's loses were not about lack of skill but rather bad strategy. How in the world is strategy not a skill in a game like starcraft? We all know that this has been one of Maru's limitations as a player (although he seemed to improve a lot on this in 2018).
It was the way get chose to open with proxy rax every game that cost him at blizzcon. Which he have probably been decided before the games themselves started.
It's not like Maru's general strategic skills and build-making were that bad last year at all, he just chose to do openings that were completely unnecessary against sOs. But that seems like something that had nothing to do with skill/form/practice and more not understanding how he really rates against his teammate.
On March 13 2019 22:01 MarianoSC2 wrote: Reynor is going to get roflstomped by Maru... Hoping for Neeb to turn it around so we at least have a series in the next round
Reynor came pretty close to beating Maru in Code S last year and he's looking strong now. Maru will win but I expect Reynor to put up a good fight
In the group, the last year Maru looked weak in all RO16/32 groups. Well, weaker than in play offs.
The this year Maru looks weak in 50% of his games, no matter when and where though
He hasn't been seen in playoffs this year. Last year he almost lost to guys like Zanster in GSL groups but put in the effort to smash guys like Dark/Stats/TY/Classic/Rogue etc when it reached playoffs
Lol he didn't exactly "smash" TY, did he? And that goes for a couple of others too. And as pointed out above it's only relevant for three Code S tournaments + WESG, he wasn't great in playoffs in any other tournament
"smashed" was a sweeping statement given he didn't lose to any player in the playoffs. Some matches were obviously closer than others but when you go 33-13 in maps and 9-0 in series during GSL playoffs (against sOs, Zest, Stats, Classic, Gumiho, TY, Dark, and Rogue) it's safe to say he fucking smashed it.
Compared to groups where he almost lost to Zanster, Reynor, Keen etc at least
Edit: as far as tournaments go he didn't really seem to try outside of Code S, Wesg, Katowice, and blizzcon. And he was good in playoffs of all of those except blizzcon. And even then it seemed like less his skill that he lost and more his strategic choices going in.
That wasn't what you wrote in the other post, but fair enough. And yes Maru was much better in Code S playoffs than group stages.
That doesn't change the fact that he was not amazing in any other tournament, except WESG. And the whole "Maru only loses when he doesn't take it seriously" is frankly just ridiculous.
I recall Maru playing pretty well in last year's IEM though. Actually: semi finals Katowice, RO8 in both super tournaments and semi finals in GSL vs the world. That is still pretty damned impressive and pretty consistent. There are basically 4 tournament play off losses for maru in an entire year. He lost twice to sOs, once to stats and once to Rogue.
Yeah, losing to the teammates you practice with and who know you the best on the planet, who would have thought And Stats who's just that good.
On March 13 2019 22:58 Harris1st wrote: The amount of excuses made up for Maru's loses is now officially higher than Mount Everest
Do you think its even higher then the amount of bullcrap with which serral fans try to justify serral loses?
Yes, much much higher. I have never once seen anyone claim that "Serral doesn't try in xxx games"
Serral loses to soO at IEM- "Serral didn't look his best but that was really well played by soO"
Maru loses at IEM- "Maru doesn't take weekend tournaments seriously"
Serral loses to Inno - "he wasn't trying" Serral loses to Neeb online before Blizzcon "he wasn't trying" Serral loses to Neeb in the groupstage "it's because he was sick"
On March 13 2019 22:58 Harris1st wrote: The amount of excuses made up for Maru's loses is now officially higher than Mount Everest
Do you think its even higher then the amount of bullcrap with which serral fans try to justify serral loses?
Yes, much much higher. I have never once seen anyone claim that "Serral doesn't try in xxx games"
People were literally saying that when he lost to INno at IEM the other week.
And it's not just Maru's fans saying it either. It started because Maru himself said he didn't practice for the smaller events and took them as a break.