2017 Running & Cycling Thread - Page 2
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Bonham
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NonY
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edit: I've got the European stream going, high quality and stable. Here we go. Bekele fell at the start. Dropped out a little over halfway. Starting pace was pretty crazy, like they were going much faster than WR pace and faster than the splits of the current WR performance. | ||
Bonham
Canada655 Posts
A word on the pacing: Dubai is famous for having absolutely no appearance fees, so the elites usually engage in a last-man-standing strategy where they go hell for leather over the first 30k and then desperately try to hang on. I'm going to chalk my man Kenny B's DNF up to warm weather and his desire to keep his powder dry for London in a few months. Still expecting great things! | ||
NonY
8716 Posts
London should be exciting. Hopefully a nice clean attempt. | ||
NonY
8716 Posts
edit: I figured it out now. It offers that option when it detects that your activity is for a race that is on strava's list of races. But if it's not on that list, no special treatment, even if you yourself mark it as a race. So I'm using that option when I can, otherwise I'm putting official time and pace in the activity's description. | ||
JumboJohnson
537 Posts
Edit: some of the dying feeling is probably the terrible air quality in the winter where I live. | ||
Bonham
Canada655 Posts
On January 21 2017 11:16 JumboJohnson wrote: I'm up to being able to run for two miles, going to slowly increase the milage so I don't hurt myself. I feel like I'm dying through most of it but I feel great after. The dying feeling goes away right? Absolutely! That or you fall in love with it; I've never been able to tell the difference. On January 21 2017 11:16 JumboJohnson wrote: some of the dying feeling is probably the terrible air quality in the winter where I live. I went to Vietnam for the first time this fall and I only ran twice the two weeks I was there. The traffic made it nearly impossible, but when I was in some quieter spots I soon encountered that lovely "I just inhaled an ash tray" feel you get from running in bad air. It made me really thankful that I live in Canada, where clean air (for the most part) can be taken for granted. Makes up for all the snow and ice, at least a little bit. Where do you live? I hope the air isn't bad all the time, wherever it is. | ||
NonY
8716 Posts
On January 21 2017 11:16 JumboJohnson wrote: I'm up to being able to run for two miles, going to slowly increase the milage so I don't hurt myself. I feel like I'm dying through most of it but I feel great after. The dying feeling goes away right? Yeah, every time I start running again after getting out of shape, I don't enjoy it for weeks. The first bit is hard as your muscles get used to running and your aerobic system gets used to the stress. Also if you're inflexible then that's no fun either. It takes me a while to get the mobility required for a comfortable stride. | ||
LuckyFool
United States9015 Posts
The latest model of the sequences felt a bit bulky for my liking, I liked the 2015 model but the 2016 felt like too much stability for me, to a point where it was cumbersome. I'm ready to retire them after like 400 miles. One of my friends swears by the new Saucony's ISO's, but I'm really open to anything. The Adizeo Adios seem to be working well for my speed stuff, so I'll probably stick with those for speed and racing. But need a new pair more specifically for me slower/long runs and recovery. | ||
L_Master
United States7946 Posts
On January 20 2017 03:47 Bonham wrote: My man Kenny B is running the Dubai marathon tomorrow. His coach says he's injury free and ready to make a serious attempt at the world record. If the weather cooperates, expect great things! This sounds....familiar. Too bad it didn't pan out. Fingers crossed his calf injury is not the chronic one and just a short acute one and he will be ready to roll. Bekele is probably my favorite runner. In part because we stride a little similar and he is built like me, and in part because he is just a general badass. I mean come on, this is someone running THREE freaking miles and moving like this: youtu.be | ||
L_Master
United States7946 Posts
On January 22 2017 08:42 NonY wrote: Yeah, every time I start running again after getting out of shape, I don't enjoy it for weeks. The first bit is hard as your muscles get used to running and your aerobic system gets used to the stress. Also if you're inflexible then that's no fun either. It takes me a while to get the mobility required for a comfortable stride. Yea, I know what you mean. I don't feel like my stride is uncomfortable, it just feels clunky/jerky, heavy on the feet, and generally slow. None of which are pleasant sensations. @Jumbo - If you are having a dying feeling that's probably in large part just running too quick for current fitness. Even tempo (i.e. marathon pace can feel bad if you're out of shape), and if you're running faster than that it can be even worse | ||
L_Master
United States7946 Posts
But it was a good ride today and I was able to finish among the strongest of the 2nd group on the road behind a really strong cat 1 and two pros that got away on the climb. For still being heavier (but back under 70kg at least) that's not too bad. So far my training has been as good as you can ask for, and all the weakness I've made noticeable improvements on. I'm able to make a lot more FRC (anaerobic capacity) type moves without depleting the tank, and my sprint is vastly better than last year, maybe as much as 15%. Combine that with my fitness already being potentially as good as it was a month later last year, I'm really liking what I see in the tea leaves so far. | ||
Raidern
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JumboJohnson
537 Posts
On January 22 2017 07:53 Bonham wrote: Absolutely! That or you fall in love with it; I've never been able to tell the difference. I went to Vietnam for the first time this fall and I only ran twice the two weeks I was there. The traffic made it nearly impossible, but when I was in some quieter spots I soon encountered that lovely "I just inhaled an ash tray" feel you get from running in bad air. It made me really thankful that I live in Canada, where clean air (for the most part) can be taken for granted. Makes up for all the snow and ice, at least a little bit. Where do you live? I hope the air isn't bad all the time, wherever it is. I live in the Cache Valley in Utah so we get winter inversion. Its only been bad a few days fortunately. I went snowshoeing with some friends in fresh snow yesterday and all of my running has helped immensely. I was kicking their butts! | ||
Bonham
Canada655 Posts
On January 22 2017 15:25 L_Master wrote: This sounds....familiar. Too bad it didn't pan out. Fingers crossed his calf injury is not the chronic one and just a short acute one and he will be ready to roll. Bekele is probably my favorite runner. In part because we stride a little similar and he is built like me, and in part because he is just a general badass. I mean come on, this is someone running THREE freaking miles and moving like this: youtu.be I like KB because he's a total badass. I'd be shocked if his 10k and 5k WRs are clean, but the list of people who hold dubious WRs is long. If by "great" we mean fast, KB is undeniably the GOAT. On January 22 2017 15:32 L_Master wrote: As for me, finally got the elusive 100 mile ride in for the first time, and it was a good one, rolling around with the Oval group ride for most of it, which is basically a group of 40-60 of the best riders from the Fort Collins/Boulder area. Getting better at riding in groups, but still have a little work to do for sure. It's improving, but I have a tendency to not quite know how to move around in the group and find myself getting out of the draft or maneuvered into bad spots. Sweet moves! Glad to hear the training is going well. When you ride in big group, do you ever great freaked out? I ride basically just to commute. When I imagine being part of a big peloton, I worry about feeling helpless stuck in the middle of the pack. What if the riders at the front make a bad choice and get us all hit by a truck? What if someone right in front of me falls when we're going down a hill and we all fall at 60 kph? As a more experienced, competitive rider, do you worry about these things? How do you deal with the risk? | ||
L_Master
United States7946 Posts
On January 24 2017 00:29 Bonham wrote: I like KB because he's a total badass. I'd be shocked if his 10k and 5k WRs are clean, but the list of people who hold dubious WRs is long. If by "great" we mean fast, KB is undeniably the GOAT. Sweet moves! Glad to hear the training is going well. When you ride in big group, do you ever great freaked out? I ride basically just to commute. When I imagine being part of a big peloton, I worry about feeling helpless stuck in the middle of the pack. What if the riders at the front make a bad choice and get us all hit by a truck? What if someone right in front of me falls when we're going down a hill and we all fall at 60 kph? As a more experienced, competitive rider, do you worry about these things? How do you deal with the risk? I'm on the nervous/cautious of things in general, so for sure I have. It was almost constant when new, now it's just on particularly tense occasions. No way riders at the front could make a bad decision and get you hit by a car, because if they did something dumb and went across the road or turned in front of an oncoming car you don't have to follow. However, the rider in front of you going down is always a potential concern, and the truth is there isn't much you can do about it. It's pretty much either you accept that is a risk that can happen when you ride in a group, especially in a racier situation and make your peace with that...or you decide it's an unacceptable level of risk/potential hassel and don't race. I'd say the general "consoling factor" for me is that 99% of crashes are not serious. You get some road rash which sucks, and maybe you break a collarbone, but injuries beyond that are rare; and truly traumatic ones are exceptionally rare. I think a rider dies in the pro peleton one average 2-3 times a decade. When you consider that there are probably 200-500 crashes in a given year, those are pretty low odds. I definitely think you're at higher risk of dying or being seriously injured getting in your car to drive than you are racing bikes. Nowadays, I still have some nerves at times with cornering especially when people are really railing the corners/descents; but generally just riding in a pack doesn't feel too bad. Most moments are pretty relaxed and don't really seem scary once you're just used to being around others in close proximity on a bike. The nervy moments are like times when roads narrow, when the crosswinds get strong, or when riders are really fighting for position getting a bit physical...and then when sprinting, which is a whole different ballgame. That's almost a contact sport at times...done at 60-80kph under a teeth gritted maximal effort. | ||
SKNielsen1989
174 Posts
2017 oh boy what a year it has already been. I am 27 years old and I don't hesitate to think myself in the best shape of my (adult) life - everything's going good; no injuries only a little bit of inflammation every now and then mostly in the Achilles tendon - a minor inconvenience that keeps me from doing one of my favorite things all day every day, namely running. Enter concussion. I was walking down the street with a friend of mine discussing silly matters as always - when I noticed a man on the other side of the street who was burning something in a trash can - an unusual sight where I live even when it snows as was the case. What's more whatever he was burning smelled really really really peculiar. As I was watching from across the street wondering what was going on I wasn't paying attention to where I was going and walked into a traffic sign pole. Contrary to my friend I didn't really think much of it at the time and just went about my day. Next day, my head really hurt a lot and I felt absolutely utterly exhausted. Long story short I haven't been running for a week and I hope to be able to run again soon!!! Speaking of bike crashes I'm down to share pictures of all my glorious scars if anyone's interested XD | ||
Bonham
Canada655 Posts
In other news: how about that Nesta Carter bust yesterday? Don't forget, kids: Bolt is such a transcendent talent that he can beat fields bursting with doped-up sprinters while running totally clean himself! Amazing, really. What a superman. On January 24 2017 09:30 SKNielsen1989 wrote: Enter concussion. D That sucks man. I hope you bounce back quick. I admire your candor in sharing your story. A few years ago, I had my worst bike accident to date. (Not actually that bad.) I lost my balance while signalling a left turn in traffic and fell. My left elbow and hand were pretty ripped up and still have scars. But the worst part was the embarrassment. I felt like such a chump. No one had pushed me. A driver hadn't made an unexpected move. I'd just hit a small crack in the road with one hand on my handlebars and biffed it at low speed. | ||
SKNielsen1989
174 Posts
It's reasonably simple and straightforward to learn. On January 27 2017 02:40 Bonham wrote: That sucks man. I hope you bounce back quick. I admire your candor in sharing your story. A few years ago, I had my worst bike accident to date. (Not actually that bad.) I lost my balance while signalling a left turn in traffic and fell. My left elbow and hand were pretty ripped up and still have scars. But the worst part was the embarrassment. I felt like such a chump. No one had pushed me. A driver hadn't made an unexpected move. I'd just hit a small crack in the road with one hand on my handlebars and biffed it at low speed. Only takes a moment of distraction for accidents to happen. I'm just grateful my own distraction never hurt anyone else over than myself. Just imagining hurting a fellow human being or a loved one because you let an accident happen is such a depressing thought. As for my concussion, I'm not too worried. It's been 10 days and I feel a lot better; I will attempt a slow easy run soon. We'll see how it goes. | ||
NonY
8716 Posts
The biggest immediate difference is doing longer runs and taking rest days (either completely off or just a shorter jog). It'll be weird for my diet and my morning routine to have my schedule all jagged like that but I think it'll be for the best. I liked eating about the same food every day with about the same workout every day, but now I've got a 13 mile run on Sunday and have Monday off... it's gonna be weird. I think I'll eat about the same breakfast and lunch every day and then have a substantial dinner the night before a bigger workout and just a snack or small meal on every other night. Also I'm going to New Zealand for 2 weeks in March so that'll be its own training challenge. I figure I'll be doing only a few higher quality workouts and cutting out a lot of easier runs in favor of the cross-training I'll be getting from exploring the parks. My legs will be under a lot of unusual stress from so much walking on trails. My goals for April are to weigh low 140's or 145 pounds or so, to have a strong aerobic base, and for my legs to have some familiarity with speedwork and higher intensity work so they'll be ready to do a full training schedule for 3 months before my July race. The math on that July race: Get spotted 2 minutes from losing 15 pounds (1:10:25). Drop 2 more minutes from 6 months of quality training (1:08:25). Drop 30 more seconds from running the race better. Easy 1:07:55 | ||
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