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On July 18 2018 17:08 BlackJack wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2018 03:20 JimmiC wrote:On July 17 2018 23:35 BlackJack wrote:On July 17 2018 15:19 Twinkle Toes wrote:On July 17 2018 00:28 BlackJack wrote: Was bored last night and wasting time on bballreference and here's a stat I found that highlights how the game has changed: The NBA made more 3's last season than in the entire 1980s decade combined. It was on r/nba for the last 2 days I know, lol. I think about half of the posts I make on r/nba make it to their front page because I mostly post about 2 of their favorite things: obscure but interesting statistics and circle jerks for LeBron. Reddit's big issue is it is populism at its best and worst. You can't actually have discussion there because any sort of dissenting view is down voted to hell. I "broke" the flames hiring their coach story on reddit, because my buddy knew. A few hours before it was announced. I got down voted like crazy for those hours, then once it was announced I message a few of the people who insulted me and they still were mad. It's an odd place. Especially when you go to team subreddits you realize how delusional and void of reason most fans are about their hometeam You'll hate me for bringing this up, but true story about crazy fanaticism.
This was in 2014-15 in the early years of Lebron's homecoming. I was semi-regular at r/nba/cavs, and there was a major Lebron thread in r/nba and there was a specific thread with 3-5 people discussing something about a play or so, I dont remember anymore. It was aggressive but respectful, and then suddenly some 5 people I recognize from r/nba/cavs showed up and talking about "my team" and "we would do this or that" and would argue against everyone even though we all seem to be praising Lebron there. It was like they hate that there are other Lebron fans and that they should be the best ones, and that they see Lebron as an immaculate person and player who can do no wrong. I immediately noped my way out of any Lebron discussion from then on and became self conscious if other people see me as the same.
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It sucks for Green too. He is one Pop's truest homeboys. I guess that's it, when the most family-culture team breaks up like this, loyalty and all other bullshit is gone. The only thing that could make this worse is if they send Manu away on his last year.
FUCK KAWHI!
DD's chance to win against Lebron in the playoffs!
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well this is one way to lower Derozan's playing time
the 1st round pick is protected all the way to #20. so this is a decent deal for the Raptors. Lowry has been a bit of a headcase in the past. Long time coach is gone and best friend is gone. vit'll be interesting to see if he goes off the rails this year.
Poetl and Siakam were best Fortnite buddies. Lowry and Derozan were best friends. Lots of friendships being ignored in this deal.
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Calling it now, fuck the haters, this will be DD's breakout year! I know he is an all-star already, but with Pop in the Spurs, his star will truly shine!
DD MVP 2019!
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Hopefully, this trade doesn't make Derozan's battles with depression and anxiety more difficult. I wonder if these issues were a factor in Ujiri's decision to trade him?
Toronto teams trade away their heart and soul players like they are commodities on the stock exchange. wendel clark, Roy Halladay, Vernon Wells, vince carter, Damon Stoudamire
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On July 18 2018 22:27 Twinkle Toes wrote: Calling it now, fuck the haters, this will be DD's breakout year! I know he is an all-star already, but with Pop in the Spurs, his star will truly shine!
DD MVP 2019!
Probably not this, but I do think him being in the west will up his profile.
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Pascal Siakam ... Toronto's new play maker! Derozan shouldered a lot of the playmaking responsibilities in TO... it'll be geat to see Siakam get an opportunity to expand his game.
if Leonard is healthy this is a good deal for Toronto. it'll be interesting to see how Popovich deals with Derozan's low physical and mental effort on defense... and his mental meltdowns when close calls don't go his way.
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On July 18 2018 21:52 JimmiC wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2018 21:46 Nemireck wrote: How do the Lakers look with Lowry and Kawhai filling out that starting 5? Like title contenders. You think this is a precursor to a LA Tor trade?
No, not really. Just a thought experiment more than a prediction.
Raptors are ready for a retooling/rebuild, but they need cap space and picks. DD was eating up a ton of cap space on an inefficient contract, and Lowry has one or two more years at a pretty high cap hit as well.
We aren't moving Ibaka to make more cap space, so package Lowry and Kawhai off to LA for picks and a couple young players, maybe Ingram.
Vanvleet and Wright are serviceable PGs, give Valunciunas the million touches per game he's always wanted, and hopefully build his value to trade him at the deadline, if we're lucky we can even dump Powell along with him in a package. All while losing a ton of games to improve our draft position.
A guy can dream, anyway.
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On July 18 2018 22:53 Nemireck wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2018 21:52 JimmiC wrote:On July 18 2018 21:46 Nemireck wrote: How do the Lakers look with Lowry and Kawhai filling out that starting 5? Like title contenders. You think this is a precursor to a LA Tor trade? No, not really. Just a thought experiment more than a prediction. Raptors are ready for a retooling/rebuild, but they need cap space and picks. DD was eating up a ton of cap space on an inefficient contract, and Lowry has one or two more years at a pretty high cap hit as well. We aren't moving Ibaka to make more cap space, so package Lowry and Kawhai off to LA for picks and a couple young players, maybe Ingram. Vanvleet and Wright are serviceable PGs, give Valunciunas the million touches per game he's always wanted, and hopefully build his value to trade him at the deadline, if we're lucky we can even dump Powell along with him in a package. All while losing a ton of games to improve our draft position. A guy can dream, anyway.
I think it is a trade deadline option, but I also think the team as it is built can compete in the east. And PG13 was not going to even consider anywhere but LA until he did. So I guess we will see. If Kawhi is healthy and plays like he did he is a top 5 player in the league easily. And Lowry still has trade value despite his contract and age if we do decide to rebuild. You are 100% right on Ibaka, he is Masia's biggest regret!
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i think the only toronto raptor name the FOX and ESPN guys can pronounce correctly is nick nurse.
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On July 18 2018 22:53 Nemireck wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2018 21:52 JimmiC wrote:On July 18 2018 21:46 Nemireck wrote: How do the Lakers look with Lowry and Kawhai filling out that starting 5? Like title contenders. You think this is a precursor to a LA Tor trade? No, not really. Just a thought experiment more than a prediction. Raptors are ready for a retooling/rebuild, but they need cap space and picks. DD was eating up a ton of cap space on an inefficient contract, and Lowry has one or two more years at a pretty high cap hit as well. We aren't moving Ibaka to make more cap space, so package Lowry and Kawhai off to LA for picks and a couple young players, maybe Ingram. Vanvleet and Wright are serviceable PGs, give Valunciunas the million touches per game he's always wanted, and hopefully build his value to trade him at the deadline, if we're lucky we can even dump Powell along with him in a package. All while losing a ton of games to improve our draft position. A guy can dream, anyway.
cap space to do what tho? i cant think of any great free agents that has signed with the raptors and kawhi wont be changing that trend either.
and the lakers wont want to take lowry, they already have ball and hart, younger and cheaper. i dont even think they have enough to make salaries match either
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We will trade everything for RJ barrett, pick up Wiggins when Twolves listen to reddit and dump his contract. Then Pick up Tristan Thompson when he gets his Kardasian Divorce for the league minimum. Trade for Olynick and re aquire Cory Joesph. All as plan to have a cohesive unit and actually qualify for the Olympics.
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On July 19 2018 00:06 JimmiC wrote: We will trade everything for RJ barrett, pick up Wiggins when Twolves listen to reddit and dump his contract. Then Pick up Tristan Thompson when he gets his Kardasian Divorce for the league minimum. Trade for Olynick and re aquire Cory Joesph. All as plan to have a cohesive unit and actually qualify for the Olympics.
bring anthony bennett back too
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On July 19 2018 00:09 zev318 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2018 00:06 JimmiC wrote: We will trade everything for RJ barrett, pick up Wiggins when Twolves listen to reddit and dump his contract. Then Pick up Tristan Thompson when he gets his Kardasian Divorce for the league minimum. Trade for Olynick and re aquire Cory Joesph. All as plan to have a cohesive unit and actually qualify for the Olympics. bring anthony bennett back too Only if he is available. Those first overall's can be tricky to get!
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I predicted this during the NBA finals... or at least said it was somewhere i'd like if I were San Antonio! Unfortunately the thread is locked and I am not committed enough to find my post lol.
Interesting trade; I think it's about as good as SA was gonna get for Kawhi given the situation
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On July 19 2018 00:02 zev318 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2018 22:53 Nemireck wrote:On July 18 2018 21:52 JimmiC wrote:On July 18 2018 21:46 Nemireck wrote: How do the Lakers look with Lowry and Kawhai filling out that starting 5? Like title contenders. You think this is a precursor to a LA Tor trade? No, not really. Just a thought experiment more than a prediction. Raptors are ready for a retooling/rebuild, but they need cap space and picks. DD was eating up a ton of cap space on an inefficient contract, and Lowry has one or two more years at a pretty high cap hit as well. We aren't moving Ibaka to make more cap space, so package Lowry and Kawhai off to LA for picks and a couple young players, maybe Ingram. Vanvleet and Wright are serviceable PGs, give Valunciunas the million touches per game he's always wanted, and hopefully build his value to trade him at the deadline, if we're lucky we can even dump Powell along with him in a package. All while losing a ton of games to improve our draft position. A guy can dream, anyway. cap space to do what tho? i cant think of any great free agents that has signed with the raptors and kawhi wont be changing that trend either. and the lakers wont want to take lowry, they already have ball and hart, younger and cheaper. i dont even think they have enough to make salaries match either
Cap space to take on expensive, expiring contracts from other teams of old, washed up nobodies (packaged with picks) to help us tank and draft the next LeBron... Duh.
It's the NBA, if you can't buy your superstars, you gotta draft em!
Just have to #TrustTheProcess
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20 minutes of talking about the Leonard//Derozan trade on the all sports radio station and then its back to talking about whether Tavares or Matthews is the #1 center. LOL.
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Derozan Leonard Deal makes ton of sense, Leonard needed to get out of TX and Derozan needed a shakeup w/ his situation too. Like both of these players but they weren't helping their teams go anywhere. WTF @ people saying Demar needs to get a statue outside of TO air canada center. That kind of talk isn't really backed up by much winning. These dudes will do good in each others positions with other management and teammates.
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basically... Toronto is trading 2 years of Derozan at $27+M for 1 year of Leonard.
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On July 19 2018 01:57 JimmyJRaynor wrote:20 minutes of talking about the Leonard//Derozan trade on the all sports radio station and then its back to talking about whether Tavares or Matthews is the #1 center. LOL.
I don't think either of them are tall enough TBH. And I kinda like JV there already...
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