compLexity and Mill come to agreement - Page 14
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hoor3x
United States100 Posts
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States42212 Posts
On September 22 2011 21:58 DertoQq wrote: That's pretty much what the guy from Millenium said if I remember correctly. I thought he just said that Stephano would not be going to Korea... although I could have missed something explaining that Stephano's prospects would be even more exclusive. How about we just quote some stuff? ^^ | ||
BoBiNoU
France181 Posts
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momonami5
United States109 Posts
On September 22 2011 20:14 Kerm wrote: Did Destiny get a fine back when he left coL ? Just saying .... I'm happy this gets to an end though why would you get fined for getting fired? | ||
ShatterZer0
United States1843 Posts
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ShatterZer0
United States1843 Posts
On September 22 2011 22:23 BoBiNoU wrote: Positive thing out of this is that France gets its first SC2 programer with Stephano moman, adel scott, SarenS, and ToD don't count? EDIT: Forgot about AureS.... I mean team millenium is like an all french team right? EDIT 2: Nope, Millen is not an all french team, but if you look it up there're actually quite a few french pro teams! | ||
Darkthur
France18 Posts
Edit: well moman had a real contract with his previous team cybernation, but he was officially working in the cybercafe, and was not playing full time. | ||
Funkydonky
950 Posts
On September 22 2011 22:29 ShatterZer0 wrote: moman, adel scott, SarenS, and ToD don't count? EDIT: Forgot about AureS.... I mean team millenium is like an all french team right? EDIT 2: Nope, Millen is not an all french team, but if you look it up there're actually quite a few french pro teams! I don't know how to explain this very well, but he is the first one who got a worker contract, so some of the money goes to his pension fund, health insurance etc. | ||
Ballack
Norway821 Posts
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TheTurk
United States732 Posts
Hope he does well in the future. | ||
Dandy_Moustachu
France422 Posts
On September 22 2011 21:58 DertoQq wrote: That's pretty much what the guy from Millenium said if I remember correctly. They send they'll not drop the french E-sport scene and send Stephano to these french event, UNLESS there is some EU/world event where Stephano is invited/qualified/interested to go. Talking about EU event, i'd like if someone remember what Llewellys said about dreamhack Valencia : - Stephano wasn't invited ? - Stephano/Mill wasn't interested to go ? They said something about it, but I don't remember | ||
strongandbig
United States4858 Posts
On September 22 2011 21:58 DertoQq wrote: That's pretty much what the guy from Millenium said if I remember correctly. That's exactly what the Millenium SC2 manager said on stream. However, it seems like a lot of things he said on that stream have been pulled back by the organization as a whole. For example, he also said that they were just going to purposefully ignore coL's emails, whereas the current M statement says that it was "time differences" that made them delay talking to coL. He also said the "disorienting" thing. I think what happened is probably that the Millenium sc2 guy was awake when the overall boss(es) of the team were asleep or offline, and he was being blusterey and nationalistic on stream, but that he wasn't actually pronouncing team policy or talking based on any long term plans they actually made. | ||
strongandbig
United States4858 Posts
On September 22 2011 22:35 Darkthur wrote: Stephano is ofc not the first to get paid, but he is the first to actually have a real working contract by french law, with minimun wage, social protection, etc. Edit: well moman had a real contract with his previous team cybernation, but he was officially working in the cybercafe, and was not playing full time. What about ToD when he was playing Warcraft three? Wasn't he like the second best western player? | ||
ploo
France2 Posts
On September 22 2011 23:01 strongandbig wrote: That's exactly what the Millenium SC2 manager said on stream. However, it seems like a lot of things he said on that stream have been pulled back by the organization as a whole. For example, he also said that they were just going to purposefully ignore coL's emails, whereas the current M statement says that it was "time differences" that made them delay talking to coL. He also said the "disorienting" thing. I think what happened is probably that the Millenium sc2 guy was awake when the overall boss(es) of the team were asleep or offline, and he was being blusterey and nationalistic on stream, but that he wasn't actually pronouncing team policy or talking based on any long term plans they actually made. Did you listen the stream or did you read something because this not what he said on his stream .... He never said he won't answer the mails, he had a programed showmatch to stream with players not involved in the "drama" so they deserved to be streamed before, and coL mails could wait. It's also not him who talked about a "disorienting" thing, contrary he said it was a bit too much to say that !! | ||
hYrasD
Germany164 Posts
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DertoQq
France906 Posts
On September 22 2011 22:29 ShatterZer0 wrote: moman, adel scott, SarenS, and ToD don't count? EDIT: Forgot about AureS.... I mean team millenium is like an all french team right? EDIT 2: Nope, Millen is not an all french team, but if you look it up there're actually quite a few french pro teams! I think Millenium said he was the first french SC2 progamer as in he is the only one with a real working contract (with taxes, social security and all that stuff...) | ||
mordek
United States12704 Posts
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cerka
United States39 Posts
I still don't like this resolution, but complexity seemed very determined to prove that their contract was legitimate and that millenium was indebted to coL. I guess it is the best that we could have hoped for. | ||
WightyCity
Canada887 Posts
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Otolia
France5805 Posts
On September 22 2011 23:01 strongandbig wrote: That's exactly what the Millenium SC2 manager said on stream. However, it seems like a lot of things he said on that stream have been pulled back by the organization as a whole. For example, he also said that they were just going to purposefully ignore coL's emails, whereas the current M statement says that it was "time differences" that made them delay talking to coL. He also said the "disorienting" thing. I think what happened is probably that the Millenium sc2 guy was awake when the overall boss(es) of the team were asleep or offline, and he was being blusterey and nationalistic on stream, but that he wasn't actually pronouncing team policy or talking based on any long term plans they actually made. So you speak french right ? If you don't, then you can't possibly know for sure, and based on personal experience, I would say that Americans speaking french are very uncommon even on the internet. They said they had other things to do (aka casting a Showmatch between 2 players who had nothing to do with the story) and they wanted to think about the proper action before answering which is better than most of the TLers have done on the subject. Also I'd like you to show some respect for a team manager that has done more for his team and competitive gaming in France than you ever will in your country. | ||
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