I feel very good. I was too outgoing during the recent holidays but I made into Code A since I didn't face any Protoss players.
Q : Weren't today's games hard?
I definitely lost my gaming sense a lot. They were all very hard in general. The hardest match was against Ui-Jin Hwang who plays Terran. I got lucky in that game.
Q : I can't help myself from talking about the last season. You were very hyped by fans.
My first opponent in the last season was Curious so I am not too disappointed. As a progamer I am meant to win against anyone. But what was disappointing is that I was not able to show plays that I prepared during practices and allowed him to come back. But sometimes I think I was unlucky to face Curious out of other fallen Code S players.
Q : 2012. I bet you want to make something happen.
I have to think about my age and the future since I am older now. I think I have to make some sort of achievements this year. I sorted out my compulsory military service problem so I should be easy on myself but I am the second oldest in the team. I feel mentally pressured.
Q : Who would want to face in the earliest rounds?
I don't want to play against 4th ranked Code S players in their groups. I wouldn't know who to practise against and won't have enough to time to practise. I wish I could find out who the opponent is so I can concentrate on preparation.
Q : There are still bit of time until Code A matches.
I could make a use of as much as time as possible. I lost gaming senses as I didn't practise much recently.
Q : oGsFin made into Code S in a single season.
Well, so I moved my computer next to Fin. I thought 'he can play this much so he deserves to be promoted'. I learn a lot from him.
Q : What's your new years resolution?
I want to get into Code S in the first half of this year. And in the later half I want to be in the semi-finals. Hold on.. Nope, I want to get into the finals (laughs)
Q : Anything else you want to add?
I thank our sponsor Corsair. Our team seems to have an image of being weak compared to who we are. I hope that all our team members read this interview and work together to recover our image.
It has been a year so I feel good. It's very refreshing.
Q : What's the reason of your downturn?
I rather get nervous a lot so I often couldn't play like I usually play so fell down several times.
Q : Did you have any tough games today?
I thought I would lose to Check. But he got knocked out before facing me so I rather had a easy run.
Q : How did you prepare for Code A qualifiers.
Protoss rushes are very strong so my main focus during practices to defending them off. But they were too hard to stop so I prepared all-in strategies. They all worked well so I got into Code A.
Q : The format of Code A has been changed.
Winning one game will get me into Up/Down matches so I better bet my life and compete.
Q : What is your goal for this season?
Not coming to Techno Mart in Sindorim (T/N : The venue for Code A Qualifiers). I really hate this qualifiers. I get more nervous here than televised matches.
Q : Anything else you want to add in?
I thank to all the team mates and players who helped with practices. I wasn't able to show my parents anything but they were very patient and still supported me. I also thank our sponsors TtSPORTS.
I thought I would come back straight away but took me a year. Now I will try very hard so I don't fall down to Qualifiers again.
Q : What was the hardest game for you today?
The final games were the hardest. I started with losing the first set and even the last set was very unstable. But my betting worked luckily to get me a win.
Q : You didn't play any televised matches for a while, how have you been?
After I left Zenex I didn't practise enough. In the last qualifiers I lost to Rainbow which stimulated me to be motivated for this season
Q : When did you join Prime?
Two weeks before the qualifiers. Byun recommended me to the team so I was able to get in. After I joined Prime I set myself up straight mentally.
Q : What is your goal for this season after the long absent period.
Surviving in the Code A is the first goal. I really don't want to go through qualifiers ever again. The second goal is to get into Code S straight away.
Q : Did you make any new years resolution?
Winning Code S finals would be the goal.
Q : Anything else that you want to add?
First of all, I thank Prime team mates very much. I also thank our sponsors TtESPORTS. I know Byun and Coca very well and they still try very hard and still regret what they did. I hope they cheer up soon. I also thank my parents.
Code A is the stage that I really wanted to be on. I am happy that I finally achieved my dream after one year.
Q : You are the first team member to make into Code A from ZeNEX. How do you feel?
I hope I am the beginning and I wish all our team members come up too.
Q : How were today's qualifiers?
The semifinals against yCh[z-zOne] was really hard. I went for a macro game with a strong economic advantage but kept being rushed. I somehow held them off and won.
Q : Now you need to prepare for upcoming televised matches.
I won't be too nervous. I got used to how tournaments are through qualifiers so I don't think I would have a problem.
Q : What is your goal for this season?
Getting into Up/Down matches is the first goal. I don't ever want to go down to qualifiers again.
Q : Anything else that you want to add in?
I thank my dad, team members and the coach for supporting me. I also want to add that Nam-Jung bro doesn't have a brain (laughs)
Q : This is the first time you made into the main stage.
I have been trying to get through the qualifiers since the Open Season 2 and I made in finally after a year. I feel really good since I have been trying for a long time.
Q : Any particular games that you found hard?
The finals against Dream was the hardest. I had a problem with my mouse in the first set and even requested to pause. I lost that first set to start with so I finished the finals with difficulties.
Q : You haven't been televised for a rather long time.
I only practised at the team house. I just spent all my time playing.
Q : What was your motivation to break through the qualifiers?
I was always confident but failed every time. But this time everything got worked out as I wanted them to.
Q : What is your goal for this season?
Getting into Code S directly. I know I haven't got much of experiences in televised series but I think I will get better as I get more experience.
Q : Anything that you want to add in?
I thank the coach and his wife for trusting me for a long time. It was recently my Mum's birthday and I think my successful results from today could be the good present for her.
Players who made into Code A from 4PM groups are the followings :
Q : You made into the GSL after a year. How do you feel?
I am happy, very happy.
Q : I bet you had hard times over a year. How are you?
I am rather old among other progamers so I had bit of rough time. I had many thoughts. I thought this was not going to work even if I kept on trying.
Q : Then you must have practised harder for this qualifiers.
I practised frequently as I always did. To be honest, I think I made it through as I got lucky.
Q : If you were lucky today, which match was the luckiest for you?
I had my final games with Sleep who I personally think is a great player. But he must have been nervous and didn't play how he usually plays.
Q : You had a previous experience on GSTL.
I learnt how not to be nervous very much. I used to get too nervous but during GSTL televised matches weren't so frightening as I played. But I still do get nervous whether games are televised or not.
Q : I wonder what results you want to get in 2012.
To be the best player. I want to win. But I wouldn't know whether I will get into Code S until matches begin.
Q : Prime players performed really well today especially Zerg players.
Not particularly. But all players did not make into Code A for a long time and I bet they were more determined.
Q : Anything else that you want to add?
I thank the coach and team mates who came to the qualifiers today. I also thank our sponsor Tt-eSPORTS. Also please shop often on PrimeZZANG (T/N : A very decent online clothing in my opinion. They actually have really good clothes that aren't nerdy)
Q : This is the first time you getting into GSL. How do you feel?
I haven't tried out qualifiers for Open Seasons but I kept trying qualifiers since January last year. I finally made in for the first time and now I am still a bit shaken.
Q : Which match was the hardest?
Games against oGsTOP were the hardest. The first set went into a late game for about an hour and I lost. I was mentally disturbed after losing a long match. But I decided to forget about the first set before beginning remaining sets and it worked. I knew play styles of my final opponent so it was rather easier.
Q : What were the driving forces that helped you to be qualified this time?
I was stimulated a lot when Jjakji won GSL. I am not sure whether it made me confident but it surely did wake me up.
Q : Were other players stimulated by Jjakji's success?
I think so, everyone in general would've felt the same way.
Q : The results from Terran players today weren't that great. What's your personal opinion?
Maps are generally hard for Terran. They are particularly harder against Protoss players. I think that might be one of the reasons.
Q : You have been into GSTL previously.
I couldn't make up my mind to be determined after GSTL. I don't know the reasons but I just couldn't concentrate during the games. Even in this qualifiers, I had bad concentrations and didn't really have a good mind set.
Q : So this is the first GSL for you. How do you think it will go?
All players who are currently qualified in GSL are amazing. I have to catch up to them. In order to do so I have no other ways but to practise harder.
Q : What is the first goal of your first GSL?
I want to get into Code S no matter what. That is the goal. I don't even have any other goals.
Q : I think you may have gotten used to televised matches.
I personally think that I did too. After I have failed to be qualified in WCG I have a stronger desire to be televised. I somehow think I can do well in this season.
Q : Anything else that you want to add?
I thank my parents and my brother who supported me even when I had bad results until now.
Q : How do you feel getting into GSL after a long time?
Just feels great (laughs).
Q : You came back after five seasons.
I didn't know it had been that long. It maybe because I quitted a game momentarily. When I left MVP I didn't play the game and just rested awhile then started to play again.
Q : What made you start playing again?
I figured that this is the only thing that I am good at. I am telling you the truth (laughs). So I just wanted to play again.
Q : Preparing for the qualifiers without being in a team must have been hard.
Many bros (T/N : Hyung, 형) in ProS helped me out. Preparing wasn't as hard as I thought.
Q : Do you want to go back into a team again?
I am still thinking about it. Going back to MVP would be nice but I don't have a definite plan.
Q : Who knocked you out in Code A in May?
I lost to IMMVP. I was just so nervous back then and couldn't even play fully. It was really disappointing.
Q : Who do you want to face in this GSL?
I hope to have the first game with the easiest opponent as possible. I don't ever want to be back to the qualifiers. I don't really care about race a player plays. A player who isn't well known would be good.
Q : You must want to make some achievements in this season. What are your goals?
I think I still need to improve a bit. Staying in Code A is my goal.
Q : How are you going to practise?
I will ask my ex-team members. But if situation is right I think getting a new team would be also good.
Q : Anything else you want to say?
I thank bros in ProS team house and the coach as well as Min-Woo Ahn bro. I really appreciate and thank for supports that my parents give me.
Q : You made back into GSL after a while. How do you feel right now?
I was always confident about being qualified again as I participated but I never got the results. I will try to reset my mind set and try really hard from now.
Q : Were today's matches tough?
Not tough in terms of how the games went. But there was a long waiting time between games and I got anxious. It was hard maintaining a good condition.
Q : You got an award for the best ceremonies in GSL 2011.
That was more nervous than when I was in a booth playing. I kept thinking about what I should be saying about receiving the award. All team members, particularly July, thought about this with me.
Q : There were other players who competed for that award.
I didn't really do good ceremonies in the individual league but I am sure that I did the best ones during GSTL. I will do stronger ceremonies from now on so players like MC and DRG cannot catch up with me.
Q : Protoss players in Startale seem to be weak nowadays. Isn't that because of Ace? (laughs)
It's also because of Squirtle (laughs). We got our mind sets straight as we spent the new years. We were bit laid back since June-July last year. But we all got fired up while watching GSL awards. I like how my starting of 2012 is good. I will try to make upsets in this season.
Q : What's your goal then as you returned this season?
Getting into Up/Down matches. Parting went into Code S straight away and so did Oz. I am a particularly good friend with Oz and I learnt from him that capturing the first opportunity is the most important. I will try to get into Code S right away.
Q : Did you learn something new while you were having a down time?
I didn't improve much in my game plays but I mature up my personalities. I learnt a lot.
Q : Do you have any players that you would like to face in particular?
I think I am the challenger no matter who the opponent is. I won't try to pick a player. But I want to avoid team kills.
Q : Anything that you would like to add?
All team members are practising really hard. We are going to win the upcoming GSTL. We are going to show more wonderful games and ceremonies to you so I hope you love Startale a lot.
On January 05 2012 16:33 dala wrote: The image links are broken for me. And could you perhaps add which teams they belong to?
Hmm images seem to be fine for me. I will upload them privately if anyone else experiences the same problem. Also if you click their player name, then you can check out what teams they are in : )
All deserving candidates from what I know, not a random in the bunch. Looking forward to see what teams life transfers to! :p No but really expect a "life has been traded to xxxxx" post very soon kid is a beast too good for Zenex.
even tho it sucks hard that sage lost the qualifier. life seems like a very nice guy, i hope he does well
great interviews and tnx for translations!
Q : How did you prepare for Code A qualifiers.
Protoss rushes are very strong so my main focus during practices to defending them off. But they were too hard to stop so I prepared all-in strategies. They all worked well so I got into Code A.
Thanks a lot for the translations! Much love =D <3
Excited to see many Zerg qualifying. I feel like we've recently been watching the rise of some future Protoss stars, so perhaps it's time to see the rise of some future zerg stars.
That and I'm so glad Ace made it. I've always had a soft spot for the Startale protoss duo of Squirtle and Ace.
On January 05 2012 21:09 RPR_Tempest wrote: Isn't Lure on Check Six?
Was wondering the same, his TLPD says so, but since they only have 2 members and you havent heard from them from a while who kowns. Hope he can get on a team or atleast get some good practice partners!
really nice interviews. And yeah you see here, that those qualifiers must be a hell of a competition since nearly everyone's mentioning, that he never wants to play them again ^^.
On January 05 2012 21:09 RPR_Tempest wrote: Isn't Lure on Check Six?
Was wondering the same, his TLPD says so, but since they only have 2 members and you havent heard from them from a while who kowns. Hope he can get on a team or atleast get some good practice partners!
They have a lot of members but only 2 with a Korean TLPD (Major and Lure)
Very nicely done, greatly appreciated! Nice to see some fresh faces to mix things up, I'd like to know what the semifinals/finals matches ended up being for each of the players though, better idea of who is going up and who is going down
Q : The results from Terran players today weren't that great. What's your personal opinion?
Maps are generally hard for Terran. They are particularly harder against Protoss players. I think that might be one of the reasons.
Yup. Map makers starting to make the tournament race representation more fair and balanced once again in the StarCraft world. This makes me happy to see that maps are really helping the once almost completely extinct in GSL protoss make a comeback alongside the new format.
On January 06 2012 07:41 Leifish wrote: Goddammit, please just invite Puma into GSL.
If he can't qualify, he doesn't deserve to be there, lol.
I like puma and feel like shit cus he didnt make it in. Also is the quote above serious? Cus there are many players who have never been in any Code of the GSL that are getting into Code A. And lets be honest, Demuslim, and the Chinese players don't "deserve" code A no matter how much I like them. Also I would love to see Demuslim or Xigua beat Puma or sage, or any of the other great players that got knocked out in qualifying.
On January 06 2012 07:41 Leifish wrote: Goddammit, please just invite Puma into GSL.
If he can't qualify, he doesn't deserve to be there, lol.
I like puma and feel like shit cus he didnt make it in. Also is the quote above serious? Cus there are many players who have never been in any Code of the GSL that are getting into Code A. And lets be honest, Demuslim, and the Chinese players don't "deserve" code A no matter how much I like them. Also I would love to see Demuslim or Xigua beat Puma or sage, or any of the other great players that got knocked out in qualifying.
Just because undeserving players have gotten invites it doesn't mean Puma deserves one.
On January 06 2012 07:41 Leifish wrote: Goddammit, please just invite Puma into GSL.
If he can't qualify, he doesn't deserve to be there, lol.
I like puma and feel like shit cus he didnt make it in. Also is the quote above serious? Cus there are many players who have never been in any Code of the GSL that are getting into Code A. And lets be honest, Demuslim, and the Chinese players don't "deserve" code A no matter how much I like them. Also I would love to see Demuslim or Xigua beat Puma or sage, or any of the other great players that got knocked out in qualifying.
"Deserve" is such a tricky word.
GOM wants foreign players. Therefore they invite foreign players into the GSL based on how well they've done in international tournaments, and those players "deserve" to be there because GOM has decided that they're good enough to compete. Unfortunately for Puma, he's Korean and Korean-trained. Therefore he needs to qualify the regular way to show GOM he "deserves" to be in the GSL. It's affirmative action.
On January 06 2012 07:29 Itsmedudeman wrote: Puma lost AGAIN???
Jesus
Maybe puma should be considered foreigner and get an invite?
Now we are totally going crazy here. seeds are not given cause your favorite player not got passed through the qualiefiers, at least they shouldn't be.
I didn't know it had been that long. It maybe because I quitted a game momentarily. When I left MVP I didn't play the game and just rested awhile then started to play again.
So many amazing players can't even qualify for code A even once, but Lure takes 5 months off and gets in. What a boss.
On January 06 2012 07:41 Leifish wrote: Goddammit, please just invite Puma into GSL.
If he can't qualify, he doesn't deserve to be there, lol.
I like puma and feel like shit cus he didnt make it in. Also is the quote above serious? Cus there are many players who have never been in any Code of the GSL that are getting into Code A. And lets be honest, Demuslim, and the Chinese players don't "deserve" code A no matter how much I like them. Also I would love to see Demuslim or Xigua beat Puma or sage, or any of the other great players that got knocked out in qualifying.
"Deserve" is such a tricky word.
GOM wants foreign players. Therefore they invite foreign players into the GSL based on how well they've done in international tournaments, and those players "deserve" to be there because GOM has decided that they're good enough to compete. Unfortunately for Puma, he's Korean and Korean-trained. Therefore he needs to qualify the regular way to show GOM he "deserves" to be in the GSL. It's affirmative action.
"deserves" is such a bad word to use. Gom knows very well that skill wise foreigners do not deserve to get an automatic seed. Even if they are good enough to be code S caliber, so are many of the Code A applicants who can't get in. Instead sc2 is a business. From a business standpoint they should bring in whoever brings in the most views. The problem is that from this standpoint, they really should be inviting Koreans such as Hero and Puma because they have a large foreign following and happen to be on foreign teams. However if they do this, it sets the precedent that joining a foreigner team is the sure way to get code s. This in turn will destroy the prestige of the league even more so. Obviously by giving foreign invites, the tournament is destroying the prestige, but if they didn't do so we eventually won't have a league from lacking of funding.
My only hope right now is that when Kespa does switch over, they will generate a fully functional, well-funded, and thoroughly viewed league that doesn't need to give need to give out foreign invites to remain sustainable.
It is for these reasons that I really admire and respect Jinro for not taking an invite that he didn't earn. A much more honorable approach when contrasted to Naniwa who took not one, nor two, but THREE code A invites. Then after he failed to qualify ALL 3 times, he gladly took a FREE code S seed, until Gom rescinded it for bad behavior.
Also before people start coming in arguing that Naniwa is code S level, listen to this. Yes, Naniwa may be good enough for code s, BUT so are many of the players still stuck in Code A. There's no reason other than increased viewership that Naniwa should get into Code S for free.
On January 06 2012 07:41 Leifish wrote: Goddammit, please just invite Puma into GSL.
If he can't qualify, he doesn't deserve to be there, lol.
I like puma and feel like shit cus he didnt make it in. Also is the quote above serious? Cus there are many players who have never been in any Code of the GSL that are getting into Code A. And lets be honest, Demuslim, and the Chinese players don't "deserve" code A no matter how much I like them. Also I would love to see Demuslim or Xigua beat Puma or sage, or any of the other great players that got knocked out in qualifying.
"Deserve" is such a tricky word.
GOM wants foreign players. Therefore they invite foreign players into the GSL based on how well they've done in international tournaments, and those players "deserve" to be there because GOM has decided that they're good enough to compete. Unfortunately for Puma, he's Korean and Korean-trained. Therefore he needs to qualify the regular way to show GOM he "deserves" to be in the GSL. It's affirmative action.
"deserves" is such a bad word to use. Gom knows very well that skill wise foreigners do not deserve to get an automatic seed. Even if they are good enough to be code S caliber, so are many of the Code A applicants who can't get in. Instead sc2 is a business. From a business standpoint they should bring in whoever brings in the most views. The problem is that from this standpoint, they really should be inviting Koreans such as Hero and Puma because they have a large foreign following and happen to be on foreign teams. However if they do this, it sets the precedent that joining a foreigner team is the sure way to get code s. This in turn will destroy the prestige of the league even more so. Obviously by giving foreign invites, the tournament is destroying the prestige, but if they didn't do so we eventually won't have a league from lacking of funding.
My only hope right now is that when Kespa does switch over, they will generate a fully functional, well-funded, and thoroughly viewed league that doesn't need to give need to give out foreign invites to remain sustainable.
It is for these reasons that I really admire and respect Jinro for not taking an invite that he didn't earn. A much more honorable approach when contrasted to Naniwa who took not one, nor two, but THREE code A invites. Then after he failed to qualify ALL 3 times, he gladly took a FREE code S seed, until Gom rescinded it for bad behavior.
Also before people start coming in arguing that Naniwa is code S level, listen to this. Yes, Naniwa may be good enough for code s, BUT so are many of the players still stuck in Code A. There's no reason other than increased viewership that Naniwa should get into Code S for free.
Well, a few things:
1.) I think it's healthier for the sport to foster a more international scene. You reach out to more people, and overall, you have more money flowing into the scene (esp. a scene like SC2, whose Korean scene is like a candle compared to the sun of BW), which will hopefully help it grow. If this means giving out foreign invites, then go ahead. (This coming from someone who doesn't consider nationality when picking players to root for; I'm pretty sure I can count on one hand the number of foreigners I genuinely like to watch play). I don't think "hoping" for KeSPA to come in and completely cut off foreign involvement is good to do for the sake of the sport, even if the alternative means driving down the competition a little.
2.) My issue with the Naniwa argument you're making is that ... well, he clearly pulls in the viewers and a good number of foreign tournament winnings. If they hadn't invited him from MLG, they'd just have ended up inviting another foreigner from MLG who was just overall not as good a player, which would drive down the competition even more.
On January 06 2012 07:41 Leifish wrote: Goddammit, please just invite Puma into GSL.
If he can't qualify, he doesn't deserve to be there, lol.
I like puma and feel like shit cus he didnt make it in. Also is the quote above serious? Cus there are many players who have never been in any Code of the GSL that are getting into Code A. And lets be honest, Demuslim, and the Chinese players don't "deserve" code A no matter how much I like them. Also I would love to see Demuslim or Xigua beat Puma or sage, or any of the other great players that got knocked out in qualifying.
"Deserve" is such a tricky word.
GOM wants foreign players. Therefore they invite foreign players into the GSL based on how well they've done in international tournaments, and those players "deserve" to be there because GOM has decided that they're good enough to compete. Unfortunately for Puma, he's Korean and Korean-trained. Therefore he needs to qualify the regular way to show GOM he "deserves" to be in the GSL. It's affirmative action.
"deserves" is such a bad word to use. Gom knows very well that skill wise foreigners do not deserve to get an automatic seed. Even if they are good enough to be code S caliber, so are many of the Code A applicants who can't get in. Instead sc2 is a business. From a business standpoint they should bring in whoever brings in the most views. The problem is that from this standpoint, they really should be inviting Koreans such as Hero and Puma because they have a large foreign following and happen to be on foreign teams. However if they do this, it sets the precedent that joining a foreigner team is the sure way to get code s. This in turn will destroy the prestige of the league even more so. Obviously by giving foreign invites, the tournament is destroying the prestige, but if they didn't do so we eventually won't have a league from lacking of funding.
My only hope right now is that when Kespa does switch over, they will generate a fully functional, well-funded, and thoroughly viewed league that doesn't need to give need to give out foreign invites to remain sustainable.
It is for these reasons that I really admire and respect Jinro for not taking an invite that he didn't earn. A much more honorable approach when contrasted to Naniwa who took not one, nor two, but THREE code A invites. Then after he failed to qualify ALL 3 times, he gladly took a FREE code S seed, until Gom rescinded it for bad behavior.
Also before people start coming in arguing that Naniwa is code S level, listen to this. Yes, Naniwa may be good enough for code s, BUT so are many of the players still stuck in Code A. There's no reason other than increased viewership that Naniwa should get into Code S for free.
Well, a few things:
1.) I think it's healthier for the sport to foster a more international scene. You reach out to more people, and overall, you have more money flowing into the scene (esp. a scene like SC2, whose Korean scene is like a candle compared to the sun of BW), which will hopefully help it grow. If this means giving out foreign invites, then go ahead. (This coming from someone who doesn't consider nationality when picking players to root for; I'm pretty sure I can count on one hand the number of foreigners I genuinely like to watch play). I don't think "hoping" for KeSPA to come in and completely cut off foreign involvement is good to do for the sake of the sport, even if the alternative means driving down the competition a little.
2.) My issue with the Naniwa argument you're making is that ... well, he clearly pulls in the viewers and a good number of foreign tournament winnings. If they hadn't invited him from MLG, they'd just have ended up inviting another foreigner from MLG who was just overall not as good a player, which would drive down the competition even more.
I really have to disagree with your point 1 here. Fostering is something that should happen locally. Fostering is something that should NOT happen in the most prestegious tournament in the world. That is not fostering, that is simply giving "weaker" players a free pass. This kind of stuff is hurting the reputation of the tournament. person A : "Yea its the biggest tournament in the world with the best players" person B: All fine and well but how did x got through the qualifiers exactly?" person A : he didn't, he got a free spot cause he has a different skin color"
Just look at this thread, i hope it was joking but people want to give Puma a free code A spot now as well. Why? Cause he plays in foreigner tournaments yet he fails to qualify the way the rest does. Hell now, they even give code S spots away for free, i wonder how this will end...
HI thanks for this, I was wondering if anyone else got a warning from chrome about malware when attempting to open this thread. It kept telling me that this page was linking to a site known to distribute malware?