He's had the kind of success this year (even without the 1st place finishes) that I wish Flash could have achieved more consistency this year (imo in his case too many eggs in the kespa proleague basket...).
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jonich0n
United States1982 Posts
He's had the kind of success this year (even without the 1st place finishes) that I wish Flash could have achieved more consistency this year (imo in his case too many eggs in the kespa proleague basket...). | ||
Faruko
Chile34158 Posts
The most consistent player ? Soulkey The best player in the world as of now ? sOs | ||
Zealously
East Gorteau22261 Posts
On November 16 2013 21:41 Faruko wrote: I cant believe some of you think that JD is the best player in the world, i just cant believe it... This is why. No other player has a comparable list of achievements in 2013. | ||
Faruko
Chile34158 Posts
On November 16 2013 21:44 Zealously wrote: This is why. No other player has a comparable list of achievements in 2013. besides the Bliizzcon and GF, not impressed at all, not to mention being second or 3th-4th out of every tournament, JD should be playing WCS KR, not NA, he has the skill for it Soulkey #1 ONLY PLAYING WCS KR, and sOs, well he won the most important tournament in the world | ||
Zealously
East Gorteau22261 Posts
On November 16 2013 21:49 Faruko wrote: besides the Bliizzcon and GF, not impressed at all, not to mention being second or 3th-4th out of every tournament, JD should be playing WCS KR, not NA, he has the skill for it Soulkey #1 ONLY PLAYING WCS KR, and sOs, well he won the most important tournament in the world I think the winningest player this year has won 3 championships. JD has placed top 4 in 7 tournaments, finishing second in five of those. All of said tournaments had top players participating. I'm not necessarily saying that JD is better than Soulkey or some shit, but it's undeniable that he has performed extremely well this year. The SC community has an obsession with gold medals and somehow always looks down on silvers, but there aren't many players that could have placed highly in seven major tournaments in a year, even if they had the chance. | ||
_SpiRaL_
Afghanistan1636 Posts
On November 16 2013 21:49 Faruko wrote: besides the Bliizzcon and GF, not impressed at all, not to mention being second or 3th-4th out of every tournament, JD should be playing WCS KR, not NA, he has the skill for it Soulkey #1 ONLY PLAYING WCS KR, and sOs, well he won the most important tournament in the world How about you link to the player with a better 2013 list of results? Instead of just saying X player because they won ONE tournament. | ||
Drake
Germany6146 Posts
On November 14 2013 08:57 shid0x wrote: sOs is. You are just jelly wax. yep. if jd would have won everyone would name him the champ of heaven ... not fair to sos he is best he stays best | ||
StarStruck
25339 Posts
On November 16 2013 21:54 Zealously wrote: I think the winningest player this year has won 3 championships. JD has placed top 4 in 7 tournaments, finishing second in five of those. All of said tournaments had top players participating. I'm not necessarily saying that JD is better than Soulkey or some shit, but it's undeniable that he has performed extremely well this year. The SC community has an obsession with gold medals and somehow always looks down on silvers, but there aren't many players that could have placed highly in seven major tournaments in a year, even if they had the chance. It comes down to the ways you lose. It's not always about winning man and yes many of those players don't get the same chances as your Jaedong's and MC's. More reason to get good individual sponsor or join a team that will fly you practically anywhere. On November 17 2013 11:33 Drake wrote: yep. if jd would have won everyone would name him the champ of heaven ... not fair to sos he is best he stays best Not Wax. I wouldn't either. Heck, I know a few other people who would say otherwise as well. Winning one championship doesn't necessarily make you the best either. This is the era we live in. | ||
Faruko
Chile34158 Posts
On November 17 2013 00:30 _SpiRaL_ wrote: How about you link to the player with a better 2013 list of results? Instead of just saying X player because they won ONE tournament. Soulkey, WCS KR > WCS AM I like JD but actually Im quite mad that JD plays WCS AM, he has the skill to go toe-to-toe in KR. hell... its quite dissapointed that one of the "big cheese" of BW is playing far from where the highest level of SC2 is Is there a reason why he doesnt play KR ? Because of EG ? This is quite the weird analogy (i hope you guys know about football lol), but its just like Atletico de Madrid winning the UEFA Euro League, its quite the achievement, but that team should be playing the Champions league, where the teams are better | ||
chairmobile
United States111 Posts
On November 14 2013 09:08 1Dhalism wrote: honestly do not understand where the rumor of Innovation dominating anything come from. http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Premier_Tournaments http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Major_Tournaments The only thing he dominated was the minds of the community. 75% winrate? Are you serious? That's absolutely unheard of, Flash BW level dominance. You way overestimate the importance of tournaments in this. | ||
StarStruck
25339 Posts
On November 17 2013 13:16 chairmobile wrote: 75% winrate? Are you serious? That's absolutely unheard of, Flash BW level dominance. You way overestimate the importance of tournaments in this. Not like they travel to all those tournaments either. It was mostly based on what he was doing in PL and then the WCS KR for that season where he looked dominant. Sometimes these things last a few months. Sometimes one tournament, but it's very difficult to ignore a player's results in PL when it goes on and on and on. | ||
_SpiRaL_
Afghanistan1636 Posts
On November 17 2013 13:11 Faruko wrote: Soulkey, WCS KR > WCS AM I like JD but actually Im quite mad that JD plays WCS AM, he has the skill to go toe-to-toe in KR. hell... its quite dissapointed that one of the "big cheese" of BW is playing far from where the highest level of SC2 is Is there a reason why he doesnt play KR ? Because of EG ? This is quite the weird analogy (i hope you guys know about football lol), but its just like Atletico de Madrid winning the UEFA Euro League, its quite the achievement, but that team should be playing the Champions league, where the teams are better SK doesn't have better results sorry. Korea is obviously better than Am but your attitude is Korean champ is the best who cares about all the other results which is just stupid. Blizzcon > WCS KR right? So JD > SK? Logic. | ||
chairmobile
United States111 Posts
On November 17 2013 13:27 StarStruck wrote: Not like they travel to all those tournaments either. It was mostly based on what he was doing in PL and then the WCS KR for that season where he looked dominant. Sometimes these things last a few months. Sometimes one tournament, but it's very difficult to ignore a player's results in PL when it goes on and on and on. Exactly, there was no foreign padding and his insane winrate by any standards was against pure korean lineups. There is a reason he captured the mind of the community. | ||
BeyondCtrL
Sweden642 Posts
Even then, I think it's for the best that the game has no definitive "best" player. It shows that the game has a deep pool of top class players that are contending at peak levels, which for us provide the best possible matches and the greatest variation in meta. Some people might enjoy having a singular overlord dominating a scene, but I think this is healthier over all. | ||
lolfail9001
Russian Federation40169 Posts
On November 17 2013 14:16 BeyondCtrL wrote: Uhm, isn't this article a bit hasty with concluding that sOs, Dear, JD or Soulkey cannot claim best players? Let's wait another season. Saying a player was dominating 5 months after he started consistently dominating is hindsight, but sOs or Dear might just be getting started, and even more likely JD will rape 2014. Even then, I think it's for the best that the game has no definitive "best" player. It shows that the game has a deep pool of top class players that are contending at peak levels, which for us provide the best possible matches and the greatest variation in meta. Some people might enjoy having a singular overlord dominating a scene, but I think this is healthier over all. Dear, sOs, JD and Soulkey (add Maru, Bomber and whoever on the side) are best players, but there is no best between them. | ||
Yoshirou_Iba
Paraguay37 Posts
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Destructicon
4713 Posts
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boxerfred
Germany8360 Posts
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bourne117
United States837 Posts
On November 18 2013 19:58 Destructicon wrote: To be honest, now with Taeja winning his 4th tournament this year, we may have to start adding him into consideration for title of best player of the year. Obviously he isn't there yet, but if he does manage to win DH Winter or GOM Cup or both, he would have quite a lot of strong arguments behind him. As far as I know he ins't in the Gom Cup sadly. | ||
Grumbels
Netherlands7028 Posts
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