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OGamingTV SC2
France84 Posts
32 nations confirmed for Nation Wars V! Time to vote for your favorite players: Vote here! Champions, we invite you to add #NW5 to your Twitter handle to remind the community to vote for you! | ||
Mun_Su
France2063 Posts
For other nations it's less complicated to chose. I hope people will vote for that vietnamian player nicknamed sOsfanboy | ||
Colouss
United States501 Posts
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argonautdice
Canada2654 Posts
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TheDougler
Canada8287 Posts
Go go NoRegret and Jig! I had the honor of losing to Jig for WCS 2012 Qualifiers. It was exhilarating! | ||
engesser1
264 Posts
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chipmonklord17
United States11944 Posts
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kaup
Germany22 Posts
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Durnuu
13271 Posts
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goner223
8 Posts
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engesser1
264 Posts
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Snarosc
France66 Posts
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Snarosc
France66 Posts
On February 28 2018 03:23 engesser1 wrote: i voted also for all terrans and avilo See this, you're exactly the type of people that shouldn't be allowed to vote. Putting a race above anything else, and preventing great players from coming in just because of a blind obsession. Thanks. | ||
SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
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engesser1
264 Posts
On February 28 2018 03:36 Snarosc wrote: See this, you're exactly the type of people that shouldn't be allowed to vote. Putting a race above anything else, and preventing great players from coming in just because of a blind obsession. Thanks. i'm sorry but i voted for great terran players. it's okay. | ||
SinO[Ob]
France897 Posts
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Mun_Su
France2063 Posts
For France I'll go with Dns Clem and ptidrogo. Stephano is always so disapointing in NW :/ Then I voted for the strongest, trying sometimes to have the 3 races. The only "not optimal" player i choose was avilo. Because he is Avilo. | ||
ByuuN
Poland678 Posts
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Durnuu
13271 Posts
On February 28 2018 04:49 ByuuN wrote: No ByuN Yeah, the requirement to sign up was to be GM, so MMR tankers unfortunately can't be there Speaking of which, wtf is hendronimus doing there ? He's like 4.5k MMR on EU lol. Being GM was a requirement... | ||
ByuuN
Poland678 Posts
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Charoisaur
Germany15616 Posts
Neeb/Printf/avilo | ||
iMrising
United States1099 Posts
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Zaxon
Belgium209 Posts
I wanne see him burn because hes so toxic and does not wanne improve himself. But i do hope in America that Neeb,Mcanning,Jonsnow can carry. | ||
NinjaToss
Austria1383 Posts
Meo/Hunter/Uply for Vietnam because I know them all personally | ||
Ej_
47656 Posts
On February 28 2018 05:00 iMrising wrote: vote printf for the memes printf/MCanning/avilo is the vote of the people | ||
TheBloodyDwarf
Finland7519 Posts
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pvsnp
7676 Posts
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KreationHidden
United States3 Posts
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Quincel
119 Posts
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DSK
England1106 Posts
(Added) Among others, of course. | ||
imre
France9263 Posts
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KGssv2
21 Posts
Avilo and MCanning gogo!!! | ||
Nakajin
Canada8772 Posts
Never tought I would pass my night going through online qualifier, go4sc and national weekly to see who should be the third player representing Italy lol By the way I'm seeing no Rail and no Strange for Russia, someone know if they register on another name or are they just not there? | ||
raptor11234
18 Posts
In all seriousness tho, this will be an amazing Nation wars. I cant wait :D | ||
ShAd_1337
Germany1042 Posts
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
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jimminy_kriket
Canada5466 Posts
On February 28 2018 03:39 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: I certainly voted avilo. I think we all should Yes. I personally would love to watch Avilo face off against any one of the koreans. | ||
thanatossc
2 Posts
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Kevin_Sorbo
Canada3217 Posts
On February 28 2018 11:57 thanatossc wrote: Mcanning Neeb and PrintF, can we please keep Avilo out of NW, that would be great What are you talking about dude??? We are saving motherfucking esports. I am so glad to see the community coming together to mech it happen. If avilo calls Inno a hacker I will die a happy man. | ||
HotDOSBuns
Canada172 Posts
Sucks that Scarlett won't be there to partake in maple syrup shots but these guys are good representatives, I'd be pretty happy with this team. Couldn't bring myself to vote for avilo, I don't have it in me. Tried to vote for what I felt were the best teams, not the meme teams. And yes, I am fun at parties. | ||
LaughNgamez
Canada514 Posts
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Mun_Su
France2063 Posts
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redloser
Korea (South)1721 Posts
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Drfilip
Sweden590 Posts
On February 28 2018 12:58 HotDOSBuns wrote: Jig, Jugg and NoReg; Oh Canadia~ Sucks that Scarlett won't be there to partake in maple syrup shots but these guys are good representatives, I'd be pretty happy with this team. Couldn't bring myself to vote for avilo, I don't have it in me. Tried to vote for what I felt were the best teams, not the meme teams. And yes, I am fun at parties. I vote for those I think deserve some more attention and appreciation along with those I think will make a good atmosphere for the players. I will not vote for avilo since I don't think he'll mix well with the other players. Parties? I do not attend them. | ||
Penev
28348 Posts
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SwagSurgeon1
1 Post
On February 28 2018 06:27 TheBloodyDwarf wrote: I voted for Serral and Zhuge because I know they are somewhat good but I had to check GM-ladder and TheMusZero was highest ranked of the rest so he gets my third vote Personally I go with Aligulac ratings above ranking - in my opinion it shows more of the player than a current ladder rank ^_^ With Finland it'd be quite obvious whom to vote in that case! http://aligulac.com/periods/209/?nats=FI&page=1 | ||
Corvuuss
Austria354 Posts
On February 28 2018 18:51 SwagSurgeon1 wrote: Show nested quote + On February 28 2018 06:27 TheBloodyDwarf wrote: I voted for Serral and Zhuge because I know they are somewhat good but I had to check GM-ladder and TheMusZero was highest ranked of the rest so he gets my third vote Personally I go with Aligulac ratings above ranking - in my opinion it shows more of the player than a current ladder rank ^_^ With Finland it'd be quite obvious whom to vote in that case! http://aligulac.com/periods/209/?nats=FI&page=1 Aligulac rankings are a meme and with good reason. Well for Austria it is easy, but I voted inno/soo/classic for Korea | ||
D-light
Finland7364 Posts
On February 28 2018 19:03 Corvuuss wrote: Show nested quote + On February 28 2018 18:51 SwagSurgeon1 wrote: On February 28 2018 06:27 TheBloodyDwarf wrote: I voted for Serral and Zhuge because I know they are somewhat good but I had to check GM-ladder and TheMusZero was highest ranked of the rest so he gets my third vote Personally I go with Aligulac ratings above ranking - in my opinion it shows more of the player than a current ladder rank ^_^ With Finland it'd be quite obvious whom to vote in that case! http://aligulac.com/periods/209/?nats=FI&page=1 Aligulac rankings are a meme and with good reason. Well for Austria it is easy, but I voted inno/soo/classic for Korea Though when the difference there is that large, while the two are rather close when it comes to current mmr I'd go with the one who's had way more tournament experience and success (like clearly being the 3rd best player in the Starcraft2.fi 7V. Cup 3 months ago). Voted for inno/soo/classic yesterday also, but now based on the votes the best team technically possible is probably inno/soo/zest so voting for that... but looks likely that MMA will get too many nostalgia meme points. edit. Eh... maybe have to start voting for PartinG to at least get the better nostalgia player there. | ||
aftnSHaN
1 Post
On February 28 2018 04:51 Durnuu wrote: Yeah, the requirement to sign up was to be GM, so MMR tankers unfortunately can't be there Speaking of which, wtf is hendronimus doing there ? He's like 4.5k MMR on EU lol. Being GM was a requirement... ByuN is gm, 10th on kr ladder rn lol and was 2 end of december. | ||
sweffymo
United States62 Posts
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Charoisaur
Germany15616 Posts
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TheBloodyDwarf
Finland7519 Posts
On February 28 2018 18:51 SwagSurgeon1 wrote: Show nested quote + On February 28 2018 06:27 TheBloodyDwarf wrote: I voted for Serral and Zhuge because I know they are somewhat good but I had to check GM-ladder and TheMusZero was highest ranked of the rest so he gets my third vote Personally I go with Aligulac ratings above ranking - in my opinion it shows more of the player than a current ladder rank ^_^ With Finland it'd be quite obvious whom to vote in that case! http://aligulac.com/periods/209/?nats=FI&page=1 Well this gives even bigger reason not to vote for PuPu. 2 matches this year. 5 matches last november and matches before that are from august. Meaning his Aligulac rating is really outdated. Did you really just make new account to reply to me :O | ||
Ej_
47656 Posts
On March 01 2018 02:14 Charoisaur wrote: Are really all signed up players GM? Seems strange that so many countries have 3+ GMs One of the Belgian players is 4,5k mmr I think :D | ||
Nakajin
Canada8772 Posts
On February 28 2018 18:15 Drfilip wrote: Show nested quote + On February 28 2018 12:58 HotDOSBuns wrote: Jig, Jugg and NoReg; Oh Canadia~ Sucks that Scarlett won't be there to partake in maple syrup shots but these guys are good representatives, I'd be pretty happy with this team. Couldn't bring myself to vote for avilo, I don't have it in me. Tried to vote for what I felt were the best teams, not the meme teams. And yes, I am fun at parties. I vote for those I think deserve some more attention and appreciation along with those I think will make a good atmosphere for the players. I will not vote for avilo since I don't think he'll mix well with the other players. Parties? I do not attend them. I vote only base on results in tournament and dedication, I didn't vote for avilo because his results aren't as good as other players. I was invited to a party once a few years ago, didn't go. | ||
ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
On March 01 2018 02:58 Ej_ wrote: Show nested quote + On March 01 2018 02:14 Charoisaur wrote: Are really all signed up players GM? Seems strange that so many countries have 3+ GMs One of the Belgian players is 4,5k mmr I think :D How'd he deceive Aeromi? | ||
PuPu
Finland120 Posts
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D-light
Finland7364 Posts
On March 01 2018 02:41 TheBloodyDwarf wrote: Show nested quote + On February 28 2018 18:51 SwagSurgeon1 wrote: On February 28 2018 06:27 TheBloodyDwarf wrote: I voted for Serral and Zhuge because I know they are somewhat good but I had to check GM-ladder and TheMusZero was highest ranked of the rest so he gets my third vote Personally I go with Aligulac ratings above ranking - in my opinion it shows more of the player than a current ladder rank ^_^ With Finland it'd be quite obvious whom to vote in that case! http://aligulac.com/periods/209/?nats=FI&page=1 Well this gives even bigger reason not to vote for PuPu. 2 matches this year. 5 matches last november and matches before that are from august. Meaning his Aligulac rating is really outdated. Did you really just make new account to reply to me :O Really not seeing that if one would vote for the best ones from Finland, somehow PuPu wouldn't be the third player. Because PuPu has 15 less games against random players in tournaments after the Finnish tourney last November*, as I mentioned above, where he did way way better than TheMusZero? *also had a 3 month break from tournaments before that (yet still has almost 2x the games there since 2017) Though I guess it won't matter too much. It's just a tiny bit confusing. | ||
LaughNgamez
Canada514 Posts
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DSh1
292 Posts
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Durnuu
13271 Posts
On March 01 2018 04:04 DSh1 wrote: PartinG would be nice to see how good he is again. From is Ladder ranking he should be back From their ladder rankings Maru and Cure should have traded GSLs back and forth since 2016. | ||
pvsnp
7676 Posts
And apparently, the system is allowing people to vote once every day. Is that a bug? | ||
Penev
28348 Posts
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JimSocks
United States968 Posts
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Mun_Su
France2063 Posts
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Mizconout
49 Posts
User was warned for this post. | ||
Drfilip
Sweden590 Posts
On March 01 2018 04:23 pvsnp wrote: I just realized that the current standings are visible o.O And apparently, the system is allowing people to vote once every day. Is that a bug? 3 votes per nation per day. You are supposed to make sure your favourite makes it by voting every day and looking at the standings to see how things are going. | ||
ejozl
Denmark3169 Posts
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MKStyles
106 Posts
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Mun_Su
France2063 Posts
On March 01 2018 18:01 ejozl wrote: How about we get 1 Protoss in that Korean lineup I'll vote Classic soO INno every day. Parting is a relic of the past, he has not yet near to his former level, I want strong contenders for each country and CLassic is hot af atm. | ||
D-light
Finland7364 Posts
On March 01 2018 19:07 Mun_Su wrote: Show nested quote + On March 01 2018 18:01 ejozl wrote: How about we get 1 Protoss in that Korean lineup I'll vote Classic soO INno every day. Parting is a relic of the past, he has not yet near to his former level, I want strong contenders for each country and CLassic is hot af atm. I mean PartingG may be a relic of the past, but he's got a way better shot at taking third place from the inferior MMA than anyone else, especially Classic. Voted for inno/soo/classic the first day also, but sometimes you have to start making some compromises and go with the lesser evil. | ||
Romnel
11 Posts
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gtbex
Poland39 Posts
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Penev
28348 Posts
this community.. | ||
waiting2Bbanned
United States154 Posts
On March 02 2018 07:48 Penev wrote: so little votes for Classic this community.. IMHO ppl are not voting for Classic and voting for the likes of MMA just to tank K's team | ||
leublix
493 Posts
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SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
On March 02 2018 09:10 waiting2Bbanned wrote: IMHO ppl are not voting for Classic and voting for the likes of MMA just to tank K's team If Canada can't have our best players, everyone is going down with us | ||
geokilla
Canada8162 Posts
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Mun_Su
France2063 Posts
On March 01 2018 20:21 D-light wrote: Show nested quote + On March 01 2018 19:07 Mun_Su wrote: On March 01 2018 18:01 ejozl wrote: How about we get 1 Protoss in that Korean lineup I'll vote Classic soO INno every day. Parting is a relic of the past, he has not yet near to his former level, I want strong contenders for each country and CLassic is hot af atm. I mean PartingG may be a relic of the past, but he's got a way better shot at taking third place from the inferior MMA than anyone else, especially Classic. Voted for inno/soo/classic the first day also, but sometimes you have to start making some compromises and go with the lesser evil. I was thinking of switching for Zest cause the lad is quite hot atm and higher than Classic but I didn't realise that Parting was at 6.5K mmr. I may vote for him, at least Team Kor will have terran zerg protoss | ||
shid0x
Korea (South)5014 Posts
On March 01 2018 20:22 Romnel wrote: For Italy we have finally Reynor on the stage! Any Italian can tell me if Vasa will cast this tournament ? Even if i don't speak italian i remember his cast being extremely entertaining especially in such a context. | ||
ZinY
Belgium123 Posts
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Mun_Su
France2063 Posts
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DreamOen
Spain1400 Posts
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Solar424
United States4001 Posts
On March 03 2018 08:18 DreamOen wrote: I feel like NA aside from Neeb is lacking talent at a world class level? ( not trying to be inflamatory against mcnaning or jonsnow) >.< Canada has 2-time Code S Zerg NoRegret. | ||
waiting2Bbanned
United States154 Posts
Classic the only player to go 10-1 in games ..as for Inno & Zest.. LOL | ||
thanatossc
2 Posts
On March 03 2018 08:18 DreamOen wrote: I feel like NA aside from Neeb is lacking talent at a world class level? ( not trying to be inflamatory against mcnaning or jonsnow) >.< You are not wrong, with Puck being over in Korea and he didn't sign up. Jonsnow is for sure the 3rd best option and Mcanning a nice combination of memes and skill. hes high level enough to upset some high level players. unlike some NA Terran players No Kappa. | ||
gtbex
Poland39 Posts
On March 03 2018 08:18 DreamOen wrote: I feel like NA aside from Neeb is lacking talent at a world class level? ( not trying to be inflamatory against mcnaning or jonsnow) >.< What about Evilo? We must support him. | ||
Wintex
Norway16828 Posts
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Pierozan_85
1 Post
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Charoisaur
Germany15616 Posts
Even ahead of Mcannig now | ||
ne4aJIb
Russian Federation3208 Posts
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Darkhorse
United States23454 Posts
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Charoisaur
Germany15616 Posts
On March 03 2018 23:22 Darkhorse wrote: Ok guys imma need you all to make this happen for my main man aLive. We're only down like a couple thousand votes. Everyone knows they want the IPL4 champ to represent Korea sorry, rather vote for Queen | ||
xelnaga_empire
613 Posts
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polpot
3002 Posts
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pvsnp
7676 Posts
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Hemlock.695
7 Posts
If he faced Rote (Spain) it would get salty, as always in ladder... Hope to see some funny games! | ||
The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
On March 06 2018 07:44 pvsnp wrote: Voted avilo, cause I just want to watch the world burn USA is a meme team anyway, so why not go for the biggest ones? As long as nationwars thinks it's a good idea to have the voting system noone can really claim that it's about competitive integrity either. Vote Mcanning, printf and avilo! | ||
Bub
United States3517 Posts
Wish these would be subtitles. | ||
Mun_Su
France2063 Posts
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Kevin_Sorbo
Canada3217 Posts
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DieuCure
France3713 Posts
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JonSnow
United States67 Posts
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JonSnow
United States67 Posts
On March 03 2018 08:18 DreamOen wrote: I feel like NA aside from Neeb is lacking talent at a world class level? ( not trying to be inflamatory against mcnaning or jonsnow) >.< NA has a handful of top level players (Special, Scarlett, Kelazhur ) along with Neeb. If you're talking about USA only then you're right. I can't argue that I'm not at a world class level like Neeb, but I'll try my best and can win some games! | ||
Mun_Su
France2063 Posts
On March 07 2018 14:13 JonSnow wrote: Show nested quote + On March 03 2018 08:18 DreamOen wrote: I feel like NA aside from Neeb is lacking talent at a world class level? ( not trying to be inflamatory against mcnaning or jonsnow) >.< NA has a handful of top level players (Special, Scarlett, Kelazhur ) along with Neeb. If you're talking about USA only then you're right. I can't argue that I'm not at a world class level like Neeb, but I'll try my best and can win some games! In geography lesson we learned that Mexico was in central America or else. I looked in wikipedia and they say nothing about it. Is Mexico North America ? My votes of the day for Neeb Avilo and JonSnow ! (and still same koreans) As for french do you think voting Stephano is wise ? | ||
jodljodl
107 Posts
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MKStyles
106 Posts
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Poopi
France12466 Posts
On March 07 2018 17:01 Mun_Su wrote: Show nested quote + On March 07 2018 14:13 JonSnow wrote: On March 03 2018 08:18 DreamOen wrote: I feel like NA aside from Neeb is lacking talent at a world class level? ( not trying to be inflamatory against mcnaning or jonsnow) >.< NA has a handful of top level players (Special, Scarlett, Kelazhur ) along with Neeb. If you're talking about USA only then you're right. I can't argue that I'm not at a world class level like Neeb, but I'll try my best and can win some games! In geography lesson we learned that Mexico was in central America or else. I looked in wikipedia and they say nothing about it. Is Mexico North America ? My votes of the day for Neeb Avilo and JonSnow ! (and still same koreans) As for french do you think voting Stephano is wise ? I think he is definitely top 3 atm so yeah | ||
SplattedOne
155 Posts
EDIT: Or maybe not? | ||
ReachTheSky
United States3294 Posts
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mierin
United States4938 Posts
On March 07 2018 14:13 JonSnow wrote: Show nested quote + On March 03 2018 08:18 DreamOen wrote: I feel like NA aside from Neeb is lacking talent at a world class level? ( not trying to be inflamatory against mcnaning or jonsnow) >.< NA has a handful of top level players (Special, Scarlett, Kelazhur ) along with Neeb. If you're talking about USA only then you're right. I can't argue that I'm not at a world class level like Neeb, but I'll try my best and can win some games! So NA actually stands for All the Americas? | ||
Kalera
United States338 Posts
On March 07 2018 17:01 Mun_Su wrote: Show nested quote + On March 07 2018 14:13 JonSnow wrote: On March 03 2018 08:18 DreamOen wrote: I feel like NA aside from Neeb is lacking talent at a world class level? ( not trying to be inflamatory against mcnaning or jonsnow) >.< NA has a handful of top level players (Special, Scarlett, Kelazhur ) along with Neeb. If you're talking about USA only then you're right. I can't argue that I'm not at a world class level like Neeb, but I'll try my best and can win some games! In geography lesson we learned that Mexico was in central America or else. I looked in wikipedia and they say nothing about it. Is Mexico North America ? Central America is not a continent. There is a North and South America. Mexico is in North America. If you are talking about servers, than anyone in the Americas is 'NA' of course. | ||
HsDLTitich
Italy824 Posts
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D-light
Finland7364 Posts
On March 07 2018 17:05 jodljodl wrote: mma & parting competing for the third korean spot? wth.... Well PartinG seems to be at a pretty good level at least. And then there's also the potential for entertainment. Could be worse. | ||
Justinian
United Kingdom158 Posts
Now though, MCanning and JonSnow's votes have jumped noticeably, pushing avilo into fourth place. I'm not sure what could happen to make voting patterns change like that. | ||
ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
On March 08 2018 07:31 Justinian wrote: Does anyone know how many votes avilo, MCanning and JonSnow had a few days ago? When I looked at the chart before today avilo was ahead, not by a large margin but all three were receiving votes in about the same ratio so the gap wasn't changing much in percentage terms since voting started. Now though, MCanning and JonSnow's votes have jumped noticeably, pushing avilo into fourth place. I'm not sure what could happen to make voting patterns change like that. Winter endorsed MCanning and JonSnow over avilo. | ||
Justinian
United Kingdom158 Posts
On March 08 2018 07:32 ZigguratOfUr wrote: Show nested quote + On March 08 2018 07:31 Justinian wrote: Does anyone know how many votes avilo, MCanning and JonSnow had a few days ago? When I looked at the chart before today avilo was ahead, not by a large margin but all three were receiving votes in about the same ratio so the gap wasn't changing much in percentage terms since voting started. Now though, MCanning and JonSnow's votes have jumped noticeably, pushing avilo into fourth place. I'm not sure what could happen to make voting patterns change like that. Winter endorsed MCanning and JonSnow over avilo. Ah, that could be it. A little suprising that he has such power though, I thought all of his viewers were bots. | ||
Keirden
17 Posts
On March 08 2018 07:44 Justinian wrote: Show nested quote + On March 08 2018 07:32 ZigguratOfUr wrote: On March 08 2018 07:31 Justinian wrote: Does anyone know how many votes avilo, MCanning and JonSnow had a few days ago? When I looked at the chart before today avilo was ahead, not by a large margin but all three were receiving votes in about the same ratio so the gap wasn't changing much in percentage terms since voting started. Now though, MCanning and JonSnow's votes have jumped noticeably, pushing avilo into fourth place. I'm not sure what could happen to make voting patterns change like that. Winter endorsed MCanning and JonSnow over avilo. Ah, that could be it. A little suprising that he has such power though, I thought all of his viewers were bots. His bots can vote too | ||
Waxangel
United States32499 Posts
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AlgeriaT
Sweden2195 Posts
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Mun_Su
France2063 Posts
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OGamingTV SC2
France84 Posts
Unfortunately it brings the Belgium players to 2, so they won't be able to compete in #NW5. We hope to see this nation back next time! | ||
Mulf
3 Posts
Because the track disses BaseTradeTV (among others), Rifkin strikes back with a track of his own: | ||
opisska
Poland8852 Posts
On March 09 2018 06:01 OGamingTV SC2 wrote: One Belgium player was not GM on eligible ladders in 2017-2018. We believe it was not a malicious intent from him but rather a misunderstanding. Unfortunately it brings the Belgium players to 2, so they won't be able to compete in #NW5. We hope to see this nation back next time! I don't think this is the right approach to this. You should have checked these requirements before signups closed and then have drawn a thick line. If such a problem is discovered later, well, it's too late and the player stays - it's not like him not being GM gives him an unfair advantage! If you did it that way, someone else from Belgium could have noted that a player is missing and signed up, instead of just cutting off a whole country later for not enough players. | ||
pvsnp
7676 Posts
*Reaches for popcorn* | ||
Fango
United Kingdom8807 Posts
On March 12 2018 04:16 pvsnp wrote: Voting will close in ~1 hour, looks like avilo made it after all *Reaches for popcorn* Praying for an Avilo vs Risky match | ||
ReachTheSky
United States3294 Posts
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DieuCure
France3713 Posts
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Drfilip
Sweden590 Posts
The USA-team had way higher numbers than everyone. The tension of who will be the 3 to participate must have spiked the vote interest. | ||
Psychobabas
2531 Posts
Mech it happen. | ||
Ej_
47656 Posts
We killed Starcraft with our own hands. | ||
pvsnp
7676 Posts
On March 12 2018 06:12 Ej_ wrote: We did it, boys. We killed Starcraft with our own hands. What is dead may never die | ||
ReachTheSky
United States3294 Posts
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Kevin_Sorbo
Canada3217 Posts
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Fango
United Kingdom8807 Posts
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KR_4EVR
316 Posts
Soul, JohnSnow, and Krinkle are probably the best non-KR talent that failed to get elected. | ||
Nakajin
Canada8772 Posts
On March 12 2018 06:12 Ej_ wrote: We did it, boys. We killed Starcraft with our own hands. They took David Kim, they took the matchfixers, but they may never get our self destroying tendancies | ||
Psychobabas
2531 Posts
TO VICTORY! | ||
brickrd
United States4894 Posts
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OkStyX
Canada1199 Posts
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Ansibled
United Kingdom9872 Posts
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Icarus2
China109 Posts
Nay | ||
pvsnp
7676 Posts
On March 12 2018 09:01 brickrd wrote: everyone knows exactly how avilo's matches will end but we're all going to watch it anyway because it's going to be hilarious This User was warned for this post. | ||
HsDLTitich
Italy824 Posts
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avilo
United States4100 Posts
On March 12 2018 12:00 HsDLTitich wrote: Always nice to see toxicity rewarded, well done lads! you might not wanna open your mouth too much more, you already make ESL italia look like enough of a joke and if you want me to illuminate people on IEM Katowice over a year ago i can surely do that. The event that you travelled with my gf to back then. I am most definitely sometimes jokingly toxic in-game. This differs from being a toxic person out-of-the-game, which i most definitely am not. Most people that voted for me understand this and this year in 2018 people like you are no longer going to be able to perpetuate a false image of me simply because you dislike me Also i'd like to say here, i appreciate everyone that voted for me, and that is against the true toxicity - the people in SC2 that try to be exclusive instead of inclusive. There were many people and entities that had nothing to do with Nation Wars that all attempted to rally against me for no reason - and it backfired on them gloriously, and all of you guys that voted for me gave them the finger and shut them down. You guys are all awesome | ||
D-light
Finland7364 Posts
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RandyLahey
1 Post
On March 12 2018 12:08 avilo wrote: Show nested quote + On March 12 2018 12:00 HsDLTitich wrote: Always nice to see toxicity rewarded, well done lads! you might not wanna open your mouth too much more, you already make ESL italia look like enough of a joke and if you want me to illuminate people on IEM Katowice over a year ago i can surely do that. The event that you travelled with my gf to back then. I am most definitely sometimes jokingly toxic in-game. This differs from being a toxic person out-of-the-game, which i most definitely am not. Most people that voted for me understand this and this year in 2018 people like you are no longer going to be able to perpetuate a false image of me simply because you dislike me Also i'd like to say here, i appreciate everyone that voted for me, and that is against the true toxicity - the people in SC2 that try to be exclusive instead of inclusive. There were many people and entities that had nothing to do with Nation Wars that all attempted to rally against me for no reason - and it backfired on them gloriously, and all of you guys that voted for me gave them the finger and shut them down. You guys are all awesome What girlfriend? You never even met her. Didn't you pay $3000 to sit by a fountain and she never showed? User was banned for this post. | ||
pvsnp
7676 Posts
On March 12 2018 14:04 RandyLahey wrote: Show nested quote + On March 12 2018 12:08 avilo wrote: On March 12 2018 12:00 HsDLTitich wrote: Always nice to see toxicity rewarded, well done lads! you might not wanna open your mouth too much more, you already make ESL italia look like enough of a joke and if you want me to illuminate people on IEM Katowice over a year ago i can surely do that. The event that you travelled with my gf to back then. I am most definitely sometimes jokingly toxic in-game. This differs from being a toxic person out-of-the-game, which i most definitely am not. Most people that voted for me understand this and this year in 2018 people like you are no longer going to be able to perpetuate a false image of me simply because you dislike me Also i'd like to say here, i appreciate everyone that voted for me, and that is against the true toxicity - the people in SC2 that try to be exclusive instead of inclusive. There were many people and entities that had nothing to do with Nation Wars that all attempted to rally against me for no reason - and it backfired on them gloriously, and all of you guys that voted for me gave them the finger and shut them down. You guys are all awesome What girlfriend? You never even met her. Didn't you pay $3000 to sit by a fountain and she never showed? Even if it's avilo, even if it was true, that's low. EDIT: Oh wait he got banned lmao | ||
MockHamill
Sweden1793 Posts
Win or lose his games are almost always entertaining. | ||
engesser1
264 Posts
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Ej_
47656 Posts
On March 12 2018 12:08 avilo wrote: Show nested quote + On March 12 2018 12:00 HsDLTitich wrote: Always nice to see toxicity rewarded, well done lads! you might not wanna open your mouth too much more, you already make ESL italia look like enough of a joke and if you want me to illuminate people on IEM Katowice over a year ago i can surely do that. The event that you travelled with my gf to back then. I am most definitely sometimes jokingly toxic in-game. Legendary post. Italian community members stealing avilo's online-once-happened-in-a-dream girlfriend | ||
HsDLTitich
Italy824 Posts
On March 12 2018 12:08 avilo wrote: Show nested quote + On March 12 2018 12:00 HsDLTitich wrote: Always nice to see toxicity rewarded, well done lads! you might not wanna open your mouth too much more, you already make ESL italia look like enough of a joke and if you want me to illuminate people on IEM Katowice over a year ago i can surely do that. The event that you travelled with my gf to back then. I am most definitely sometimes jokingly toxic in-game. This differs from being a toxic person out-of-the-game, which i most definitely am not. Most people that voted for me understand this and this year in 2018 people like you are no longer going to be able to perpetuate a false image of me simply because you dislike me Also i'd like to say here, i appreciate everyone that voted for me, and that is against the true toxicity - the people in SC2 that try to be exclusive instead of inclusive. There were many people and entities that had nothing to do with Nation Wars that all attempted to rally against me for no reason - and it backfired on them gloriously, and all of you guys that voted for me gave them the finger and shut them down. You guys are all awesome You're delusional, please talk about last year Katowice? What are you implying? | ||
SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
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showstealer1829
Australia3123 Posts
Well there's a good reason not to watch. | ||
holzofenbrot
Germany52 Posts
On March 12 2018 04:23 Fango wrote: Show nested quote + On March 12 2018 04:16 pvsnp wrote: Voting will close in ~1 hour, looks like avilo made it after all *Reaches for popcorn* Praying for an Avilo vs Risky match Avilo beat beat and trashtalked NoRegret on stream so I'm hoping for re :-) little bit sad about Parting not making it | ||
getg00d
United States120 Posts
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Poopi
France12466 Posts
Our french team is scary tho, we got the best french T/Z/P we could have hoped for! | ||
OkStyX
Canada1199 Posts
On March 12 2018 14:04 RandyLahey wrote: Show nested quote + On March 12 2018 12:08 avilo wrote: On March 12 2018 12:00 HsDLTitich wrote: Always nice to see toxicity rewarded, well done lads! you might not wanna open your mouth too much more, you already make ESL italia look like enough of a joke and if you want me to illuminate people on IEM Katowice over a year ago i can surely do that. The event that you travelled with my gf to back then. I am most definitely sometimes jokingly toxic in-game. This differs from being a toxic person out-of-the-game, which i most definitely am not. Most people that voted for me understand this and this year in 2018 people like you are no longer going to be able to perpetuate a false image of me simply because you dislike me Also i'd like to say here, i appreciate everyone that voted for me, and that is against the true toxicity - the people in SC2 that try to be exclusive instead of inclusive. There were many people and entities that had nothing to do with Nation Wars that all attempted to rally against me for no reason - and it backfired on them gloriously, and all of you guys that voted for me gave them the finger and shut them down. You guys are all awesome What girlfriend? You never even met her. Didn't you pay $3000 to sit by a fountain and she never showed? User was banned for this post. Oh, fuck off give him a break. | ||
OkStyX
Canada1199 Posts
On March 12 2018 15:57 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: Jeeze I was just kidding about voting for avilo, I didn't think it'd actually happen People who voted for Trump as a joke. | ||
Weavel
Finland9213 Posts
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HsDLTitich
Italy824 Posts
On March 12 2018 18:37 Shakattak wrote: Show nested quote + On March 12 2018 14:04 RandyLahey wrote: On March 12 2018 12:08 avilo wrote: On March 12 2018 12:00 HsDLTitich wrote: Always nice to see toxicity rewarded, well done lads! you might not wanna open your mouth too much more, you already make ESL italia look like enough of a joke and if you want me to illuminate people on IEM Katowice over a year ago i can surely do that. The event that you travelled with my gf to back then. I am most definitely sometimes jokingly toxic in-game. This differs from being a toxic person out-of-the-game, which i most definitely am not. Most people that voted for me understand this and this year in 2018 people like you are no longer going to be able to perpetuate a false image of me simply because you dislike me Also i'd like to say here, i appreciate everyone that voted for me, and that is against the true toxicity - the people in SC2 that try to be exclusive instead of inclusive. There were many people and entities that had nothing to do with Nation Wars that all attempted to rally against me for no reason - and it backfired on them gloriously, and all of you guys that voted for me gave them the finger and shut them down. You guys are all awesome What girlfriend? You never even met her. Didn't you pay $3000 to sit by a fountain and she never showed? User was banned for this post. Oh, fuck off give him a break. Why do we need to give him a break, he didn't give a break to Maria and he made her runaway from the SC2 scene with his constant stalking and harrassment. But it's nice to see that our community already forgot that and condoned his behaviour, wohoo let's go mech god! | ||
D-light
Finland7364 Posts
On March 12 2018 17:08 holzofenbrot wrote: Show nested quote + On March 12 2018 04:23 Fango wrote: On March 12 2018 04:16 pvsnp wrote: Voting will close in ~1 hour, looks like avilo made it after all *Reaches for popcorn* Praying for an Avilo vs Risky match little bit sad about Parting not making it Kinda surprised honestly with the combination of solid current form, entertainment, (chance for even distribution of races), and nostalgia that he still lost to MMA. | ||
DBooN
Germany2701 Posts
Are people that either worship or pick on people with mental issues really a majority in the sc2 community? | ||
Musicus
Germany23567 Posts
On March 12 2018 20:46 DBooN wrote: I thought avilo was confirmed to have mental issues? Why would you think that? | ||
holzofenbrot
Germany52 Posts
On March 12 2018 20:39 D-light wrote: Show nested quote + On March 12 2018 17:08 holzofenbrot wrote: On March 12 2018 04:23 Fango wrote: On March 12 2018 04:16 pvsnp wrote: Voting will close in ~1 hour, looks like avilo made it after all *Reaches for popcorn* Praying for an Avilo vs Risky match little bit sad about Parting not making it Kinda surprised honestly with the combination of solid current form, entertainment, (chance for even distribution of races), and nostalgia that he still lost to MMA. too many protosses split the votes, hero classic stats zest trap, while TY and Maru were missing | ||
DBooN
Germany2701 Posts
On March 12 2018 20:49 Musicus wrote: Show nested quote + On March 12 2018 20:46 DBooN wrote: I thought avilo was confirmed to have mental issues? Why would you think that? Wasn't there that whole drama where he went crazy because he thought he had a gf but didn't? | ||
D-light
Finland7364 Posts
On March 12 2018 20:49 holzofenbrot wrote: Show nested quote + On March 12 2018 20:39 D-light wrote: On March 12 2018 17:08 holzofenbrot wrote: On March 12 2018 04:23 Fango wrote: On March 12 2018 04:16 pvsnp wrote: Voting will close in ~1 hour, looks like avilo made it after all *Reaches for popcorn* Praying for an Avilo vs Risky match little bit sad about Parting not making it Kinda surprised honestly with the combination of solid current form, entertainment, (chance for even distribution of races), and nostalgia that he still lost to MMA. too many protosses split the votes, hero classic stats zest trap, while TY and Maru were missing Possibly. Though after the first couple of days (when I also voted for Classic first, then Zest) people really should've realized that PartinG was the only realistic option when it came to the protosses. :I | ||
Musicus
Germany23567 Posts
On March 12 2018 20:54 DBooN wrote: Show nested quote + On March 12 2018 20:49 Musicus wrote: On March 12 2018 20:46 DBooN wrote: I thought avilo was confirmed to have mental issues? Why would you think that? Wasn't there that whole drama where he went crazy because he thought he had a gf but didn't? Oh yeah that happened, thought you were talking about an actual medical examination though. Anything that we know about avilo that he shows on stream or Twitter can just be an act. | ||
Musicus
Germany23567 Posts
On March 12 2018 20:57 D-light wrote: Show nested quote + On March 12 2018 20:49 holzofenbrot wrote: On March 12 2018 20:39 D-light wrote: On March 12 2018 17:08 holzofenbrot wrote: On March 12 2018 04:23 Fango wrote: On March 12 2018 04:16 pvsnp wrote: Voting will close in ~1 hour, looks like avilo made it after all *Reaches for popcorn* Praying for an Avilo vs Risky match little bit sad about Parting not making it Kinda surprised honestly with the combination of solid current form, entertainment, (chance for even distribution of races), and nostalgia that he still lost to MMA. too many protosses split the votes, hero classic stats zest trap, while TY and Maru were missing Possibly. Though after the first couple of days (when I also voted for Classic first, then Zest) people really should've realized that PartinG was the only realistic option when it came to the protosses. :I I just kept voting for who I wanted to vote for, regardless of the chanes of the person making it. RIP Future and Classic | ||
DBooN
Germany2701 Posts
On March 12 2018 20:59 Musicus wrote: Show nested quote + On March 12 2018 20:54 DBooN wrote: On March 12 2018 20:49 Musicus wrote: On March 12 2018 20:46 DBooN wrote: I thought avilo was confirmed to have mental issues? Why would you think that? Wasn't there that whole drama where he went crazy because he thought he had a gf but didn't? Oh yeah that happened, thought you were talking about an actual medical examination though. Anything that we know about avilo that he shows on stream or Twitter can just be an act. I don't remember it very well, but I remember reading drastic things about the way he acted, something like crying for hours and and delusions about conspiracies against him? Seems a bit much for just an act, though maybe I'm just remembering wrongly. | ||
Musicus
Germany23567 Posts
On March 12 2018 21:05 DBooN wrote: Show nested quote + On March 12 2018 20:59 Musicus wrote: On March 12 2018 20:54 DBooN wrote: On March 12 2018 20:49 Musicus wrote: On March 12 2018 20:46 DBooN wrote: I thought avilo was confirmed to have mental issues? Why would you think that? Wasn't there that whole drama where he went crazy because he thought he had a gf but didn't? Oh yeah that happened, thought you were talking about an actual medical examination though. Anything that we know about avilo that he shows on stream or Twitter can just be an act. I don't remember it very well, but I remember reading drastic things about the way he acted, something like crying for hours and and delusions about conspiracies against him? Seems a bit much for just an act, though maybe I'm just remembering wrongly. Well I just don't think we should say he has mental issues unless we have actual proof of that. Otherwise it's just the perfect excuse for all the bullshit he pulls. | ||
showstealer1829
Australia3123 Posts
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RaccyG
14 Posts
He is honestly passionate about going to NW and is popular enough to win the vote. He probably even created a portion of the hype around the event which everybody should be happy about. This is exactly how it is supposed to work. Frankly, the complaints that I would find most justifiable are by the other contenders who didn't get voted into the top three. But instead it's mostly people who are pretty much uninvolved but, ironically, all the more toxic. And I could imagine that even to the players who did make it through the voting it is probably annoying that most of the NW 'hype' is just people complaining about one particular person being voted for. Also, if he wins a match or not is beside the point. People voted for him because they want to see him play. Probably a number of players will not win a single match; it's a completely normal thing to happen. | ||
Musicus
Germany23567 Posts
On March 12 2018 21:32 showstealer1829 wrote: To say he has mental issues is an insult to anyone who has mental issues. I don't think he does, He can be intelligent when he's not playing his "character". Agreed, people just like him or dislike him for how he displays himself on stream and in the public and that's completely okay. At the very least he put in the work to get the votes with his rap and 24 hour stream and I can respect that. The vote is just a popularity contest in the end. I voted JonSnow, but he certainly could've done more to get more votes. | ||
AlgeriaT
Sweden2195 Posts
Lol. | ||
ReachTheSky
United States3294 Posts
On March 12 2018 20:13 HsDLTitich wrote: Show nested quote + On March 12 2018 18:37 Shakattak wrote: On March 12 2018 14:04 RandyLahey wrote: On March 12 2018 12:08 avilo wrote: On March 12 2018 12:00 HsDLTitich wrote: Always nice to see toxicity rewarded, well done lads! you might not wanna open your mouth too much more, you already make ESL italia look like enough of a joke and if you want me to illuminate people on IEM Katowice over a year ago i can surely do that. The event that you travelled with my gf to back then. I am most definitely sometimes jokingly toxic in-game. This differs from being a toxic person out-of-the-game, which i most definitely am not. Most people that voted for me understand this and this year in 2018 people like you are no longer going to be able to perpetuate a false image of me simply because you dislike me Also i'd like to say here, i appreciate everyone that voted for me, and that is against the true toxicity - the people in SC2 that try to be exclusive instead of inclusive. There were many people and entities that had nothing to do with Nation Wars that all attempted to rally against me for no reason - and it backfired on them gloriously, and all of you guys that voted for me gave them the finger and shut them down. You guys are all awesome What girlfriend? You never even met her. Didn't you pay $3000 to sit by a fountain and she never showed? User was banned for this post. Oh, fuck off give him a break. Why do we need to give him a break, he didn't give a break to Maria and he made her runaway from the SC2 scene with his constant stalking and harrassment. But it's nice to see that our community already forgot that and condoned his behaviour, wohoo let's go mech god! I expected more professional behavior from you given you are an administrator for a real business. Shame on you. | ||
The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
Nationwars is entertainment first, people vote for whatever person they think will produce the most entertainment. If anything blame the system and nationwars itself, it's a popularity contest, even strengthened cause you can vote daily. If a serious competition was first priority there would be a qualifier. | ||
HsDLTitich
Italy824 Posts
On March 12 2018 22:07 ReachTheSky wrote: Show nested quote + On March 12 2018 20:13 HsDLTitich wrote: On March 12 2018 18:37 Shakattak wrote: On March 12 2018 14:04 RandyLahey wrote: On March 12 2018 12:08 avilo wrote: On March 12 2018 12:00 HsDLTitich wrote: Always nice to see toxicity rewarded, well done lads! you might not wanna open your mouth too much more, you already make ESL italia look like enough of a joke and if you want me to illuminate people on IEM Katowice over a year ago i can surely do that. The event that you travelled with my gf to back then. I am most definitely sometimes jokingly toxic in-game. This differs from being a toxic person out-of-the-game, which i most definitely am not. Most people that voted for me understand this and this year in 2018 people like you are no longer going to be able to perpetuate a false image of me simply because you dislike me Also i'd like to say here, i appreciate everyone that voted for me, and that is against the true toxicity - the people in SC2 that try to be exclusive instead of inclusive. There were many people and entities that had nothing to do with Nation Wars that all attempted to rally against me for no reason - and it backfired on them gloriously, and all of you guys that voted for me gave them the finger and shut them down. You guys are all awesome What girlfriend? You never even met her. Didn't you pay $3000 to sit by a fountain and she never showed? User was banned for this post. Oh, fuck off give him a break. Why do we need to give him a break, he didn't give a break to Maria and he made her runaway from the SC2 scene with his constant stalking and harrassment. But it's nice to see that our community already forgot that and condoned his behaviour, wohoo let's go mech god! I expected more professional behavior from you given you are an administrator for a real business. Shame on you. That doesn't answer my question. Avilo harrassed and stalked a person, to the point that she had to cut ties with everyone in this scene, and everyone is acting like that was no big deal. Shame on me for being passionate about this. On March 12 2018 21:50 AlgeriaT wrote: What I find particularly entertaining about this whole thing is that the Avilo haters probably brought this on themselves. That thread on Reddit bashing him for even being in the vote for example, and Rifkin's retort to his "rap... Not to mention the other thread here about Avilo chat people using VPN to manipulate the vote... Oh and Winter's anti-Avilo campaign in his stream of course! All that stuff generated a lot of attention = a lot of PR for Avilo. Any PR is good PR. And on top of that the haters end up coming off like worse people than Avilo himself, only succeeding in generating sympathy for him instead. Lol. Untrue, Avilo was always winning the poll since the very start of the votes. If anything, people calling him out made JonSnow closer | ||
showstealer1829
Australia3123 Posts
On March 12 2018 21:39 RaccyG wrote: I know this is called 'Nation Wars', but please people, let us be a little more civil about this, ok? Let's not. | ||
AlgeriaT
Sweden2195 Posts
On March 12 2018 22:58 HsDLTitich wrote: Show nested quote + On March 12 2018 22:07 ReachTheSky wrote: On March 12 2018 20:13 HsDLTitich wrote: On March 12 2018 18:37 Shakattak wrote: On March 12 2018 14:04 RandyLahey wrote: On March 12 2018 12:08 avilo wrote: On March 12 2018 12:00 HsDLTitich wrote: Always nice to see toxicity rewarded, well done lads! you might not wanna open your mouth too much more, you already make ESL italia look like enough of a joke and if you want me to illuminate people on IEM Katowice over a year ago i can surely do that. The event that you travelled with my gf to back then. I am most definitely sometimes jokingly toxic in-game. This differs from being a toxic person out-of-the-game, which i most definitely am not. Most people that voted for me understand this and this year in 2018 people like you are no longer going to be able to perpetuate a false image of me simply because you dislike me Also i'd like to say here, i appreciate everyone that voted for me, and that is against the true toxicity - the people in SC2 that try to be exclusive instead of inclusive. There were many people and entities that had nothing to do with Nation Wars that all attempted to rally against me for no reason - and it backfired on them gloriously, and all of you guys that voted for me gave them the finger and shut them down. You guys are all awesome What girlfriend? You never even met her. Didn't you pay $3000 to sit by a fountain and she never showed? User was banned for this post. Oh, fuck off give him a break. Why do we need to give him a break, he didn't give a break to Maria and he made her runaway from the SC2 scene with his constant stalking and harrassment. But it's nice to see that our community already forgot that and condoned his behaviour, wohoo let's go mech god! I expected more professional behavior from you given you are an administrator for a real business. Shame on you. That doesn't answer my question. Avilo harrassed and stalked a person, to the point that she had to cut ties with everyone in this scene, and everyone is acting like that was no big deal. Shame on me for being passionate about this. Show nested quote + On March 12 2018 21:50 AlgeriaT wrote: What I find particularly entertaining about this whole thing is that the Avilo haters probably brought this on themselves. That thread on Reddit bashing him for even being in the vote for example, and Rifkin's retort to his "rap... Not to mention the other thread here about Avilo chat people using VPN to manipulate the vote... Oh and Winter's anti-Avilo campaign in his stream of course! All that stuff generated a lot of attention = a lot of PR for Avilo. Any PR is good PR. And on top of that the haters end up coming off like worse people than Avilo himself, only succeeding in generating sympathy for him instead. Lol. Untrue, Avilo was always winning the poll since the very start of the votes. If anything, people calling him out made JonSnow closer Sorry but that is actually incorrect. Avilo was clearly behind both Mcanning and JonSnow about 3-4 days ago, I believe after Winter's stream campaign. Then the VPN thread happened, people began talking about Winter's campaign, Avilo posted his rap and Rifkin replied. At that point Avilo began rising in the vote surpassing even Mccanning who I believe he had always been behind earlier. Of course we'll never know exactly what caused what. But my bet is that the anti-Avilo campaign generated more sympathy for than against him, because people started feeling that his opposers were going too far. At least that was the case with myself. Oh, and I just found a Reddit comment by CatZ basically agreeing with what I'm saying, well worth a read for many reasons (he has several more very good comments in the same parent thread): https://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/8100sx/please_dont_vote_for_avilo_to_represent_the_usa/duzwy8m/ | ||
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Netherlands30538 Posts
Also MMA hype! | ||
JabuSeika
United States607 Posts
I'll just skip watching USA matches. I'm sure they'll still get a lot of viewers for the drama. | ||
Elentos
55454 Posts
On March 13 2018 00:49 JabuSeika wrote: Avilo represents the absolute worst in toxic behavior. Dude literally stalks and harrases women out of the scene. I'll just skip watching USA matches. I'm sure they'll still get a lot of viewers for the drama. They only have 1 player so it probably won't be too many matches anyway. | ||
Carminedust
487 Posts
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Carminedust
487 Posts
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JabuSeika
United States607 Posts
On March 13 2018 00:51 Elentos wrote: Show nested quote + On March 13 2018 00:49 JabuSeika wrote: Avilo represents the absolute worst in toxic behavior. Dude literally stalks and harrases women out of the scene. I'll just skip watching USA matches. I'm sure they'll still get a lot of viewers for the drama. They only have 1 player so it probably won't be too many matches anyway. I honestly wouldn't lose respect for Neeb if he pulled out. Why does he have to carry two streamers? Last time it was "funny haha, Nathanias made 100 workers, put it on reddit". Or "Nathanias said some funny things". I get why publicity wise that was good. But Neeb still had Puck to run some strats. What's the publicity now? What are the sponsors going to say when people pull out a clip of Avilo saying something against the SC2 Devs. Neeb's gonna put Avilo out there to mass ravens for 30 mins, and wear down his opponent? I'm willing to give the two streamers a chance, but it is still unfair on Neeb. | ||
ReachTheSky
United States3294 Posts
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avilo
United States4100 Posts
On March 12 2018 20:13 HsDLTitich wrote: Show nested quote + On March 12 2018 18:37 Shakattak wrote: On March 12 2018 14:04 RandyLahey wrote: On March 12 2018 12:08 avilo wrote: On March 12 2018 12:00 HsDLTitich wrote: Always nice to see toxicity rewarded, well done lads! you might not wanna open your mouth too much more, you already make ESL italia look like enough of a joke and if you want me to illuminate people on IEM Katowice over a year ago i can surely do that. The event that you travelled with my gf to back then. I am most definitely sometimes jokingly toxic in-game. This differs from being a toxic person out-of-the-game, which i most definitely am not. Most people that voted for me understand this and this year in 2018 people like you are no longer going to be able to perpetuate a false image of me simply because you dislike me Also i'd like to say here, i appreciate everyone that voted for me, and that is against the true toxicity - the people in SC2 that try to be exclusive instead of inclusive. There were many people and entities that had nothing to do with Nation Wars that all attempted to rally against me for no reason - and it backfired on them gloriously, and all of you guys that voted for me gave them the finger and shut them down. You guys are all awesome What girlfriend? You never even met her. Didn't you pay $3000 to sit by a fountain and she never showed? User was banned for this post. Oh, fuck off give him a break. Why do we need to give him a break, he didn't give a break to Maria and he made her runaway from the SC2 scene with his constant stalking and harrassment. But it's nice to see that our community already forgot that and condoned his behaviour, wohoo let's go mech god! And this is where you will continue to keep your mouth shut. I've kept up seeing comments popping up in last months of you, ESL ITALIA, attempting to perpetuate this. Which is where the conundrum comes in for me, because at this point Maria holds some responsibility to shut down people that are defaming me, like you and others, because now i will say this - what she did was irresponsible and ended up defaming both her and me. I highly suspect both you and another admin from ESL Italia, who's name I also have, were sexually harrassing Maria both during, and after IEM, most likely continuously telling her she cannot be involved in e-sports if she was involved with me because it would make ESL "look bad." You, and ESL Italia, a part of ESL have a dislike of me and apparently sexually harrassed Maria to the point you convinced her she could not be involved or seen with me otherwise "she wouldn't have a future in e-sports." The fact that i've seen you publicly comment even on reddit during and after the initial drama on my stream - "he was never in a relationship with her and is delusional" is beginning to be proof enough that you and ESL Italia were potentially the ones that advised Maria to lie on stream about ever dating me to save face after i found out she cheated on me. Considering you want to open your mouth now, and considering you are from the ESL Italia organization, considering Maria and I dated for 3 years, the day she lied about it she was talking to admins from ESL and was apparently advised by ESL to lie about being in a relationship with me to save face - also because she wanted to cover up the fact that she had massively cheated on me IRL. When i have people like you, and others, that are going to continue to push the narrative that i stalked and harrassed a girl, when you from ESL ITALIA know 100% different - there is now a problem and i can openly address it here now since you opened your stupid mouth. Myself and Maria mutually dated for 3 years. We talked everyday. She went to that IEM Katowice event, that voicemail was real. I knew she traveled with YOU to that event as part of ESL Italia because as i said, we were dating during all of that time and she told me everything. She told and showed me everything, including personal pictures that she had taken as well. After this event occurred, because of either what she did at this event, or what ESL ITALIA people were influencing her to do so that she could "be involved in e-sports", she then stupidly told me she could not have "<3 David" in her twitter. LOL Does this sound familiar to you? This might sound stupid to some people, but this is only the rabbit hole of e-sports cancer and toxicity that people like you bring onto others personal relationships, all in the sake of "working in e-sports." You cannot be completely oblivious that she was dating me that entire time because everyone in SC2 already publicly knew this back then, and she traveled to that event with you, an ESL ITALIA admin - nor will I allow you or anyone else to defame me any further with claims from you, AN ESL ITALIA ADMIN, that are completely false, and propagated by the fact Maria lied, apparently cheated on me, and lied to everyone else in this community. I never pushed Maria away from the SC2 scene - she did that herself by lying to me and everyone else to cover up the fact that she had cheated on me. If you as an ESL ITALIA REPRESENTATIVE AND ESL EMPLOYEE think it's a good idea to continue to PUBLICLY push this narrative that i'm a stalker and was harrassing a woman that i was dating, then i certainly hope you do not represent ESL in any way, shape, or form. You want to talk toxic in e-sports? Organizations like ESL Italia that have people like you that sexually harrass a known SC2 player's GF and attempt to tell them "hey you can't be involved with us in e-sports" if you're in association with "avilo" so stop dating him or you're not going further than this - you are the truely toxic mother fuckers in this scene, and there are people like you in every type of scene and business that exist that think you can do whatever the fuck you want, lie to get ahead, abuse power to bring other people down, etc. If any of the above is not true, then you can claim to be oblivious but how likely is that considering you traveled with her to that event? Let me go far to the other way and assume you are just an internet white knight that believes everything a woman says - if it is the case you were lied to and convinced by Maria herself that she was not dating me and you simply know of everything from an outside perspective - the fact is Maria still lied and is pushing people like you to defame me due to lying about us not being in a relationship. I find that highly unlikely though. But this stops now. You and your alt accounts here, twitch, reddit, wherever else are not going to push stalker/harrassment shit onto me when you are from goddamn ESL ITALIA and representing them and ESL. I have no doubt over the past 8 months you and others involved were the ones continuously trying to push this bullshit, and it stops today. You do not speak a word of Maria, let alone about me when i took insults, defamation, and bullshit for countless months after August simply to protect her despite the fact i had found out she cheated on me IRL. You and other people in this community did not even realize or understand we made up and were still talking after that but apparently she is just a bold faced liar all around and did not want to admit we were back together, didn't want to face responsibility for lying to an entire community, etc. Is there anything else you'd like to address about stalking/harrassment ESL Italia representative? There was NEVER any of that from my side, because myself and her mutually dated for 3 years, and continued to even after the drama in august. Now, ESL Italia, from your side of things, it seems very much the opposite. Do you, an official person from ESL Italia, want to continue to attempt to defame me? | ||
eDatingStud
1 Post
On March 13 2018 04:20 avilo wrote: Show nested quote + On March 12 2018 20:13 HsDLTitich wrote: On March 12 2018 18:37 Shakattak wrote: On March 12 2018 14:04 RandyLahey wrote: On March 12 2018 12:08 avilo wrote: On March 12 2018 12:00 HsDLTitich wrote: Always nice to see toxicity rewarded, well done lads! you might not wanna open your mouth too much more, you already make ESL italia look like enough of a joke and if you want me to illuminate people on IEM Katowice over a year ago i can surely do that. The event that you travelled with my gf to back then. I am most definitely sometimes jokingly toxic in-game. This differs from being a toxic person out-of-the-game, which i most definitely am not. Most people that voted for me understand this and this year in 2018 people like you are no longer going to be able to perpetuate a false image of me simply because you dislike me Also i'd like to say here, i appreciate everyone that voted for me, and that is against the true toxicity - the people in SC2 that try to be exclusive instead of inclusive. There were many people and entities that had nothing to do with Nation Wars that all attempted to rally against me for no reason - and it backfired on them gloriously, and all of you guys that voted for me gave them the finger and shut them down. You guys are all awesome What girlfriend? You never even met her. Didn't you pay $3000 to sit by a fountain and she never showed? User was banned for this post. Oh, fuck off give him a break. Why do we need to give him a break, he didn't give a break to Maria and he made her runaway from the SC2 scene with his constant stalking and harrassment. But it's nice to see that our community already forgot that and condoned his behaviour, wohoo let's go mech god! And this is where you will continue to keep your mouth shut. I've kept up seeing comments popping up in last months of you, ESL ITALIA, attempting to perpetuate this. Which is where the conundrum comes in for me, because at this point Maria holds some responsibility to shut down people that are defaming me, like you and others, because now i will say this - what she did was irresponsible and ended up defaming both her and me. I highly suspect both you and another admin from ESL Italia, who's name I also have, were sexually harrassing Maria both during, and after IEM, most likely continuously telling her she cannot be involved in e-sports if she was involved with me because it would make ESL "look bad." You, and ESL Italia, a part of ESL have a dislike of me and apparently sexually harrassed Maria to the point you convinced her she could not be involved or seen with me otherwise "she wouldn't have a future in e-sports." The fact that i've seen you publicly comment even on reddit during and after the initial drama on my stream - "he was never in a relationship with her and is delusional" is beginning to be proof enough that you and ESL Italia were potentially the ones that advised Maria to lie on stream about ever dating me to save face after i found out she cheated on me. Considering you want to open your mouth now, and considering you are from the ESL Italia organization, considering Maria and I dated for 3 years, the day she lied about it she was talking to admins from ESL and was apparently advised by ESL to lie about being in a relationship with me to save face - also because she wanted to cover up the fact that she had massively cheated on me IRL. When i have people like you, and others, that are going to continue to push the narrative that i stalked and harrassed a girl, when you from ESL ITALIA know 100% different - there is now a problem and i can openly address it here now since you opened your stupid mouth. Myself and Maria mutually dated for 3 years. We talked everyday. She went to that IEM Katowice event, that voicemail was real. I knew she traveled with YOU to that event as part of ESL Italia because as i said, we were dating during all of that time and she told me everything. She told and showed me everything, including personal pictures that she had taken as well. After this event occurred, because of either what she did at this event, or what ESL ITALIA people were influencing her to do so that she could "be involved in e-sports", she then stupidly told me she could not have "<3 David" in her twitter. LOL Does this sound familiar to you? This might sound stupid to some people, but this is only the rabbit hole of e-sports cancer and toxicity that people like you bring onto others personal relationships, all in the sake of "working in e-sports." You cannot be completely oblivious that she was dating me that entire time because everyone in SC2 already publicly knew this back then, and she traveled to that event with you, an ESL ITALIA admin - nor will I allow you or anyone else to defame me any further with claims from you, AN ESL ITALIA ADMIN, that are completely false, and propagated by the fact Maria lied, apparently cheated on me, and lied to everyone else in this community. I never pushed Maria away from the SC2 scene - she did that herself by lying to me and everyone else to cover up the fact that she had cheated on me. If you as an ESL ITALIA REPRESENTATIVE AND ESL EMPLOYEE think it's a good idea to continue to PUBLICLY push this narrative that i'm a stalker and was harrassing a woman that i was dating, then i certainly hope you do not represent ESL in any way, shape, or form. You want to talk toxic in e-sports? Organizations like ESL Italia that have people like you that sexually harrass a known SC2 player's GF and attempt to tell them "hey you can't be involved with us in e-sports" if you're in association with "avilo" so stop dating him or you're not going further than this - you are the truely toxic mother fuckers in this scene, and there are people like you in every type of scene and business that exist that think you can do whatever the fuck you want, lie to get ahead, abuse power to bring other people down, etc. If any of the above is not true, then you can claim to be oblivious but how likely is that considering you traveled with her to that event? Let me go far to the other way and assume you are just an internet white knight that believes everything a woman says - if it is the case you were lied to and convinced by Maria herself that she was not dating me and you simply know of everything from an outside perspective - the fact is Maria still lied and is pushing people like you to defame me due to lying about us not being in a relationship. I find that highly unlikely though. But this stops now. You and your alt accounts here, twitch, reddit, wherever else are not going to push stalker/harrassment shit onto me when you are from goddamn ESL ITALIA and representing them and ESL. I have no doubt over the past 8 months you and others involved were the ones continuously trying to push this bullshit, and it stops today. You do not speak a word of Maria, let alone about me when i took insults, defamation, and bullshit for countless months after August simply to protect her despite the fact i had found out she cheated on me IRL. You and other people in this community did not even realize or understand we made up and were still talking after that but apparently she is just a bold faced liar all around and did not want to admit we were back together, didn't want to face responsibility for lying to an entire community, etc. Is there anything else you'd like to address about stalking/harrassment ESL Italia representative? There was NEVER any of that from my side, because myself and her mutually dated for 3 years, and continued to even after the drama in august. Now, ESL Italia, from your side of things, it seems very much the opposite. Do you, an official person from ESL Italia, want to continue to attempt to defame me? I remember you once told Destiny you had "one or two" girlfriends. I'm assuming the other one was Sassy. Why do you only go for girls that are online, could be doing anything during the day that you can't confirm because you're not meeting them, and that you can't even be sure are real? Why put up with this when you can just go out and meet a woman irl? It's certainly not too hard and it's better than putting up with all this. Online girlfriends is something people in their early teens do. User was banned for this post. | ||
HsDLTitich
Italy824 Posts
If you dated her for three years, mind to post some pictures of you two together? | ||
BigFan
TLADT24917 Posts
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Tyrhanius
France947 Posts
On March 13 2018 00:49 JabuSeika wrote: Avilo represents the absolute worst in toxic behavior I've seen in the scene personally. I'll just skip watching USA matches. I'm sure they'll still get a lot of viewers for the drama. I think everyone could have fun watching avilo playing : the one who likes him will see him play the one who hates him will probably see him be humiliated | ||
TentativePanda
United States742 Posts
Also: Avilo situation one of the str8 up weirdest things ever lmao | ||
pvsnp
7676 Posts
On March 13 2018 05:04 Tyrhanius wrote: Show nested quote + On March 13 2018 00:49 JabuSeika wrote: Avilo represents the absolute worst in toxic behavior I've seen in the scene personally. I'll just skip watching USA matches. I'm sure they'll still get a lot of viewers for the drama. I think everyone could have fun watching avilo playing : the one who likes him will see him play the one who hates him will probably see him be humiliated Wasn't this the reasoning that Catz used as well? I agree that avilo will bring in more viewers, even if it's only people that want to see him lose. Hell, just look at how much attention Nation Wars is getting already, and the tournament hasn't even started yet. Some people are taking this way too seriously. Avilo is representing the US in SC2, not in the presidency. Perspective. | ||
ganil
253 Posts
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JabuSeika
United States607 Posts
On March 13 2018 05:12 pvsnp wrote: Show nested quote + On March 13 2018 05:04 Tyrhanius wrote: On March 13 2018 00:49 JabuSeika wrote: Avilo represents the absolute worst in toxic behavior I've seen in the scene personally. I'll just skip watching USA matches. I'm sure they'll still get a lot of viewers for the drama. I think everyone could have fun watching avilo playing : the one who likes him will see him play the one who hates him will probably see him be humiliated I agree that avilo will bring in more viewers, even if it's only people that want to see him lose. Hell, just look at how much attention Nation Wars is getting already, and the tournament hasn't even started yet. As a viewer I would want the most competitive matches possible. | ||
ReachTheSky
United States3294 Posts
On March 13 2018 05:42 JabuSeika wrote: Show nested quote + On March 13 2018 05:12 pvsnp wrote: On March 13 2018 05:04 Tyrhanius wrote: On March 13 2018 00:49 JabuSeika wrote: Avilo represents the absolute worst in toxic behavior I've seen in the scene personally. I'll just skip watching USA matches. I'm sure they'll still get a lot of viewers for the drama. I think everyone could have fun watching avilo playing : the one who likes him will see him play the one who hates him will probably see him be humiliated I agree that avilo will bring in more viewers, even if it's only people that want to see him lose. Hell, just look at how much attention Nation Wars is getting already, and the tournament hasn't even started yet. As a viewer I would want the most competitive matches possible. That's not what nation wars is about. If it was, the competitors would not be decided by a voting system but rather mmr. | ||
Azhrak
Finland1182 Posts
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blunderfulguy
United States1412 Posts
On March 13 2018 05:42 JabuSeika wrote: Show nested quote + On March 13 2018 05:12 pvsnp wrote: On March 13 2018 05:04 Tyrhanius wrote: On March 13 2018 00:49 JabuSeika wrote: Avilo represents the absolute worst in toxic behavior I've seen in the scene personally. I'll just skip watching USA matches. I'm sure they'll still get a lot of viewers for the drama. I think everyone could have fun watching avilo playing : the one who likes him will see him play the one who hates him will probably see him be humiliated I agree that avilo will bring in more viewers, even if it's only people that want to see him lose. Hell, just look at how much attention Nation Wars is getting already, and the tournament hasn't even started yet. As a viewer I would want the most competitive matches possible. ...and not all attention can be good attention. Attention =/= good attention. Popularity =/= positivity. Drama =/= positive community growth, especially when people causing the drama are continuing to harass people or, at the very least, start arguments all around the community that tend to quickly turn sour. A bunch of supporters of the situation compare it to when Idra was around and assume Idra = more viewers = better for everyone and this is the same thing, or believe that the scene needs to have a villain or what-have-you, or claim that someone who is known to have been toxic for years (or the "character they play" on stream and social media and forums has been toxic for years) is "perfectly normal" and claim their behavior is completely acceptable and it's okay for them to be popular... All of that is just bullshit. Idra and his popularity weren't built on a foundation of toxic behavior, they were built on his competitive attitude and skill and grew with, sure, drama, but also his team, teammates, rivals in competition, and national pride in the community, all of which were strengthened by the larger amount of coverage and discussion happening at the time. There was a lot of drama, a lot of story lines, a lot of toxicity, but there were also a lot of games, and a lot of good games. We should also be aware of how much more immature the StarCraft community and esports as a whole were back then compared to now, and think about how acceptable certain kinds of behavior should be now. And, to me, there are few acceptable things happening amidst a sea of unacceptable, toxic (and downright horrible) bullshit (from all over the place, but for a long time and most recently centered around one person/"character") that, despite how much I look forward to these events, I am quickly losing interest in this one. I can hope that good things come around for the other players, streamers, and community as a whole, but if so many people continue acting as if everything is sunshine and lollipops and praising one of the most toxic pieces of the community as a righteous deity, then how good is this event really going to be for everyone over the next few months. And which direction are things going to head in the long run... Sigh, long-winded blabbing over. TLDR: I'm disappointed in a lot of things, though I have never been one for drama or negativity anyway. | ||
Ansibled
United Kingdom9872 Posts
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Nakajin
Canada8772 Posts
Taiwan-Russia As the stand out match for me | ||
LongShot27
United States2084 Posts
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Poopi
France12466 Posts
I feel confident for this round UK vs Australia could be close | ||
Mun_Su
France2063 Posts
On March 13 2018 05:12 pvsnp wrote: Some people are taking this way too seriously. Avilo is representing the US in SC2, not in the presidency. Perspective. Well if you look at the US président... | ||
KR_4EVR
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Kevin_Sorbo
Canada3217 Posts
On March 13 2018 08:00 Poopi wrote: Reynor is a tough opponent but I believe the other two players are easy for our french squad! I feel confident for this round UK vs Australia could be close I am curious to see what Iaguz looks like now that he plays Z. Haven't seen him play since he switched races. | ||
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Netherlands30538 Posts
On March 13 2018 06:31 Azhrak wrote: Ro32 is set: https://twitter.com/NationWarsSC2/status/973300469618618369 Hmm Italian Reynor to kick out the host country France? And China is lucky Ptak is not playing for Croatia this time. Him beating Zest and Byun was legendary last year We've drawn Peru, should be doable but Smile is pretty decent and Catz is super smart so maybe we'll get memed by some sick builds. | ||
pvsnp
7676 Posts
On March 13 2018 08:19 Mun_Su wrote: Show nested quote + On March 13 2018 05:12 pvsnp wrote: Some people are taking this way too seriously. Avilo is representing the US in SC2, not in the presidency. Perspective. Well if you look at the US président... People were drawing comparisons to Trump for whatever reason. I know balance whining can get really partisan, but Starcraft isn't only politics. | ||
Bub
United States3517 Posts
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Nakajin
Canada8772 Posts
On March 13 2018 08:19 Mun_Su wrote: Show nested quote + On March 13 2018 05:12 pvsnp wrote: Some people are taking this way too seriously. Avilo is representing the US in SC2, not in the presidency. Perspective. Well if you look at the US président... Russia map hacker, democrats cheater, Kim Jong-Un no skills nuke abuser! | ||
opisska
Poland8852 Posts
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Aeromi
France14446 Posts
On March 13 2018 16:12 opisska wrote: Here you see why single elimination is a terrible format, why can't we have groups like there used to be? In single elim you can either seed like this and make most matches onesided or the other way around and loae favorites first round or a random mixture if the two evils... There will be a group stage when we have 16 teams left. | ||
opisska
Poland8852 Posts
On March 13 2018 16:36 Aeromi wrote: Show nested quote + On March 13 2018 16:12 opisska wrote: Here you see why single elimination is a terrible format, why can't we have groups like there used to be? In single elim you can either seed like this and make most matches onesided or the other way around and loae favorites first round or a random mixture if the two evils... There will be a group stage when we have 16 teams left. Ah, okay, that's definitely nice at least. Still a little sad for teams that get just one series against the heavy-hitters and then it's over for them. Luckily I moved from Czech Rep. to Poland, so no I am standing on the other side of the heavy hitting | ||
TheBloodyDwarf
Finland7519 Posts
Plus why Katowice 2018 is not included? | ||
Aeromi
France14446 Posts
On March 13 2018 18:02 TheBloodyDwarf wrote: Why is Mexico seeded higher with 7200p vs Finland 7870. Plus why Katowice 2018 is not included? Finland is seed 5 while Mexico is seed 6, it was just a typo and it did not affect seedings. Katowice was not included because the tournament was announced before Katowice. | ||
Aeromi
France14446 Posts
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KR_4EVR
316 Posts
On March 09 2018 06:01 OGamingTV SC2 wrote: One Belgium player was not GM on eligible ladders in 2017-2018. We believe it was not a malicious intent from him but rather a misunderstanding. Unfortunately it brings the Belgium players to 2, so they won't be able to compete in #NW5. We hope to see this nation back next time! I don't quite follow. If he's not quality, then Belgium will lose - no harm done. If he is quality, then maybe it's okay that he wasn't GM - no harm done. The only reason I can think of for the GM requirement is for larger countries, where there may be a Masters' level player with a stream that attracts popularity, and you just know there are better players who want to take the spot. | ||
Mountain_Lee
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AlgeriaT
Sweden2195 Posts
On March 13 2018 18:12 Aeromi wrote: Show nested quote + On March 13 2018 18:02 TheBloodyDwarf wrote: Why is Mexico seeded higher with 7200p vs Finland 7870. Plus why Katowice 2018 is not included? Finland is seed 5 while Mexico is seed 6, it was just a typo and it did not affect seedings. Katowice was not included because the tournament was announced before Katowice. Will the tournament start today as announced? Sorry but I couldn't find info anywhere. | ||
Azhrak
Finland1182 Posts
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France14446 Posts
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