soO and Stats advance to the Code S semifinals
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XiZeL
Switzerland92 Posts
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Olli
Austria24413 Posts
On March 10 2018 00:42 Musicus wrote: So when GSL was called WCS Korea it does also not count as a GSL win? The labeling is the important part? Whatever, it's really silly as you said and what counts is if it was a Code S or not. And soO was in the most Code S finals. It was held by GOM so it counts? I dunno, I don't decide the general consensus. All I know is GOM made a G5L trophy for Mvp in case he beat Life, because the community had agreed he'd won four GSLs. Personally I don't really care, I'd just like a bit of consistency. | ||
Musicus
Germany23567 Posts
On March 10 2018 00:48 Olli wrote: It was held by GOM so it counts? I dunno, I don't decide the general consensus. All I know is GOM made a G5L trophy for Mvp in case he beat Life, because the community had agreed he'd won four GSLs. Personally I don't really care, I'd just like a bit of consistency. Oh yeah that trophy was sick. I also think we need consistency, so we just have to add Code S I think. So Mvp was in 6 GSL finals, but soO was in 6 Code S finals and that's more impressive. Of course Mvp > soO since he actually won finals . | ||
Poopi
France12454 Posts
On March 09 2018 23:54 Olli wrote: Mvp was in six, won 4 of them. He lost to MMA and Life in GSL finals. I guess reading that reminded me why Mvp is still the GOAT, wow. | ||
Fango
United Kingdom8760 Posts
On March 09 2018 23:54 Olli wrote: Mvp was in six, won 4 of them. He lost to MMA and Life in GSL finals. Weekender/korea vs the world style events don't count. They aren't nearly as fair or competitive as a Code S. People only think they are because it has GSL in the name. Code S is what people refer to when they say "X won GSL". | ||
Nakajin
Canada8747 Posts
On March 10 2018 00:09 Musicus wrote: Mvp won 3 GSLs and one Korea + World Allstar thingy, so I guess that Fango didn't count the Korea vs the World one as a real GSL final. Let's just call it Code S finals to clarify. Blame liquipedia I just took a look at their medals ranking | ||
pieroog
Poland146 Posts
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Waxangel
United States32432 Posts
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GrandTerran
71 Posts
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pvsnp
7676 Posts
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Freeborn
Germany421 Posts
Great army positioning and micro int hese battles. The two losses seemed mostly build order related. | ||
starkiller123
United States4029 Posts
On March 10 2018 02:36 GrandTerran wrote: Classic with better strategy, Stats with far better micro Stats 4/10 micro according to Classic lol | ||
Musicus
Germany23567 Posts
On March 10 2018 05:01 starkiller123 wrote: Stats 4/10 micro according to Classic lol And Classic 10/10 knowledge because he is a Protoss, proven by his chin. | ||
Phredxor
New Zealand15074 Posts
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gtbex
Poland39 Posts
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KR_4EVR
316 Posts
On March 10 2018 02:36 GrandTerran wrote: Classic with better strategy, Stats with far better micro I don't think that's really it. Stats had superior Tactics and upgrade advantages. | ||
TronJovolta
United States323 Posts
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RealityTheGreat
China564 Posts
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Xoronius
Germany6362 Posts
On March 10 2018 01:52 Fango wrote: Weekender/korea vs the world style events don't count. They aren't nearly as fair or competitive as a Code S. People only think they are because it has GSL in the name. Code S is what people refer to when they say "X won GSL". So, if we only count Code S; what about the open seasons? Do we take them them away as well? What about the Super Tournament, that Polt won? Is that gone as well? This tournament happened in a time, when GSL was still young and we didn't know, that a clear Code-S/Code-A-structure would continue to exist for 7 years. GSL vs World is considered a "real" GSL, because it was seen as such, when it happened. It was considered as important as a Code-S-win, when it happened. Describing it as something minor is just wrong, if you consider the historical context. After all, isn't elevating something because it has "Code S" in the name the same thing as elevating something because it has "GSL" in the name? | ||
Fango
United Kingdom8760 Posts
On March 11 2018 08:37 Xoronius wrote: So, if we only count Code S; what about the open seasons? Do we take them them away as well? What about the Super Tournament, that Polt won? Is that gone as well? This tournament happened in a time, when GSL was still young and we didn't know, that a clear Code-S/Code-A-structure would continue to exist for 7 years. GSL vs World is considered a "real" GSL, because it was seen as such, when it happened. It was considered as important as a Code-S-win, when it happened. Describing it as something minor is just wrong, if you consider the historical context. After all, isn't elevating something because it has "Code S" in the name the same thing as elevating something because it has "GSL" in the name? You're missing the point. It's nothing to do with the name. Being called Code S is no different to being called WCS korea, or GSL open season or whatever. The point is, when you say someone "won GSL" it means they won a particular season. That's what matters. When Innovation plays in GSL he's labelled with three gold medals, not four. When Zest plays he's labelled with two etc. Afreeca don't include GSLvsTW and GSL world championship events for a reason. Random weekend tournaments shouldn't be included. Gom/Afreeca have run plenty of those over the years (GSL blizzard cup, Hot6 cup, GSL vs the world events, Super tournament, GSL world cup etc). Just because some of them have GSL in the name doesn't mean they carry the same prestige as Code S (or similar). | ||
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