so what prevents Serral from doing that?
Kingdom Come: Serral Sweeps the 2018 WCS Circuit
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fLyiNgDroNe
Belgium3958 Posts
so what prevents Serral from doing that? | ||
Locutos
Brazil177 Posts
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Acacia
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hiroshOne
Poland424 Posts
For me, Maru and Serral are both no1. U say Serral dominated potentially weaker - foreign scene, but in the other hand Maru dominated lagging Korean scene, which is not what it used to be back in a day. There are really only few players there that are competitive. Korean Zergs are far behind foreigner Zergs where it comes to understanding of current meta. When u watch Serral play and compare it to Rogue's or Dark's or soO''s it's pretty much obvious that he understands his race much better. That's only my opinion, so don't be harsh on that. | ||
Jerom
Netherlands588 Posts
On September 19 2018 02:47 Dave4 wrote: I think we have to be in just about the first ever situation where a player has won 5 premier tournaments in under a year and still is apparently 2nd only, while some are still claiming he is not even as good as a bunch of other players too. Very sad for Serral, he should be number 1 but keeps being rejected. Tfw 4 WCS and a GSL vs the world are being rated as more prestigious than 3 GSL code S and a WESG. Some people are insane. | ||
Fango
United Kingdom8805 Posts
On September 21 2018 14:38 hiroshOne wrote: For me, Maru and Serral are both no1. U say Serral dominated potentially weaker - foreign scene, but in the other hand Maru dominated lagging Korean scene, which is not what it used to be back in a day. There are really only few players there that are competitive. What you say is true, but the korean scene is still much greater then it's foreign counterpart in terms of skill. I don't see how this is debatable. Take Serral out of the picture and the best foreigners have done this year is Neeb's GSL run. IEM Katowice, WeSG, GSL vs the World were all landslides. | ||
hiroshOne
Poland424 Posts
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12116 Posts
On September 22 2018 05:04 hiroshOne wrote: U forgot about Reynor who knocked out Classic- top tier korean protoss- out of Code S. And that's it. One BO3!!! HOLY MOLY! What a bonjwa! (also their first match was won by Classic) \ Edit> let's be fair, Reynor didn't show much this year in terms of "vs. Koreans", Neeb showed us more. He has a bright future ahead, that's for sure, but ATM we can freely forget him in these relations IMO. | ||
BaneRiders
Sweden3630 Posts
On September 22 2018 07:46 deacon.frost wrote: And that's it. One BO3!!! HOLY MOLY! What a bonjwa! (also their first match was won by Classic) \ Edit> let's be fair, Reynor didn't show much this year in terms of "vs. Koreans", Neeb showed us more. He has a bright future ahead, that's for sure, but ATM we can freely forget him in these relations IMO. I think Reynor has done very well against koreans this year all things considered, and for sure much more than any one had expected in his first half season as a professional gamer. He has not won every single match obviously, but he has certainly made a splash, and he has won more than one Bo3 against koreans, online as well as offline, so no need to disrespect his performance like that. Give the guy the credit he deserves. | ||
hiroshOne
Poland424 Posts
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DomeGetta
480 Posts
On September 22 2018 16:02 hiroshOne wrote: You are all missing the point and the bigger picture here. The picture is, no matter the reasons, that more and more fireigners are equally matched vs koreans. And it feels it's a consisten rise of players that can do that. You can argue if it's because foreigners are getting better, or koreans are doing worse, but the fact is that it's happening. Yah Im not so sure here. This year kind of feels like last year except Serral is Neeb and he did a bit better vs the other foreigners. Neebs run in code S is impressive / Serrals gsl vs the world as well. Real question is will we see a foreigner beat a korean @ blizzcon in the bracket stage for the first time ever? Im gonna go with no. We have seen the gatekeeper level of code s Koreans fall off a bit (thx region lock) but the top level Koreans are as good if not better than ever. Ill be rooting to see a foreigner go deep but I wouldnt bet money on it. | ||
Dave4
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Drfilip
Sweden590 Posts
On September 25 2018 23:10 Dave4 wrote: Another day another tournament won by Serral - this time Qlash invitational. 27-3 overall score. The guy is so far ahead of this game. 2018 the Year of Serral. Has #YearOfHarstem officially ended? | ||
rotta
5560 Posts
Are we still in 2016? | ||
RandomOnlyTheHumanLf
58 Posts
I think we have entered into a new Flash vs Jaedong era. Only question is who is Flash is and who is Jaedong. Not even close. | ||
RandomOnlyTheHumanLf
58 Posts
I think Serral is more than a Bonjwa. He himself is the reason of foreigner skill rising up rapidly. Everyone in foreign scene is ripping their guts to try to beat Serral, practicing their asses off. This is the real value of that player. It's obvious especially in ZvZ. To be honest foreign ZvZ is much better and more skilled than Korean version of this matchup, so I'm really calm about Serral vs Rogue or Serral vs Dark at Blizzcon. For me, Maru and Serral are both no1. U say Serral dominated potentially weaker - foreign scene, but in the other hand Maru dominated lagging Korean scene, which is not what it used to be back in a day. There are really only few players there that are competitive. Korean Zergs are far behind foreigner Zergs where it comes to understanding of current meta. When u watch Serral play and compare it to Rogue's or Dark's or soO''s it's pretty much obvious that he understands his race much better. That's only my opinion, so don't be harsh on that. I understand why foreigners are very biased to their players. Koreans been winning every single blizzcon, took 95% of tournies whenever they attend. And Blizzard decided to make system 'Region lock', which means Korean GSL players can't attend WCS Circuit, cuz they will take all money again, and kill foreign scene. Blizzard wants to give foreign scene a chance to grow vs Koreans. Neeb winning Kespa Cup? Serral winning GSLvsWorld? Not enough. The problem is rest foreigners can't win anything vs Koreans. That's all. Foreign fans always have been desperate on having a foreign player better than Koreans. It's very natural. And bonjwa, isn't something that can be achieved that so so so easily like you said. If someone wins, GSL 6 times in a row, and take blizzcons 2 years in a row, then we can say he is more than a 'bonjwa'. | ||
Dave4
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RandomOnlyTheHumanLf
58 Posts
On October 06 2018 03:05 Dave4 wrote: He is certainly in the B discussion. I think a win at BlizzCon would affirm this as first non Korean Bonjwa... Almost a year undefeated Winning minor league 4 times doesn't make you bonjwa. Serral got defeated 0-3 by Classic in IEM world championship, and 0-3 by Maru in WESG as well. Are you new to starcraft scene? Then welcome. But sorry, if you claim Serral's achievement in minor leagues is bonjwa level, then there should be more than 10 people deserved to be called bonjwa in sc2 history. | ||
deacon.frost
Czech Republic12116 Posts
On October 11 2018 05:07 RandomOnlyTheHumanLf wrote: Winning minor league 4 times doesn't make you bonjwa. Serral got defeated 0-3 by Classic in IEM world championship, and 0-3 by Maru in WESG as well. Are you new to starcraft scene? Then welcome. But sorry, if you claim Serral's achievement in minor leagues is bonjwa level, then there should be more than 10 people deserved to be called bonjwa in sc2 history. Let's give him foreigner banjo title | ||
RandomOnlyTheHumanLf
58 Posts
I agree. For all the foreign fan bois. We gotta make one for them. | ||
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