Check out the trailer below to see Danny Rand (Finn Jones) in action, alongside Colleen Wing (Jessica Henwick), Claire Temple (Rosario Dawson) and more.
Iron Fist debuts on March 17th
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karazax
United States3737 Posts
Check out the trailer below to see Danny Rand (Finn Jones) in action, alongside Colleen Wing (Jessica Henwick), Claire Temple (Rosario Dawson) and more. Iron Fist debuts on March 17th | ||
CosmicSpiral
United States15275 Posts
Besides recycling the same atmosphere and aesthetic from Daredevil (would it kill them to use Aja's work on Immortal Iron Fist as a reference for the cinematography?), there's a tricky balancing act when it comes to portraying Danny Rand. Somehow he has to be both ineffably cool and self-consciously aware of his own ridiculousness as a concept. Too much of the former makes him the bland antihero without a personality, and too much of the latter turns him into a wish-fulfillment caricature. So far the trailer is desperately trying to make him the former and I'm not buying it. | ||
Complete
United States1864 Posts
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Leporello
United States2845 Posts
Luke Cage had some very stylistic directing and writing, with interesting flashbacks and scene-transitions, etc. I hoped this show would have a similar appreciation for style. With Kung-Fu mysticism as an aesthetic, I was hoping for something more like Kill Bill or Crouching Tiger, where disbelief is taken for granted and we're just given something fantastic to enjoy. Instead, the show often tries to be gritty like Daredevil. But instead of blindness and personal adversity creating believable conflict, we're given some guy who spouts fortune-cookie one-liners and fights his sworn enemies... It just doesn't feel right. It tries to sell this Kung-Fu mysticism with a little bit too much sincerity, when neither the writers nor the actor are really up to it. Likewise, the action tries for the realism of Daredevil while still being Kung-Fu, and it just ends up feeling unreal in a not-so-fun way. The redeeming factor is the supporting characters, and some of the plot they're given. The Meachum family is what the show actually stands on. It's not a terrible show, just not as entertaining as it could've been. | ||
lestye
United States4098 Posts
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Kipsate
Netherlands45349 Posts
Colleen Wing is nice Rest of it kinda sucked, the fighting scenes seemed really bad as well. | ||
crappen
Norway1546 Posts
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Dingodile
4123 Posts
fighting scenes are not spectacular. I like that one drunk fighter :D, I hope they do a series with that drunk fighter. | ||
Complete
United States1864 Posts
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Xarles
459 Posts
"“Well, here’s the situation,” he begins, explaining that he only had three weeks to train before filming. “Unfortunately, with the filming schedule, I wasn’t given as much time as I would have liked to continue the training.” Shooting for 12 or 14 hours a day took its toll. “I was learning those fight scenes just 15 minutes before we shot them, because that was the schedule... It would be 2am, 3am, I’d just done a long day of work, and usually the stunt department would come up and say ‘Hey, right, we’ve got this huge 30 person fight and you’ve got to learn it right now.’ So I was learning it on the spot, within 15-20 minutes, and then shooting it. That was the reality for six months.” www.telegraph.co.uk I don't really feel that the writers have a well-defined idea of who Danny Rand is supposed to be or who they want him to be as his character is kinda all over the place. And his background doesn't match his character either, in the sense of how he acts and reacts to things. Some of that would be how he talks about mastering his body, mind and emotions which gets followed up by him freaking out or losing himself in his anger. The decision to limit his Iron Fist usage that much was prolly not a good idea either, since (to me at least) it's like having Spider-Man barely use his webbing and run to crime scenes instead of websling his way there. The showrunner prolly should've given him a few more Iron Fist variations other than hardening his hand and super-strengthening it since we just got that from Luke Cage. And there are so many other cool things he could do with his Iron Fist in the comics, that could've made it more entertaining on the show. It's also hard to believe him as a top-notch Kung-Fu fighter when he struggles that much against random thugs, especially the ones that are nothing but brawlers. From time to time, they do show other moves than what we're typically used to in hollywood shows/movies, but there are so few of them. It doesn't help that there's so much cutting in the fight scenes as well. Personally, I think Iron Fist really could've hooked in a lot of viewers if they had managed to either give the lead actor way more time to train like Keanu Reeves for John Wick or just found a lead with a martial arts background in order to give Iron Fist a distinct visually awesome fighting style where you wouldn't have to do a lot of cutting, and so you could see that it was actually the lead doing the fighting and not the stunt double. On the plus side, I pretty much liked all the other characters more or less. @Dingodile: If Danny Rand stuck to drunken style, I would've been way more entertained by his fight scenes at least. Ep 1-2 + Show Spoiler + It really confused me in the start that he couldn't rid himself of the drugs in his system through the Iron Fist or some mystical K'un-Lun technique. So I was a bit "wow... that top-notch force of nature kung fu fighter sure went down quickly". I wasn't really sold on having a lead being taken down that quickly and that easily in the first episode. About Ep 13 final fight + Show Spoiler + Of all people he could've faced in this show as the final boss, he faces Harold... | ||
Jockmcplop
United Kingdom8714 Posts
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ETisME
12071 Posts
It was pretty underwhelming really, it just has too much of a standard comic book plot. Maybe the biggest issue for me is that Danny just isn't so like-able at times. + Show Spoiler + And their point about brain wash etc never felt like cleared up, because he still appears quite brain washed Ward Meachum character is probably the most interesting for me. I watched the show to see his character mostly. | ||
Musicus
Germany23567 Posts
I liked the idea and setting of Iron Fist tbh. But the fights were too much of a let down. I expected the best fights and kungfu out of any of the Netflix Marvel series, but compared to Daredevil the fights were just disappointing. I was looking forward to a lot more cool technique and finesse in the fight scenes. There was not a single intense fight scene that came close to the hallway or stairway fights from Daredevil or the 1v1 vs Nobu. I do like Danny Rand though, the actor is not bad and Colleen is definitely one of the cooler women in the universe they are building. Hopefully Finn Jones gets a lot more time, training and preparation for the Defenders and Iron Fist season 2. Edit: Definitely liked Ward Meachum in this btw and his character and turns were great, but I have to wonder + Show Spoiler + why does Joy want to kill Danny at the end? Doesn't seem to make sense to me. Oh and the iron fist itself seems rather boring, he should be able to do more stuff with it and use it more often. But I never read the comics, so I don't know what he could do or what to expect. Seemed underwhelming though. | ||
SKNielsen1989
174 Posts
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Daray
6006 Posts
Really not worth watching. | ||
thePunGun
598 Posts
The writing was sadly not as good as previous Marvel Netflix shows, but not as terrible as Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. imo. Pro Tip: Don't make a drinking game out of it! My gf and her bestie chugged one, whenever someone said "Iron Fist" /"The Hand". They were pretty much hammered after episode 4 and things got ugly after that... Luckily I've quit drinking, so I got to watch 2 women in their early 30's pukin their brains out for about an hour. | ||
Xarles
459 Posts
On March 20 2017 00:28 Musicus wrote: So disappoining to read that they were so sloppy with the martial arts. I liked the idea and setting of Iron Fist tbh. But the fights were too much of a let down. I expected the best fights and kungfu out of any of the Netflix Marvel series, but compared to Daredevil the fights were just disappointing. I was looking forward to a lot more cool technique and finesse in the fight scenes. There was not a single intense fight scene that came close to the hallway or stairway fights from Daredevil or the 1v1 vs Nobu. I do like Danny Rand though, the actor is not bad and Colleen is definitely one of the cooler women in the universe they are building. Hopefully Finn Jones gets a lot more time, training and preparation for the Defenders and Iron Fist season 2. Edit: Definitely liked Ward Meachum in this btw and his character and turns were great, but I have to wonder + Show Spoiler + why does Joy want to kill Danny at the end? Doesn't seem to make sense to me. Oh and the iron fist itself seems rather boring, he should be able to do more stuff with it and use it more often. But I never read the comics, so I don't know what he could do or what to expect. Seemed underwhelming though. It didn't make sense to me either. I've only read the Immortal Iron Fist volume, and you get to see some cool Iron Fist powers in it, like a sort of Jedi Mind Trick where the hand naturally glows as well as extending the Iron Fist power to arrows and guns to make them more powerful. The volume also show us glimpses of other Iron Fists in history, like Wu Ao-Shi the Pirate Queen of Pinghai Bay. Sorry man, but Iron Fist wrapped filming on 8th of October and Defenders started filming 3 weeks later. "Finn Jones took to Instagram to share a video where he reveals Iron Fist has wrapped just hours before their panel at NYCC. The video itself is the final bit of confirmation on production finishing for the series, and will give the tired star just about three weeks to gear up for his part in The Defenders." screenrant.com | ||
Musicus
Germany23567 Posts
On March 20 2017 05:07 Xarles wrote: Show nested quote + On March 20 2017 00:28 Musicus wrote: So disappoining to read that they were so sloppy with the martial arts. I liked the idea and setting of Iron Fist tbh. But the fights were too much of a let down. I expected the best fights and kungfu out of any of the Netflix Marvel series, but compared to Daredevil the fights were just disappointing. I was looking forward to a lot more cool technique and finesse in the fight scenes. There was not a single intense fight scene that came close to the hallway or stairway fights from Daredevil or the 1v1 vs Nobu. I do like Danny Rand though, the actor is not bad and Colleen is definitely one of the cooler women in the universe they are building. Hopefully Finn Jones gets a lot more time, training and preparation for the Defenders and Iron Fist season 2. Edit: Definitely liked Ward Meachum in this btw and his character and turns were great, but I have to wonder + Show Spoiler + why does Joy want to kill Danny at the end? Doesn't seem to make sense to me. Oh and the iron fist itself seems rather boring, he should be able to do more stuff with it and use it more often. But I never read the comics, so I don't know what he could do or what to expect. Seemed underwhelming though. It didn't make sense to me either. I've only read the Immortal Iron Fist volume, and you get to see some cool Iron Fist powers in it, like a sort of Jedi Mind Trick where the hand naturally glows as well as extending the Iron Fist power to arrows and guns to make them more powerful. The volume also show us glimpses of other Iron Fists in history, like Wu Ao-Shi the Pirate Queen of Pinghai Bay. Sorry man, but Iron Fist wrapped filming on 8th of October and Defenders started filming 3 weeks later. "Finn Jones took to Instagram to share a video where he reveals Iron Fist has wrapped just hours before their panel at NYCC. The video itself is the final bit of confirmation on production finishing for the series, and will give the tired star just about three weeks to gear up for his part in The Defenders." screenrant.com Too bad, so he didn't get a lot of time to improve. Maybe they at least took more time filming the whole thing. The comic stuff looks pretty interesting and augmenting weapons could be cool. I guess he did learn how to burn poison and healed Colleen, so hopefully they will develope his abilities more. | ||
lestye
United States4098 Posts
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Manit0u
Poland17041 Posts
On March 19 2017 21:12 Complete wrote: I wish the fighting scenes were more like: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCFwwSq10aU They should definitely take some notes from this: Overall, this show was on par with Arrow (not bad, not something to write home about either), with quite similar story. It was really good to see Bunker again This actor definitely deserves more screen time in bigger productions. | ||
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