NBA Season 2018-2019 - Page 7
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Jerubaal
United States7675 Posts
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Yanokabo
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada15564 Posts
On October 30 2018 16:31 Yanokabo wrote: Obama tried to rig the nba so white players couldn’t play in it along with David stern welp, Obama and Stern failed miserably if that was their intent. The # of white players has remained steady since 1981. The change is that the white players in the NBA are from outside the USA. Very generally speaking, black americans quit playing baseball and replaced that sport with basketball. In parallel to this, white american players are choosing to play more baseball and less basketball. The number of professional black American baseball players has decreased substantially in the past 35 years. I'd say this trend is a grassroots cultural shift that is outside the boundaries of the administrative powers a baseball and/or basketball commissioner has. As a side note, the best basketball player at my university was a 6 foot tall native/indigenous canadian... go figure. some good trolling on your part though. | ||
JimmyJRaynor
Canada15564 Posts
my abdominal area is starting to hurt from laughing so hard at this stupidity ... i think i need a day off work | ||
Yanokabo
268 Posts
On October 30 2018 16:49 JimmyJRaynor wrote: welp, Obama and Stern failed miserably if that was their intent. The # of white players has remained steady since 1981. The change is that the white players in the NBA are from outside the USA. Very generally speaking, black americans quit playing baseball and replaced that sport with basketball. In parallel to this, white american players are choosing to play more baseball and less basketball. The number of professional black American baseball players has decreased substantially in the past 35 years. I'd say this trend is a grassroots cultural shift that is outside the boundaries of the administrative powers a baseball and/or basketball commissioner has. As a side note, the best basketball player at my university was a 6 foot tall native/indigenous canadian... go figure. some good trolling on your part though. White =/=European national by white obviously I’m referring to USA born white. European westerners fall into the same category as Chinese nba as far as concerned. Butler is far past his prime but if rockets traded for him their team would be stacked. But they don’t have a center and they will struggle against the size of LA Lakers and Dubs. Surprised Minnesota didn’t accept 4 1st round picks for butler? They need to build around KAT and butler is useless to them. | ||
JimmyJRaynor
Canada15564 Posts
in two short interviews i've seen leonard give he repeatedly mentions how good Lowry is at quarterbacking the offense. in one interview he did it three times in less than two minutes. People who were concerned Lowry was disgruntled about the trade can stop worrying. | ||
ZenithM
France15952 Posts
Honestly on paper there was not too many problems with how this Timberwolves squad is built. There isn't supposed to be a big clash of playstyles between Towns and Butler, they're supposed to play well with each other. The 3 main problems are Jimmy's effect on lockerroom (which evidently isn't good for KAT), Wiggins being underwhelming, and coaching. Their coach for the longest time hasn't managed minutes and shot attempts correctly. I remember fucking Teague routinely taking more shots than KAT. I don't care if "KAT doesn't ask for the ball hurr durr" that I hear all the time, if the coach knows what he's doing this team would distribute the shots better. | ||
JimmyJRaynor
Canada15564 Posts
no wonder the NBA seems to be the only thing with rising TV ratings. | ||
Jerubaal
United States7675 Posts
On November 01 2018 05:02 Yanokabo wrote: ]White =/=European national by white obviously I’m referring to USA born white. European westerners fall into the same category as Chinese nba as far as concerned. . What the hell are you talking about? | ||
Vindicare605
United States15707 Posts
Yea sure Lebron is great and all, but this team went from being fun to watch to being a super frustrating experience night in and night out. I'd rather have all my young dudes back and be hunting for .500 than this crap. Rondo is straight trash, he actually just hurts the team whenever he is out there. | ||
Yanokabo
268 Posts
On November 01 2018 08:48 ZenithM wrote: "Far past his prime" is a bit too much for Butler. He would be past his prime at the tail end of a supermax sure, but right now I would think he's in his prime. The problem is precisely that KAT (and Wiggins lol) are not in theirs yet. Honestly on paper there was not too many problems with how this Timberwolves squad is built. There isn't supposed to be a big clash of playstyles between Towns and Butler, they're supposed to play well with each other. The 3 main problems are Jimmy's effect on lockerroom (which evidently isn't good for KAT), Wiggins being underwhelming, and coaching. Their coach for the longest time hasn't managed minutes and shot attempts correctly. I remember fucking Teague routinely taking more shots than KAT. I don't care if "KAT doesn't ask for the ball hurr durr" that I hear all the time, if the coach knows what he's doing this team would distribute the shots better. I like the t wolves but my opinion on them is they are split at the heart. Conventional nba GM wisdom says you should always be in one of two category’s, win now or win later. If you have superstars you are the first, if you don’t you’re the second. So I view t wolves as a promising team that should be in the second group, Wiggins and towns are blue chip young guys with long careers ahead. Why add Teague and butler? Those were boneheaded moves to me. Develop dieieng, and any other rookies and just work. Don’t add overpaid /personality problem vets like Teague and butler ? What do u get a year in the future for doing that! | ||
ZenithM
France15952 Posts
That's what the Sixers hoped to do (but they haven't gotten Lebron this year), and what the Lakers can continue to do next year. With how good Towns is offensively right now, they could have gone for winning with Jimmy RIGHT NOW. The problem is Wiggins isn't as good as expected, and you're a few pieces away still from contention in a world where GSW exists. Butler probably saw that and got frustrated (and it doesn't help Minnesota that he's a clear step below the top tier superstars so they're hesitant to sign him the big check). | ||
JimmiC
Canada22789 Posts
On November 01 2018 18:15 ZenithM wrote: That's the way to build a team right now though. You tank to hope to get high draft picks. You hope they'll be talented. While they're still under small contracts you acquire/trade good but expensive veterans to complete the team. You go for contention with your rookies' bird right contracts and your veteran stars. That's what the Sixers hoped to do (but they haven't gotten Lebron this year), and what the Lakers can continue to do next year. With how good Towns is offensively right now, they could have gone for winning with Jimmy RIGHT NOW. The problem is Wiggins isn't as good as expected, and you're a few pieces away still from contention in a world where GSW exists. Butler probably saw that and got frustrated (and it doesn't help Minnesota that he's a clear step below the top tier superstars so they're hesitant to sign him the big check). Honestly the problem is Butler and his hunt for the max contract and superstardom. When all healthy last year they were on pace for 3rd. With Hou regressing they would if they all got along have hope for second in the west. Rose is playing better and Okagie can play some decent minutes. Then you are a Curry ankle injury or whatever from having a decent shot at the finals. This Butler only cares about winning BS narrative needs to stop. His top three teams were the Nets, Clippers and Knicks. All have less talent than the wolves, all have the same history of failure. | ||
ZenithM
France15952 Posts
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JimmiC
Canada22789 Posts
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darthfoley
United States7999 Posts
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andrewlt
United States7644 Posts
On November 01 2018 23:06 JimmiC wrote: His list shocked me I was expecting Lakers, GSW, Hou, but yeah he wants to get paid AND he wants to be the biggest star on the team. I think he thinks (and probably is right now) the best player on the Twolves, but because of age and potential most of the talk is about Towns. And shocker he is fighting most with Towns. Because of all the wiggins hate people think it is him, but both have said they have no beef. Neither Towns nor Butler has said that about each other. I view Butler similarly as Paul George. They're both good defenders who aren't quite good enough on offense to be the best player on a championship team. I guess you could call them the modern Scottie Pippen, except Pippen signed a ludicrously low roughly $2M per year for 10 years contract with the Bulls. That's how they were able to pay Jordan $30M+ per year while fielding a stacked team. Butler wants to be the top player on a big market team. He's not going to be in championship contention that way. | ||
JimmiC
Canada22789 Posts
On November 02 2018 00:16 andrewlt wrote: I view Butler similarly as Paul George. They're both good defenders who aren't quite good enough on offense to be the best player on a championship team. I guess you could call them the modern Scottie Pippen, except Pippen signed a ludicrously low roughly $2M per year for 10 years contract with the Bulls. That's how they were able to pay Jordan $30M+ per year while fielding a stacked team. Butler wants to be the top player on a big market team. He's not going to be in championship contention that way. I think you are right. But based on his choices and attitude I think that is his desire. He seems obsessed with being the "alpha". I think that if he ever wins a championship it will be like Stephen Jackson as a hard nosed veteran at the end of his career. He is too hard to get along with and not quite good enough to do it now by himself. | ||
JimmyJRaynor
Canada15564 Posts
Sometimes being at work surrounded by all your best pals isn't good for productivity. There is something to be said for professional distance. Lowry and Derozan are bffs. Has their play cratered now that they are separated? It doesn't look like it. Sometimes getting knocked out of your comfort zone makes for a good growth experience. Both Lowry and Derozan have altered their game a little bit in the absence of their BFF and I think they've both grown as basketball players. "Millenials are soft" The theme of "millenials are soft" really is just "young people are soft" and that theme has been playing forever. People who treat this "millenials are soft" like its never happened before and we've never had a group of 30 and 40 year olds saying a bunch of 20-something year olds are soft is off base. Its been going on forever. Same shit.... different decade. | ||
JimmiC
Canada22789 Posts
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