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On November 15 2018 10:22 JimmyJRaynor wrote: Leonard and Siakam on a 2 on 0 break .... Leonard is in a contract year and he hands Siakam 2 points on a silver platter.
? what is 2 points going to do for his contract, he's getting a max no matter what
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depends if he stays healthy or not. if the tendonosis returns and doesn't go away he won't get maxed. at this point every point matters.
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An assist is probably just as valuable when it comes to that. But as Zev mentioned and you finished. If dude is healthy he is getting the max, hell if he is not he still might when you consider who else has got it.
Still a nice thing to do that your teammates appreciate. He appears from the outside to be enjoying his time in T.O.
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The idea that he isn't getting a Max is laughable. There are like 10 players worse than him getting it.
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he has to pass a physical to get a contract.
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heartwarming win for Dwane Casey tonight in Toronto. He got mobbed by his players at the end of the game. It was also super cool how he used Jose Calderon.
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Way to early hot take on the big trade.
Min looks great wiggins and towns looked great, might be the fire they needed. Covington and saric fit in great. Big win.
Phi i didnt watch the game but butler had bad stats and they lost to freaking Orlando.
So based on this mountain of evidence, min wins the trade big time!
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My word. Rough day to be a Jazz fan. That was some game.
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Lebron just passed WIlt for #5 all time scoring.
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the Spurs lost all their decent wing defenders except Gay in the off season. it showed last night.
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Shocking stat of the day, especially to this thread. Shooting 1.7 more threes per game this year Wiggins is at 41.7% from 3. That puts him at 13th in the league with people with more then 25 shot attempts (he has 60). Shout out to willy cauly stien with 100% (1-1)
His FT is still pretty bad, but 75% is a lot less garbage than it was last year. He also had a pretty monster game in first without Butler, he could be on a up swing.
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You are blowing my mind right now.
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Currently, the 12th seed in the Western conference is .500.
West is a bloodbath this year for sure. I wonder how many years it needs to stay like this before the League FINALLY agrees to adjust the divisions.
It already doesn't make sense as "West vs East" considering laughably far east teams like Memphis and Minnesota are in the Western Conference while Chicago which is west of both of those cities is in the East.
The regional definitions already don't make sense, and we already did away with Divisional seeding, so why can't we just take that next logical step and fix the damn conference disparity.
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On November 17 2018 01:56 Jerubaal wrote: You are blowing my mind right now.
I was fairly shocked myself. I hope it lasts!
On November 17 2018 04:19 Vindicare605 wrote: Currently, the 12th seed in the Western conference is .500.
West is a bloodbath this year for sure. I wonder how many years it needs to stay like this before the League FINALLY agrees to adjust the divisions.
It already doesn't make sense as "West vs East" considering laughably far east teams like Memphis and Minnesota are in the Western Conference while Chicago which is west of both of those cities is in the East.
The regional definitions already don't make sense, and we already did away with Divisional seeding, so why can't we just take that next logical step and fix the damn conference disparity.
This happens in every sport but in other sports it seems to change more often about which conference is stronger. In the NBA it seems like the west has been better forever. With how much travel has changed I would not be against a balanced schedule with the stop 16 teams making the playoffs. And while I get their are some rivalries that would be effected. They are not the same as they were with all the player movement. GSW didn't have a rivalry with the Cavs, they did with LeBron. So I don't think it would be as big as impact as people fear.
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On November 17 2018 04:26 JimmiC wrote:I was fairly shocked myself. I hope it lasts! Show nested quote +On November 17 2018 04:19 Vindicare605 wrote: Currently, the 12th seed in the Western conference is .500.
West is a bloodbath this year for sure. I wonder how many years it needs to stay like this before the League FINALLY agrees to adjust the divisions.
It already doesn't make sense as "West vs East" considering laughably far east teams like Memphis and Minnesota are in the Western Conference while Chicago which is west of both of those cities is in the East.
The regional definitions already don't make sense, and we already did away with Divisional seeding, so why can't we just take that next logical step and fix the damn conference disparity. This happens in every sport but in other sports it seems to change more often about which conference is stronger. In the NBA it seems like the west has been better forever. With how much travel has changed I would not be against a balanced schedule with the stop 16 teams making the playoffs. And while I get their are some rivalries that would be effected. They are not the same as they were with all the player movement. GSW didn't have a rivalry with the Cavs, they did with LeBron. So I don't think it would be as big as impact as people fear.
I'm not as up to date on Eastern Conference rivalries, but the last REAL rivalry I can remember in the Western Conference aside from the Texas triangle, which wouldn't change anyway considering they're in the same state, is the Spurs vs Lakers in the 2000's.
You had the Clippers vs Warriors and Grizzlies a few years ago but that was relevant for like 3 years max.
Outside of the Philly/Boston thing (which is across all sports not just basketball tbh) the only Eastern Conference rivalry I can really remember is the Bulls vs Heat when it was led by Derrick Rose and Lebron James respectively, even that still only lasted a couple of years.
Those kinds of short term rivalries will still happen regardless of the system, the only real long term ones like Lakers/Celtics have all taken place across the conferences anyway due to the finals. We can still keep Conferences to make shit like that happen, but they should really revise them so that we dont have another 20 years of the West being as dominant as it has been.
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The system does keep perpetuating itself as well. Because a 10th place west team will be in the lottery and get a pretty good player compared to the 6th best east team who they are likely better than anyway.
It is going to be tough to get everyone on board however, in this thread in last two years we have multiple arguments about what conference is better, so some people don't see it as a problem.
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That's because we have years like this year where the east's top 3 teams are probably better than the west's top 3 teams. And the NBA Finals have mostly been pretty close to 50/50 post-Jordan. And that's all the casual fans know.
The problem is that the east's 4th-10th team have mostly been utter shit for the last 20 years. The bottom playoff teams in the west can be quite frisky opponents in the first round. The bottom playoff teams in the east are lottery teams.
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On November 17 2018 04:49 JimmiC wrote: The system does keep perpetuating itself as well. Because a 10th place west team will be in the lottery and get a pretty good player compared to the 6th best east team who they are likely better than anyway.
It is going to be tough to get everyone on board however, in this thread in last two years we have multiple arguments about what conference is better, so some people don't see it as a problem.
Oh please. Anyone that has ever tried to argue that the East has been a better conference at any point past 2010 is straight up lying to themselves.
Anytime before that it varies year by year, but the fact that the West won 8/10 championships in the 2000s and thus far all but 3 in the 2010's should be a clear indication of how lopsided everything is, to say nothing of the disparity in records between the two conferences over the last 20 years.
The East puts out maybe 2-3 good teams that can compete with Western Conference playoff teams each year. It's been a long time since it was anywhere close to competitive.
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On November 17 2018 07:06 Vindicare605 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2018 04:49 JimmiC wrote: The system does keep perpetuating itself as well. Because a 10th place west team will be in the lottery and get a pretty good player compared to the 6th best east team who they are likely better than anyway.
It is going to be tough to get everyone on board however, in this thread in last two years we have multiple arguments about what conference is better, so some people don't see it as a problem. Oh please. Anyone that has ever tried to argue that the East has been a better conference at any point past 2010 is straight up lying to themselves. Anytime before that it varies year by year, but the fact that the West won 8/10 championships in the 2000s and thus far all but 3 in the 2010's should be a clear indication of how lopsided everything is, to say nothing of the disparity in records between the two conferences over the last 20 years. The East puts out maybe 2-3 good teams that can compete with Western Conference playoff teams each year. It's been a long time since it was anywhere close to competitive.
I was on the west is much better then the east side so you are preaching to the choir. Just letting you know not everyone agrees!
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heat reportedly trying to get rid of kelly olynyk and josh richardson. I think that makes sense for them at least kells never liked his game for the nba too wobbly to play the 4.
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