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Honestly, I stopped respecting Blizzard since the "do you really want chat channels thing" and shown that they have no idea what their customers want.
Everything they've done afterwards has been bad in my book, and my heart has gone completely cold towards them. When Starcraft Remastered turned out being unfinished, and left at that state this entire time, I didn't even care much soon enough, while normally I would have been devastated. What I think of Blizzard these days is "The company that did their best to ruin the game I loved while growing up", I don't even associate them with the company that made SC:BW or Diablo. Honestly, take away WoW from Blizzard, and they're a completely dead company.
The games industry as a whole has gone really downhill these past few years, due to becoming much more mainstream. Thereby it gets more interest from investors, more money starts going around, and it understandably became more about money than it is about games, with bigwigs taking over the reins of the companies from the people who had the passion and love for video games to make the companies and the games in the first place. It brings great sadness that so far CDPR are the only developer worthy respect these days. I just hope they stay worthy. CDPR making a proper RTS some day is a dream.
Morhaime is better off this way, and so will we. The sooner people fully realize that Activision Blizzard is NOT Blizzard anymore, the sooner we can move on.
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On January 11 2019 20:30 abuse wrote: Honestly, I stopped respecting Blizzard since the "do you really want chat channels thing" and shown that they have no idea what their customers want.
i don't think that "do you really want chat channels thing" was that big of a deal.
Frank Pierce said that in 2010. He is not a customer facing employee. he is head tech guy. in any big company you'll have a few employees who are not locked in to everything customers want.
https://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/128014-blizzard-no-plans-for-chatrooms-crossrealm-play
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Czech Republic12115 Posts
On January 11 2019 20:30 abuse wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Honestly, I stopped respecting Blizzard since the "do you really want chat channels thing" and shown that they have no idea what their customers want.
Everything they've done afterwards has been bad in my book, and my heart has gone completely cold towards them. When Starcraft Remastered turned out being unfinished, and left at that state this entire time, I didn't even care much soon enough, while normally I would have been devastated. What I think of Blizzard these days is "The company that did their best to ruin the game I loved while growing up", I don't even associate them with the company that made SC:BW or Diablo. Honestly, take away WoW from Blizzard, and they're a completely dead company. The games industry as a whole has gone really downhill these past few years, due to becoming much more mainstream. Thereby it gets more interest from investors, more money starts going around, and it understandably became more about money than it is about games, with bigwigs taking over the reins of the companies from the people who had the passion and love for video games to make the companies and the games in the first place. It brings great sadness that so far CDPR are the only developer worthy respect these days.I just hope they stay worthy. CDPR making a proper RTS some day is a dream. + Show Spoiler +Morhaime is better off this way, and so will we. The sooner people fully realize that Activision Blizzard is NOT Blizzard anymore, the sooner we can move on. WHAT?! NieR-Automata. Persona 5. XCOM 2. Uncharted 4. Horizon Zero Dawn. God of War. Red Dead Redemption 2. South Park - The Fractured but Whole. Doom. The Legend of Zelda - Breath of the Wild. Divinity - Original Sin II. Pillars of Eternity 2.
Some games in the recent years(2016 - 2019) that come to my mind. Can you identify which of these games were done by CDPR as they're the only developer worthy respect these days? All of these games belong to the top and are not just multi-player title. All of them have a proper SP campaign that will take some time to beat it.
This isn't me shittalking them, they make great games, but FFS - people, realize that they're not alone. Gaming world isn't just EA and ATVI.
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On January 12 2019 00:14 JimmyJRaynor wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2019 20:30 abuse wrote: Honestly, I stopped respecting Blizzard since the "do you really want chat channels thing" and shown that they have no idea what their customers want.
i don't think that "do you really want chat channels thing" was that big of a deal. Frank Pierce said that in 2010. He is not a customer facing employee. he is head tech guy. in any big company you'll have a few employees who are not locked in to everything customers want. https://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/128014-blizzard-no-plans-for-chatrooms-crossrealm-play When somebody "ventures down" from being CEO they have as of now basically left the organization. The main reason he was being held would be as a PR practice or to avoid organization insider facts being uncovered to contenders. So from that you can gather that the organization conceives that no one would mind that he's left the organization by April, or that whatever venture or organization process is as of now should have been held under wraps would be done by at that point.
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Canada8759 Posts
On January 11 2019 20:30 abuse wrote: Honestly, I stopped respecting Blizzard since the "do you really want chat channels thing" and shown that they have no idea what their customers want.
Everything they've done afterwards has been bad in my book, and my heart has gone completely cold towards them. When Starcraft Remastered turned out being unfinished, and left at that state this entire time, I didn't even care much soon enough, while normally I would have been devastated. What I think of Blizzard these days is "The company that did their best to ruin the game I loved while growing up", I don't even associate them with the company that made SC:BW or Diablo. Honestly, take away WoW from Blizzard, and they're a completely dead company.
The games industry as a whole has gone really downhill these past few years, due to becoming much more mainstream. Thereby it gets more interest from investors, more money starts going around, and it understandably became more about money than it is about games, with bigwigs taking over the reins of the companies from the people who had the passion and love for video games to make the companies and the games in the first place. It brings great sadness that so far CDPR are the only developer worthy respect these days. I just hope they stay worthy. CDPR making a proper RTS some day is a dream.
Morhaime is better off this way, and so will we. The sooner people fully realize that Activision Blizzard is NOT Blizzard anymore, the sooner we can move on. I don't get why you would want CDPR to do an RTS they have 0 experience in the genre, I mean I love the Witcher series but making 3 (well 2 and a half W1 wasn't that great let's be honest) great rpg isn't the same a good RTS or platformer or whatever. Maybe Paradox will make a full on RTS one day it could be interesting, HOI4 is already a bit of a Grand Strategy-RTS hybrid with the amount of micro involve.
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On January 11 2019 13:52 Nakajin wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2019 11:16 StasisField wrote:On January 11 2019 06:52 Nakajin wrote:On January 11 2019 06:39 yht9657 wrote:On January 11 2019 05:59 swissman777 wrote: I supposed now CD projekt Red is gonna replace blizzard as the new quality over quantity game company. I'm not sure Blizzard has actually ever taken that position from Valve tho. well maybe less dota2 but CSGO is pretty much a reskin of an (amazing) 15 years old game. This is... not true in the slightest lol CSGO is nothing like 1.6 or Source. Guns, player movement, the way rounds operate, etc are so different for all 3 titles. I can't say I played that much CS in my life but overall it's pretty much the same game sure some things change but it's not like they build an entire new game from the ground up with new idea/concept/story... It's like if you play Fifa 1998, 2008 and 2018, the feel is gonna be different, the mechanics might vary a bit, there is gonna be alternate mode, different game option will be available, match will be longer/shorter but all in all it's still pretty much the same game.
Honestly, no. I have played all 3 extensively over the years and I would never consider them to be basic reskins of each other or something like a new madden or fifa title where hardly anything really changes. I would put the differences between all 3 of them to be more on the scale of how different BW and SC2 are or how different Melee, Brawl, and Smash 4 are. Yeah, they have some similar guns, they have some similar maps, and the basic premise is still the same, but the way the games play out, the way the guns handle, the guns that exist at all, the way players move, slide, jump, bunny hop, the way flashes work, the impact smokes have on the game, everything is very unique to each title. They are nowhere near similar enough to be considered a fifa-like franchise or a reskin. But this is already getting far too off topic.
I would be curious what many of the original Blizzard staff like Chris Metzen have to say about Mike's departure. I doubt we'll ever get an interview like that where we can trust the person talking isn't locked behind a NDA or isn't attmepting to keep a good PR with Acti-Blizz, but idk, I find internal things like this interesting. I'm not trying to imply that leaving wasn't his decision or that there is something "more" going on, I just genuinely care about the details, even if they're boring, as I'm sure many of us do.
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Shame to see more of the OG guys go. Guess these things happen.
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On January 12 2019 10:58 NoS-Craig wrote: Shame to see more of the OG guys go. Guess these things happen. Yeah, its a damn shame. What are those OG's up to nowadays? All of them have massive projects going, or?
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On January 12 2019 14:36 gababa wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2019 10:58 NoS-Craig wrote: Shame to see more of the OG guys go. Guess these things happen. Yeah, its a damn shame. What are those OG's up to nowadays? All of them have massive projects going, or?
Chris Metzen is still voicing characters for Blizzard, but other than that, I'm pretty sure he's retired and spending time with his family. I don't know about the others
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On January 12 2019 14:58 StasisField wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2019 14:36 gababa wrote:On January 12 2019 10:58 NoS-Craig wrote: Shame to see more of the OG guys go. Guess these things happen. Yeah, its a damn shame. What are those OG's up to nowadays? All of them have massive projects going, or? Chris Metzen is still voicing characters for Blizzard, but other than that, I'm pretty sure he's retired and spending time with his family. I don't know about the others He wasnt the only one who left. What are those other developer GODS doing?
On January 11 2019 20:30 abuse wrote: Honestly, I stopped respecting Blizzard since the "do you really want chat channels thing" and shown that they have no idea what their customers want.
Everything they've done afterwards has been bad in my book, and my heart has gone completely cold towards them. When Starcraft Remastered turned out being unfinished, and left at that state this entire time, I didn't even care much soon enough, while normally I would have been devastated. What I think of Blizzard these days is "The company that did their best to ruin the game I loved while growing up", I don't even associate them with the company that made SC:BW or Diablo. Honestly, take away WoW from Blizzard, and they're a completely dead company.
The games industry as a whole has gone really downhill these past few years, due to becoming much more mainstream. Thereby it gets more interest from investors, more money starts going around, and it understandably became more about money than it is about games, with bigwigs taking over the reins of the companies from the people who had the passion and love for video games to make the companies and the games in the first place. It brings great sadness that so far CDPR are the only developer worthy respect these days. I just hope they stay worthy. CDPR making a proper RTS some day is a dream.
Morhaime is better off this way, and so will we. The sooner people fully realize that Activision Blizzard is NOT Blizzard anymore, the sooner we can move on. Yeah, thats why Hearthstone is so unpopular. No wait. Thats why Overwatch is so unpopular. No wait.
What people really want is: 12 Unit selection, NO MBS and shitty pathfinding!
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On January 12 2019 14:59 gababa wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2019 14:58 StasisField wrote:On January 12 2019 14:36 gababa wrote:On January 12 2019 10:58 NoS-Craig wrote: Shame to see more of the OG guys go. Guess these things happen. Yeah, its a damn shame. What are those OG's up to nowadays? All of them have massive projects going, or? Chris Metzen is still voicing characters for Blizzard, but other than that, I'm pretty sure he's retired and spending time with his family. I don't know about the others He wasnt the only one who left. What are those other developer GODS doing?
I know he wasn't the only one who left, but idk what the others are up to. That's why I said I don't know about the others lol
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On January 12 2019 15:34 StasisField wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2019 14:59 gababa wrote:On January 12 2019 14:58 StasisField wrote:On January 12 2019 14:36 gababa wrote:On January 12 2019 10:58 NoS-Craig wrote: Shame to see more of the OG guys go. Guess these things happen. Yeah, its a damn shame. What are those OG's up to nowadays? All of them have massive projects going, or? Chris Metzen is still voicing characters for Blizzard, but other than that, I'm pretty sure he's retired and spending time with his family. I don't know about the others He wasnt the only one who left. What are those other developer GODS doing? I know he wasn't the only one who left, but idk what the others are up to. That's why I said I don't know about the others lol So why do you say that its a shame that they are gone? What if i tell that they did nothing but shit after they left Blizzard?
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Yeah, thats why Hearthstone is so unpopular. No wait. Thats why Overwatch is so unpopular. No wait.
What people really want is: 12 Unit selection, NO MBS and shitty pathfinding!
Pretty much what I think too, I played WC3, Brood War, Diablo 2, and I have also played SC2, HOTS, Hearth, WoW, not OW just because I'm super awful at FPS games but it still looks great and I know it's fantastically popular. Now that I've played them all, I realize, they are all good, they are just different.
I think people romanticize Blizzard in the past and have grown up and become jaded/harder to impress/stuck in their ways or however you want to put it. Modern Blizzard games are pretty damn good and there is also alot of other top quality game developers out there already mentioned by a few people in this thread.
Blizzard games are still great, and if you don't think so, theres a slew of other awesome games to play, stop being such grumpy old dudes.
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On January 11 2019 04:32 Snakestyle11 wrote: Im very sorry if its gonna trigger anyone, but with this, and the others that left in the last few years, but this is the nail in the coffin, blizzard is not anymore. This is activision, or vivenda or whatever its called; but its not blizzard...
It's been that way for many years now.
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On January 14 2019 02:08 StarStruck wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2019 04:32 Snakestyle11 wrote: Im very sorry if its gonna trigger anyone, but with this, and the others that left in the last few years, but this is the nail in the coffin, blizzard is not anymore. This is activision, or vivenda or whatever its called; but its not blizzard... It's been that way for many years now. Why, what changed?
User was banned for this post.
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Breath of the Wild is only notable as the game that made Nintendo glad that the Zelda CDI games exist, because thanks to them, BotW is not the worst Zelda game of all time.
People just want games to be easy with little challenge. They want games to be relaxing - they like the open world designs because they can walk around and relax in nature (virtually of course, not in real life). Why is The Witness so popular, despite being a bad take on the genre that Myst created? Because most of the game you literally walk around in nature and look at it without any mentally taxing tasks.
Gaming, as it used to be, (that is, as a place to challenge your mind and test yourself against your friends) is definitely dead (aside from Brood War which lives on).
I guess it's for the best though, because gaming is a waste of time, and we would be better off starting businesses and developing new technologies.
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Papua New Guinea1053 Posts
I, for one, am excited to see what's in store for Blizzard under the new leadership, it doesn't have to be all doom and gloom.
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On January 14 2019 04:13 HornyHerring wrote: I, for one, am excited to see what's in store for Blizzard under the new leadership, it doesn't have to be all doom and gloom.
Are you aware of whats happening?
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On January 14 2019 04:49 RandomPlayer416 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 14 2019 04:13 HornyHerring wrote: I, for one, am excited to see what's in store for Blizzard under the new leadership, it doesn't have to be all doom and gloom. Are you aware of whats happening? What is happening? No Fanfiction. Post ALL the future projects with evidence
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