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Hi everybody!
That's by first thread in one thousand posts (damn) except a noob strategic one liner that got closed when I arrived on TL (which was called something like "How to play zerg", hahaha). I was lucky enough to have it closed by Manifesto who explained me kindly that I would have got a painful end if Chill had seen the disaster before him.
Anyway.
I just watched this documentary. You need to create an account, which is done instantly and without any cost nor any bullshit. Just enter a nickname and a password You can watch it in French, Spanish and English. Don't waste your time with the gimmick presentation and watch the core movie:
http://prisonvalley.arte.tv/?lang=en
I think it speaks for itself. What you learn at the end is just fucking scary.
I don't want to make a huge controversy, because I don't believe there is a lot to discuss, this documentary is about the prison industry in the USA, the way private prison work and the lobbying this industry does on the Senate and local authorities. It shows the aspect people ignore about ultra repressive policies which make than 7 per thousand of US population is in jail today.
I think it's very professional and impartial. And I think everybody should watch it.
Please don't start flame wars / polemic bullshits before having seen it.
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If you see the prison cells here in Manila, you'd actually tell yourself that US prison cells are heaven..
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On May 07 2010 21:51 Licmyobelisk wrote: If you see the prison cells here in Manila, you'd actually tell yourself that US prison cells are heaven.. I asked to watch the movie before posting.
This movie is not about the condition of living in US prison. So your post is irrelevant.
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I'm watching it right now, any idea on how long the whole thing is?
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On May 07 2010 22:03 Loanshark wrote: I'm watching it right now, any idea on how long the whole thing is? I would say 45 minutes or so. But more you advance and more fascinating it is.
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DO NOT POST IN THIS THREAD WITHOUT WATCHING THIS VIDEO Biff you should put this as line one of your OP that way anyone ignoring this stipulation can be instantly ignored/banned. I don't have time to watch this just now, it's a beautiful day and I'm considering a long cycle somewhere. I might check it out later though, GL to your thread
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On May 07 2010 22:31 Reason wrote:DO NOT POST IN THIS THREAD WITHOUT WATCHING THIS VIDEOBiff you should put this as line one of your OP that way anyone ignoring this stipulation can be instantly ignored/banned. I don't have time to watch this just now, it's a beautiful day and I'm considering a long cycle somewhere. I might check it out later though, GL to your thread Now that I think about it, it's a shitty way to make my thread sucesful.
Problem is, this documentary does not talk about US prisons in themselves but about the US prison industry. And I prefer thinking that 10 people will watch this doc and that my thread will die quickly than a huge controversy based on nothing about pro and cons american prisons who don't even know what it is about.
Anyway, I'll learn to make succesful threads another day. I'll just pray for this one and light some candle for him if it dies in infancy.
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To many people make money off the incarceration of our friends and family. Instead of addressing real problems like education, drug addiction, lack of jobs, we have created a industry on failure. Instead of destroying the black market of drugs by ending prohibition and control we enforce harsher laws to punish street level dealers while cartels make more and more profit.
Industry of Failure.
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On May 07 2010 23:35 Weedman wrote: To many people make money off the incarceration of our friends and family. Instead of addressing real problems like education, drug addiction, lack of jobs, we have created a industry on failure. Instead of destroying the black market of drugs by ending prohibition and control we enforce harsher laws to punish street level dealers while cartels make more and more profit.
Industry of Failure.
It's a bit worse than that. Private prisons are a business, making a loooot of money, and this industry makes an intense lobbying on the Senate (300 millions $ a year) and local authority to ensure that more and more people get sentenced at heavier and heavier jail penalties.
US carceral population is ten times higher in percentage than any European country.
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