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On November 22 2012 02:22 teapoted wrote: People don't hate on Dignitas/exComplexity/exQuantic. they have most definitely hated on Potm Bottom, Col and Quantic. a lot. i remember the "lol Col can't win without tidehunter" Paintitgold doesn't know anything about dota, potm bottom is just a fad team they can't beat any real european teams. ect ect. it's kind of crap. american dota teams have to put up with a lot of crap because they aren't european.
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On November 22 2012 02:24 PrinceXizor wrote:Show nested quote +On November 22 2012 02:22 teapoted wrote:people hate on american dota teams man People don't hate on Dignitas/exComplexity/exQuantic. they have most definitely hated on Potm Bottom, Col and Quantic. a lot. i remember the "lol Col can't win without tidehunter" Paintitgold doesn't know anything about dota, potm bottom is just a fad team they can't beat any real european teams. ect ect. it's kind of crap. american dota teams have to put up with a lot of crap because they aren't european. Compare that to what's been said about mtw/mouz/darer/m5/CLG.
Yeah, they don't get an abnormal amount of hate, you're just suffering from confirmation bias.
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On November 22 2012 02:24 PrinceXizor wrote:Show nested quote +On November 22 2012 02:22 teapoted wrote:people hate on american dota teams man People don't hate on Dignitas/exComplexity/exQuantic. they have most definitely hated on Potm Bottom, Col and Quantic. a lot. i remember the "lol Col can't win without tidehunter" Paintitgold doesn't know anything about dota, potm bottom is just a fad team they can't beat any real european teams. ect ect. it's kind of crap. american dota teams have to put up with a lot of crap because they aren't european. Western teams sans Na'Vi have to put up with a lot of crap because they aren't Chinese.
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On November 22 2012 02:33 rabidch wrote:Show nested quote +On November 22 2012 02:24 PrinceXizor wrote:On November 22 2012 02:22 teapoted wrote:people hate on american dota teams man People don't hate on Dignitas/exComplexity/exQuantic. they have most definitely hated on Potm Bottom, Col and Quantic. a lot. i remember the "lol Col can't win without tidehunter" Paintitgold doesn't know anything about dota, potm bottom is just a fad team they can't beat any real european teams. ect ect. it's kind of crap. american dota teams have to put up with a lot of crap because they aren't european. Western teams sans Na'Vi have to put up with a lot of crap because they aren't Chinese.
Chinese teams have to put up with alot of crap because they are.
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Well spoken sir and good luck. I would keep the community at a distance when it comes to subjects like this. The more you show it bothers you or respond, the more they will troll just to get the next response. Just trust yourself, your team and play as hard as you can.
I'll keep an eye out for your next event and sign in to the client, EG pennant equiped.
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Been following you since MYM. You are boss!
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haters gonna hate, you'd crush 99% of them 1vs1
I thank you, and all pros for entertaining me
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Mid pulling needs to be fixed. I'm not sure if it would be better to somehow add the option to Dire, or just remove it from the Radiant side. I think it could be really interesting in terms of the metagame to see what happens when both mid lanes are able to be pulled... think about it.
On the bottom lane, creep pulling (and jungle) for radiant allows for a defensive tri-lane from radiant vs. an offense tri-lane or suicide solo from dire. Flip this around for top lane. So would what happen in a lane where both teams have even access to pulling/jungle? I think there's a couple possibilities, but a more even tri-lane vs tri-lane situation mid means more roaming to top/bottom, more contesting of runes, and more early jungle ganks. Thoughts?
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On November 22 2012 02:30 teapoted wrote:Show nested quote +On November 22 2012 02:24 PrinceXizor wrote:On November 22 2012 02:22 teapoted wrote:people hate on american dota teams man People don't hate on Dignitas/exComplexity/exQuantic. they have most definitely hated on Potm Bottom, Col and Quantic. a lot. i remember the "lol Col can't win without tidehunter" Paintitgold doesn't know anything about dota, potm bottom is just a fad team they can't beat any real european teams. ect ect. it's kind of crap. american dota teams have to put up with a lot of crap because they aren't european. Compare that to what's been said about mtw/mouz/darer/m5/CLG. Yeah, they don't get an abnormal amount of hate, you're just suffering from confirmation bias. mtw mouz darer m5 clg all suffered from the criticsm when they were bottom 2 in events not top 2. people shat on PB when they won 2 events, on EG when they top 2, on COL when they placed above na'vi in pools at TI2. ect. Thats a huge difference.
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gl at Dreamhack, i think it's ridiculous that players of such caliber and history, that have proven themselves countless times already, get attacked over single games or weekends
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The reality is the most casters, in both SC and DOTA don't really have any high level playing experience.
Granted draksyl is probably a bit more knowledgeable about DOTA than, say moletrap about SC, but it's not much.
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On November 22 2012 03:18 PrinceXizor wrote:Show nested quote +On November 22 2012 02:30 teapoted wrote:On November 22 2012 02:24 PrinceXizor wrote:On November 22 2012 02:22 teapoted wrote:people hate on american dota teams man People don't hate on Dignitas/exComplexity/exQuantic. they have most definitely hated on Potm Bottom, Col and Quantic. a lot. i remember the "lol Col can't win without tidehunter" Paintitgold doesn't know anything about dota, potm bottom is just a fad team they can't beat any real european teams. ect ect. it's kind of crap. american dota teams have to put up with a lot of crap because they aren't european. Compare that to what's been said about mtw/mouz/darer/m5/CLG. Yeah, they don't get an abnormal amount of hate, you're just suffering from confirmation bias. mtw mouz darer m5 clg all suffered from the criticsm when they were bottom 2 in events not top 2. people shat on PB when they won 2 events, on EG when they top 2, on COL when they placed above na'vi in pools at TI2. ect. Thats a huge difference. I'll repeat. "This is confirmation bias." I can look at mTw winning DHS and people still saying they're bad and say 'Americans hate EU teams'.
Most people were saying coL was the Western team with a chance to beat Na'Vi on LAN. They weren't being 'shat on' by the community unless you look at minority comments, which are negative about every team all the time.
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On November 22 2012 03:28 architecture wrote: The reality is the most casters, in both SC and DOTA don't really have any high level playing experience.
Granted draksyl is probably a bit more knowledgeable about DOTA than, say moletrap about SC, but it's not much.
Draskyl was a professional player for a while and just elected to take the casting route, so to compare his knowledge of Dota to Moletraps knowledge of sc2 is ridiculous.. There is absolutely no comparison. Back in the HoN glory days he was really well known on the pro scene. He has exceptional game knowledge. Ayesee, on the other hand has pretty mediocre game knowledge.. He has a really good tone and voice for casting.. But his game knowledge and general awareness are really mediocre. LD is better, but not by a lot.
My top 3 commentators right now I'd say are Tobi, Luminous (I'd like to see more out of him.. I dunno why he isn't casting leagues), and Draskyl. GoDz is also pretty decent, has some good analysis. I think GoDz + Draskyl would be a really, really good casting duo.
The others are mediocre.
As for this blog.. As the person said below me.. I'm not a fan of how it was worded either. The tone of it appears generally moody/snarky, and overly defensive.
Don't listen to the haters.. Just watch your replays, analyze, and work on your mistakes.
On a side note... I'm really not a fan of Fear on the captain role.... I think his picks are really mediocre, and he gives strong teams (cough* empire) their signature heroes far too often. (just general draft mistakes). I think he's been a significant problem on EG now. Don't get me wrong, his carry playing skills are top-tier, but I really dislike his strategic play with drafting.
I think for EG to be a serious top-tier contender.. They're going to need a new person on the captain role at the minimum.
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I don't like the way you worded this blog, but I still like you and I love EG and I think ALL of you are amazing players and you guys just had a bad day. Kick ass at dreamhack!
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That's the way the DotA community is, sadly. Can't even read the chat during games, it's that horrible. Anyway, since I dislike EG, I hope you guys get crushed at Dreamhack
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see as soon as you say the words confirmation bias you automatically "win" any internet argument. since you get to use any evidence against your point and then say any one thing and immediately render all the overpowering evidence moot. so congrats on saying confirmation bias. despite being wrong.
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On November 22 2012 04:30 PrinceXizor wrote: see as soon as you say the words confirmation bias you automatically "win" any internet argument. since you get to use any evidence against your point and then say any one thing and immediately render all the overpowering evidence moot. so congrats on saying confirmation bias. despite being wrong. Very insightful.
'overpowering evidence' being you saying that people are mean to US teams. You can carry on adhering to this persecution complex all you want. I'm telling you that US teams (not named EG) don't get any more shit than EU teams do, believe it or not.
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Too many people trying to flex their Psych 101 skills in this thread.
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Oh, stop whining, Maelk. You honestly should know better than that. You played alright considering the circumstances, you know that, the team knows that, don't go public about people on the internet hating. That's just dumb. Won't change anything and it won't help now or in the future.
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Good luck at Dreamhack.
I tried to explain to some others for you, before this post. Also, I thought the "Maelk award" thing was endearing. You were 0-20, but you won. It's not like Veno does much late game besides ult and gale. The only thing else he can do is some ward blocking. If team is going to waste focus on a support, then let them. I won a game earlier because I was doom and they kept wasting Hex and Devour on me while we had a super fat carry that was ignored.
The only time I thought you really messed up when you shouldn't have was that you missed what seemed like more than half your claps on Brew.
It's sad how many "commentators" can't look at the minimap while watching the game and see pulls happening when they have both teams vision.
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