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Just thought I should share this. We have international students mixed with Finnish people in one class and we had to discuss some questions together. I realized there was a Korean guy and girl sitting next to me and my pal and we teamed up.
So there I was, staring a guy who looked a bit like Parting and we completed the discussion early, leaving some awkward silence because we had to wait for the other groups to finish as well. To fill the void I started chatting about their foreign exchange and after a brief exchange I just blurted the following line to the guy:
"I just _have_ to ask, do you follow any starcraft?"
I don't even remember what he said, something like "yeah I know what it is" and a smile.
Then I gushed a bit by telling him flash just won his first tourney in sc2, did he know about it. And he was just totally indifferent about the fact.
I felt bummed.
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So... you met a Korean and immediately asked if they know Starcraft? That's pretty racist.
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I know a Korean in my course as well. I brought up the topic of SC2 almost immediately. He knew about Flash, Jaedong, Boxer and other old school BW players. So that was nice.
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On September 03 2014 01:36 Serejai wrote: So... you met a Korean and immediately asked if they know Starcraft? That's pretty racist.
Really? Racist? Calm down, dude. When people meet me abroad, the first things they talk about after they find out that I am Czech, is beer and soccer. It's stereotyping, but it's a nice icebreaker and for many Czech people both topics are spot on (not for me, but that's irrelevant). The only difference is that Koreans also look different than us, but it's not really like you could tell someone is Korean just by looking, there are many countries around where average people look similiar. So he probably had to ask/be told where the guy is from anyway. So where does the race exactly come in the equation?
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I met a black guy today and i was like YO DAWG RAP IS DOPE.
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Wherever I go people ask me about Messi and I don't feel that's racist at all...
+ Show Spoiler +Not that I travel that much tho
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On September 03 2014 02:44 Capped wrote: I met a black guy today and i was like YO DAWG RAP IS DOPE. Well depending on what part of the UK you are in, I could see that being a legitimate exclamation. I thought it was a bit off until I saw OP is from Finland, in which case I can imagine that Korean exchanges may not be the most common thing in the world.
That being said, I caught up with some Koreans who studied abroad with me in China years after the fact. I wasn't into SC at the time I was abroad, really got a bit more of a glimpse into how it is more akin to WWF type wrestling than say Football/Soccer, at least for these two guys. They knew it, they knew a couple players, would watch it if it were on kind of a situation.
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On September 03 2014 02:45 Silvana wrote:Wherever I go people ask me about Messi and I don't feel that's racist at all... + Show Spoiler +Not that I travel that much tho
Why would i ask you about Messi, when Maradona and Di Stefano are bigger stars ?
On September 03 2014 02:46 ThomasjServo wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2014 02:44 Capped wrote: I met a black guy today and i was like YO DAWG RAP IS DOPE. Well depending on what part of the UK you are in, I could see that being a legitimate exclamation. I thought it was a bit off until I saw OP is from Finland, in which case I can imagine that Korean exchanges may not be the most common thing in the world. That being said, I caught up with some Koreans who studied abroad with me in China years after the fact. I wasn't into SC at the time I was abroad, really got a bit more of a glimpse into how it is more akin to WWF type wrestling than say Football/Soccer, at least for these two guys. They knew it, they knew a couple players, would watch it if it were on kind of a situation.
Yeah i don't think this is as bad as some of the comments suggest. They were exchange students from Korea and Esports is a pretty big part of their culture? To ask if they know about Sc2 is not racist at all.
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Pretty sure the thing about esports being a 'big part' of Korean culture is vastly overblown on TL :p I mean, it was never as popular as, say, soccer is in the big soccer nations, or basketball / baseball in the US or whatever; if you go around asking every Korean whether they know Starcraft, majority would probably think you're a bit strange... not really racist, but definitely weird.
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Wow I did not expect this to spawn racist comments off the bat. I did ask them first if they were from Korea and we chatted a bit about Korea overall. I definitely didn't just look at their faces and shout "HEY U KNOW SC2?" And to my knowledge, everyone at least knows Starcraft so why not ask him if he watches any games.
Actually there has been a lot of Korean/Chinese foreign students at our school. I don't know why they picked Finland though.
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On September 03 2014 02:48 Pandemona wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2014 02:45 Silvana wrote:Wherever I go people ask me about Messi and I don't feel that's racist at all... + Show Spoiler +Not that I travel that much tho Why would i ask you about Messi, when Maradona and Di Stefano are bigger stars ?
Well I guess some people try to ignore that Maradona exists. I'm surprised you're not one of them
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On September 03 2014 02:46 ThomasjServo wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2014 02:44 Capped wrote: I met a black guy today and i was like YO DAWG RAP IS DOPE. Well depending on what part of the UK you are in, I could see that being a legitimate exclamation. I thought it was a bit off until I saw OP is from Finland, in which case I can imagine that Korean exchanges may not be the most common thing in the world. That being said, I caught up with some Koreans who studied abroad with me in China years after the fact. I wasn't into SC at the time I was abroad, really got a bit more of a glimpse into how it is more akin to WWF type wrestling than say Football/Soccer, at least for these two guys. They knew it, they knew a couple players, would watch it if it were on kind of a situation.
Nobody speaks like that in the UK and i would be slapped for sounding even remotely like it.
I didnt say it was racist btw, stereotyping though, sure.
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On September 03 2014 03:02 Salazarz wrote: Pretty sure the thing about esports being a 'big part' of Korean culture is vastly overblown on TL :p I mean, it was never as popular as, say, soccer is in the big soccer nations, or basketball / baseball in the US or whatever; if you go around asking every Korean whether they know Starcraft, majority would probably think you're a bit strange... not really racist, but definitely weird. Well I had the complete opposite experience and I think it depends on the age. When I did my erasmus exchange I asked all the korean exchange students about starcraft and every single one knew what it was and even the girls knew the famous players ;D I don't think it was weird, it even lead to glorious things like watching proleague streams together and having a LAN in the kitchen. One of the guys even told me that a highschool classmate of him was a practice partner for MBC but never managed to get through courage...
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I don't know what Serejai meant, but I read his comment as a joke, and I found it funny.
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Ahahaha the comments are great. I had a Chinese guy in my class in uni, he often used to bring around his friend after hours and we would all LAN DotA in the classroom. The one day I was skyping with my ex while I was working and I mentioned that I was going to go play DotA with the Chinese guys and he was like 'ask them if they play Starcraft!' At first I didn't want to claiming it was racist to assume they were Starcraft players just because they were Asian, but eventually I gave in and turned around and asked 'Hey Dong, do you or Zhixun play any Starcraft?'
'YEAH! All Asians play Brood War'
LOL
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On September 03 2014 03:19 KingAlphard wrote: I don't know what Serejai meant, but I read his comment as a joke, and I found it funny. It is a mistake to take anything Serejai says seriously
On September 03 2014 02:48 Pandemona wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2014 02:45 Silvana wrote:Wherever I go people ask me about Messi and I don't feel that's racist at all... + Show Spoiler +Not that I travel that much tho Why would i ask you about Messi, when Maradona and Di Stefano are bigger stars ? Show nested quote +On September 03 2014 02:46 ThomasjServo wrote:On September 03 2014 02:44 Capped wrote: I met a black guy today and i was like YO DAWG RAP IS DOPE. Well depending on what part of the UK you are in, I could see that being a legitimate exclamation. I thought it was a bit off until I saw OP is from Finland, in which case I can imagine that Korean exchanges may not be the most common thing in the world. That being said, I caught up with some Koreans who studied abroad with me in China years after the fact. I wasn't into SC at the time I was abroad, really got a bit more of a glimpse into how it is more akin to WWF type wrestling than say Football/Soccer, at least for these two guys. They knew it, they knew a couple players, would watch it if it were on kind of a situation. Yeah i don't think this is as bad as some of the comments suggest. They were exchange students from Korea and Esports is a pretty big part of their culture? To ask if they know about Sc2 is not racist at all. Woah woah woah. Silvana is right. We don't talk about Maradona Messi is pretty much the modern day Bonjwa of footie, I'm sure you can agree with that at least.
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None of my math students play StarCraft either But they're not all Korean... they're all nerds though.
On September 03 2014 02:44 Capped wrote: I met a black guy today and i was like YO DAWG RAP IS DOPE.
I met a white guy and I was like "Apologize for playing that race."
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On September 03 2014 02:48 Pandemona wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2014 02:45 Silvana wrote:Wherever I go people ask me about Messi and I don't feel that's racist at all... + Show Spoiler +Not that I travel that much tho Why would i ask you about Messi, when Maradona and Di Stefano are bigger stars ?
I'm sure he is Grampa.
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On September 03 2014 03:02 Salazarz wrote: Pretty sure the thing about esports being a 'big part' of Korean culture is vastly overblown on TL :p I mean, it was never as popular as, say, soccer is in the big soccer nations, or basketball / baseball in the US or whatever; if you go around asking every Korean whether they know Starcraft, majority would probably think you're a bit strange... not really racist, but definitely weird.
I heard soccer came out 16 years ago and has to put up with that annoying "video games are a waste of time" stereotype from the older generations.
But in all seriousness, I'm pretty sure Korean pro-gamers are treated like celebrities/ actors in Korea.
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