JOS HAS THE ABILITY TO SERVICE THEE ALCHEMY JOS HAS THE ABILITY TO PROVIDE US WITH PRO SC JOS HAS A MAGIC BELT THAT HELPS HIM PLAY PRO SC!! JOS!!!!! JOS!!!!!!! JOSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!
Maybe Im wrong but I think this is going to be the hardest courage for ret so far because it feels kinda like a lose / lose situation
reason being: Even if he wins it actually doesnt really help him that much now that he's on his way home
But then again this could make it all easier for him: Actually there shouldnt be much pressure for ret now because losing is actually no big deal ( imo )
I've been rooting for you the whole time. I've kind of lost faith, if you win this one it will be restored. I will then cheer for you in TSL. Otherwise I'm probably going to cheer for my ex-team mate Castro!
You only get one shot, do not miss your chance to blow This opportunity comes once in a lifetime yo
No more games, I'ma change what you call rage Tear this motherfucking roof off like 2 dogs caged I was playing in the beginning, the mood all changed I been chewed up and spit out and booed off stage But I kept rhyming and stepwritin the next cypher Best believe somebody's paying the pied piper All the pain inside amplified by the fact That I can't get by with my 9 to 5
And it's no movie, there's no Mekhi Phifer, this is my life And these times are so hard and it's getting even harder Trying to feed and water my seed, plus Teeter totter caught up between being a fathertrainee and a foreigner prima donna Baby mamaestro Korean drama's screaming on and Too much for me to wanna Stay in one spot, another day of monotony Has gotten me to the point, I'm like a snail I've got to formulate a plot fore I end up in jail or shot Success is my only motherfucking option, failure's not MomFans, I love you, but this trailer's got to go I cannot grow old in SalemArtosis's lot So here I go is my shot. Feet fail me not cause maybe the only opportunity that I got
I'm not too heavy into the Starcraft scene, and just visit this site for casual entertainment, but every interview etc. that I've seen of ret makes me want the best for him. Good luck.
Absolutely best of luck for your third attempt, I think you can only win this time since all the pressure is gone and you will return home anyways. GL, HF and some nice GG's...
Courage is on top floor of Yongsan station right? I've been up there... maybe I should go up there with a Ret fighting sign. Like a crazed stalker fan haha
On January 20 2010 18:27 Bagin wrote: dunno , but if he leaves anyway , why take a spot from someone who stays there and really wants to be a progamer ???? well life is unfair
Winning courage doesn't really mean you made it as a progamer. Especially for a korean winning courage is only a small first step, they still need to be picked up by a team. So you might argue that if a korean isn't good enough to take down courage with ret in it he probably wouldn't get picked up by a team anyways.
Good Luck Ret. i have faith in you! Keep trying to improve and you will win courage! remember all the other players have had much more time to practice than you! Do your best :D
On January 20 2010 20:54 SkelA wrote: What happens if he win courage he is still gonna go back home?
He's going back either way, as he can't afford Korea anymore.
unless another team picks him?
nope, unfortunately he will be going back no matter what. and he said in his interview that if another team wants him, then they better be prepared to fly him back to korea
You should check out July Zerg's Team. From what I understand, they are not as strict as the other Korean teams. Thats just from what July said when he went over to STX at least.
On January 20 2010 22:41 Obelisk7 wrote: Own it up Ret.
You should check out July Zerg's Team. From what I understand, they are not as strict as the other Korean teams. Thats just from what July said when he went over to STX at least.
maybe this only applies to july himself who in parts is there as a mascot and for the publicity and not solely for his performance as a gamer.
On January 20 2010 22:41 Obelisk7 wrote: Own it up Ret.
You should check out July Zerg's Team. From what I understand, they are not as strict as the other Korean teams. Thats just from what July said when he went over to STX at least.
all the privileges of leniency are earned on the korean teams. you must put in your dues of massive grinding away and show that you can produce results.
plus, if i had a choice, i think i would join samsung khan. she would seem like the nicest coach, plus, she isnt bad looking, totally bangable hahahaa
On January 20 2010 22:41 Obelisk7 wrote: Own it up Ret.
You should check out July Zerg's Team. From what I understand, they are not as strict as the other Korean teams. Thats just from what July said when he went over to STX at least.
all the privileges of leniency are earned on the korean teams. you must put in your dues of massive grinding away and show that you can produce results.
plus, if i had a choice, i think i would join samsung khan. she would seem like the nicest coach, plus, she isnt bad looking, totally bangable hahahaa
I heard w.star's house is on the mountain, so cool ^^, I would probably pick that one .
On January 21 2010 01:58 ZeroCartin wrote: So what happens if Ret gets far up into the courage tournament? Or better yet, wins it? Is there any possibility to enter another team/stay in Korea?
If ret comes back to korea one point he can participate draft tournament and qualify to draft (if let say plays 7-0 or something might be drafted)
Afaik. Ret said that if he indeed does win the tournament he will only stay in korea if a team is very interested in him and its clear that he is not there just for the "foreign factor".
Shouldn't Ret wait and see if he can win big in the TSL? I mean he could live quite a while on that in Korea, especially when staying with Artosis right?
On January 21 2010 04:11 Varbind wrote: Shouldn't Ret wait and see if he can win big in the TSL? I mean he could live quite a while on that in Korea, especially when staying with Artosis right?
Shouldn't you assume that a smart guy like ret will have thought of this and taken it into consideration when making his decisions?
On January 21 2010 04:11 Varbind wrote: Shouldn't Ret wait and see if he can win big in the TSL? I mean he could live quite a while on that in Korea, especially when staying with Artosis right?
Shouldn't you assume that a smart guy like ret will have thought of this and taken it into consideration when making his decisions?
Good luck ret, kick ass and take names.
I have no idea what his motives are, and neither do you. However, I was mearly musing about one possibility for him, and hoping perhaps someone in the know, ie Artosis or the like might have a comment on it. Thanks for your useless condescending comment though.
On January 21 2010 01:17 piratebay wrote: plus, if i had a choice, i think i would join samsung khan. she would seem like the nicest coach, plus, she isnt bad looking, totally bangable hahahaa
Didn't January get married already? O_o
GL HF Ret! Make this a Courage those koreans will remember! ^^v
Ret should win courage, get a contract with another pro team and train his ass off till TSL finals so we can have a Lee Jae Kroon vs Lee Fields Ho final.
On a serious note: Good luck ret with courage, somehow a win would be a pleasant ending of your journey. Anyway, a lose even in round 1 isn't too bad either. At least you got some experience from your trip (I hope)
On January 22 2010 14:09 motbob wrote: it's hard to get hyped over this
"There have been a lot of rumours and talk going on about your current stay in Korea. Could you go through and tell the readers how your situation is right now?
- I'm going home on the 28th, and playing one last courage tournament on the 24th. Regardless of the result, I will be heading home 4 days later. All in all I've only been in the estro house for about 3 weeks, it's a shame the way things turned out. And being out here certainly hasn't been good on my wallet." agreed but good luck ret!
hoping for some ZvP, as thats the only 1 that ret hasnt played at courage yet, and afaik it's his best mu. Or at least when I watch his stream, he seems to beat alot more high level tosses than terrans.
That bracket posted on the previous page is working for me (loading anyway). And I'm not sure how it's supposed to work, but 01 is listed all the way into the finals. :O
On January 23 2010 11:24 So no fek wrote: That bracket posted on the previous page is working for me (loading anyway). And I'm not sure how it's supposed to work, but 01 is listed all the way into the finals. :O
if you scroll down you see where its been filled in, 5 results so far.
On January 23 2010 11:24 So no fek wrote: That bracket posted on the previous page is working for me (loading anyway). And I'm not sure how it's supposed to work, but 01 is listed all the way into the finals. :O
if you scroll down you see where its been filled in, 5 results so far.
Ah, wasn't sure how it worked. May have been a bit too far ahead of myself, but at least he won his first match.
Let’s cheer on Ret So hardcore That they never forget The Roar Of the one and only Ret Cheer till our throats are sore And we’re covered in sweat As we watch this Zerg own Broodwar Make sure that they hear us All the way over in Korea Without doing a single thing he’ll impress And here’s an idea When he wins, don’t call it an upset
Don't get set into one form, adapt it and build your own, and let it grow, be like water. Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless — like water. Now you put water in a cup, it becomes the cup; You put water into a bottle it becomes the bottle; You put it in a teapot it becomes the teapot. Water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
On January 23 2010 12:19 vRoOk wrote: Remeber Ret,
Don't get set into one form, adapt it and build your own, and let it grow, be like water. Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless — like water. Now you put water in a cup, it becomes the cup; You put water into a bottle it becomes the bottle; You put it in a teapot it becomes the teapot. Water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
Forget about winning and losing; forget about pride and pain. Let your opponent graze your skin and you smash into his flesh; let him smash into your flesh and you fracture his bones; let him fracture your bones and you take his life. Do not be concerned with escaping safely — lay your life before him.
Is ret really going home for good, for sure? If so, that is disheartening; it really would be nice to see some more foreigners in pro-SC.
What are the requirements to play in Courage? I mean, what if like 500 people from TL came to Korea and signed up for it at the same time and boxed out all the good Koreans? Wouldn't a few of us actually have to get through?
This is awesome. Ret (gracefully) lost in the first rounds of his last two Courages, and this time, he's ripping through these guys without even breaking a sweat.
Take them out, win the TSL, buy Artosis a high-quality hooker to thank him for housing you for so long, and join a good pro team.
Following Ret right now is more exciting than thinking about the SC2 Beta! Good luck! If this gets my heart pounding I can't imagine what it's like for him.
On January 23 2010 12:57 Kenpachi wrote: id be scared to be the only foreigner at courage... gl ret. hope a team gives you a billion dollars to join if you make it.
Imagine the pressure of losing to a foreigner, which is met with much disdain by the progamers in Korea. Now you hear that this foreigner has beaten 4 Koreans that are roughly your same skill level. The pressure to beat him is going to be substantial, and will undoubtedly serve him in the upcoming matches.
this is looking promising! i'm playing iccup right now and pretending i'm ret. it's like pretending to play superman as a little kid, but much more nerdy and invigorating.
Finally the match between 43 & 44 from the Ro64 just finished. That was a long time, I wonder how those games played out (unless they just had a delayed start or something).
he's planning to, but hopefully he'll change his mind, i mean, with a tsl even second place, and a progamer licence he has hopefully a job and 5k fingers crossed he'll stay there and live the dream
On January 23 2010 13:28 Hinanawi wrote: Looks like Ret's Ro8 opponent has been decided
oh no! its ½ÅÃæ∙Ä!!
Yeah, what's up with that...I have East Asian language pack installed, yet all it spits out is gibberish characters. Works for Japanese and Chinese sites, don't know why Korean characters won't show up for me on that site.
On January 23 2010 13:28 Hinanawi wrote: Looks like Ret's Ro8 opponent has been decided
oh no! its ½ÅÃæ∙Ä!!
Yeah, what's up with that...I have East Asian language pack installed, yet all it spits out is gibberish characters. Works for Japanese and Chinese sites, don't know why Korean characters won't show up for me on that site.
It happened to me too and I have a korean CPU... I'm guessing its got to do with the browser. With firefox I get gibberish, with IE it says ret's next opponent is 신충렬(Shin Choong-Ryul)
It is because the koreans never set the default character encoding so there is literally no way for your browser to guess what language is being displayed. If you want to see the characters, you could set your default encoding of your browser to korean.
On January 23 2010 13:28 Hinanawi wrote: Looks like Ret's Ro8 opponent has been decided
oh no! its ½ÅÃæ∙Ä!!
Yeah, what's up with that...I have East Asian language pack installed, yet all it spits out is gibberish characters. Works for Japanese and Chinese sites, don't know why Korean characters won't show up for me on that site.
problem is that he is playing saturday courage which everyone knows has much less merit than playing on sunday because huge skill gap beetween those two days
what can we really find out about the zerg with that ID?
i can't find it on iccup, i guess he plays on some korean servers, but can we find out any substantial information about his skill level other than that he got as far as he did.
On January 23 2010 13:41 GosI[Terran] wrote: problem is that he is playing saturday courage which everyone knows has much less merit than playing on sunday because huge skill gap beetween those two days
On January 23 2010 13:41 GosI[Terran] wrote: problem is that he is playing saturday courage which everyone knows has much less merit than playing on sunday because huge skill gap beetween those two days
mocos why u always trying to make that comments? firth with nony second place on courage now this?^^
On January 23 2010 13:41 GosI[Terran] wrote: problem is that he is playing saturday courage which everyone knows has much less merit than playing on sunday because huge skill gap beetween those two days
Why?
because sunday courage its alot harder than saturday which giving sunday gives u more credit to any proteam its like when nony played courage he didnt play in seoul he played in someother city thats why he got to final so ez
On January 23 2010 13:41 GosI[Terran] wrote: problem is that he is playing saturday courage which everyone knows has much less merit than playing on sunday because huge skill gap beetween those two days
Why?
because sunday courage its alot harder than saturday which giving sunday gives u more credit to any proteam its like when nony played courage he didnt play in seoul he played in someother city thats why he got to final so ez
gosi[terran] you are that wrong what's the point arguing with you. i already outed you in the other thread, until you are right on your facts please stop talking.
On January 23 2010 13:41 GosI[Terran] wrote: problem is that he is playing saturday courage which everyone knows has much less merit than playing on sunday because huge skill gap beetween those two days
Why?
because sunday courage its alot harder than saturday which giving sunday gives u more credit to any proteam its like when nony played courage he didnt play in seoul he played in someother city thats why he got to final so ez
Do you get to choose whether or not you play on saturday or sunday or is it randomly selected?
On January 23 2010 13:45 GTR wrote: gosi[terran] you are that wrong what's the point arguing with you. i already outed you in the other thread, until you are right on your facts please stop talking.
hope u joking dont try to fool people everyone who got any know about courage knows that Saturday courage is easier than Sunday Courage
Why?
i dont got idea but that how it works just look at the list of players playing in saturday courage and sunday courage
On January 23 2010 13:45 GTR wrote: gosi[terran] you are that wrong what's the point arguing with you. i already outed you in the other thread, until you are right on your facts please stop talking.
Why?
i dont got idea but that how it works just look at the list of players playing in saturday courage and sunday courage
On January 23 2010 13:45 GTR wrote: gosi[terran] you are that wrong what's the point arguing with you. i already outed you in the other thread, until you are right on your facts please stop talking.
On January 23 2010 13:46 exp wrote: Maybe he'll win by only playing his worst matchup.
If he does win I hope pro teams do notice that he is beating high level semi pros in a matchup he only just started playing less then a year ago. Thats pretty damn impressive.
On January 23 2010 13:45 GTR wrote: gosi[terran] you are that wrong what's the point arguing with you. i already outed you in the other thread, until you are right on your facts please stop talking.
hope u joking dont try to fool people everyone who got any know about courage knows that Saturday courage is easier than Sunday Courage
Why?
i dont got idea but that how it works just look at the list of players playing in saturday courage and sunday courage
Ret beat a finalist from the last courage he played. That last courage was on a Sunday wasn't it? So someone good enough to make a final on Sunday gets beaten early by Ret on a Saturday. I think you are extrapolating far too much out of a little conjecture.
BTW I'm really starting to look forward to seeing in what condition JF is in now because I think there is someone I'd like him to beat.
Ummm... GosI[terran], why on earth would the sunday courage be harder than the saturday courage? Looking at it from a logical perspective, sunday would be easier since 50%+ Koreans are Christians, therefore many go to church(koreans are usually very diligent churchgoers)...
But ah... I see why sunday may be harder on some occasions. Twice every month in Korea, students have to go to school on saturdays too...which may explain why sunday courage is harder, since the top players will be present, whilst saturday players will usually come from a smaller pool of SC players.
On January 23 2010 13:45 GTR wrote: gosi[terran] you are that wrong what's the point arguing with you. i already outed you in the other thread, until you are right on your facts please stop talking.
hope u joking dont try to fool people everyone who got any know about courage knows that Saturday courage is easier than Sunday Courage
Why?
i dont got idea but that how it works just look at the list of players playing in saturday courage and sunday courage
After such a foolish statement
I think I'll change my tsl prediction to you losing..
On January 23 2010 13:45 GTR wrote: gosi[terran] you are that wrong what's the point arguing with you. i already outed you in the other thread, until you are right on your facts please stop talking.
hope u joking dont try to fool people everyone who got any know about courage knows that Saturday courage is easier than Sunday Courage
Why?
i dont got idea but that how it works just look at the list of players playing in saturday courage and sunday courage
last 2 times ret playing courage was in sunday just look at the damn groups lol when someone as mediocre zzang]1st[ gets in 3th / 4th round u know something is wrong with the group
(i dont hate ret i actually like him im just saying what i know maybe he couldnt go sunday cuz he had to pack to go back to his country i dont know?)
On January 23 2010 13:54 GosI[Terran] wrote: last 2 times ret playing courage was in sunday just look at the damn groups lol when someone as mediocre zzang]1st[ gets in 3th / 4th round u know something is wrong with the group
(i dont hate ret i actually like him im just saying what i know maybe he couldnt go sunday cuz he had to pack to go back to his country i dont know?)
so dont flame me cuz im giving my opinion jesus
I won't flame you, but I will point out that defending yourself before anybody actually flames you is generally a sign that you should have thought through your post more.
Theory of why sunday courage is harder than saturday courage on certain weekends (1st and 3rd weekends of the month, since korean students have to go to school on saturday on said weekends):
-Smaller number of people who can participate in saturday courage. Therefore it is likely that the good players, who are probably mostly highschoolers, won't be able to participate. Therefore a higher quality of players will participate on the sunday courage. -Sunday is one of the very few days many koreans don't go to hagwon(kind of like private supplementary classes). Again, larger pool of players on sunday.
On January 23 2010 13:54 GosI[Terran] wrote: last 2 times ret playing courage was in sunday just look at the damn groups lol when someone as mediocre zzang]1st[ gets in 3th / 4th round u know something is wrong with the group
(i dont hate ret i actually like him im just saying what i know maybe he couldnt go sunday cuz he had to pack to go back to his country i dont know?)
so dont flame me cuz im giving my opinion jesus
Didn't that zerg get to the finals of one the prior courages ret played in (which as you said was on sunday) so... where is your point?
On January 23 2010 13:56 win8282 wrote: Theory of why sunday courage is harder than saturday courage on certain weekends (1st and 3rd weekends of the month, since korean students have to go to school on saturday on said weekends):
-Smaller number of people who can participate in saturday courage. Therefore it is likely that the good players, who are probably mostly highschoolers, won't be able to participate. Therefore a higher quality of players will participate on the sunday courage. -Sunday is one of the very few days many koreans don't go to hagwon(kind of like private supplementary classes). Again, larger pool of players on sunday.
I'm sure you know what you are talking about, but I still don't buy this because if Saturday was actually significantly easier, wouldn't some good Koreans just change their plans for one weekend to have a better shot at winning a license? I mean, these guys are practicing SC many, many hours a week and obviously at least somewhat interested in going pro—so I just don't buy that they wouldn't be willing to switch around their schedules at all if it meant a much better chance at winning.
On January 23 2010 13:54 GosI[Terran] wrote: last 2 times ret playing courage was in sunday just look at the damn groups lol when someone as mediocre zzang]1st[ gets in 3th / 4th round u know something is wrong with the group
(i dont hate ret i actually like him im just saying what i know maybe he couldnt go sunday cuz he had to pack to go back to his country i dont know?)
so dont flame me cuz im giving my opinion jesus
Didn't that zerg get to the finals of one the prior courages ret played in (which as you said was on sunday) so... where is your point?
And aren't there also 3 other groups going?
Bottom line is there's probably a decent amount of chance in how many especially strong players you'll have to face (and what maps/race), but you're probably going to play some amazing competition at some point no matter what?
On January 23 2010 13:59 cronican wrote: There's probably some kind of break during the day. I mean, 27 and 28 are still playing their epic 3 hour tvt.
On January 23 2010 13:56 win8282 wrote: Theory of why sunday courage is harder than saturday courage on certain weekends (1st and 3rd weekends of the month, since korean students have to go to school on saturday on said weekends):
-Smaller number of people who can participate in saturday courage. Therefore it is likely that the good players, who are probably mostly highschoolers, won't be able to participate. Therefore a higher quality of players will participate on the sunday courage. -Sunday is one of the very few days many koreans don't go to hagwon(kind of like private supplementary classes). Again, larger pool of players on sunday.
I'm sure you know what you are talking about, but I still don't buy this because if Saturday was actually significantly easier, wouldn't some good Koreans just change their plans for one weekend to have a better shot at winning a license? I mean, these guys are practicing SC many, many hours a week and obviously at least somewhat interested in going pro—so I just don't buy that they wouldn't be willing to switch around their schedules at all if it meant a much better chance at winning.
as far as i know coachs dont give to much credit if u win in saturday unless u actually get recoomended by someone inside team or u provethem wrong (test games)
On January 23 2010 13:59 cronican wrote: There's probably some kind of break during the day. I mean, 27 and 28 are still playing their epic 3 hour tvt.
On January 23 2010 14:00 johnnyspazz wrote: proteams will probably be more likely to invite you to play with them if you win in a tougher courage group
On January 23 2010 13:56 win8282 wrote: Theory of why sunday courage is harder than saturday courage on certain weekends (1st and 3rd weekends of the month, since korean students have to go to school on saturday on said weekends):
-Smaller number of people who can participate in saturday courage. Therefore it is likely that the good players, who are probably mostly highschoolers, won't be able to participate. Therefore a higher quality of players will participate on the sunday courage. -Sunday is one of the very few days many koreans don't go to hagwon(kind of like private supplementary classes). Again, larger pool of players on sunday.
I'm sure you know what you are talking about, but I still don't buy this because if Saturday was actually significantly easier, wouldn't some good Koreans just change their plans for one weekend to have a better shot at winning a license? I mean, these guys are practicing SC many, many hours a week and obviously at least somewhat interested in going pro—so I just don't buy that they wouldn't be willing to switch around their schedules at all if it meant a much better chance at winning.
True, but then, you don't know asian parents... courage player: "Mom, can I skip school today for courage?" mom: *evil laugh* LOL, nice joke. Though if you really mean it, it means you'll get beaten + no food for you today!
And keep in mind most courage-goers are still in school...(i.e. parents control their life... for the most part in korea)
Alright that makes some sense, I'd forgotten that getting a license is not the most prohibitive step on the road to becoming a progamer (getting into a team house is probably harder, based on what I know about the draft/surplus of Courage winners)
Oh well Still a pretty good showing, especially considering the number of zergs faced. I think this should clear up that Ret is certainly skilled enough to be able to pull this off under the right circumstances.
On January 23 2010 13:54 GosI[Terran] wrote: last 2 times ret playing courage was in sunday just look at the damn groups lol when someone as mediocre zzang]1st[ gets in 3th / 4th round u know something is wrong with the group
(i dont hate ret i actually like him im just saying what i know maybe he couldnt go sunday cuz he had to pack to go back to his country i dont know?)
so dont flame me cuz im giving my opinion jesus
I won't flame you, but I will point out that defending yourself before anybody actually flames you is generally a sign that you should have thought through your post more.
two times? you are basing your theory on two times? hahaha
On January 23 2010 13:54 GosI[Terran] wrote: last 2 times ret playing courage was in sunday just look at the damn groups lol when someone as mediocre zzang]1st[ gets in 3th / 4th round u know something is wrong with the group
(i dont hate ret i actually like him im just saying what i know maybe he couldnt go sunday cuz he had to pack to go back to his country i dont know?)
so dont flame me cuz im giving my opinion jesus
saying that i didnt play courage in seoul isn't giving an opinion. it is just wrong. you've posted it twice and it's been responded to twice and you still dont acknowledge it. everyone knows that the only knowledge you have of courage is from what other people have told you and clearly you've been talking to some ignorant people...
On January 23 2010 13:54 GosI[Terran] wrote: last 2 times ret playing courage was in sunday just look at the damn groups lol when someone as mediocre zzang]1st[ gets in 3th / 4th round u know something is wrong with the group
(i dont hate ret i actually like him im just saying what i know maybe he couldnt go sunday cuz he had to pack to go back to his country i dont know?)
so dont flame me cuz im giving my opinion jesus
saying that i didnt play courage in seoul isn't giving an opinion. it is just wrong. you've posted it twice and it's been responded to twice and you still dont acknowledge it. everyone knows that the only knowledge you have of courage is from what other people have told you and clearly you've been talking to some ignorant people...
if im incorrect im sorry didnt read the other tread i apologize if i made a mistake tough u didnt play from seoul
On January 23 2010 13:54 GosI[Terran] wrote: last 2 times ret playing courage was in sunday just look at the damn groups lol when someone as mediocre zzang]1st[ gets in 3th / 4th round u know something is wrong with the group
(i dont hate ret i actually like him im just saying what i know maybe he couldnt go sunday cuz he had to pack to go back to his country i dont know?)
so dont flame me cuz im giving my opinion jesus
I won't flame you, but I will point out that defending yourself before anybody actually flames you is generally a sign that you should have thought through your post more.
two times? you are basing your theory on two times? hahaha
'twas tongue-in-cheek
anyways, all things considered, it was well done ret
On January 23 2010 13:45 GTR wrote: gosi[terran] you are that wrong what's the point arguing with you. i already outed you in the other thread, until you are right on your facts please stop talking.
So is it easier to win on any particular day?
I have noticed that I beat Flash on mondays but cant even beat upmagic on sundays
On January 23 2010 13:41 GosI[Terran] wrote: problem is that he is playing saturday courage which everyone knows has much less merit than playing on sunday because huge skill gap beetween those two days
Why?
because sunday courage its alot harder than saturday which giving sunday gives u more credit to any proteam its like when nony played courage he didnt play in seoul he played in someother city thats why he got to final so ez
nony played the courage in seoul like everyone else you dumb ass. i was with him
On January 23 2010 13:41 GosI[Terran] wrote: problem is that he is playing saturday courage which everyone knows has much less merit than playing on sunday because huge skill gap beetween those two days
Why?
because sunday courage its alot harder than saturday which giving sunday gives u more credit to any proteam its like when nony played courage he didnt play in seoul he played in someother city thats why he got to final so ez
nony played the courage in seoul like everyone else you dumb ass. i was with him
On January 23 2010 13:41 GosI[Terran] wrote: problem is that he is playing saturday courage which everyone knows has much less merit than playing on sunday because huge skill gap beetween those two days
Why?
because sunday courage its alot harder than saturday which giving sunday gives u more credit to any proteam its like when nony played courage he didnt play in seoul he played in someother city thats why he got to final so ez
nony played the courage in seoul like everyone else you dumb ass. i was with him
Jesus christ GosI[Terran]. This is what, the 4th time you make some random wise ass post about courage that ends up being completely wrong?
On January 23 2010 13:46 exp wrote: Maybe he'll win by only playing his worst matchup.
If he does win I hope pro teams do notice that he is beating high level semi pros in a matchup he only just started playing less then a year ago. Thats pretty damn impressive.
What high level semi pros? All people playing courage are amateurs, and on occasion trainee's. Nice try ret.
On January 23 2010 13:46 exp wrote: Maybe he'll win by only playing his worst matchup.
If he does win I hope pro teams do notice that he is beating high level semi pros in a matchup he only just started playing less then a year ago. Thats pretty damn impressive.
What high level semi pros? All people playing courage are amateurs, and on occasion trainee's. Nice try ret.
I don't think you know what "semi-professional" means. Players on pro teams, even at B-level, are "pro" players. Many of the participants in Courage are semi-professional players.
On January 23 2010 13:46 exp wrote: Maybe he'll win by only playing his worst matchup.
If he does win I hope pro teams do notice that he is beating high level semi pros in a matchup he only just started playing less then a year ago. Thats pretty damn impressive.
What high level semi pros? All people playing courage are amateurs, and on occasion trainee's. Nice try ret.
I don't think you know what "semi-professional" means. Players on pro teams, even at B-level, are "pro" players. Many of the participants in Courage are semi-professional players.
I guess different people have different views of semi-professionalism
but Courage league is what is supposed to give you the progamer license and thus if the players playing it aren't semi-pros then do those even exist? I guess you could say that courage alone does not make one professional but you need to be part of a team as well.
On January 23 2010 13:46 exp wrote: Maybe he'll win by only playing his worst matchup.
If he does win I hope pro teams do notice that he is beating high level semi pros in a matchup he only just started playing less then a year ago. Thats pretty damn impressive.
What high level semi pros? All people playing courage are amateurs, and on occasion trainee's. Nice try ret.
I don't think you know what "semi-professional" means. Players on pro teams, even at B-level, are "pro" players. Many of the participants in Courage are semi-professional players.
Courage is a tournament that is held only for people who're amateurs or a trainee. If you win courage = you become a semi-pro gamer. If you get drafted by a team = you become pro gamer. People training with the B team doesn't automatically make them semi-pro if they don't have a license, they're trainee's.
I cant believe ret's luck with getting so many zvz's. I just want to see him roflstomp some terran and protoss. His zvz has improved ridiculously tho, i'm just not a big fan of that matchup
On January 23 2010 13:46 exp wrote: Maybe he'll win by only playing his worst matchup.
If he does win I hope pro teams do notice that he is beating high level semi pros in a matchup he only just started playing less then a year ago. Thats pretty damn impressive.
What high level semi pros? All people playing courage are amateurs, and on occasion trainee's. Nice try ret.
I don't think you know what "semi-professional" means. Players on pro teams, even at B-level, are "pro" players. Many of the participants in Courage are semi-professional players.
Courage is a tournament that is held only for people who're amateurs or a trainee. If you win courage = you become a semi-pro gamer. If you get drafted by a team = you become pro gamer. People training with the B team doesn't automatically make them semi-pro if they don't have a license, they're trainee's.
These are the correct definitions.
If you win courage and you're not on a team, you get your license and wait for a draft (happen twice a year). During this waiting period, you're a semi-pro. These semi-pros definitely have some skill for winning courage, but they've probably also played a bunch of tryouts with teams and (obviously) didn't pass any. So it's kinda weird. They got one good result but their play doesn't seem promising to coaches. And they get 0 pay. They're licensed but unemployed.
On January 23 2010 13:46 exp wrote: Maybe he'll win by only playing his worst matchup.
If he does win I hope pro teams do notice that he is beating high level semi pros in a matchup he only just started playing less then a year ago. Thats pretty damn impressive.
What high level semi pros? All people playing courage are amateurs, and on occasion trainee's. Nice try ret.
I don't think you know what "semi-professional" means. Players on pro teams, even at B-level, are "pro" players. Many of the participants in Courage are semi-professional players.
A semi pro in korea means a person who won courage and got the progaming license but isnt drafted in a team yet. It doesnt matter what the actual word means because thats what the term stands for in korea. So in other words theres not a single semi pro in courage because they would have no reason to play in courage.
On January 24 2010 01:54 tree.hugger wrote: Ret clearly has the foreign world's best ZvZ atm, and all learned in Just a few months. He has nothing to fear in the TSL, save IdrA in the finals.
I have to disagree. I doubt he will take Sen out :}.
It seems like winning courage as a zerg player is harder than as a terran or protoss because all rounds are best of 3, and beginning is so much of rock paper scissors. GJ Ret, can't wait for VODS
On January 23 2010 16:57 ret wrote: ended up playing 4 zvzs in a row haha.... kinda ironic
my luck with zvz had to run out at some point..if only i had gotten a toss or a terran i would have raped the living shit out of them
where the fuck was this confidence the first 2 times!?!? it makes u a better player and yea that is kind of ironic 4 ZvZs in a row and u made it to the 4th thats an amazing skill level you have reached
oh btw...if Nony doesnt do it for you....DESTROY IDRA (despite my hope for Nony pulling that off i have a feeling your ZvT will be needed)
3)... you STILL have to prove your worth to even get TV time by getting on the A-team amirite?
I remember as a kid I always wanted to be on the A-team. There is nothing cooler than to fight injustice everywhere in the world and drive around in a cool black truck with my friends. I was sure if I would make it in the A-team I would get on tv. However I never managed to find the A-team.
3)... you STILL have to prove your worth to even get TV time by getting on the A-team amirite?
I remember as a kid I always wanted to be on the A-team. There is nothing cooler than to fight injustice everywhere in the world and drive around in a cool black truck with my friends. I was sure if I would make it in the A-team I would get on tv. However I never managed to find the A-team.
Come to me young man, I have a bag full of gold chains, earings and jewels waiting for you.
3)... you STILL have to prove your worth to even get TV time by getting on the A-team amirite?
I remember as a kid I always wanted to be on the A-team. There is nothing cooler than to fight injustice everywhere in the world and drive around in a cool black truck with my friends. I was sure if I would make it in the A-team I would get on tv. However I never managed to find the A-team.
On January 24 2010 01:54 tree.hugger wrote: Ret clearly has the foreign world's best ZvZ atm, and all learned in Just a few months. He has nothing to fear in the TSL, save IdrA in the finals.
I have to disagree. I doubt he will take Sen out :}.
I think the previous winner of Courage is a better Zerg than Sen :O
Impressive showing, even without winning it all. Advancing in Courage at all is an accomplishment 99% of BW players will never sniff.
Now, back to the tournament with an actual cash prize. Wish I could find out how much this morning's MSL was worth, but I'm betting the path to riches via TSL is a much better bet.
would be nice for him to join a good foriegn team in mean time so he can take whatever he learned and bring it to the community and see how well he preforms agaisnt other top foriegners.
I would gladly trade my mother for Ret. What a guy! I hope that you´ll keep on practicing to get another chance in a proteam, or at least rape it up in SCII.
Did ret ever play a non-zerg player in courage? I know he only faced zergs in the 3rd courage, he lost to some zerg in the first round of the 1st courage, but not sure about the 2nd round other than he lost to another zerg as well.
On January 26 2010 05:03 hixhix wrote: Did ret ever play a non-zerg player in courage? I know he only faced zergs in the 3rd courage, he lost to some zerg in the first round of the 1st courage, but not sure about the 2nd round other than he lost to another zerg as well.
1st courage he lost to SiZ)Kitty or By.Kitty (w/e aka he uses now) who is a Terran player 1-2.
you looked damn impressive in those games, Ret. Even overcoming build order deficits in some of the 2-0 victories, and just barely barely losing that second game in your final set... GL in TSL