[RUMOR] Blizzard secretly invites Kespa for a deal - Page 21
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TelecoM
United States10583 Posts
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JiPrime
Canada688 Posts
On July 08 2011 23:03 Termit wrote: Yes, many players is playing on low or medium settings to get rid of all the fancy and shiny stuff ingame that can be annoying when YOU ARE PLAYING. But the fact is that observers and streamers can show the game in ultra settings and the game looks pretty damn fine when you do that. And in todays market graphics is a huge part to get new players to your game and even sponsors. Can you see ATI or any other company advertise their new monster GFX in Brood War when the game can be played on my homemade computer I made of some bread and my toilet seat? No, of course not. But they can advertise it for Starcraft 2 because the graphics is there. We who already love Starcraft for what it is doesn't care about graphics, but people outside of our world do and thats why no one is going down to the gamestore and is thinking like "Oh man, Im gonna by SCBW because I've heard that is an awesome game that requires alot of skill!". More likely: "Oh im gonna buy SC2 because all my friends is playing it and the graphics are so good!". The same is happening with the best FPS in the world, CS 1.6. The scene is dying, sponsors moving to Starcraft 2 and other better looking games because they can't advertise new stuff in 1.6 because the game is so old and graphics doesn't appeal to anyone except the core players. Took the words right out of my keyboard. | ||
EnSky
Philippines1003 Posts
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Hekisui
195 Posts
On July 08 2011 22:59 Yaotzin wrote: Animation time has nothing to do with SC2's engine. SC2's engine is more than capable of replicating BW in every way (except being 2d). Then why is it inferior? Let me make an additional argument. For a game to be micro friendly it should be easy even for complete beginners to improve upon the default unit behavior. Also, the unit behavior should be completely predictable and not have a mind of it's own. In SC2 very early in the development they got some skilled AI programmer who wrote the code for the unit AI. This person probably never watched a Korean progamer match and has no idea about SC BW, why having micro in an RTS is good and how to get an RTS with a lot of micro. Instead, they made SC2 AI very good and advanced where instead a competitive RTS requires AI that would be bad in another game. So this person did the AI, oblivious to competitive RTS, and we on TL all complained but it was never changed. Now we have all these new people with SC2 and they don't like to see their game bashed. Just accept I was already bashing 'your game' before you ever played it for the first time. And I did it because of objective facts. Many people that bash SC2 here were very happy to hear SC2 was being developed and had high hopes. But we all got very disillusioned about Blizzard's unwillingness to listen and to make an RTS primarily aimed at a competitive audience rather than the casual WoW audience. They were forced to 'bash' SC2 because of Blizzard. We wanted to love SC2 and switch to SC2 and drop SC BW right away. | ||
Yaotzin
South Africa4280 Posts
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ragealot
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Th1rdEye
United States1074 Posts
Although I will agree BW is an amazing game that started a legacy, all things come to an end. BW fans don't want to hear this and deny it but...it's just denial. | ||
masterbreti
Korea (South)2711 Posts
On July 08 2011 23:04 GGzerG wrote: Why can't Broodwar and SC2 live in harmony? Don't end broodwar.... it is way better to watch... I'm starting to liken bw and sc2 to Harry potter and voldermort With Harry potter being bw and voldermort being sc2. One cannot live while the other lives. Soon it will come to an epic showdown involving a castle and hundreds of people getting killed in a big battle of the players. I for one got my mouse ready. | ||
JiPrime
Canada688 Posts
On July 08 2011 23:07 ragealot wrote: I don't know much about BW, any idea how many international tournaments there are for it? There are none, now. WCG abandoned BW in favour of SC2. On July 08 2011 23:09 masterbreti wrote: I'm starting to liken bw and sc2 to Harry potter and voldermort With Harry potter being bw and voldermort being sc2. One cannot live while the other lives. Soon it will come to an epic showdown involving a castle and hundreds of people getting killed in a big battle of the players. I for one got my mouse ready. It's other way around, actually. | ||
Megaliskuu
United States5123 Posts
On July 08 2011 23:07 ragealot wrote: I don't know much about BW, any idea how many international tournaments there are for it? 0/10 troll, I know a thing or two about trolling, and most important thing to a good troll is to stay on topic, while trolling, this has nothing to do with international scene as everyone, including bw diehards know that foreign bw is 99% dead. It was a cute effort though. | ||
Rinnegan5
Netherlands319 Posts
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES49034 Posts
On July 08 2011 23:11 Megaliskuu wrote: 0/10 troll, I know a thing or two about trolling, and most important thing to a good troll is to stay on topic, while trolling, this has nothing to do with international scene as everyone, including bw diehards know that foreign bw is 99% dead. It was a cute effort though. woah woah,dude chill. | ||
JiPrime
Canada688 Posts
On July 08 2011 23:11 Megaliskuu wrote: 0/10 troll, I know a thing or two about trolling, and most important thing to a good troll is to stay on topic, while trolling, this has nothing to do with international scene as everyone, including bw diehards know that foreign bw is 99% dead. It was a cute effort though. That word has been used so much that it lost its original meaning. You know that he might have genuinely not know anything about the BW scene, right? Remember, you were once new as well. | ||
Hekisui
195 Posts
On July 08 2011 23:03 Termit wrote: Can you see ATI or any other company advertise their new monster GFX in Brood War when the game can be played on my homemade computer I made of some bread and my toilet seat? No, of course not. But they can advertise it for Starcraft 2 because the graphics is there. Game developer's relationship with the hardware industry is actually why gameplay is so poor in so many games the last 8 years. This argument you make is very true but also very bad for gamers who care about gameplay and to whom it doesn't matter how a game looks. Games have become too much marketing platforms for hardware developers rather than what they originally were; games. | ||
videogames
United States103 Posts
On July 08 2011 23:07 ragealot wrote: I don't know much about BW, any idea how many international tournaments there are for it? With the WCG dropping it, zero. | ||
btlyger
United States470 Posts
On July 08 2011 14:35 JiPrime wrote: the significance of this event shows that Blizzard is genuinely willing to cooperate with Kespa despite their past conflicts. Not exactly making Kespa to completely switch over to SC2, but more likely asking their input on the HOTS expansion with pro-gaming perspective. I really like this part of the article. This makes more sense then the rest of it, and means great things for this upcoming expansion. It seems Blizzard wants HotS to do to SC2 what BW did to SC in terms of balance and overall gameplay. I hope they can succeed. | ||
Megaliskuu
United States5123 Posts
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Empyrean
16927 Posts
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IntoTheWow
is awesome32244 Posts
On July 08 2011 22:12 JiPrime wrote: And what are you going to do about it? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I'm going to close it and give you 2 days to rest. | ||
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