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WinterWoes
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Australia251 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-19 09:31:59
April 19 2017 09:11 GMT
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Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France8810 Posts
April 19 2017 10:07 GMT
#2
The lineup is a mixed bag, but this should be cool no matter what. SK quite poised to take this though, I don't really see another team getting on their level.

It would be cool to see Liquid perform with Twistzz in their first LAN with him. Also going to be EnVy's LAN debut. Excited for that!
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nukem1
Profile Joined October 2010
253 Posts
April 19 2017 10:56 GMT
#3
SK is the clear favourite but I think (all) most of the games should be interesting to watch. Seems all these teams have been kinda under performing lately and will probably want to show more, especially the NA ones.

Optic and C9 also fighting for bragging rights for best NA team.

Kinda wished Envy would play someone else in the first round (either Godsent or Gambit) because I don't think their confidence is there yet and will be hard to match SK if they don't get a good start.

TL beating NiP would not be an upset, curious to see the maps.
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Muffloe
Profile Joined December 2012
Sweden5665 Posts
April 19 2017 12:30 GMT
#4
Yeah this will be great
Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France8810 Posts
April 19 2017 15:07 GMT
#5

TL Anyone beating NiP would not be an upset, curious to see the maps.


There. :>
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nukem1
Profile Joined October 2010
253 Posts
April 19 2017 17:23 GMT
#6
On April 20 2017 00:07 Ragnarork wrote:
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TL Anyone beating NiP would not be an upset, curious to see the maps.


There. :>


Leave Britney alooone! I mean NiP... I mean what?
They have been on a downward spiral for some months now but I'm feeling a bit of a resurgence.
It's also quite hard to gauge how NA teams do against EU teams. (I do favour TL but am hoping to see some magic :D )
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Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France8810 Posts
April 19 2017 18:40 GMT
#7
There's a resurgence each time they change a player (or get a standin...) Happened with THREAT as well. But I wouldn't bank on a long term form off that.
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chicbot2000
Profile Joined February 2017
United States45 Posts
April 20 2017 01:10 GMT
#8
ah the swag extravaganza. the only thing that matters at this tourney
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nukem1
Profile Joined October 2010
253 Posts
April 20 2017 12:14 GMT
#9
On April 20 2017 03:40 Ragnarork wrote:
There's a resurgence each time they change a player (or get a standin...) Happened with THREAT as well. But I wouldn't bank on a long term form off that.


I know, but it's so frustrating seeing players that have so much experience and knowledge doing so poorly. Seems every other team manages to make small corrections and changes in order to adapt and remain relevant, NiP not so much. It's this stubbornness that I don't understand.

On April 20 2017 10:10 chicbot2000 wrote:
ah the swag extravaganza. the only thing that matters at this tourney


Can you imagine C9 doing really well with swag in the team, like reach the final or even winning? The "free IBP" threads would flow till the end of time.
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IntoTheStorm
Profile Blog Joined October 2016
83 Posts
April 20 2017 12:57 GMT
#10
Gambit and EnvyUs, let's go!
Hider
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Denmark8453 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-20 13:43:05
April 20 2017 13:42 GMT
#11
The winner of the tournament will either be NiP or SK. NiP looks pretty strong going into the tournament with 4 close games against Astralis and SK is a bit so-so.

I think Swag is a huge downgrade from Skadoodle, and Twistzz isn't really a noticeable upgrade over Pimp - though Liquids form is solid. But I don't see them beating NiP or SK until they get rid of JDM. Envyus is probably a more likely outsider than any of the NA teams.
Innovation was a better player in 2013 than Byun in 2016.
Hider
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Denmark8453 Posts
April 20 2017 13:51 GMT
#12
They have been on a downward spiral for some months now but I'm feeling a bit of a resurgence.


It really wasn't working out with Pyth. He wasn't functioning well on the team, regardless of whether he had the AWP or the rifle.

While Draken is still a bit inconsistent, he offers a ton more in terms of getting opening picks, and Get_Right + friberg looks a lot better than they did 2 months ago.

And given that NiP at the bottom of their form still managed to beat C9 2-1, I don't see how on earth they shouldn't be big favourites against any of the NA teams at this tournament. Because C9 w/ Skadoodle is still the best NA team, and NiP is actually having solid results going into this tournament.
Innovation was a better player in 2013 than Byun in 2016.
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile2980 Posts
April 20 2017 16:06 GMT
#13
"we dq godsent, nobody wants to see them play anymore"
Ross was right
nukem1
Profile Joined October 2010
253 Posts
April 20 2017 16:46 GMT
#14
First game, round 2, stream drops...
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Sbrubbles
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil2876 Posts
April 20 2017 19:26 GMT
#15
These stream problems are annoying, hopefully they figured it out. SK rolling Envy on Mirage, nothing to see here
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Stancel
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Singapore6430 Posts
April 20 2017 19:37 GMT
#16
man this atmosphere is such a nice change from the ESL desks and shit

and it's on twitch
Hider
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Denmark8453 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-20 19:44:20
April 20 2017 19:43 GMT
#17
Geez, Liquid is getting so overhyped by some people. Dazed apparently thinks Liquid is one of the faovurites along with NiP and SK. And spunj predicted them to win. Wtf.

I think the issue is that Liquid is so good at branding/marketing it self, so that any type of small improvement/roster change gets massive attention, and results in people hugely overrating the team. That and the fact that it plays against NA opponents online.
Innovation was a better player in 2013 than Byun in 2016.
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile2980 Posts
April 20 2017 19:45 GMT
#18
this is so great so far lmao
Ross was right
Clonester
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany2800 Posts
April 20 2017 19:46 GMT
#19
On April 21 2017 04:43 Hider wrote:
Geez, Liquid is getting so overhyped by some people. Dazed apparently thinks Liquid is one of the faovurites along with NiP and SK. And spunj predicted them to win. Wtf.

I think the issue is that Liquid is so good at branding/marketing it self, so that any type of small improvement/roster change gets massive attention, and results in people hugely overrating the team. That and the fact that it plays against NA opponents online.


They tend to perform pretty good with a moral boost of a new joining player.

As soon as the boost runs out, they are back down.

But one thing is right, Liquid is along NiP, its just that other teams should be rated higher then both of em.
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Hider
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Denmark8453 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-20 20:06:35
April 20 2017 19:58 GMT
#20
On April 21 2017 04:46 Clonester wrote:
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On April 21 2017 04:43 Hider wrote:
Geez, Liquid is getting so overhyped by some people. Dazed apparently thinks Liquid is one of the faovurites along with NiP and SK. And spunj predicted them to win. Wtf.

I think the issue is that Liquid is so good at branding/marketing it self, so that any type of small improvement/roster change gets massive attention, and results in people hugely overrating the team. That and the fact that it plays against NA opponents online.


They tend to perform pretty good with a moral boost of a new joining player.

As soon as the boost runs out, they are back down.

But one thing is right, Liquid is along NiP, its just that other teams should be rated higher then both of em.


Well I think they look better now. Stanislaw > Hiko, and Twistzz looks pretty fine too, though I don't think he will outperform Pimps lan performances.

That said, I still wouldn't put Liquid in the top 20. If you watched JDM play recently, he actually looks like a guy with no confidence at all (plus he isn't good). And I don't think Liquid can beat tier 2 EU teams 4v5.

But one thing is right, Liquid is along NiP,


Tell me which world in which Liquid would go toe-to-toe against Astralis over 4 maps. Offline or online.

Liquid has had consistente "not a top 20 team" performances ever since S1mple left. So even though they have improved recently, they have a ton of cathing up to do.

NiP has been in a huge slump until they signed Draken where they bottomed at around #15 in the world. But even when they bottomed, they still beat C9 2-1.... So that shows some of the discrepancy between NA and EU.

And right now it seems to be around #10th in the world. So NiP is unquestionably the second best team in this tournament.
Innovation was a better player in 2013 than Byun in 2016.
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