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So I played on a friends account for a couple days, died act 1 as a barbarian.
I was running through the area before the skeleton king, slaughtering everything easily. Then I leap-striked into group of them...and behold! Lag struck! I lost my first hardcore character to the server freaking out T_T.
Now that i think about it, every Hardcore character I played in D2 also died to lag... >.> so sad...It's not even like i died to anything epic most of the time, it's just I couldn't control my character while he got bashed on by normal mobs...
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On June 15 2012 05:35 N3rV[Green] wrote: There are stupid glitches in the quest system that allow quest "cascading" where you basically have a few 60 friends clear a boss, and each time they clear a boss you turn in a quest 4 times.
It's mindnumbingly boring from what I've seen of streamers doing it, and I would suggest just playing the game xD
That got addressed with a recent hotfix in any case, so unfortunately for some it can't be done anymore
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On June 15 2012 05:56 Paraietta wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2012 05:35 N3rV[Green] wrote: There are stupid glitches in the quest system that allow quest "cascading" where you basically have a few 60 friends clear a boss, and each time they clear a boss you turn in a quest 4 times.
It's mindnumbingly boring from what I've seen of streamers doing it, and I would suggest just playing the game xD That got addressed with a recent hotfix in any case, so unfortunately for some it can't be done anymore
They didn't fix anything. All that was changed was the amount of experience for the kulle run.
I think the new hip thing to do is belial cascades.
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On June 15 2012 05:45 willoc wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2012 05:29 PandaCore wrote:Tried nightmare Belial with level 44 as DH, died Probably played way to overconfident again 4th HC char biting the dust... so any ideas how to get back fast to 44? Last time it took me about 10 hours to reach 44, but in the forums you always read stuff like "omg noob, you can do 60 in 4 hours, l2p"... and I wonder... how? These are the same people that would cheat/buy items in d1/d2. Jokes on them because they actually haven't played any Diablo but only pretend to by showing off items/levels. Diablo is all about the experience, not the end result.
Please explain to me how someone, who's already leveled to 60 the "Normal" way by playing all the acts and all the difficulties, isn't playing Diablo because they used the cascade for their next 60 instead of doing the EXACT SAME content all over again the "normal" way?
Also while I never played D2, I'm pretty sure that there is nothing I could gain from the experience of leveling up my 4th 60, especially when it comes to HC where you could die at any point. The point of HC is to survive and beat Inferno with that HC character. Well you can't start that challenge until you reach 60.
Don't get me wrong. I didn't use any quest cascading to get my 60 barbarian on SC. I don't plan to use any quest cascading to get my first HC character, a WD, to 60 either. I've been doing the acts and quests like the "normal" way you're supposed to do. But you can bet your ass if I die after hitting 60 and I can find some people to help me quest cascade I'll probably do it. There is nothing enjoyable about leveling to 60 again after having already done it. To me the whole point of the game is what can you do in Inferno and what awesome loot can you farm.
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On June 15 2012 07:07 Xinder wrote: Please explain to me how someone, who's already leveled to 60 the "Normal" way by playing all the acts and all the difficulties, isn't playing Diablo because they used the cascade for their next 60 instead of doing the EXACT SAME content all over again the "normal" way?
Also while I never played D2, I'm pretty sure that there is nothing I could gain from the experience of leveling up my 4th 60, especially when it comes to HC where you could die at any point. The point of HC is to survive and beat Inferno with that HC character. Well you can't start that challenge until you reach 60.
Don't get me wrong. I didn't use any quest cascading to get my 60 barbarian on SC. I don't plan to use any quest cascading to get my first HC character, a WD, to 60 either. I've been doing the acts and quests like the "normal" way you're supposed to do. But you can bet your ass if I die after hitting 60 and I can find some people to help me quest cascade I'll probably do it. There is nothing enjoyable about leveling to 60 again after having already done it. To me the whole point of the game is what can you do in Inferno and what awesome loot can you farm. I see what you are saying. I feel that the goal of Hardcore is to actually survive till end-game. Not being rushed their and beating the final boss. When I used to play D2 I would not transfer items or gold over to my new names because that ruined it for me. It made me feel as if I wasn't playing the game if that makes any sense. Sure there are people who like to get to 60 the fastest and beat inferno to feel good. I however will not feel accomplished until my hardcore character survives through everything all acts, and difficulties to get there.
Which is why it disappointed me to find out that in D3 your stash is shared between your characters including your gold. I understand that people don't want to play through the game multiple times in a sense (getting gold/items) but I do.
Also one last thing it doesn't really matter but the level cap in D2 was 99.
Edit Act3 was the only act I would skip in Diablo2 unless I was playing with my Brother. Only because playing through act3 alone is so mind numbing that it isn't even close to being funny.
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On June 15 2012 08:44 -Dustin- wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2012 07:07 Xinder wrote: Please explain to me how someone, who's already leveled to 60 the "Normal" way by playing all the acts and all the difficulties, isn't playing Diablo because they used the cascade for their next 60 instead of doing the EXACT SAME content all over again the "normal" way?
Also while I never played D2, I'm pretty sure that there is nothing I could gain from the experience of leveling up my 4th 60, especially when it comes to HC where you could die at any point. The point of HC is to survive and beat Inferno with that HC character. Well you can't start that challenge until you reach 60.
Don't get me wrong. I didn't use any quest cascading to get my 60 barbarian on SC. I don't plan to use any quest cascading to get my first HC character, a WD, to 60 either. I've been doing the acts and quests like the "normal" way you're supposed to do. But you can bet your ass if I die after hitting 60 and I can find some people to help me quest cascade I'll probably do it. There is nothing enjoyable about leveling to 60 again after having already done it. To me the whole point of the game is what can you do in Inferno and what awesome loot can you farm. I see what you are saying. I feel that the goal of Hardcore is to actually survive till end-game. Not being rushed their and beating the final boss. When I used to play D2 I would not transfer items or gold over to my new names because that ruined it for me. It made me feel as if I wasn't playing the game if that makes any sense. Sure there are people who like to get to 60 the fastest and beat inferno to feel good. I however will not feel accomplished until my hardcore character survives through everything all acts, and difficulties to get there. Which is why it disappointed me to find out that in D3 your stash is shared between your characters including your gold. I understand that people don't want to play through the game multiple times in a sense (getting gold/items) but I do. Also one last thing it doesn't really matter but the level cap in D2 was 99. EditAct3 was the only act I would skip in Diablo2 unless I was playing with my Brother. Only because playing through act3 alone is so mind numbing that it isn't even close to being funny.
Completely agree. For me the fun part of HC is that I have played through all the quests in all the difficulties and have not died once, I have actually beat the game or come a long way in a "realistic" way. Like the monsters and NPCs also only have 1 life. Much more immersive that way, and you connect with your character in a more meaningful way. I would love a HC mode in all singleplayer games, as they then are much more immersive. Imagine Half Life, Crysis or any other singleplayer game to have HC mode. I would personally love that.
And no, it doesn't work to just do it by yourself and start over if I died, in e.g. HL. I, for one, cannot cheat my own brain that way.
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On June 15 2012 07:07 Xinder wrote: Please explain to me how someone, who's already leveled to 60 the "Normal" way by playing all the acts and all the difficulties, isn't playing Diablo because they used the cascade for their next 60 instead of doing the EXACT SAME content all over again the "normal" way? Because hardcore is about playing the game without dying. Now obviously, the hardest part of that is inferno. But there's still a pretty high chance that you might die on your way to 60. You have a 50/50 chance at most to make it through Normal-Nightmare-Hell if you do it properly. So if you're exploiting the game to skip that much content, you're cheating. (And yes, cascading is exploiting.)
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Died to lag today. Was on siegebreaker, that huge fatass with 2 maces just popped out, party ran very fucking far away like this is SC, logged back in to see my ghost.
So much for having the reputation of WoW, largest MMO with most players. Cant even handle a fucking couple thousand people game.
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My first lvl 60 Monk died to Rakanoth on Hell, since my PC crashed. Also one Monk died because of a disconnect, but he was only level 30. Now I am Inferno Act 2 and hope nothing will crash :D
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On June 15 2012 19:09 blackone wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2012 07:07 Xinder wrote: Please explain to me how someone, who's already leveled to 60 the "Normal" way by playing all the acts and all the difficulties, isn't playing Diablo because they used the cascade for their next 60 instead of doing the EXACT SAME content all over again the "normal" way? Because hardcore is about playing the game without dying. Now obviously, the hardest part of that is inferno. But there's still a pretty high chance that you might die on your way to 60. You have a 50/50 chance at most to make it through Normal-Nightmare-Hell if you do it properly. So if you're exploiting the game to skip that much content, you're cheating. (And yes, cascading is exploiting.) You are greatly underestimating the skill of people who play Hardcore.
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On June 18 2012 07:10 Dfgj wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2012 19:09 blackone wrote:On June 15 2012 07:07 Xinder wrote: Please explain to me how someone, who's already leveled to 60 the "Normal" way by playing all the acts and all the difficulties, isn't playing Diablo because they used the cascade for their next 60 instead of doing the EXACT SAME content all over again the "normal" way? Because hardcore is about playing the game without dying. Now obviously, the hardest part of that is inferno. But there's still a pretty high chance that you might die on your way to 60. You have a 50/50 chance at most to make it through Normal-Nightmare-Hell if you do it properly. So if you're exploiting the game to skip that much content, you're cheating. (And yes, cascading is exploiting.) You are greatly underestimating the skill of people who play Hardcore.
i believe you should put the words "greatly underestimating in bold =P
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Bought some rings on AH for my wd lvl60, was enthousiastic to try them out, pressed resume, pc froze a bit while loading. I was dead in a middle of a pack I usually make sure I start at the begining of a quest but not this time
Just this week, I've seen 6 lvl60 hc die on my screen. I'm getting scared to play now :p
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On June 15 2012 06:35 N3rV[Green] wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2012 05:56 Paraietta wrote:On June 15 2012 05:35 N3rV[Green] wrote: There are stupid glitches in the quest system that allow quest "cascading" where you basically have a few 60 friends clear a boss, and each time they clear a boss you turn in a quest 4 times.
It's mindnumbingly boring from what I've seen of streamers doing it, and I would suggest just playing the game xD That got addressed with a recent hotfix in any case, so unfortunately for some it can't be done anymore They didn't fix anything. All that was changed was the amount of experience for the kulle run. I think the new hip thing to do is belial cascades.
im sorry but who cares?
id rather sit there and power level then redo blizzards silly questline.
id rather let other people powerlevel so they dont have to go through the agony too.
powerleveling is a convenience. it in no way effects your ability to play.
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Well I just lost my HC wizard after hours of work due to my Dell XPS being a pile of shit.
Thanks for crashing!
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Lost my DH yesterday... he was level 59 and I already had 75% of the level
What happened? I got overconfident, especially with the fact that I was gonna hit 60 soon and I could just relax after that. I didn't even use the keyboard anymore, sat back in my chair and then I ran into one of those brutes with their overhead attack, which took a big part of my HP and then some cultist fireball finished me off. I was dead in a mere second. I haven't felt this bad about a video game in a long time.
Well, DH is back at level 25 and this time I'll just have to stay focussed all the time. It's already the 6th time I try to get him to 60 and I can't do anything else anymore until I achieve this.
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On June 09 2012 09:20 dmfg wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2012 18:01 Whalecore wrote: Act 1 hell, level 52 Wizard: Fighting a couple of Wood Wraiths in a choke, I decide to reposition in order to get into range (I played melee) so I activated diamond skin (knew I had to walk over some mushrooms) -- bam, died instantly ^^. Didn't have time to use teleport/potion. Had 22k hp + diamond skin absorbs 14k.
It says "Slain by: Unknown" on my hall of heroes thingy. :[ It was the mushroom damnit!
tl;dr: Wood Wraiths mushrooms deal insane damage in hell.
Bolded the bit that probably killed you. The mushrooms do a lot of damage in hell, but they shouldn't 1 shot you. However, if you were fighting them in a choke they might have spawned a few stacked up.. Yep! They were stacked :>
I am playing as Doctor now and found the exact same spot my Wizard died: + Show Spoiler +
Don't go into this choke guys ::D
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On June 18 2012 07:10 Dfgj wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2012 19:09 blackone wrote:On June 15 2012 07:07 Xinder wrote: Please explain to me how someone, who's already leveled to 60 the "Normal" way by playing all the acts and all the difficulties, isn't playing Diablo because they used the cascade for their next 60 instead of doing the EXACT SAME content all over again the "normal" way? Because hardcore is about playing the game without dying. Now obviously, the hardest part of that is inferno. But there's still a pretty high chance that you might die on your way to 60. You have a 50/50 chance at most to make it through Normal-Nightmare-Hell if you do it properly. So if you're exploiting the game to skip that much content, you're cheating. (And yes, cascading is exploiting.) You are greatly underestimating the skill of people who play Hardcore.
No, I don't. I don't have decent sample sizes of course, but both Kungen and Kripparian died on one of the two toons they tried to properly level to 60 (by properly leveling I mean just playing through the game on all difficulties.) And I play HC myself and have been playing D2 HC for years. Anyone can die to stupid shit. Anyone.
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On June 18 2012 08:49 TyrantPotato wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2012 06:35 N3rV[Green] wrote:On June 15 2012 05:56 Paraietta wrote:On June 15 2012 05:35 N3rV[Green] wrote: There are stupid glitches in the quest system that allow quest "cascading" where you basically have a few 60 friends clear a boss, and each time they clear a boss you turn in a quest 4 times.
It's mindnumbingly boring from what I've seen of streamers doing it, and I would suggest just playing the game xD That got addressed with a recent hotfix in any case, so unfortunately for some it can't be done anymore They didn't fix anything. All that was changed was the amount of experience for the kulle run. I think the new hip thing to do is belial cascades. im sorry but who cares? id rather sit there and power level then redo blizzards silly questline. id rather let other people powerlevel so they dont have to go through the agony too. powerleveling is a convenience. it in no way effects your ability to play. Cascading isn't powerleveling, it's exploiting. Which is okay, but it's ridiculous to call it "hardcore".
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level 51 DH. 20 second lag spike next to that frozen captain guy in adria's hut, die to frozen.
GG blizzard.
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