His plan seemed simply. Leave her with terrible people, save her later. Littlefinger is just a creepy stalker that couldn't pass up the chance to screw Ned over.
But he left her there, so clearly she wouldn't be too happy about the arranged marrage.
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Hider
Denmark9237 Posts
July 25 2017 22:12 GMT
#32401
His plan seemed simply. Leave her with terrible people, save her later. Littlefinger is just a creepy stalker that couldn't pass up the chance to screw Ned over. But he left her there, so clearly she wouldn't be too happy about the arranged marrage. | ||
The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
July 25 2017 22:28 GMT
#32402
On July 26 2017 07:02 Plansix wrote: Show nested quote + On July 26 2017 06:50 The_Red_Viper wrote: Nah that would be weak. Especially because it's not even making any sense. So this stalker gives the girl he is obsessed about to the boltons for no reason? We could simply realize that the writers aren't skilled enough to write a compelling littlefinger arc, that would work. His plan seemed simply. Leave her with terrible people, save her later. Littlefinger is just a creepy stalker that couldn't pass up the chance to screw Ned over. He killed the first Hand of the King and I have no doubt he loved the idea of having Ned take the job. The man has no grand plan. Show nested quote + On July 26 2017 07:02 Hider wrote: On July 26 2017 05:36 The_Red_Viper wrote: You really have to wonder what Littlefinger's gameplan was all along. In the show he seems to be an idiot tbh (after the book material was over). But yeah i agree, i doubt anything interesting will happen there, his days are over Also, not really sure why Jon is so hostile towards Littlefinger. Sure Sansa said never to fully trust him, but he did also save them... That doesn't really make a whole lot of sense given what we know of the characters. Jon knows a snake. Unlike Ned, Jon didn't grow up with Littlefinger and only knows him as a political backstabber and old dude who wants to bone Sansa. Littlefinger got to his position because he is a clever man, simply pretending now that he isn't after all is just bad writing. It's ok to give him a weakness through Sansa, but i still don't see how it adds up tbh. In my eyes littlefinger's actions after he got power in the vale were nonsense for the sake of getting sansa somehow to ramsay. The big picture makes no sense whatsoever. | ||
farvacola
United States18768 Posts
July 25 2017 22:31 GMT
#32403
+ Show Spoiler + The little discussion between Dany and Mel as to the genderless word in the the Azhor Ahai prophecy is actually an allusion to the fact that Theon is the prince who was promised | ||
Plansix
United States60190 Posts
July 25 2017 22:48 GMT
#32404
On July 26 2017 07:28 The_Red_Viper wrote: Show nested quote + On July 26 2017 07:02 Plansix wrote: On July 26 2017 06:50 The_Red_Viper wrote: Nah that would be weak. Especially because it's not even making any sense. So this stalker gives the girl he is obsessed about to the boltons for no reason? We could simply realize that the writers aren't skilled enough to write a compelling littlefinger arc, that would work. His plan seemed simply. Leave her with terrible people, save her later. Littlefinger is just a creepy stalker that couldn't pass up the chance to screw Ned over. He killed the first Hand of the King and I have no doubt he loved the idea of having Ned take the job. The man has no grand plan. On July 26 2017 07:02 Hider wrote: On July 26 2017 05:36 The_Red_Viper wrote: You really have to wonder what Littlefinger's gameplan was all along. In the show he seems to be an idiot tbh (after the book material was over). But yeah i agree, i doubt anything interesting will happen there, his days are over Also, not really sure why Jon is so hostile towards Littlefinger. Sure Sansa said never to fully trust him, but he did also save them... That doesn't really make a whole lot of sense given what we know of the characters. Jon knows a snake. Unlike Ned, Jon didn't grow up with Littlefinger and only knows him as a political backstabber and old dude who wants to bone Sansa. Littlefinger got to his position because he is a clever man, simply pretending now that he isn't after all is just bad writing. It's ok to give him a weakness through Sansa, but i still don't see how it adds up tbh. In my eyes littlefinger's actions after he got power in the vale were nonsense for the sake of getting sansa somehow to ramsay. The big picture makes no sense whatsoever. He is still clever, that doesn't make him rational or mean he has a plan. As far as we know, he just wanted revenge on teh guy who he felt stole his girl and has been improvising ever since Ned lost his head. | ||
KwarK
United States40776 Posts
July 25 2017 23:06 GMT
#32405
On July 26 2017 07:48 Plansix wrote: Show nested quote + On July 26 2017 07:28 The_Red_Viper wrote: On July 26 2017 07:02 Plansix wrote: On July 26 2017 06:50 The_Red_Viper wrote: Nah that would be weak. Especially because it's not even making any sense. So this stalker gives the girl he is obsessed about to the boltons for no reason? We could simply realize that the writers aren't skilled enough to write a compelling littlefinger arc, that would work. His plan seemed simply. Leave her with terrible people, save her later. Littlefinger is just a creepy stalker that couldn't pass up the chance to screw Ned over. He killed the first Hand of the King and I have no doubt he loved the idea of having Ned take the job. The man has no grand plan. On July 26 2017 07:02 Hider wrote: On July 26 2017 05:36 The_Red_Viper wrote: You really have to wonder what Littlefinger's gameplan was all along. In the show he seems to be an idiot tbh (after the book material was over). But yeah i agree, i doubt anything interesting will happen there, his days are over Also, not really sure why Jon is so hostile towards Littlefinger. Sure Sansa said never to fully trust him, but he did also save them... That doesn't really make a whole lot of sense given what we know of the characters. Jon knows a snake. Unlike Ned, Jon didn't grow up with Littlefinger and only knows him as a political backstabber and old dude who wants to bone Sansa. Littlefinger got to his position because he is a clever man, simply pretending now that he isn't after all is just bad writing. It's ok to give him a weakness through Sansa, but i still don't see how it adds up tbh. In my eyes littlefinger's actions after he got power in the vale were nonsense for the sake of getting sansa somehow to ramsay. The big picture makes no sense whatsoever. He is still clever, that doesn't make him rational or mean he has a plan. As far as we know, he just wanted revenge on teh guy who he felt stole his girl and has been improvising ever since Ned lost his head. Brandon stole his girl btw, not Ned. Jon Arryn gave Cat to Ned after Brandon died, it was Brandon who humiliated Littlefinger. | ||
Plansix
United States60190 Posts
July 26 2017 00:13 GMT
#32406
On July 26 2017 08:06 KwarK wrote: Show nested quote + On July 26 2017 07:48 Plansix wrote: On July 26 2017 07:28 The_Red_Viper wrote: On July 26 2017 07:02 Plansix wrote: On July 26 2017 06:50 The_Red_Viper wrote: Nah that would be weak. Especially because it's not even making any sense. So this stalker gives the girl he is obsessed about to the boltons for no reason? We could simply realize that the writers aren't skilled enough to write a compelling littlefinger arc, that would work. His plan seemed simply. Leave her with terrible people, save her later. Littlefinger is just a creepy stalker that couldn't pass up the chance to screw Ned over. He killed the first Hand of the King and I have no doubt he loved the idea of having Ned take the job. The man has no grand plan. On July 26 2017 07:02 Hider wrote: On July 26 2017 05:36 The_Red_Viper wrote: You really have to wonder what Littlefinger's gameplan was all along. In the show he seems to be an idiot tbh (after the book material was over). But yeah i agree, i doubt anything interesting will happen there, his days are over Also, not really sure why Jon is so hostile towards Littlefinger. Sure Sansa said never to fully trust him, but he did also save them... That doesn't really make a whole lot of sense given what we know of the characters. Jon knows a snake. Unlike Ned, Jon didn't grow up with Littlefinger and only knows him as a political backstabber and old dude who wants to bone Sansa. Littlefinger got to his position because he is a clever man, simply pretending now that he isn't after all is just bad writing. It's ok to give him a weakness through Sansa, but i still don't see how it adds up tbh. In my eyes littlefinger's actions after he got power in the vale were nonsense for the sake of getting sansa somehow to ramsay. The big picture makes no sense whatsoever. He is still clever, that doesn't make him rational or mean he has a plan. As far as we know, he just wanted revenge on teh guy who he felt stole his girl and has been improvising ever since Ned lost his head. Brandon stole his girl btw, not Ned. Jon Arryn gave Cat to Ned after Brandon died, it was Brandon who humiliated Littlefinger. It has been a very long time since I dug into these. I seem to remember Ned somehow being involved with all of that, but maybe just as Brandon's brother. | ||
Hier
2390 Posts
July 26 2017 02:52 GMT
#32407
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Sent.
Poland8967 Posts
July 26 2017 03:51 GMT
#32408
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lestye
United States4104 Posts
July 26 2017 05:20 GMT
#32409
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MooMooMugi
United States10531 Posts
July 26 2017 05:25 GMT
#32410
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lestye
United States4104 Posts
July 26 2017 05:34 GMT
#32411
On July 26 2017 14:25 MooMooMugi wrote: Not that important of a character now that Daenerys is in Westeros now, i dont see him doing anything but sacrificing himself saving her against a white walker or something But he is also in Westeros. | ||
Dav1oN
Ukraine3159 Posts
July 26 2017 11:24 GMT
#32412
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
July 26 2017 11:39 GMT
#32413
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Mafe
Germany5917 Posts
July 26 2017 12:14 GMT
#32414
On July 26 2017 14:20 lestye wrote: What's everyones idea on Jorah? He's getting too much screen time. FTFY. I like him, but he really never felt al that relevant to me. For reference, I was very surprised when I did this quiz recently: http://www.jetpunk.com/quizzes/game-of-thrones-characters-by-screen-time | ||
opisska
Poland8852 Posts
July 26 2017 12:29 GMT
#32415
What I like the most is the conversation bombs people drop. I mean, if you just watched the last episode with no prior knowledge, it would be pretty boring, but with all what has happened, almost every dialoge is full of brutal references. Dany vs. Varys was particularly great. I am also really digging Arya - the frey killing thing was a little overblown, but her behavior otherwise is perfect, she is badass but in a relatable way, it's a balance that is incredibly hard to strike. The only thing I don't get is the reasoning behind so little episodes. It's literally the most successful series ever, so it can't be about money ... I'd watch this shit for years. | ||
Dav1oN
Ukraine3159 Posts
July 26 2017 12:35 GMT
#32416
On July 26 2017 21:14 Mafe wrote: Show nested quote + On July 26 2017 14:20 lestye wrote: What's everyones idea on Jorah? He's getting too much screen time. FTFY. I like him, but he really never felt al that relevant to me. For reference, I was very surprised when I did this quiz recently: http://www.jetpunk.com/quizzes/game-of-thrones-characters-by-screen-time interesting, I was able to guess all except bottom five and Brienne | ||
Acrofales
Spain17186 Posts
July 26 2017 13:15 GMT
#32417
On July 26 2017 21:35 cSc.Dav1oN wrote: Show nested quote + On July 26 2017 21:14 Mafe wrote: On July 26 2017 14:20 lestye wrote: What's everyones idea on Jorah? He's getting too much screen time. FTFY. I like him, but he really never felt al that relevant to me. For reference, I was very surprised when I did this quiz recently: http://www.jetpunk.com/quizzes/game-of-thrones-characters-by-screen-time interesting, I was able to guess all except bottom five and Brienne I had a brainfart and forgot Joffrey :D Spent all that time trying to think of Bronn's name And yeah, thought Grey Worm and Missandei had gotten more screentime than Daario. Interesting. Also that Ygritte is in there. And Gilly. Was this from before season 6? | ||
bardtown
England2313 Posts
July 26 2017 13:23 GMT
#32418
On July 26 2017 21:29 opisska wrote: I guess I am not deep enough to be unsatisfied with the season so far, because I think it was fun. I was afraid that we will be getting mostly glorious battles, which isn't happening except for the boat nonsense, so it's been good so far. What I like the most is the conversation bombs people drop. I mean, if you just watched the last episode with no prior knowledge, it would be pretty boring, but with all what has happened, almost every dialoge is full of brutal references. Dany vs. Varys was particularly great. I am also really digging Arya - the frey killing thing was a little overblown, but her behavior otherwise is perfect, she is badass but in a relatable way, it's a balance that is incredibly hard to strike. The only thing I don't get is the reasoning behind so little episodes. It's literally the most successful series ever, so it can't be about money ... I'd watch this shit for years. I guess it was about budgeting and the glorious battles which cost millions upon millions will be coming. | ||
Grovbolle
Denmark3803 Posts
July 26 2017 13:42 GMT
#32419
On July 26 2017 06:20 Odoakar wrote: Show nested quote + On July 25 2017 14:35 Emnjay808 wrote: Has it been concretely said that Greyworm does, in fact, have a penis and that only his balls were removed in the Unsullied castration process? Also ya Missandei has a nice bod. Show nested quote + "In Yunkai and Meereen, eunuchs are often made by removing a boy's testicles, but leaving the penis. Such a creature is infertile, yet often still capable of erection. Only trouble can come of this. We remove the penis as well, leaving nothing. The Unsullied are the purest creatures on the earth." He gave Dany and Arstan another of his broad white smiles. So yeah, the whole greyworm melissandre shtick means the poor guy's going to eat her all night long and that's about it. Yeah but that is book canon, we are not sure when it comes to the show | ||
opisska
Poland8852 Posts
July 26 2017 13:49 GMT
#32420
On July 26 2017 22:23 bardtown wrote: Show nested quote + On July 26 2017 21:29 opisska wrote: I guess I am not deep enough to be unsatisfied with the season so far, because I think it was fun. I was afraid that we will be getting mostly glorious battles, which isn't happening except for the boat nonsense, so it's been good so far. What I like the most is the conversation bombs people drop. I mean, if you just watched the last episode with no prior knowledge, it would be pretty boring, but with all what has happened, almost every dialoge is full of brutal references. Dany vs. Varys was particularly great. I am also really digging Arya - the frey killing thing was a little overblown, but her behavior otherwise is perfect, she is badass but in a relatable way, it's a balance that is incredibly hard to strike. The only thing I don't get is the reasoning behind so little episodes. It's literally the most successful series ever, so it can't be about money ... I'd watch this shit for years. I guess it was about budgeting and the glorious battles which cost millions upon millions will be coming. That's what I refuse to buy. HBO is a huge corporation, whatever the battles may cost is probably still peanuts for them. Also, why they don't add non-battle stuff? There is obviously a lot of shortcutting in plain dialogue ... We're not talking about "oh gosh, why was Firefly cancelled", but literally the biggest cable TV hit in the history here. | ||
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