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On October 27 2016 01:11 Lil_nooblet wrote:Show nested quote +On October 27 2016 01:07 Fango wrote:On October 27 2016 00:10 Lil_nooblet wrote:So Zest is practicing on the NA ladder and he is 25-0. Surely if he can conquer the NA ladder he can conquer Blizzcon Does anyone have his NA profile? http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/5094308/1/Zest/matchesNeuro played him on stream earlier and it was pretty one sided lol
Not bad, but even in bad form I think he still should win every game in master league. I mean he's still top 20 right?
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NA is a pretty awful ladder region though generally. Like, unless he plays the other Blizzcon participants that doesn't say much. Most serious NA players either play predominantly on KR or EU.
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On October 27 2016 01:48 Elentos wrote: NA is a pretty awful ladder region though generally. Like, unless he plays the other Blizzcon participants that doesn't say much. Most serious NA players either play predominantly on KR or EU.
I would assume hes playing stats and Ty a lot as practice?
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On October 27 2016 03:30 Fango wrote:Show nested quote +On October 27 2016 01:48 Elentos wrote: NA is a pretty awful ladder region though generally. Like, unless he plays the other Blizzcon participants that doesn't say much. Most serious NA players either play predominantly on KR or EU. I would assume hes playing stats and Ty a lot as practice? Well, probably not on ladder.
Besides there's not much reason for TY and Zest to practice against each other, they don't even have each other's race in their group. Though I could see TY practice with Dear for ByuN, TY and Dear are really good friends too.
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On October 27 2016 04:28 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On October 27 2016 03:30 Fango wrote:On October 27 2016 01:48 Elentos wrote: NA is a pretty awful ladder region though generally. Like, unless he plays the other Blizzcon participants that doesn't say much. Most serious NA players either play predominantly on KR or EU. I would assume hes playing stats and Ty a lot as practice? Well, probably not on ladder. Besides there's not much reason for TY and Zest to practice against each other, they don't even have each other's race in their group. Though I could see TY practice with Dear for ByuN, TY and Dear are really good friends too.
Still its helps to practice against higher level players. TY or Zest offracing as zerg is probably more challanging than playing master/GM zergs on the NA ladder. Especially because they can help eachother work on weaknesses etc
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Eh maybe, I'm not sure how good their off-races are. Having friends/former teammates at the event that sure helps, but it's not like they're a full coaching staff. At this point they really shouldn't have weaknesses left that are so obvious that some GM in whatever region or their off-racing teammates can figure out. They're trying to win Blizzcon after all.
There's a Terran in NA GM right now with a 98% winrate. Has to be ByuN (because I don't think TY plays that much ladder). But Stats and Zest are like top 3 of the Blizzcon participants you can find by NA ladder winrate. So that's good. Also I think some of them ran into each other because TRUE's winrate is so bad.
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On October 27 2016 05:49 Elentos wrote: Eh maybe, I'm not sure how good their off-races are. Having friends/former teammates at the event that sure helps, but it's not like they're a full coaching staff. At this point they really shouldn't have weaknesses left that are so obvious that some GM in whatever region or their off-racing teammates can figure out. They're trying to win Blizzcon after all.
There's a Terran in NA GM right now with a 98% winrate. Has to be ByuN (because I don't think TY plays that much ladder). But Stats and Zest are like top 3 of the Blizzcon participants you can find by NA ladder winrate. So that's good. Also I think some of them ran into each other because TRUE's winrate is so bad.
I think it helps. Zest probably wants someone to practice defending ling rushing seeing how he's facing True tomorrow
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Oh he gets a decent amount of ling rushes on ladder. I just looked through his match history. His efficiency with his units is pretty insane. He beat all Zergs he played (14 out of 25) in 8 minutes or less and he never lost more than 9 units (1 game with 0 units lost in 7 minutes 20 seconds).
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I looked at true's account and he lost to some random na protoss yesterday with less than 150 apm. Hopefully that bodes well for tomorrow lol.
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Zest's first game on NA this week was against a guy with 60 APM. MMR clearly working as intended.
Also I found every Blizzcon participant except TY on ladder I'm pretty sure. Oh and Patience.
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On October 27 2016 06:44 Elentos wrote: Zest's first game on NA this week was against a guy with 60 APM. MMR clearly working as intended.
Also I found every Blizzcon participant except TY on ladder I'm pretty sure. Oh and Patience.
How you found them? Just based of winrates?
http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/8391397/1/llllllllllll/ I think this is Byun maybe? He hasn't lost a single game other than one he left at 0 seconds
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On October 27 2016 07:33 Fango wrote:Show nested quote +On October 27 2016 06:44 Elentos wrote: Zest's first game on NA this week was against a guy with 60 APM. MMR clearly working as intended.
Also I found every Blizzcon participant except TY on ladder I'm pretty sure. Oh and Patience. How you found them? Just based of winrates? Most of them are actually playing on accounts that use their IDs (e.g. Solar, LiquidSnute, etc.) and others it's more about looking at their match history (builds they do and stuff, for example ByuN repeats the same builds a ton).
And yeah that barcode is 99% ByuN. He does a 2-1-1 in basically every TvZ he plays, his winrate is insane, he played 55 games in 1 day.
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On October 27 2016 07:43 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On October 27 2016 07:33 Fango wrote:On October 27 2016 06:44 Elentos wrote: Zest's first game on NA this week was against a guy with 60 APM. MMR clearly working as intended.
Also I found every Blizzcon participant except TY on ladder I'm pretty sure. Oh and Patience. How you found them? Just based of winrates? Most of them are actually playing on accounts that use their IDs (e.g. Solar, LiquidSnute, etc.) and others it's more about looking at their match history (builds they do and stuff, for example ByuN repeats the same builds a ton). And yeah that barcode is 99% ByuN. He does a 2-1-1 in basically every TvZ he plays, his winrate is insane, he played 55 games in 1 day. How do you obtain the builds that they play? Can you access their replays ?
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On October 27 2016 12:44 EatingBomber wrote:Show nested quote +On October 27 2016 07:43 Elentos wrote:On October 27 2016 07:33 Fango wrote:On October 27 2016 06:44 Elentos wrote: Zest's first game on NA this week was against a guy with 60 APM. MMR clearly working as intended.
Also I found every Blizzcon participant except TY on ladder I'm pretty sure. Oh and Patience. How you found them? Just based of winrates? Most of them are actually playing on accounts that use their IDs (e.g. Solar, LiquidSnute, etc.) and others it's more about looking at their match history (builds they do and stuff, for example ByuN repeats the same builds a ton). And yeah that barcode is 99% ByuN. He does a 2-1-1 in basically every TvZ he plays, his winrate is insane, he played 55 games in 1 day. How do you obtain the builds that they play? Can you access their replays ? If you go to their match history in game you can look at the builds they did.
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And to think zest is a tall guy among koreans ^^
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On October 27 2016 19:49 oGoZenob wrote:And to think zest is a tall guy among koreans ^^ tod and koka, specially tod, are quite tall tbh
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On October 27 2016 19:53 Makro wrote:Show nested quote +On October 27 2016 19:49 oGoZenob wrote:And to think zest is a tall guy among koreans ^^ tod and koka, specially tod, are quite tall tbh Yeah ToD's almost 2m. Most people would look kinda short next to him.
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On October 27 2016 19:58 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On October 27 2016 19:53 Makro wrote:On October 27 2016 19:49 oGoZenob wrote:And to think zest is a tall guy among koreans ^^ tod and koka, specially tod, are quite tall tbh Yeah ToD's almost 2m. Most people would look kinda short next to him. he's 1m90, it's not that huge ^^
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On October 28 2016 00:13 oGoZenob wrote:Show nested quote +On October 27 2016 19:58 Elentos wrote:On October 27 2016 19:53 Makro wrote:On October 27 2016 19:49 oGoZenob wrote:And to think zest is a tall guy among koreans ^^ tod and koka, specially tod, are quite tall tbh Yeah ToD's almost 2m. Most people would look kinda short next to him. he's 1m90, it's not that huge ^^ He's still well above the French average.
Although I think Zest isn't actually that tall for a Korean. Oov is tall for a Korean.
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