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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
February 15 2015 21:37 GMT
#17761
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SnK-Arcbound
United States4423 Posts
February 15 2015 22:26 GMT
#17762
On February 16 2015 04:53 HolydaKing wrote: Show nested quote + On February 16 2015 04:48 SnK-Arcbound wrote: I use vaal molten shell against academy boss, he hits you, you hit him, he hits you etc. and he just melts. Also works well against crematorium boss. That's pretty clever, though against Crematorium boss you gotta live long enough for that to work. But that works just fine if you have high lvl AA, else it's rough. LL on vaal molten shell. | ||
bluQ
Germany1724 Posts
February 16 2015 11:00 GMT
#17763
grats dude ... rich bitch | ||
HolydaKing
21225 Posts
February 16 2015 11:52 GMT
#17764
He could just have it from there. | ||
vndestiny
Singapore3437 Posts
February 16 2015 14:20 GMT
#17765
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iloveav
Poland1464 Posts
February 16 2015 15:40 GMT
#17766
Not sure Id spend that much for an item, no matter how powerfull. Physical reflect will destroy you unless you get vaal pact. | ||
ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
February 16 2015 16:12 GMT
#17767
My account is probably worth 3 mirrors total (a lot is in legacy gear), kind of funny how a single item is worth 3x - 5x as much as my account. Who cares if you die to reflect on that, if you can afford that you're probably lvl 100, rich as hell and just farming Atziri. | ||
Blitzkrieg0
United States13132 Posts
February 16 2015 18:01 GMT
#17768
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zergnewb
United States816 Posts
February 16 2015 19:33 GMT
#17769
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
February 16 2015 21:12 GMT
#17770
I'd still be pissed if exalts were eliminated though. I think most people would lol, though relatively little of my wealth is in exalts. Every time I get enough, I just trade for legacy items. It's even slot efficient for my stash tabs! | ||
rza
Canada384 Posts
February 17 2015 01:07 GMT
#17771
On February 17 2015 00:40 iloveav wrote: Not sure Id spend that much for an item, no matter how powerfull. Physical reflect will destroy you unless you get vaal pact. pretty sure he can afford acuity. and this guy doesnt want this item to use it only.. if so he would have pay for a mirrored one. He wants to own the original best phys wand in the game. maybe to start selling mirror service or to stop the mirror service of this wand, who knows. | ||
ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
February 17 2015 02:21 GMT
#17772
EDIT: yeah... looking at the buyer's thread he's stupid rich. He's got more legacy shav's that i have stash tabs. http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/723972/page/1 | ||
Probemicro
3708 Posts
February 17 2015 09:42 GMT
#17773
enduring cry will be labeled as a "warcry" (removing the spell tag), EC will no longer be triggered by codt and not affected by spell echo. It might be great that something is done about the whole mandatory no brainer codt-ec-ic setup, but unless theres other rework made to defense (eg.armour) i dont think its all great. in temp hc league it will just make lightning coil and CoD even more mandatory and sought after with this change. one of the new warcry (abyssal cry) isn't that particularly interesting either, overlaps with temp chains and chaos damage isn't that particularly good when one could have killed all the mobs with your main skill by the time you use that warcry... | ||
bluQ
Germany1724 Posts
February 17 2015 10:45 GMT
#17774
On February 17 2015 18:42 Probemicro wrote: standard circlejerking aside, what do you all think about the new "warcry" skills being introduced and talked about recently enduring cry will be labeled as a "warcry" (removing the spell tag), EC will no longer be triggered by codt and not affected by spell echo. It might be great that something is done about the whole mandatory no brainer codt-ec-ic setup, but unless theres other rework made to defense (eg.armour) i dont think its all great. in temp hc league it will just make lightning coil and CoD even more mandatory and sought after with this change. one of the new warcry (abyssal cry) isn't that particularly interesting either, overlaps with temp chains and chaos damage isn't that particularly good when one could have killed all the mobs with your main skill by the time you use that warcry... Erm what? Just because you cant use it in Cwdt anymore doesn't mean it sucks cO Cloak and Lightning Coil have nothing to do with a Cwdt EC compared to a selfcast... Enduring Cry was always mandatory, doesn't matter if selfcast or not. And btw i was running Enduring cry on 80% of my builds self-cast. why? Because i want to be in charge of whether i want to have 1 charge or 5 charges (lv1-5 enduring cry will never generate enough charges when only couple of mobs left). The only "problem" i'd have with EC not being a spell anymore is spellecho. Some builds rely on a doublecasted EC. So I'd either want to see being able to use 2-3 EC's with seperate Cooldowns(they kinda nerfed it because of discharger using 2-4 ECs - which i always thought was a bad nerf) or some way to be able to proc it twice. Imo CWDT was always and still is broken. A good step in the right direction. | ||
Probemicro
3708 Posts
February 17 2015 11:01 GMT
#17775
On February 17 2015 19:45 bluQ wrote: Show nested quote + On February 17 2015 18:42 Probemicro wrote: standard circlejerking aside, what do you all think about the new "warcry" skills being introduced and talked about recently enduring cry will be labeled as a "warcry" (removing the spell tag), EC will no longer be triggered by codt and not affected by spell echo. It might be great that something is done about the whole mandatory no brainer codt-ec-ic setup, but unless theres other rework made to defense (eg.armour) i dont think its all great. in temp hc league it will just make lightning coil and CoD even more mandatory and sought after with this change. one of the new warcry (abyssal cry) isn't that particularly interesting either, overlaps with temp chains and chaos damage isn't that particularly good when one could have killed all the mobs with your main skill by the time you use that warcry... Erm what? Just because you cant use it in Cwdt anymore doesn't mean it sucks cO Cloak and Lightning Coil have nothing to do with a Cwdt EC compared to a selfcast... Enduring Cry was always mandatory, doesn't matter if selfcast or not. And btw i was running Enduring cry on 80% of my builds self-cast. why? Because i want to be in charge of whether i want to have 1 charge or 5 charges (lv1-5 enduring cry will never generate enough charges when only couple of mobs left). The only "problem" i'd have with EC not being a spell anymore is spellecho. Some builds rely on a doublecasted EC. So I'd either want to see being able to use 2-3 EC's with seperate Cooldowns(they kinda nerfed it because of discharger using 2-4 ECs - which i always thought was a bad nerf) or some way to be able to proc it twice. Imo CWDT was always and still is broken. A good step in the right direction. yeah im sure you have time to manually cast ec AND IC when 10 blue devourers pop up in your face. a lot of people took cwdt-ec-ic for granted, its a real life saver in many situations. i lost count how many people have said that their lives have been saved thanks to cwdt-ec-ic after having been caught offguard from sudden devourer/offscreen attacks and having to self cast it is a huge thing since you cannot always be prepared to do that when mobs can offscreen you from nowhere. why i say LC/CoD is because people will tend to stick to easier more automated forms of mitigation, rather than having to cast ec EVERYTIME just before you enter a room with mobs. which is still not a guarantee defense when 10 hasted blue frogs can just jump at you from offscreen before you can press a button. not that i dislike the change away from cwdt, but mobs are still dangerous the same and not every build can afford so many points into extra ec charges/increased duration/armour. and armour is still craptastic as usual in mitigating | ||
Hikari
1914 Posts
February 17 2015 14:07 GMT
#17776
I dont mind having to selfcast warcries as long as they can be casted on the move and doesnt cause any global cooldowns. Otherwise the warcries better be super strong to justify having to stay in one place and cast. | ||
bluQ
Germany1724 Posts
February 17 2015 14:16 GMT
#17777
People started using self cast Immo-Call more and more the last months. Since they will be shifted to "warcries" and are by that not spells anymore they shouldn't have a variable which is influenced by casttime/attackspeed. Meaning; animation-time. That Cwdt avoids any animation is in itself broken and should never been implemented this way imo(it should have read "xx% less effectivness of skills" instead of "xx% damage of skills"). Edit: and cwdt will be a wasted gem(if cwdt doesn't get changed) when they shift ic and ec to "warcries" which illustrates even more that it is/was broken by design. Edit2: well ... maybe to use another broken gem combination: cwdt + curse on hit + ice nova/firestorm | ||
Probemicro
3708 Posts
February 17 2015 14:27 GMT
#17778
On February 17 2015 23:16 bluQ wrote: Once upon a time in a far far galaxy there was no Cwdt and people still managed to survive. I'm pretty sure they use curses or decoy/skellie totems back then to good effect, unless you are melee most people gave up on self casting ec as it takes time away from other actions. And back then the damage spike was not that insane as now, if I recall GGG did admit that they hike up the dmg of mobs in higher level maps quite recently (a few patches ago) to make up for the powercreep and general increase in players defense (HP change etc). Back then you can get by with 4khp with ir/mom (standards probably even lower in beta?), nowadays even with 5-6k HP and evasion/ondar/dodge/block and cwdt-ec-ic you pray you don't die to some off screen desync bullshitery | ||
Hikari
1914 Posts
February 17 2015 14:52 GMT
#17779
Granted, curse immune rares are quite common, but curses cast quickly, is ranged AoE, has no CD, and are pretty powerful by their own rights. I guess you can do something like use that new snaring shout + temp chains for some insane snare against enemies... Either that or people just find a way to survive and kill stuff before they can land a hit. | ||
HolydaKing
21225 Posts
February 17 2015 14:54 GMT
#17780
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